Re: ideas to encourage cane use for a toddler
Could she be encouraged to reach out and explore with the cane to find things (on or near the ground!) that she wouldn’t otherwise find? ?Maybe some treasure hunts? -- Dona
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On Jun 7, 2020, at 2:02 PM, Rosemary Gribbin <jumbiee9740@...> wrote: ? Holding hands On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 1:54 PM Craig Phillips < 1700cleep@...> wrote: "walking outside with her family" independently or tethered (hand, arm, etc.)? ?? Craig Phillips, MS Ed. COMS “That which we persist in doing becomes easier to do, not that the
nature of the thing has changed but that our power to do has increased.”??Ralph Waldo Emerson
Hi? Does anyone have any suggestions to encourage a toddler to use her cane? She was using it for several weeks but has now decided that she is familiar enough walking outside with her family and doesn't need it anymore.? Other than having her walk an unfamiliar route, does anyone have any other ideas?
Thank you
Rosemary Gribbin? Lighthouse Vision Loss Education Center Sarasota Fl
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Re: ideas to encourage cane use for a toddler
Some people and toddlers are independent by nature, though not everyone is. I cannot tell you how many blind adults come to the center for independent living where I work and are content to not ?learn their way around a very simple building layout and prefer
to travel sighted guide whenever anyone offers. I feel certain this must ?also be true for young children. Not being a professional, I will not suggest specifics, but I do encourage not over enabling both adults and children who are b/lv to believe that traveling
sighted guide is the best way to travel all the time.
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Hi?
Does anyone have any suggestions to encourage a toddler to use her cane? She was using it for several weeks but has now decided that she is familiar enough walking outside with her family and doesn't need it anymore.?
Other than having her walk an unfamiliar route, does anyone have any other ideas?
Thank you
Rosemary Gribbin?
Lighthouse Vision Loss Education Center
Sarasota Fl
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Re: ideas to encourage cane use for a toddler
Dr. Grace Ambrose-Zaken, COMS
Nothing we can do will enable a toddler to properly use a rod cane all day/every day, instead we need to solve the toddler's problem. To do that identify the toddler as not yet able to benefit from a rod cane. Therefore, since toddlers who are mobility
visually impaired and blind need mobility tools everywhere they walk, just like an adult who is blind.
Maybe ask - what tool will a toddler who is blind obtain consistent tactile path information from - all the time. all day, every day?
There are three canes now- there is the rod cane, that requires the user sweep back and forth to create an arc.
There is the rectangular cane - the user simply pushes the arc forward - much easier and very effective.
There is a belt cane - the toddler can wear her cane all the time - and learn how to feel safe and confident about exploring everywhere.
for more information? about belt canes.
Dr. Grace Ambrose-Zaken, Certified O&M Specialist
Project Coordinator RT and O&M Programs
Hunter College CUNY
695 Park Ave 1140W
New York, NY 10065
212-772-4741
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On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 1:54 PM Craig Phillips < 1700cleep@...> wrote:
"walking outside with her family" independently or tethered (hand, arm, etc.)?
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Craig Phillips, MS Ed. COMS
“That which we persist in doing becomes easier to do, not that the nature of the thing has changed but that our power to do has increased.”??Ralph
Waldo Emerson
Hi?
Does anyone have any suggestions to encourage a toddler to use her cane? She was using it for several weeks but has now decided that she is familiar enough walking outside with her family and doesn't need it anymore.?
Other than having her walk an unfamiliar route, does anyone have any other ideas?
Thank you
Rosemary Gribbin?
