Free webinar Section 508 Best Practices Webinar: Maps for All: Building Accessible Maps (September 26)
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FW: Tactile paving at closed crossings - Research study
From: oliviagq@... <oliviagq@...> Sent: Sunday, September 3, 2023 3:26 PM To: b.butterfly@... Subject: Tactile paving at closed crossings - Research study ? Dear Becky Frankenberger, ? We are a group of researchers from the University of Washington. We would like to invite you to participate in a study of Tactile Pavings aimed at enhancing pedestrian safety for individuals with vision disabilities. As a valued expert in orientation and mobility, your insights are crucial in helping us understand how Blind pedestrian students detect, read, and comprehend tactile paving, especially in high-stakes situations such as closed intersections. Your expertise will contribute to improving the accessibility of pedestrian environments. ? Study Objective: The purpose of this study is to gather valuable feedback on three experimental treatments of tactile markings that have been installed at closed intersections in the City of Seattle. These treatments are designed to prevent pedestrian crossings at specific intersections, but also provide feedback on the possibility of standardizing closed intersection tactile paving markers in order to enhance safety. We hope to gain a deeper understanding of your perspective on these treatments through a pictorial assessment and your valuable insights via a survey and free-form commentary. ? Your Involvement: As an orientation and mobility specialist, you will be asked to: - Remotely review pictorial representations of the three experimental tactile markings at closed intersections. - Provide survey responses based on your professional experience and insights. - Share your thoughts and recommendations for improvements. ? If this mode of participation is not accessible for you, we will also have an opportunity to visit these tactile markers in person in early October.? ? Compensation: For your time and expertise, you will receive a compensation of $30 for your participation in this study in the form of a Tango card (like a credit card). ? Confidentiality: Your participation and responses will be kept strictly confidential. Any data shared will be anonymized and aggregated for analysis purposes. ? Questions to Expect: The survey will explore topics such as: - Training techniques for white cane and guide dog users to identify different tactile markings. - Strategies for distinguishing between treatments meant for crossing and those to prevent crossing. - Instances of misidentification and methods for course correction. - Inputs for future standards or guidelines for tactile paving installations. ? How to Participate: If you are interested in contributing your insights and making a significant impact on pedestrian access, please respond to this email or contact us at uwtcat@... to confirm your participation. Upon confirmation, we will provide you with further details. ? ? Your expertise is invaluable, and your input will directly shape the future of pedestrian safety for individuals with vision disabilities. We look forward to your participation in this important study. ? Thank you for your dedication to creating a more inclusive and accessible environment for all members of our community. ? Sincerely, the TCAT team. -- Olivia Quesada?|?she/her TCAT Community Engagements and Partnerships Manager BDes Interaction Design,?BA Disability Studies
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Posting to share our Wisconsin White Cane Day Celebration shirts, in case anyone is?interested. We make these available for purchase to help fund the shirts we give away to students in Wisconsin (usually around 250).?
We are currently taking orders for this year’s White Cane Day shirt. As always, T-shirts for Wisconsin students with visual impairments are no cost. Shirts for others can be purchased for $20 using this link: . Orders are due by September 15.
If you are ordering for a large group in one area and need to have them shipped, please select one person who can be the distributor in your area. It will save on shipping costs and also save us time. If you are in the Milwaukee area, please arrange a pick-up.
Julie Hapeman, COMS, CVRT, CATIS
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? Oh, Kevin, you nailed it! ?We cannot ensure anyone’s safety, especially using the dictionary definition of safety as being “free from risk.”
30 or 40 years ago, many of the documents with standards and ethics In our profession had those words, that we are responsible for guaranteeing or ensuring safety. I worked to get those out, and was successful with replacing them with “providing for safety.”
But I was looking at the ACVREP website to show my colleague that those words were not in their standards, and was shocked to find that they are! ?That was about a year ago, I don’t know if it’s changed now, but we might look in all of AER’s and ACVREP’s documents to make sure we are not being held to a standard that is impossible to achieve. — Dona ————————— Dona Sauerburger, COMS www.sauerburger.org/Dona
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I’d be very cautious documenting that you/the team is “ensuring safety” – there is a ton of liability in those two words alone. I personally never say those two
words b/c trips, bumps, falls, and wipeouts occur all the time – especially in preschool! You are wanting to promote the child’s safety and that of others – no one can guarantee it – whether for an individual with sight or without. I’d caution you in saying
O&M will prevent injury.
