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Re: O&M Lessons

 

I like discussing and creating what I call “the outside of the house tool kit.“ It’s not just about the items that you need when you leave the house for an extended period of time. It’s also where these items go either in a bag or somewhere on your body or within your clothing. I also like to work on scripting having some elevator speeches ready for some of the more common forms of assistance a student might need. Tell Jamie and Fabiana I said hi.

Doug Gilbert


O&M Lessons

 

Hi Everyone
I'm Kymberly,? a first time year student at Salus University. I? have enjoyed reading the feedback you have given my classmates for this assignment.? There are two question I have about orientation and mobility. 1. Are there other skills being taught to students such as money-handling skills or being responsible for personal belongings when traveling? 2. What are strategies are being used to help students ask for assistance from others as they travel?


Re: Focus On O&M Needs

 

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All,

I wanted to let you know that I have addressed the issues Jenny mentioned about “check all that apply” questions. If you abandoned the survey for this reason, please consider giving it another go.

I understand the comprehensiveness of the survey may be too much. We (APH) really want to try to get as much feedback from as many different customers as possible. The length of the survey is different for different customer types.

The feedback we get will directly affect the APH O&M Road Map for product development, so we need to hear from you.

Again, I apologize for any inconvenience caused by particular questions. Hopefully, I have caught them all.

Best regards to you all.

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Denise Snow, CPACC, CKM, (she/her)

UX Research Strategist

Educational Product Innovations

American Printing House

1839 Frankfort Avenue, Louisville, KY 40206

(502) 899-2288

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Hi Jenny,

Again, thanks for the feedback about the survey. I will look into those issues.

I did deliberately leave all open-ended questions as not required so folks could skip if necessary.

As I was saying to Michael, perhaps a more robust survey subscription in the future would be helpful. The ability to leave a survey and come back to continue the survey is another example. I will take this to my stakeholders.

And again, thanks for the feedback. It’s much appreciated.

Best,

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Denise Snow, CPACC, CKM, (she/her)

UX Research Strategist

Educational Product Innovations

American Printing House

1839 Frankfort Avenue, Louisville, KY 40206

(502) 899-2288

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I also quit, however, it was about 18 questions in – a number of questions said you could choose all that apply – but you could only pick one.? Also, it was 89 questions long and It took me forever to get to 18 with all the narriative questions asked.? I am sorry but I don’t have the time for such a massively time consuming survey.? Maybe, it could be condensed.? Many questions were basically the same, just asked different ways.? Thanks!

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I stopped working on this survey after the second question. It wanted me to identify which of several categories I fit in, and it would only allow me to select one. I fit in at least two or three. I refuse to limit my responses to only one category.

Michael Byington

Contact Information: Michael Byington, Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist

President of Kansas Association for the Blind and Visually Impaired

Membership Coordinator for Friends In Art of the American Council of the Blind

712 S Kansas Avenue, Suite 414

Topeka, Kansas 66603

(785) 221-7111

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O&M professionals--and students and adults with visual impairments--we invite you to participate in an essential comprehensive O&M Needs survey: .

Your insights will directly influence APH’s Focus on O&M Roadmap for the development of innovative O&M solutions aimed at enhancing independence and mobility for individuals with visual impairments.

Please take some time to complete the and share your thoughts and ideas on this important topic.
Thanks,
Denise Snow
UX Research Strategist
APH

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Hi Jenny,

Again, thanks for the feedback about the survey. I will look into those issues.

I did deliberately leave all open-ended questions as not required so folks could skip if necessary.

As I was saying to Michael, perhaps a more robust survey subscription in the future would be helpful. The ability to leave a survey and come back to continue the survey is another example. I will take this to my stakeholders.

And again, thanks for the feedback. It’s much appreciated.

Best,

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Denise Snow, CPACC, CKM, (she/her)

UX Research Strategist

Educational Product Innovations

American Printing House

1839 Frankfort Avenue, Louisville, KY 40206

(502) 899-2288

dsnow@...

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Luttrell, Jenny via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2024 4:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [OandM] Focus On O&M Needs

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You don't often get email from jenny.luttrell@....