Lighthouse Vision Loss Education Center
Sarasota Fl
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Re: ideas to encourage cane use for a toddler
I agree. Unfortunately I can't do a direct session right now.. Ina few weeks hopefully we will take a walk and get back to using the cane
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 2:10 PM Craig Phillips < 1700cleep@...> wrote: Thinking from her perspective...why should I use my cane when I have someone's hand? Wonder what will happen if that hand is no longer there? A hyssy?fit or two initially, I bet, but in the long run? Craig Phillips, MS Ed. COMS “That which we persist in doing becomes easier to do, not that the
nature of the thing has changed but that our power to do has increased.”??Ralph Waldo Emerson
Holding hands
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 1:54 PM Craig Phillips < 1700cleep@...> wrote: "walking outside with her family" independently or tethered (hand, arm, etc.)? ?? Craig Phillips, MS Ed. COMS “That which we persist in doing becomes easier to do, not that the
nature of the thing has changed but that our power to do has increased.”??Ralph Waldo Emerson
Hi? Does anyone have any suggestions to encourage a toddler to use her cane? She was using it for several weeks but has now decided that she is familiar enough walking outside with her family and doesn't need it anymore.? Other than having her walk an unfamiliar route, does anyone have any other ideas?
Thank you
Rosemary Gribbin? Lighthouse Vision Loss Education Center Sarasota Fl
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Re: ideas to encourage cane use for a toddler
Dr. Grace Ambrose-Zaken, COMS
We need to stop thinking that toddlers are cognitively mature enough to understand what the consequence of their decisions are- when toddlers don't want to be in a car seat- would your advice be- well let the toddler experience a car crash- then she'll
sit in her car seat without a problem.
We are the adults, we make sure they are strapped in car seats and we need to provide toddlers who are mobility visually impaired and blind with mobility tools that actually provide them with effective path information- from which to learn confidence.
Dr. Grace Ambrose-Zaken, Certified O&M Specialist
Project Coordinator RT and O&M Programs
Hunter College CUNY
695 Park Ave 1140W
New York, NY 10065
212-772-4741
Top 5 Reasons to Choose Hunter Programs in Blindness and Visual Impairments:
?
Hunter College ITI Programs: Advanced Certificate in TVI
and O&M?
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Thinking from her perspective...why should I use my cane when I have someone's hand? Wonder what will happen if that hand is no longer there? A hyssy?fit or two initially, I bet, but in the long run?
Craig Phillips, MS Ed. COMS
“That which we persist in doing becomes easier to do, not that the nature of the thing has changed but that our power to do has increased.”??Ralph
Waldo Emerson
Holding hands
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 1:54 PM Craig Phillips < 1700cleep@...> wrote:
"walking outside with her family" independently or tethered (hand, arm, etc.)?
??
Craig Phillips, MS Ed. COMS
“That which we persist in doing becomes easier to do, not that the nature of the thing has changed but that our power to do has increased.”??Ralph
Waldo Emerson
Hi?
Does anyone have any suggestions to encourage a toddler to use her cane? She was using it for several weeks but has now decided that she is familiar enough walking outside with her family and doesn't need it anymore.?
Other than having her walk an unfamiliar route, does anyone have any other ideas?
Thank you
Rosemary Gribbin?
Lighthouse Vision Loss Education Center
Sarasota Fl
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Re: ideas to encourage cane use for a toddler-don't encourage- solve the problem
Dr. Grace Ambrose-Zaken, COMS
We don't need to encourage the child- we need to solve the child's problem.
To do that we need to talk about toddlers who need mobility tools for effective path information in a new way.
The toddlers you mentioned should be identified as a child who is not benefiting from a rod cane. Therefore, since toddlers who are mobility visually impaired and blind need mobility tools everywhere they walk, just like an adult. The thing to ask is -
what tool will a toddler who is blind obtain consistent tactile path information from - all the time. all day, every day?
There are three canes now- there is the rod cane, that requires the user sweep back and forth to create an arc.
There is the rectangular cane - the user simply pushes the arc forward - much easier and very effective.
There is a belt cane - the toddler can wear her cane all the time - and learn how to feel safe and confident about exploring everywhere.
for more information? about belt canes.
Dr. Grace Ambrose-Zaken, Certified O&M Specialist
Project Coordinator RT and O&M Programs
Hunter College CUNY
695 Park Ave 1140W
New York, NY 10065
212-772-4741
Top 5 Reasons to Choose Hunter Programs in Blindness and Visual Impairments:
?
Hunter College ITI Programs: Advanced Certificate in TVI
and O&M?
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Hi?
