Where is your home port? We sail our 1990 PSC 31 out of Port Superior in WIsconsin. We have a Zodiac dinghy? ( 8.6 footer ) that we previously used on our Flicka and Dana; it is good for 2 or 3 crew at most.
Tows well ; rolls up and stores on the foredeck; inflates quickly - has a roll up floor; currently use a 2.5 HP Honda outboard for power. Always tempted to get something a tad bigger with a hard bottom; but that would
also require a bigger engine (though it would be nice to have a REAL REVERSE gear).
There is another PSC 31 at Pikes Bay Marina ; another in Cornucopia; and Erik has one at Barkers Island ....?
May be others!
Hell we should have a PSC Rendevous on Lake Superior this summer....
Daryl Clark
s/y Intuition - PSC 331 #54
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Dear all,
This coming summer will be the second sailing season with Bella (a 31)for us. We have had for years a Dana 24, after that again for years a 34.
My question is for Lake Superior what dinghy to have?
Greetings,
Albert
Albert Planten Vanafton
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Welcome to the discussion group Albert!
Daryl?
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Thank you
Albert Planten Vanafton
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Know you are glad to have found her! Someone will be glad when they find Interlude as well.
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Thanks Richard, best of luck with her.?
I was lucky enough to purchase hull 69 this past summer, found her on Craigslist.
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On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 7:30 AM Richard J. Roderick < rjroderick1@...> wrote:
Hey Lisle,
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Yup tough decision especially considering knowing we first met her at the 1989 boat show! She is a 1989 #50, a fine example of a ‘bronze’ age boat!?
The broker who will probably list her suggested $79k given her well maintained condition. There appear to be only two for sale in the entire world and neither are in the US. This is another reason it is tough as if my circumstances change I will never be able
to get such a boat again. There can be no looking back!
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As we get closer to this tough decision I will post some pictures, though certainly ‘Yacht World’ will have the spread for all to see. Have attached
a quick look at her in her slip with all her canvas removed.
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Richard
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Hey Jeffrey,
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As Shakespeare once said “it is better to have loved and lost than to never have loved at all”. We remain grateful for the time spent with her and hopefully someday you may find yourself with another PSC.
The fact that they are still made is huge as lots of support from them for not just stuff but also advice. Just recently got a couple replacement butterfly joints and a router jig from them to install a couple butterfly joints that need replacing. Spoke with
the fellow who does this stuff and he gave me ‘best practice’ tips for the job. Very few boats of her vintage, well actually my guess none, come with this level of support.
Thanks,
Richard
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Thanks Richard. Sorry to hear of your misfortune. Both with your health and your having to part with your joy.
Years ago I owned a 3 cutter . . . wonderful boat. I miss her and often think about returning to a Pacific Seacraft.
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On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 7:43 AM Richard J. Roderick < rjroderick1@...> wrote:
Hey Jeffrey,
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My initial post was to move the difficult decision to part with her forward. I am not in a position to deal with an actual sale now, though I guess
if someone wanted her now clearly I would figure those logistics out. Since a recent surgery I have been told to not lift more than 10 pounds for 6 weeks. Heck can’t even get her sails back on yet! As far as a price we have been advised to consider $79k given
both her condition and market condition. As you are aware these boats hold their value well regardless of market which is more than I can say for myself recently! Lol.
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Richard
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All lives matter, including the unborn.
"To love is to will the good of the other."
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Thanks Richard. Sorry to hear of your misfortune. Both with your health and your having to part with your joy.
Years ago I owned a 3 cutter . . . wonderful boat. I miss her and often think about returning to a Pacific Seacraft.
Jeff
On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 7:43 AM Richard J. Roderick < rjroderick1@...> wrote:
Hey Jeffrey,
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My initial post was to move the difficult decision to part with her forward. I am not in a position to deal with an actual sale now, though I guess if someone wanted her now clearly I would figure those logistics
out. Since a recent surgery I have been told to not lift more than 10 pounds for 6 weeks. Heck can’t even get her sails back on yet! As far as a price we have been advised to consider $79k given both her condition and market condition. As you are aware these
boats hold their value well regardless of market which is more than I can say for myself recently! Lol.