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I also quit, however, it was about 18 questions in – a number of questions said you could choose all that apply – but you could only pick one.? Also, it was 89 questions long and It took me forever to get to 18 with all the narriative questions asked.? I am sorry but I don’t have the time for such a massively time consuming survey.? Maybe, it could be condensed.? Many questions were basically the same, just asked different ways.? Thanks!

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael Byington via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2024 3:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OandM] Focus On O&M Needs

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You don't often get email from byingtoncoms@....

I stopped working on this survey after the second question. It wanted me to identify which of several categories I fit in, and it would only allow me to select one. I fit in at least two or three. I refuse to limit my responses to only one category.

Michael Byington

Contact Information: Michael Byington, Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist

President of Kansas Association for the Blind and Visually Impaired

Membership Coordinator for Friends In Art of the American Council of the Blind

712 S Kansas Avenue, Suite 414

Topeka, Kansas 66603

(785) 221-7111

ByingtonCOMS@...

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of dsnow via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2024 1:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [OandM] Focus On O&M Needs

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O&M professionals--and students and adults with visual impairments--we invite you to participate in an essential comprehensive O&M Needs survey: .

Your insights will directly influence APH’s Focus on O&M Roadmap for the development of innovative O&M solutions aimed at enhancing independence and mobility for individuals with visual impairments.

Please take some time to complete the and share your thoughts and ideas on this important topic.
Thanks,
Denise Snow
UX Research Strategist
APH

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Michael,

I really appreciate you letting me know, and I’m so sorry the inconvenience. The reasoning for the limitation to only pick one choice is that the survey has applied logic that directs you, based on how you answered, to certain sections of the survey. That way, you don’t have to go through the whole process if you are, for example, a student or adult consumer. I tried to word it in such a way that would indicate the role/position you most identify with in regards to O&M needs. I can see how that would be limiting.

However, you may take it as many times as you like. That is one option.

I really appreciate your feedback about this. I will take it to APH stakeholders as an example of the need for a more robust survey subscription in the future.

Thanks,

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Denise Snow, CPACC, CKM, (she/her)

UX Research Strategist

Educational Product Innovations

American Printing House

1839 Frankfort Avenue, Louisville, KY 40206

(502) 899-2288

dsnow@...

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael Byington via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2024 4:11 PM
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Subject: Re: [OandM] Focus On O&M Needs

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You don't often get email from byingtoncoms@....

I stopped working on this survey after the second question. It wanted me to identify which of several categories I fit in, and it would only allow me to select one. I fit in at least two or three. I refuse to limit my responses to only one category.

Michael Byington

Contact Information: Michael Byington, Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist

President of Kansas Association for the Blind and Visually Impaired

Membership Coordinator for Friends In Art of the American Council of the Blind

712 S Kansas Avenue, Suite 414

Topeka, Kansas 66603

(785) 221-7111

ByingtonCOMS@...

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of dsnow via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2024 1:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [OandM] Focus On O&M Needs

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O&M professionals--and students and adults with visual impairments--we invite you to participate in an essential comprehensive O&M Needs survey: .

Your insights will directly influence APH’s Focus on O&M Roadmap for the development of innovative O&M solutions aimed at enhancing independence and mobility for individuals with visual impairments.

Please take some time to complete the and share your thoughts and ideas on this important topic.
Thanks,
Denise Snow
UX Research Strategist
APH


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I also quit, however, it was about 18 questions in – a number of questions said you could choose all that apply – but you could only pick one.? Also, it was 89 questions long and It took me forever to get to 18 with all the narriative questions asked.? I am sorry but I don’t have the time for such a massively time consuming survey.? Maybe, it could be condensed.? Many questions were basically the same, just asked different ways.? Thanks!

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Michael Byington via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2024 3:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [OandM] Focus On O&M Needs

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You don't often get email from byingtoncoms@....

I stopped working on this survey after the second question. It wanted me to identify which of several categories I fit in, and it would only allow me to select one. I fit in at least two or three. I refuse to limit my responses to only one category.