Assessment drives instruction so yes, evaluate that kiddo and develop required accommodations or modifications as needed at this time. There are plenty of preschool
O&M scales out there (Oregon Project, Oregon Project Preschool Readiness Checklist, New Mexico, etc.) which will help identify a need for instruction and/or consultation. There are a few articles out there about liability – I have them at home somewhere but
you can use Google Scholar to search for them with key words of “orientation” and “mobility” and “liability” and you should get results – I used my AERBVI membership to access JVIB where most were published.
Kevin
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Kevin J. Hollinger
CATIS, COMS, NBCT-ENSVI, TVI?
Francis Howell School District
Vision Program
636-851-6143 voice
636-851-4133 fax
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Even though there is an assessment in process,? critical needs should be addressed immediately if there is a safety issue during the assessment
time to cover everyone's liability I would think- the schools and the O&M assessor.? If the child is unsafe in general due to the visual impairment, then modifications should be in place to insure his/her safety until official assessment recommendations are
made.??
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Hello all,
Do any of you have articles or a liability statement about whether a school is covered liability-wise if a young preschooler who is completely blind does not have O&M instruction and falls or gets hurt?? We are in the process of having the student assessed,
but there is a question also about the need for O&M for a preschooler.
Whitney
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Re: Cafeteria Dilemma - College Freshman
Hugs to you, Terrie! Your response is exactly the way many successful adults (and K-12 students) use when navigating a lunch room. Placing the arm around the tray and holding the tray close to the stomach (directly in front of the body) is perfect! Remember to keep the tray balanced so food/drinks do not slide. The arm acts as a bumper protecting the tray if anyone or anything is accidentally bumped. Since most college and work lunch areas have serve yourself fountain drinks (including water, tea, etc.), some adults prefer to fill two glasses 3/4ths of the way or to bring their own cup with a lid, typically a solid reusable cup and lid, not the fast food paper type cup and plastic lid. If getting a milk carton, placing the milk carton on its side also helps keep it from falling over.
Since this is a college situation (or work lunch area), some adults will talk with the servers and ask them to place their meal in a “to go container” and then they will place the to-go-container on a tray. The tray is still easier to carry and the user can also carry a drink, utensils or other items.
Since we tend to be creatures of habit and sit in the same area with the same people, I do recommend learning the cafeteria area during an off time when it is not crowded. This is often a great time to explore not only the layout, but the actual food and drink stations, where to return trays and trash (and how that system works), meet and talk to the servers, etc. Once the servers know how to assist, they are a great resource and will call your name as you approach, and tell you what is available. Include learning the layout and routine for paying for your meal. Typically, the drink station is set up the same every day, so if you know your preferred drink is the second nozzle, then you can be completely independent on getting your cup, ice and drink. If you sit with the same people, educate those peers on how to minimally assist, when needed. Example: When you are walking towards the table, they can say hello, alerting you to exactly where they are and they can say that there is an empty seat on their right or across the table from them. This is a great way to make new friends in college too - lots of social interactions in the college cafeteria!
Most college and work cafeterias have an online menu that can be checked daily before going to the cafeteria. Review the choices and know what you want and where it is located before heading over to the cafeteria.
If needed, practice how to stand in line while holding your tray.?
As an O&M, I also spend time with my K-12 students on how to initiate conversations with cafeteria workers, including gentle ways to guide the workers on how to assist. Since your college student is not independent yet in the cafeteria, this may also be an important skill to model and teach!
Be sure to sample different types of food and try out the various stations! Don’t get the same food each day just because it is easy!?
Happy Eats and hugs to all!
Diane
FYI: Did I mention how important it is to be totally comfortable and independent in the cafeteria when going for job interviews and when working? Peers will respect you even more for your independence!