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Richard
-- All lives matter, including the unborn. ------ "To love is to will the good of the other." - Saint Thomas Aquinas
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Thanks Richard, best of luck with her.?
I was lucky enough to purchase hull 69 this past summer, found her on Craigslist.
Best,
Lisle
On Tue, Jan 17, 2023 at 7:30 AM Richard J. Roderick < rjroderick1@...> wrote:
Hey Lisle,
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Yup tough decision especially considering knowing we first met her at the 1989 boat show! She is a 1989 #50, a fine example of a ‘bronze’ age boat!? The broker who will probably list her suggested $79k given
her well maintained condition. There appear to be only two for sale in the entire world and neither are in the US. This is another reason it is tough as if my circumstances change I will never be able to get such a boat again. There can be no looking back!
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As we get closer to this tough decision I will post some pictures, though certainly ‘Yacht World’ will have the spread for all to see. Have attached a quick look at her in her slip with all her canvas removed.
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Richard
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Hey Jeffrey,
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My initial post was to move the difficult decision to part with her forward. I am not in a position to deal with an actual sale now, though I guess if someone wanted her now clearly I would figure those logistics
out. Since a recent surgery I have been told to not lift more than 10 pounds for 6 weeks. Heck can’t even get her sails back on yet! As far as a price we have been advised to consider $79k given both her condition and market condition. As you are aware these
boats hold their value well regardless of market which is more than I can say for myself recently! Lol.
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Richard
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Hey Lisle,
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Yup tough decision especially considering knowing we first met her at the 1989 boat show! She is a 1989 #50, a fine example of a ‘bronze’ age boat! ?The broker who will probably list her suggested $79k given
her well maintained condition. There appear to be only two for sale in the entire world and neither are in the US. This is another reason it is tough as if my circumstances change I will never be able to get such a boat again. There can be no looking back!
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As we get closer to this tough decision I will post some pictures, though certainly ‘Yacht World’ will have the spread for all to see. Have attached a quick look at her in her slip with all her canvas removed.
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Richard
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Richard, you can create an album for Interlude and post photos to it. Sorry to hear health problems have curtailed your sailing...
Daryl
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And no photos or info within your post? Why omit such info if your intentions are to sell?
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Tough decision I’m sure. Out of curiosity what year and what price do you have in mind? I’m sure you’ll have no difficulty selling her.
Lisle
On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 2:02 PM Richard J. Roderick < rjroderick1@...> wrote: Well, don't even know where to start. We returned to sailing a few years ago after a 25 year hiatus with the purchase of our Pacific Seacraft 31. We had gone aboard a 31 at the Annapolis boat show in 1989 as we were giving up sailing secondary to buying a farm (which makes buying a boat seem less crazy!), career, raising family, and much white water paddling. Something had to go and living almost three hours from our boat it was sailing. We had always dreamed of a 31 and so when we were ready to return to sailing the hunt was on. Interlude was most likely the actual boat we were on at the boat show, as her owner had purchased her at the show the year we first went aboard one. It was meant to be!
Fast forward a few years and now the past three years post injury and a significant health event has left her sitting at the dock way too much. A boat like her was meant to be sailed, so though a difficult decision it is time to help her find a new owner who will love her like we have. We anticipate putting her on the market in late March after she is back in the water. In the interim we thought it would be ?wise to put the information out there in case there are others who are ready to have such a craft. She has been well cared for and I will be glad to outline all the care that has been provided. She is at a marina off of the lower Chesapeake Bay. In our humble and clearly prejudiced opinion, the 31's are the best mix of everything we sought in a boat. She will be missed.?
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Battery bank is 220 amp hour (plus 75 amp hour starter). Alternator came with boat and is an old Ample power model - don’t know its technical output, but it delivers all I need at low revs with the system now installed. Standard belt working quite happily so far. The wet locker behind the head seems to have become my electronics area - old ample power smart reg and battery splitter were installed there along with heater and fridge compressor anyway - can’t remember details of ground wire size, but basically ripped out all old wiring and rewired everything following recommendations / requirements of equipment installed. I made some basic wiring diagrams at the time which I should have somewhere - could try to find them if of interest (not great at record keeping).?