Michael Byington

Contact Information: Michael Byington, Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist

President of Kansas Association for the Blind and Visually Impaired

Membership Coordinator for Friends In Art of the American Council of the Blind

712 S Kansas Avenue, Suite 414

Topeka, Kansas 66603

(785) 221-7111

ByingtonCOMS@...

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of dsnow via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2024 1:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [OandM] Focus On O&M Needs

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O&M professionals--and students and adults with visual impairments--we invite you to participate in an essential comprehensive O&M Needs survey: .

Your insights will directly influence APH’s Focus on O&M Roadmap for the development of innovative O&M solutions aimed at enhancing independence and mobility for individuals with visual impairments.

Please take some time to complete the and share your thoughts and ideas on this important topic.
Thanks,
Denise Snow
UX Research Strategist
APH

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I stopped working on this survey after the second question. It wanted me to identify which of several categories I fit in, and it would only allow me to select one. I fit in at least two or three. I refuse to limit my responses to only one category.

Michael Byington

Contact Information: Michael Byington, Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist

President of Kansas Association for the Blind and Visually Impaired

Membership Coordinator for Friends In Art of the American Council of the Blind

712 S Kansas Avenue, Suite 414

Topeka, Kansas 66603

(785) 221-7111

ByingtonCOMS@...

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of dsnow via groups.io
Sent: Thursday, March 7, 2024 1:31 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [OandM] Focus On O&M Needs

?

O&M professionals--and students and adults with visual impairments--we invite you to participate in an essential comprehensive O&M Needs survey: .

Your insights will directly influence APH’s Focus on O&M Roadmap for the development of innovative O&M solutions aimed at enhancing independence and mobility for individuals with visual impairments.

Please take some time to complete the and share your thoughts and ideas on this important topic.
Thanks,
Denise Snow
UX Research Strategist
APH


Focus On O&M Needs

 

O&M professionals--and students and adults with visual impairments--we invite you to participate in an essential comprehensive O&M Needs survey: https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/FocusOnOM24.

Your insights will directly influence APH’s Focus on O&M Roadmap for the development of innovative O&M solutions aimed at enhancing independence and mobility for individuals with visual impairments.

Please take some time to complete the and share your thoughts and ideas on this important topic.
Thanks,
Denise Snow
UX Research Strategist
APH


Re: O&M and Music

 

I love this! I’m actually currently a Music Therapist, so everything you wrote was so in tune (pun intended) and aligned with a MT approach. I’m excited to blend the two together.?


Re: O&M and Music

 

Thank you so much for the links! This is great!!


Re: O&M and Music

 

You all are tackling a really inspiring issue. I'm very impressed at how you use your creativity to motivate your clients and to empower them by helping them discover their own resources. More power to you!

Pamela Cory
retired MA, CVRT Therapist in Hamburg, Germany


On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 9:57?PM Michael Byington <ByingtonCOMS@...> wrote:

Before I went back to Graduate school, to study for my O&M credential, my first Graduate level credential was as a Drama Therapist. Needless to say, I see a lot of connections between O&M and the arts. I have done numerous O&M lessons to music venues, especially with clients who had strong interests. This has included clients who had developed a strong interest in Karaoke. When I was working with working age populations in Wichita, I had a professional harmonica player client who was losing his vision because of retinitis pigmentosa. I am certainly no professional musician, but at the end of our O&M lesson, I used to pull out a harmonica, and we would do a duet or two. One of the things he wanted to do was improve his comfort level at being on stage with various bands in the area who would invite him to play, We worked on some stage strategies which he seemed to find helpful. I went to one of his performances at a local bar after our lessons were about completed, and he invited me up to do a duet with him, a real pleasure. Another client in Wichita who had been a professional musician worked with me on general O&M. He had experienced a severe stroke which impacted not only his vision, but also some coordination and processing. He had been a guitarist, and thought that he would never be able to return to the musician world. My amateur harmonica playing came in handy with him too. He had not picked up a guitar at all after his stroke and resultant vision loss, but I would pull out a harmonica at the end of our lesson, and this would encourage him to get out his guitar and try some things. He frankly was not very capable when starting out, as compared to his pre-stroke capabilities, but he was improving. Unfortunately, he had another medical problem that caused him to die before we made a lot of progress, but it was good that he became motivated to try some things again at the end of his life. I also worked with a client who had been a cruise ship singer before losing most of his vision. He was still a great crooner, but he explained that, when working on cruise ships, he would wander through the cruse ship venues with a cordless mic, and schmooze with the passengers. We thus worked on his being able to use his cane to move gracefully through venues as he had before his vision loss. I did not track him after he left the rehabilitation facility where I worked with him, but there was no reason why he could not have returned to entertainment in venues such as the ones he had served as a sighted entertainer. These are just a few examples that happen to come to mind.