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On Aug 31, 2023, at 10:56 AM, Terrie Terlau < terrieter@...> wrote:
Hello everyone, I am a blind 71-year-old who got two BA degrees, a Master’s degree, and a PH.D. This info is relevant only because it shows that I went through a lot of university cafeterias. I got my first Seeing Eye dog in January of my senior year in college. I had learned to carry a tray in my left hand when I used a cane. However, the first time I went to the cafeteria with my new dog was fairly disastrous. I tried to heel her and use my limited light perception to find a table. As I walked, her face went to the floor and picked up all sorts of crunchy things. I could not correct as I had to keep my tray balanced. I realized I had to do something else. Over the next few months, I figured out a way to carry a tray and work my dog. I will try to describe what I do. ? Of course, the tray is in my right arm. My right arm holds the tray on the side and my right hand comes around to the front of the tray and my hand wraps around the tray. I press the tray into my body so that my arm and chest help it stay balanced and take some of the weight. I also hold the tray totally in front of my body, ?not sticking out on the right at all. A dog? may not allow clearance for a few inches of tray sticking out to the right beyond my body. In this position, I can balance the left side of the tray with my left upper arm. Soa the tray is balanced on four sides, with my right and left upper arms, my chest, and my right lower arm and hand in the front. Nowadays I ask someone I’m with to put my drink on their tray or ask someone working there to carry liquid as I follow them to a table. However, back in the day, I often carried my own glass on the tray, grasping the front of the tray with my middle, ring, and little fingers and raising my thumb and index fingers to circle the glass or at least partly circle it. To do this, I always put my glass on the right side of the tray near the front edge. ? I think it is very reasonable for your student to gain more independence. The bag idea is a good one. If you go this route, I would suggest a cloth bag with a bottom insert, the kind of bag that supermarkets sell for shopping. There needs to be something solid for the food to sit on. It would help if your student used a plate with a lid. This way, the sides of the bag would not interact with the food on the plate. I have a set of four Tupperware plates with lids. I love them because they are freezer, microwave, and dishwasher safe. I can freeze meals in them, pop them into the microwave, and then put them on the top rack of the dishwasher. ? I hope this helps. Please let your student know ?as many options as you can think of for handling the cafeteria and encourage her to pick a way that gives her more independence. Also, let her know that other blind people have figured out ways to carry trays. With huge respect to all you O&Mers and hugs to those of you who like hugs, Terrie Terlau and Seeing Eye Dog Pauline ?
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Thank you Terrie.
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My plan is to have 3-4 options when we talk to her and the cafeteria.? We do have to work with their resources also. My main goal is to teach independence, as long as she is safe and effective. But I also want her eating!? So I am happy
somewhere in between!
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Thanks for all the ideas guys.
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So far my thoughts of options are:
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She walks in, someone gets her stuff and directs her to a table.
She walks in they give her food “to – go” and she finds her own table, or someone helps her find one
She walks to each station, asks what they have, they serve it up on plastic tray and at dessert that lady goes and gets her drink and helps her find a table.
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I have ideas of between these three options to modify, but these are just quick thoughts.
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Julie
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411 W. Front | Tyler, TX | 75702
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Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 10:23 AM
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Subject: Re: [OandM] Cafeteria Dilemma - College Freshman
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This is wonderful, Terrie!
Thank you for sharing your personal tips on reaching independence and success in a cafeteria setting. And congratulations on all your degrees.
I will gladly accept the hugs. (((HUGS))) to you as well.?
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Angela Tabb, COMS
Sensory Travel, LLC
Orientation & Mobility Services
开云体育 our community of people of all?ages with blindness/low vision
Let’s Go Explore & Experience Places!
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On Aug 31, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Terrie Terlau <terrieter@...> wrote:
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I am a blind 71-year-old who got two BA degrees, a Master’s degree, and a PH.D. This info is relevant only because it shows that I went through a lot of university cafeterias. I got my first Seeing Eye dog in January of my senior year in
college. I had learned to carry a tray in my left hand when I used a cane. However, the first time I went to the cafeteria with my new dog was fairly disastrous. I tried to heel her and use my limited light perception to find a table. As I walked, her face
went to the floor and picked up all sorts of crunchy things. I could not correct as I had to keep my tray balanced. I realized I had to do something else.
Over the next few months, I figured out a way to carry a tray and work my dog. I will try to describe what I do.
Of course, the tray is in my right arm. My right arm holds the tray on the side and my right hand comes around to the front of the tray and my hand wraps around the tray. I press the tray into my body so that my arm and chest help it stay
balanced and take some of the weight. I also hold the tray totally in front of my body, ?not sticking out on the right at all. A dog? may not allow clearance for a few inches of tray sticking out to the right beyond my body. In this position, I can balance
the left side of the tray with my left upper arm. Soa the tray is balanced on four sides, with my right and left upper arms, my chest, and my right lower arm and hand in the front. Nowadays I ask someone I’m with to put my drink on their tray or ask someone
working there to carry liquid as I follow them to a table. However, back in the day, I often carried my own glass on the tray, grasping the front of the tray with my middle, ring, and little fingers and raising my thumb and index fingers to circle the glass
or at least partly circle it. To do this, I always put my glass on the right side of the tray near the front edge.
I think it is very reasonable for your student to gain more independence. The bag idea is a good one. If you go this route, I would suggest a cloth bag with a bottom insert, the kind of bag that supermarkets sell for shopping. There needs
to be something solid for the food to sit on. It would help if your student used a plate with a lid. This way, the sides of the bag would not interact with the food on the plate. I have a set of four Tupperware plates with lids. I love them because they are
freezer, microwave, and dishwasher safe. I can freeze meals in them, pop them into the microwave, and then put them on the top rack of the dishwasher.