Does anyone have any suggestions to encourage a toddler to use her cane? She was using it for several weeks but has now decided that she is familiar enough walking outside with her family and doesn't need it anymore.?
Other than having her walk an unfamiliar route, does anyone have any other ideas?
Thank you
Rosemary Gribbin?
Lighthouse Vision Loss Education Center
Sarasota Fl
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Re: ideas to encourage cane use for a toddler
Thinking from her perspective...why should I use my cane when I have someone's hand? Wonder what will happen if that hand is no longer there? A hyssy?fit or two initially, I bet, but in the long run? Craig Phillips, MS Ed. COMS “That which we persist in doing becomes easier to do, not that the
nature of the thing has changed but that our power to do has increased.”??Ralph Waldo Emerson
Holding hands
On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 1:54 PM Craig Phillips < 1700cleep@...> wrote: "walking outside with her family" independently or tethered (hand, arm, etc.)? ?? Craig Phillips, MS Ed. COMS “That which we persist in doing becomes easier to do, not that the
nature of the thing has changed but that our power to do has increased.”??Ralph Waldo Emerson
Hi? Does anyone have any suggestions to encourage a toddler to use her cane? She was using it for several weeks but has now decided that she is familiar enough walking outside with her family and doesn't need it anymore.? Other than having her walk an unfamiliar route, does anyone have any other ideas?
Thank you
Rosemary Gribbin? Lighthouse Vision Loss Education Center Sarasota Fl
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Re: ideas to encourage cane use for a toddler
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On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 1:54 PM Craig Phillips < 1700cleep@...> wrote: "walking outside with her family" independently or tethered (hand, arm, etc.)? ?? Craig Phillips, MS Ed. COMS “That which we persist in doing becomes easier to do, not that the
nature of the thing has changed but that our power to do has increased.”??Ralph Waldo Emerson
Hi? Does anyone have any suggestions to encourage a toddler to use her cane? She was using it for several weeks but has now decided that she is familiar enough walking outside with her family and doesn't need it anymore.? Other than having her walk an unfamiliar route, does anyone have any other ideas?
Thank you
Rosemary Gribbin? Lighthouse Vision Loss Education Center Sarasota Fl
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Re: ideas to encourage cane use for a toddler
Obstacle course? ?What if her other traveling companions were using white cane like devices so she doesn’t feel self conscious ? ? Or have her conduct a running monologue about what she is detecting with the cane?
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On Jun 7, 2020, at 1:43 PM, Rosemary Gribbin <jumbiee9740@...> wrote:
? Hi? Does anyone have any suggestions to encourage a toddler to use her cane? She was using it for several weeks but has now decided that she is familiar enough walking outside with her family and doesn't need it anymore.? Other than having her walk an unfamiliar route, does anyone have any other ideas?
Thank you
Rosemary Gribbin? Lighthouse Vision Loss Education Center Sarasota Fl
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Re: ideas to encourage cane use for a toddler
"walking outside with her family" independently or tethered (hand, arm, etc.)? ?? Craig Phillips, MS Ed. COMS “That which we persist in doing becomes easier to do, not that the
nature of the thing has changed but that our power to do has increased.”??Ralph Waldo Emerson
Hi? Does anyone have any suggestions to encourage a toddler to use her cane? She was using it for several weeks but has now decided that she is familiar enough walking outside with her family and doesn't need it anymore.? Other than having her walk an unfamiliar route, does anyone have any other ideas?
Thank you
Rosemary Gribbin? Lighthouse Vision Loss Education Center Sarasota Fl
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ideas to encourage cane use for a toddler
Hi? Does anyone have any suggestions to encourage a toddler to use her cane? She was using it for several weeks but has now decided that she is familiar enough walking outside with her family and doesn't need it anymore.? Other than having her walk an unfamiliar route, does anyone have any other ideas?
Thank you
Rosemary Gribbin? Lighthouse Vision Loss Education Center Sarasota Fl
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Remotely teaching street-crossing skills with APH program -- QUESTION
Hi Nanette!? I hope you don’t mind my sending this to the listservs,
as others probably have the same question.