Michael Byington

Contact Information: Michael Byington, Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist

President of Kansas Association for the Blind and Visually Impaired

Membership Coordinator for Friends In Art of the American Council of the Blind

712 S Kansas Avenue, Suite 414

Topeka, Kansas 66603

(785) 221-7111

ByingtonCOMS@...

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Re: O&M and Music

 

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Before I went back to Graduate school, to study for my O&M credential, my first Graduate level credential was as a Drama Therapist. Needless to say, I see a lot of connections between O&M and the arts. I have done numerous O&M lessons to music venues, especially with clients who had strong interests. This has included clients who had developed a strong interest in Karaoke. When I was working with working age populations in Wichita, I had a professional harmonica player client who was losing his vision because of retinitis pigmentosa. I am certainly no professional musician, but at the end of our O&M lesson, I used to pull out a harmonica, and we would do a duet or two. One of the things he wanted to do was improve his comfort level at being on stage with various bands in the area who would invite him to play, We worked on some stage strategies which he seemed to find helpful. I went to one of his performances at a local bar after our lessons were about completed, and he invited me up to do a duet with him, a real pleasure. Another client in Wichita who had been a professional musician worked with me on general O&M. He had experienced a severe stroke which impacted not only his vision, but also some coordination and processing. He had been a guitarist, and thought that he would never be able to return to the musician world. My amateur harmonica playing came in handy with him too. He had not picked up a guitar at all after his stroke and resultant vision loss, but I would pull out a harmonica at the end of our lesson, and this would encourage him to get out his guitar and try some things. He frankly was not very capable when starting out, as compared to his pre-stroke capabilities, but he was improving. Unfortunately, he had another medical problem that caused him to die before we made a lot of progress, but it was good that he became motivated to try some things again at the end of his life. I also worked with a client who had been a cruise ship singer before losing most of his vision. He was still a great crooner, but he explained that, when working on cruise ships, he would wander through the cruse ship venues with a cordless mic, and schmooze with the passengers. We thus worked on his being able to use his cane to move gracefully through venues as he had before his vision loss. I did not track him after he left the rehabilitation facility where I worked with him, but there was no reason why he could not have returned to entertainment in venues such as the ones he had served as a sighted entertainer. These are just a few examples that happen to come to mind.

Michael Byington

Contact Information: Michael Byington, Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist

President of Kansas Association for the Blind and Visually Impaired

Membership Coordinator for Friends In Art of the American Council of the Blind

712 S Kansas Avenue, Suite 414

Topeka, Kansas 66603

(785) 221-7111

ByingtonCOMS@...

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Re: O&M and Music

 

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HI Suzanne,

That’s a great question!
Music is a wonderful way to engage and motivate students during O&M lessons! Here is a Paths to Technology post with?. (If anyone has additional songs, please share and I’ll add them to the post!)

I have also found that students with traumatic head injury and other brain-related issues often learn best through songs or chants. The brain will create new pathways through songs and chants, helping students to learn and remember routes. Here is a post about a TBI student who uses chants and songs for O&M purposes, “reading”, and more!??Cody used a modified version of Old McDonald Had a Farm to remember the building order in his high school.

FYI: The Paths to Technology website has a?- check it out!