I hasten to add that I have no expertise in electrics, electronic or anything else for that matter, just enjoy the challenges thrown up maintaining and updating a 32 year old PSC 31 (1989 No 48) and keeps me occupied when not sailing. Last year I changed the chainplates and was amazed at how rotten the old ones were on close inspection after removal - scary! This winter possibly a new main hatch - I can’t get the lens to stay sealed in the old one for any length of time - any ideas?
My favourite addition so far has been the (expensive) purchase a couple of years ago of a Parasailor down wind sail which is flown like an asymmetric spinnaker, but works dead down wind as a symmetric would, but without a pole and all the associated lines (I’m getting older and usually single handed) - I love it!
Andy
Ps. ?The world of electronics moves on so quickly that what was current thinking a few years ago is probably outdated now!
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On 8 Jan 2023, at 15:37, Daryl Clark < dlclark@...> wrote:
On Sun, Jan 1, 2023 at 11:08 AM, Andrew Cook wrote:
Changed my '89 system (existing high output alternator) to a Sterling Power Pro Reg BW regulator and a Prosplit R180 controlling battery charging (also added a Pro protect alternator protector whilst at it for extra peace of mind). and a victron smart shunt to monitor from phone. Lots of wiring info on Sterling and Victron websites. All works great and very happy with it - though I have stuck with lead acid batteries - again perfectly happy
What size battery bank do you have? Did you install a Balmar or other alternator and what amperage? Serpentine belt? Where did you install the Sterling regulator? Did you need to also alter the DC ground wire size? Both Victron and Sterling seem to make quality products.? Daryl
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Interlude will be for sale soon
Well, don't even know where to start. We returned to sailing a few years ago after a 25 year hiatus with the purchase of our Pacific Seacraft 31. We had gone aboard a 31 at the Annapolis boat show in 1989 as we were giving up sailing secondary to buying a farm (which makes buying a boat seem less crazy!), career, raising family, and much white water paddling. Something had to go and living almost three hours from our boat it was sailing. We had always dreamed of a 31 and so when we were ready to return to sailing the hunt was on. Interlude was most likely the actual boat we were on at the boat show, as her owner had purchased her at the show the year we first went aboard one. It was meant to be!
Fast forward a few years and now the past three years post injury and a significant health event has left her sitting at the dock way too much. A boat like her was meant to be sailed, so though a difficult decision it is time to help her find a new owner who will love her like we have. We anticipate putting her on the market in late March after she is back in the water. In the interim we thought it would be ?wise to put the information out there in case there are others who are ready to have such a craft. She has been well cared for and I will be glad to outline all the care that has been provided. She is at a marina off of the lower Chesapeake Bay. In our humble and clearly prejudiced opinion, the 31's are the best mix of everything we sought in a boat. She will be missed.?
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On Sun, Jan 1, 2023 at 11:08 AM, Andrew Cook wrote:
Changed my '89 system (existing high output alternator) to a Sterling Power Pro Reg BW regulator and a Prosplit R180 controlling battery charging (also added a Pro protect alternator protector whilst at it for extra peace of mind). and a victron smart shunt to monitor from phone. Lots of wiring info on Sterling and Victron websites. All works great and very happy with it - though I have stuck with lead acid batteries - again perfectly happy
What size battery bank do you have? Did you install a Balmar or other alternator and what amperage? Serpentine belt? Where did you install the Sterling regulator? Did you need to also alter the DC ground wire size? Both Victron and Sterling seem to make quality products.? Daryl
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Kate,
I will probably go with a Smart DC-DC charger - Victron has a nice 30 AMP unit; they allow you to apply difference charge profiles to the house bank that are different from the starter.
So, this would replace the Blue Sea ACR? functionality - I don't believe the Blue Sea ACR does different charge profiles.
Supposedly, some of the new AC based battery chargers coming out will also include this functionality: they basically have mulltiple chargers in one unit for multiple battery banks and also couple directly to the alternator to act as a smart voltage regulator using the charger profiles assigned. Also would like to be able to take advantage of LITHIUM Phosphate battery technology at some point - prices seem to be coming down.