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To teach these advanced street-crossing skills remotely, you purchase only
one flashdrive from APH for $25, and install it on your computer or device (it
has to be Microsoft Windows compatible).
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Then you can use it to teach as many students as you want (it will record
the progress for each of them), AND other instructors can also use it to teach
their students (their records will be recorded separately).
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This was intended for you and the student to use it while sitting together
at your computer, but we figured out you can do it WITH your student while he or
she is safely at home, by using a program that allows them to remotely press
buttons on your computer using their keyboard.? Examples and videos of
using it are at ?
--? I suggest that you go through the training program yourself to become
familiar before using it to help you teach students.
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The APH software / flashdrive can be bought at
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Thanks for asking, Nanette, I hope that clears it up.?
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Re: [EXTERNAL] [OandM] Old Cane Tips
Perfect!
Gina J. Schmid
Certified Orientation & Mobility Specialist (COMS)
Vision Services
(301)613-7378 cell
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Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] [OandM] Old Cane Tips
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Hi Gina; Paul relayed the following message…
Top of the morning to you all!
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Yes, we still collect O&M canes and other instructional materials for overseas use.
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Please email me directly at? hscmltd@...?for donated instructional materials.
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Thanks.
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Sincerely yours,
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Paul Ajuwon
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Chris Tabb
Mobile: 512.660.2750
Good question- there was someone collecting items some time back to send to other countries.? I hope he sees this and will let us know for I have some canes and tips to donate too!? Anyone know who that gentleman was?
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Certified Orientation & Mobility Specialist (COMS)
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Hi Gina; Paul relayed the following message…
Top of the morning to you all! ? Yes, we still collect O&M canes and other instructional materials for overseas use. ? Please email me directly at? hscmltd@...?for donated instructional materials. ? Thanks. ? ? Sincerely yours, ? Paul Ajuwon ?
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Good question- there was someone collecting items some time back to send to other countries.? I hope he sees this and will let us know for I have some canes and tips to donate too!? Anyone know who that gentleman was?
Gina J. Schmid Certified Orientation & Mobility Specialist (COMS)
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CAUTION:?This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. ? Does anyone use these old slip and screw on tips? Or know where they could find a good home?
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Re: [EXTERNAL] [OandM] Old Cane Tips
Yes Chris- that is who it was.? Do we know if he signed up to this listserv?? Thanks!? I will search some old emails and see if I can find his contact info:)
Gina J. Schmid
Certified Orientation & Mobility Specialist (COMS)
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I believe that was Paul Ajuwon, but there was another gentleman as well whose name I cannot remember.
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Chris Tabb
Mobile: 512.660.2750
Good question- there was someone collecting items some time back to send to other countries.? I hope he sees this and will let us know for I have some canes and tips to donate too!? Anyone know who that gentleman was?
Gina J. Schmid
Certified Orientation & Mobility Specialist (COMS)
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Does anyone use these old slip and screw on tips? Or know where they could find a good home?
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Another possibility for donations is the “You Cane Give” initiative.
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I believe that was Paul Ajuwon, but there was another gentleman as well whose name I cannot remember.
— Chris Tabb
Mobile: 512.660.2750
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Good question- there was someone collecting items some time back to send to other countries.? I hope he sees this and will let us know for I have some canes and tips to donate too!? Anyone know who that gentleman was?
Gina J. Schmid Certified Orientation & Mobility Specialist (COMS)
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CAUTION:?This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe. ? Does anyone use these old slip and screw on tips? Or know where they could find a good home?
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Re: [EXTERNAL] [OandM] Old Cane Tips
Good question- there was someone collecting items some time back to send to other countries.? I hope he sees this and will let us know for I have some canes and tips to donate too!? Anyone know who that gentleman was?
Gina J. Schmid
Certified Orientation & Mobility Specialist (COMS)
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CAUTION: This email originated from outside
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Does anyone use these old slip and screw on tips? Or know where they could find a good home?
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Does anyone use these old slip and screw on tips? Or know where they could find a good home? 
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Chris Tabb