Welcome to the wonderful world of O&M!
Diane



On Mar 6, 2024, at 8:47 AM, Kevin McCormack via <kevin3dmack@...> wrote:

Hi Suzanne. I'm sure there are lots of examples of using music in O&M. I know I've seen some O&M-related songs printed in an O&M book, but I can't remember which one. One of the nice things about teaching O&M is that it can be tailored to the student's needs and the teacher's strengths. Actually, that is probably true in most teaching fields. Anyhow, I like to play drums. Some students are also interested in drums. This is a win-win for me and the student, because the drums can be a motivator to do an O&M task. When we are finished, it's drum time! Or I can use the drums to teach concepts, such as, "only play the drum with your left hand," or for listening and movement?I might tell them, "dance slow when I play slow, but when I play fast--dance fast." This game is always a hit. If you play another instrument, I would imagine you can find ways to incorporate it into O&M.

On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 8:22?AM Suzanne K-F <smk0005@...> wrote:

Hello! Another Master’s student from Salus with a question. First of all, thank you to all of the people who have been responding to my class assignment. I have enjoyed reading all of your responses. It’s good to know I am entering into a field where people are welcoming and willing to problem solve with each other.?

My question is… has anyone ever combined using music with O&M? Here is where I’m coming from… I currently work with students who have multiple differences, including vision loss and so many of the students are very motivated by music. I’m not talking about music while out in the community, that doesn’t sound safe, but with the students who are learning to navigate the hallways, like to motivate them to keep going, or trail the wall. Just curious. Thanks!!!





Re: O&M and Music

 

I am always using music during my O&M sessions! The students?I work with are blind and have additional disabilities. I am using daily mobility routines for my lesson structure (we travel to one or two of the same landmarks in the school during each session, adding on sessions as they begin to master the initial routes). I am constantly singing in the halls? - usually custom mobility-related lyrics to the tune of common nursery rhyme songs. I also use Spotify on my phone or a bluetooth speaker to encourage students?to localize and travel towards a sound source.

On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 7:22?AM Suzanne K-F <smk0005@...> wrote:

Hello! Another Master’s student from Salus with a question. First of all, thank you to all of the people who have been responding to my class assignment. I have enjoyed reading all of your responses. It’s good to know I am entering into a field where people are welcoming and willing to problem solve with each other.?

My question is… has anyone ever combined using music with O&M? Here is where I’m coming from… I currently work with students who have multiple differences, including vision loss and so many of the students are very motivated by music. I’m not talking about music while out in the community, that doesn’t sound safe, but with the students who are learning to navigate the hallways, like to motivate them to keep going, or trail the wall. Just curious. Thanks!!!


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Re: O&M and Music

 

Hi Suzanne. I'm sure there are lots of examples of using music in O&M. I know I've seen some O&M-related songs printed in an O&M book, but I can't remember which one. One of the nice things about teaching O&M is that it can be tailored to the student's needs and the teacher's strengths. Actually, that is probably true in most teaching fields. Anyhow, I like to play drums. Some students are also interested in drums. This is a win-win for me and the student, because the drums can be a motivator to do an O&M task. When we are finished, it's drum time! Or I can use the drums to teach concepts, such as, "only play the drum with your left hand," or for listening and movement?I might tell them, "dance slow when I play slow, but when I play fast--dance fast." This game is always a hit. If you play another instrument, I would imagine you can find ways to incorporate it into O&M.


On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 8:22?AM Suzanne K-F <smk0005@...> wrote:

Hello! Another Master’s student from Salus with a question. First of all, thank you to all of the people who have been responding to my class assignment. I have enjoyed reading all of your responses. It’s good to know I am entering into a field where people are welcoming and willing to problem solve with each other.?

My question is… has anyone ever combined using music with O&M? Here is where I’m coming from… I currently work with students who have multiple differences, including vision loss and so many of the students are very motivated by music. I’m not talking about music while out in the community, that doesn’t sound safe, but with the students who are learning to navigate the hallways, like to motivate them to keep going, or trail the wall. Just curious. Thanks!!!