Daryl
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Daryl-
When you add your starter battery: ?my understanding is that alternators are single output chargers (i.e., only one of your two banks will be charged by the alternator unless you combine the two banks when your engine is running). ?I did not want to have
to combine my batteries manually (via the battery switch) when I was running my engine so I use a BlueSea ACR that automatically combines my two banks when it detects a charging source. ? I’ve been very happy with this method — when underway, I turn both of
my banks on and then never have to fiddle with the battery switch again regardless of whether my engine is running.
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On Jan 1, 2023, at 12:25 PM, Daryl Clark <dlclark@...> wrote:
?Andy,
I also purchased VIctron's Smart Shunt and will be installing this month when I make the journey up to Bayfield to check out how Intuition is fairing the winter season - it will be helpful to know TRUE LOADS for planning and for the future!?
Which high output alternator did you go with? What amperage? What is your normal load like on your PSC 31??
Do you have a separate starting battery? Currently have two Lifeline AGM Group 31 batteries - each in a separate bank. Planning on combining them into the house bank and adding a starting battery.
The AGM's are 5 years old now - I have had lifeline batteries in both the Flicka and Dana without issues - the Flicka batteries were still going strong after 10 years - but the loads were not quite what they are on Intuition with refrigeration.
I had some issues last summer with the AGM battery/ alternator performance - (my investigation found the negative battery connections appeared to be loose, thus the batteries were not charged properly.?
The biggest issue is the Hitachi alternator just is not up to the task of keeping a 210 AMP/Hour battery bank charged up in a reasonable timeframe for weeks of cruising (even a few days at this point).
Not sure if the batteries are toast now or not - will be doing some state of charge testing when I go up. If the batteries are still good, I want to plan a charging system that can handle LITHIUM batteries in the future.
I will check out the Sterling Power products - thanks for that information - I will check out their product literature..
The WAKESPEED 500 smart alternator regulator looks interesting.
Daryl
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Andy,
I also purchased VIctron's Smart Shunt and will be installing this month when I make the journey up to Bayfield to check out how Intuition is fairing the winter season - it will be helpful to know TRUE LOADS for planning and for the future!?
Which high output alternator did you go with? What amperage? What is your normal load like on your PSC 31??
Do you have a separate starting battery? Currently have two Lifeline AGM Group 31 batteries - each in a separate bank. Planning on combining them into the house bank and adding a starting battery.
The AGM's are 5 years old now - I have had lifeline batteries in both the Flicka and Dana without issues - the Flicka batteries were still going strong after 10 years - but the loads were not quite what they are on Intuition with refrigeration.
I had some issues last summer with the AGM battery/ alternator performance - (my investigation found the negative battery connections appeared to be loose, thus the batteries were not charged properly.?
The biggest issue is the Hitachi alternator just is not up to the task of keeping a 210 AMP/Hour battery bank charged up in a reasonable timeframe for weeks of cruising (even a few days at this point).
Not sure if the batteries are toast now or not - will be doing some state of charge testing when I go up. If the batteries are still good, I want to plan a charging system that can handle LITHIUM batteries in the future.
I will check out the Sterling Power products - thanks for that information - I will check out their product literature..
The WAKESPEED 500 smart alternator regulator looks interesting.
Daryl
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Hi Daryl
Changed my '89 system (existing high output alternator) to a Sterling Power Pro Reg BW regulator and a Prosplit R180 controlling battery charging (also added a Pro protect alternator protector whilst at it for extra peace of mind). and a victron smart shunt to monitor from phone. Lots of wiring info on Sterling and Victron websites. All works great and very happy with it - though I have stuck with lead acid batteries - again perfectly happy.
Now just switch on and go, leaving the control to the electronics with no issues after 2 years. Hope that helps and good luck!
Andy
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On 29 Dec 2022, at 05:17, Daryl Clark < dlclark@...> wrote:
Planning a future upgrade of the Hitachi alternator to provide SMART CHARGING regulation.
Wondering what others have done on their PSC 31's.
Daryl()
S/Y Intuition - PSC 31 #54
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