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Re: WSPR on 28MHz


Hans Summers
 


Hi Eddie

Many thanks for all your efforts in helping to collect evidence to track down this problem. I know it might be a little frustrating but thanks for persisting!

I suspect that there might be some arithmetic issue in my code which reduces the accuracy of the calculation when the frequency is high. More specifically, when the shift frequency becomes smaller relative to the baseline output frequency.

If you have time, I think that a very useful test might be a ramp from 0 to 5,5Hz shift (say), at 0.5Hz increments. A staircase, really. This would show very clearly any issues with inaccuracies of the steps, and clarify immediately on what bands and frequencies they started to become a problem.?

I am referring to the stuff in section 8 of the manual (page 28). A customised message to produce a staircase of shifts from 0 to 5.5 Hz, with 5 seconds spent on each stair. The staircase will take 1 minute. This will make it much easier to see what is going on than images of WSPR, which spends only a short time on each frequency so looks messy on the Argo (etc) display.

The required mode should be FSK/CW, and the Message string contains the speed and the shifts, with an asterix ' * ' character to start and end it. So it should be *050123456789AB* for the described ramp.

73 Hans G0UPL


On Sat, May 18, 2013 at 11:33 PM, g3zjo <g3zjo@...> wrote:
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Further update on this problem.

G0FTD seems to have intermittent thin WSPR data trace and no de-codes on
28MHz but has seen a decode or 2 of his own signal after fiddling.

My unit is absolutely consistent with its performance.

Further tests here and measurements reveal that that WSPR Data spacing
is totally wrong. At 7.00MHz the difference between tone 0 and tone 3 is
10Hz this decodes because of WSPR's tolerance, as we increase the
frequency the tone spacing gets smaller, I am not sure yet where it gets
about right but after 21MHz it has got too small for it to de-code. At
28MHz it is down to around 4Hz the WSPR data is all there but its
noticeable that Data 3 occupies the Data2 frequency.

If the frequency shift variation is linear, let us assume it is, then:-

7MHz = 10Hz
10.5MHz = 9Hz
14MHz = 8Hz
21MHz = 6Hz
22 MHz = <6Hz
28MHz = 4Hz

If I had not already established the point where decodes fail it could
be predicted from the table above, when the spacing is less than 6Hz ie
22MHz. Additionally the only frequency where it is right is 21MHz.
Tomorrow I will check the theory by measuring at 21MHz.

Eddie G3ZJO


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