O&M and Music

 

Hello! Another Master’s student from Salus with a question. First of all, thank you to all of the people who have been responding to my class assignment. I have enjoyed reading all of your responses. It’s good to know I am entering into a field where people are welcoming and willing to problem solve with each other.?

My question is… has anyone ever combined using music with O&M? Here is where I’m coming from… I currently work with students who have multiple differences, including vision loss and so many of the students are very motivated by music. I’m not talking about music while out in the community, that doesn’t sound safe, but with the students who are learning to navigate the hallways, like to motivate them to keep going, or trail the wall. Just curious. Thanks!!!


Re: Guide Dog Training skill

 

Thanks Jenine for this one, you all have been wonderful.?


On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 12:58?PM Jenine Stanley via <jenine.stanley=[email protected]> wrote:
Hello Benson,?

First off, all the best as you enter your O&M journey.?

I’m going to boil it all down to something Lukas Frack once said about using a cane and using a guide dog.?

Paraphrased here:?

Using a guide dog is like learning to play hockey. You have to learn to skate (cane training) before you can learn to follow the puck.?

As a guide dog handler, I make use of different tactile cues than I would when using my cane and my sense of space is different but timing, understanding how to interpret feedback and knowing about traffic and street layouts is the same.?

Jenine Stanley?

On Mar 5, 2024, at 10:43?AM, Stumph, Kimberly A via <kimberly.a.stumph=[email protected]> wrote:

Benson, I want to share my thoughts on your questions.
1.Part of the guide dog experience should be the responsibility of every O&M.? The O&M should be able to do the preparatory training and application info for the client.? Upon return, the O&M needs to help with orientation to the new environment and establishing routes.?
NOTE: it is important to become familiar with the guide dog schools as some have a specific way they work with the O&M as a team member.
The O&M instructs the handler, not the dog, so any instruction with the team consists of teaching/supporting the person.? If the appearance is that the dog needs skills, then the handle has been taught how to do it.? Do not hesitate to reach out to the school if you feel the partnership is not safe.? They will usually make a home visit to assess and remediate the problem.
2. The answer to the second question is: about age 25 (LOL).? Kids are constantly changing.? As they grow, their skills and needs change.? When they learn a new skill or route, their confidence dips until mastery … and there is always something new.
In general, we provide consistent services through age 21, then through any new skills needed for post secondary education or vocational needs.? There will be plateaus at different stages — and it depends on how you define independence.

I am happy to share more if you want to reach out to me privately.

Kimberly Stumph, MS, MEd, COMS, CLVT, CVRT.
Maine Division for the Blind and Visually Impaired.
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Re: Guide Dog Training skill

 

Hi Kimberly
Thank you so much for the detailed?information, and you did justice to my number 2 question. I accept the opportunity to reach out to you directly as soon as the need arises.

On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 10:43?AM Stumph, Kimberly A via <kimberly.a.stumph=[email protected]> wrote:

Benson, I want to share my thoughts on your questions.
1.Part of the guide dog experience should be the responsibility of every O&M.? The O&M should be able to do the preparatory training and application info for the client.? Upon return, the O&M needs to help with orientation to the new environment and establishing routes.?
NOTE: it is important to become familiar with the guide dog schools as some have a specific way they work with the O&M as a team member.
The O&M instructs the handler, not the dog, so any instruction with the team consists of teaching/supporting the person.? If the appearance is that the dog needs skills, then the handle has been taught how to do it.? Do not hesitate to reach out to the school if you feel the partnership is not safe.? They will usually make a home visit to assess and remediate the problem.
2. The answer to the second question is: about age 25 (LOL).? Kids are constantly changing.? As they grow, their skills and needs change.? When they learn a new skill or route, their confidence dips until mastery … and there is always something new.
In general, we provide consistent services through age 21, then through any new skills needed for post secondary education or vocational needs.? There will be plateaus at different stages — and it depends on how you define independence.

I am happy to share more if you want to reach out to me privately.

