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Re: Low Power fix on QCX 80 and a sugestion for a possible addition to QCX test gear to measure inductance.


 

Hi Robin,

Sadly I dont think I can help on this one. When I trimmed the number of turns on the inductors (L1, L2, L3 and L4) I decided through lack of time to avoid the cut-n-try approach in favour of the measuring the inductors and adjusting turns until they matched the specified values in the manual. It was more labour intensive but I felt it had a better chance of success given my currently limited spare time.

I performed the measure, adjust and re-measure on each inductor and then re-fitted all the inductors into the board in one operation so I did not notice which (if any) of the inductors made the biggest change to the power output. What I can say is that my inductors started off with the specified number of turns but ended up being way-off due (I suspect) to the well documented and notoriously poor sample-to-sample tollerances of this type of core.

If it helps I can tell you how many turns I had to remove from each core...

L1 manual says 25 turns (had to remove 5 turns)
L2 manual says 27 turns (had to remove 4 turns)
L3 manual syas 25 turns (had to remove 5 turns same as L1)
L4 manual says 24 turns (had to remove 5 turns)

As an aside, I rummaged around the shack and found some old (very old, 20 years +) T37-2 cores and wound the specified number of turns as a check to satisfy curiosity as to the s-p-r-e-a-d in core characteristics with cores from different suppliers and of different ages. The result was that in almost all cases the final number of turns required for a given inductance is subject to "tweaking" due to tollerances in the core. Conclusion: they have not got any better over the years Hi.

Hope you enjoy the QCX and look forward to hearing you on-air.

73,s

Des (M0AYF)


On Wed, Dec 6, 2017 at 08:52 am, <robin.travis@...> wrote:
Des and Alan
I have just subscribed to the group and I wonder?if?either of you can help an old timer who has?only returned to amateur radio in the last couple of years after 30 years of no activity.
In fact, the last transceiver I built was a Heathkit HW8 which still works?- ?Hi Hi.

I have just completed building the QCX 80 and it worked first time thanks to the excellent Assembly Guide Manual.
In my opinion, I also have a slightly lower power output?than expected.
Using the online power meter, I ?have 5.2 watts on the drains of Q1, Q2 and Q3 (with both 9.5 and 11.3 V power source) and the following measurement across L1:
L1/L2 Junction = 3.3 watts (11.3V)? and?2.3 watts (9.5V)
L1/power output BNC socket = 2.0 watts (11.3V) and 1.5 watts (9.5V)

I understand these power measurements are not necessarily accurate values but serve for the purpose of comparison.

I note the possible removal of turns from the inductances L1, L2, L3 and L4 but before embarking on this I would be interested to know which inductance did you find was the most critical and turns removed.
I am fully aware that inductance values?can vary according to core material, tightness of turns, closeness of turns etc but would greatly appreciate your input as a quick fix until I can set myself up with the inductance measuring circuit.
Kind regards and 73s

Robin
G4DNP

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