Kimberly Stumph, MS, MEd, COMS, CLVT, CVRT.
Maine Division for the Blind and Visually Impaired.
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Re: Assessing mobility level

 

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Adding to Chris’s comments, you can talk to the individual about the functional implications of their eye condition. ?I would ask them to describe their eye condition and then explain what legal blindness means related to their eye condition. ?(Most have not gotten any of this information from the eye doc only a diagnosis). I would
ask, what are you not doing now that you were before vision loss? Then review how O&M can help with addressing those issues. ?I also review human guide as family members or friends are most likely trying to ‘help’. ?

Meg Robertson COMS

On Mar 3, 2024, at 8:09?PM, Chris Tabb <chris@...> wrote:

It is helpful to have a round of functional activities that need to be done regularly, such as getting the mail, visiting the grocery story, etc. Asking how they are doing in these areas, and where possible having them demonstrate, can be very helpful in getting a sense of where they are at. It is important to not be judgmental, negative, pessimistic, etc. They just are where they are and your start with them where they are at. You will likely be able to share about others you have met who are blind and low vision and how they are able to do things independently, they just go about them in a different manner than they may have done when functioning primarily through their vision. Role models can also be very helpful if you can connect them with other adults who are living their best life.

Often times, you will have an adult begin by saying “I can’t see anything”, because their idea of not being able to see is not being able to read the newspaper. If they have residual vision, you can help them begin to understand how to use it effectively, such as with eccentric viewing, visually efficient scanning, etc. And, if they are truly at a level of functional blindness, helping them connect with their auditory, tactile, proprioceptive, and kinesthetic senses will help them realize they really can relate to the world around them, just in ways they are not practiced at yet.



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Hi! I am a beginning Orientation and Mobility Specialist at Salus University. I have really enjoyed being a part of this group and being able to start to become familiar with the issues that are current in our field and the opportunities that are available. I am interested in working with adults and had a question as I was thinking through some of these issues. When you meet a new adult client who is also newly visually impaired and discuss their hopes and goals for their O&M training, how do talk with them about assessing their mobility level particularly if they are still emotionally adjusting to their new situation???



Re: Guide Dog Training skill

 

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Hello Benson,?

First off, all the best as you enter your O&M journey.?

I’m going to boil it all down to something Lukas Frack once said about using a cane and using a guide dog.?

Paraphrased here:?

Using a guide dog is like learning to play hockey. You have to learn to skate (cane training) before you can learn to follow the puck.?

As a guide dog handler, I make use of different tactile cues than I would when using my cane and my sense of space is different but timing, understanding how to interpret feedback and knowing about traffic and street layouts is the same.?

Jenine Stanley?

On Mar 5, 2024, at 10:43?AM, Stumph, Kimberly A via groups.io <kimberly.a.stumph@...> wrote:

Benson, I want to share my thoughts on your questions.
1.Part of the guide dog experience should be the responsibility of every O&M. ?The O&M should be able to do the preparatory training and application info for the client. ?Upon return, the O&M needs to help with orientation to the new environment and establishing routes.?
NOTE: it is important to become familiar with the guide dog schools as some have a specific way they work with the O&M as a team member.
The O&M instructs the handler, not the dog, so any instruction with the team consists of teaching/supporting the person. ?If the appearance is that the dog needs skills, then the handle has been taught how to do it. ?Do not hesitate to reach out to the school if you feel the partnership is not safe. ?They will usually make a home visit to assess and remediate the problem.
2. The answer to the second question is: about age 25 (LOL). ?Kids are constantly changing. ?As they grow, their skills and needs change. ?When they learn a new skill or route, their confidence dips until mastery … and there is always something new.
In general, we provide consistent services through age 21, then through any new skills needed for post secondary education or vocational needs. ?There will be plateaus at different stages — and it depends on how you define independence.

I am happy to share more if you want to reach out to me privately.

Kimberly Stumph, MS, MEd, COMS, CLVT, CVRT.
Maine Division for the Blind and Visually Impaired.
Kimberly.a.stumph@...

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Thanks for throwing more light.

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State of Maine
Division for the Blind and Visually Impaired
207 446-7779
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