I hope this helps. Please let your student know ?as many options as you can think of for handling the cafeteria and encourage her to pick a way that gives her more independence. Also, let her know that other blind people have figured out
ways to carry trays.
With huge respect to all you O&Mers and hugs to those of you who like hugs,
Terrie Terlau and Seeing Eye Dog Pauline
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Re: Cafeteria Dilemma - College Freshman
This is wonderful, Terrie!
Thank you for sharing your personal tips on reaching independence and success in a cafeteria setting. And congratulations on all your degrees.
I will gladly accept the hugs. (((HUGS))) to you as well.?
Angela Tabb, COMS
Sensory Travel, LLC
Orientation & Mobility Services
开云体育 our community of people of all?ages with blindness/low vision
Let’s Go Explore & Experience Places!
Make it a Beautiful Day!
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On Aug 31, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Terrie Terlau < terrieter@...> wrote:
Hello everyone, I am a blind 71-year-old who got two BA degrees, a Master’s degree, and a PH.D. This info is relevant only because it shows that I went through a lot of university cafeterias. I got my first Seeing Eye dog in January of my senior year in college. I had learned to carry a tray in my left hand when I used a cane. However, the first time I went to the cafeteria with my new dog was fairly disastrous. I tried to heel her and use my limited light perception to find a table. As I walked, her face went to the floor and picked up all sorts of crunchy things. I could not correct as I had to keep my tray balanced. I realized I had to do something else. Over the next few months, I figured out a way to carry a tray and work my dog. I will try to describe what I do. ? Of course, the tray is in my right arm. My right arm holds the tray on the side and my right hand comes around to the front of the tray and my hand wraps around the tray. I press the tray into my body so that my arm and chest help it stay balanced and take some of the weight. I also hold the tray totally in front of my body, ?not sticking out on the right at all. A dog? may not allow clearance for a few inches of tray sticking out to the right beyond my body. In this position, I can balance the left side of the tray with my left upper arm. Soa the tray is balanced on four sides, with my right and left upper arms, my chest, and my right lower arm and hand in the front. Nowadays I ask someone I’m with to put my drink on their tray or ask someone working there to carry liquid as I follow them to a table. However, back in the day, I often carried my own glass on the tray, grasping the front of the tray with my middle, ring, and little fingers and raising my thumb and index fingers to circle the glass or at least partly circle it. To do this, I always put my glass on the right side of the tray near the front edge. ? I think it is very reasonable for your student to gain more independence. The bag idea is a good one. If you go this route, I would suggest a cloth bag with a bottom insert, the kind of bag that supermarkets sell for shopping. There needs to be something solid for the food to sit on. It would help if your student used a plate with a lid. This way, the sides of the bag would not interact with the food on the plate. I have a set of four Tupperware plates with lids. I love them because they are freezer, microwave, and dishwasher safe. I can freeze meals in them, pop them into the microwave, and then put them on the top rack of the dishwasher. ? I hope this helps. Please let your student know ?as many options as you can think of for handling the cafeteria and encourage her to pick a way that gives her more independence. Also, let her know that other blind people have figured out ways to carry trays. With huge respect to all you O&Mers and hugs to those of you who like hugs, Terrie Terlau and Seeing Eye Dog Pauline ?
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Re: Cafeteria Dilemma - College Freshman
Hello everyone, I am a blind 71-year-old who got two BA degrees, a Master’s degree, and a PH.D. This info is relevant only because it shows that I went through a lot of university cafeterias. I got my first Seeing Eye dog in January of my senior year in college. I had learned to carry a tray in my left hand when I used a cane. However, the first time I went to the cafeteria with my new dog was fairly disastrous. I tried to heel her and use my limited light perception to find a table. As I walked, her face went to the floor and picked up all sorts of crunchy things. I could not correct as I had to keep my tray balanced. I realized I had to do something else. Over the next few months, I figured out a way to carry a tray and work my dog. I will try to describe what I do. ? Of course, the tray is in my right arm. My right arm holds the tray on the side and my right hand comes around to the front of the tray and my hand wraps around the tray. I press the tray into my body so that my arm and chest help it stay balanced and take some of the weight. I also hold the tray totally in front of my body, ?not sticking out on the right at all. A dog? may not allow clearance for a few inches of tray sticking out to the right beyond my body. In this position, I can balance the left side of the tray with my left upper arm. Soa the tray is balanced on four sides, with my right and left upper arms, my chest, and my right lower arm and hand in the front. Nowadays I ask someone I’m with to put my drink on their tray or ask someone working there to carry liquid as I follow them to a table. However, back in the day, I often carried my own glass on the tray, grasping the front of the tray with my middle, ring, and little fingers and raising my thumb and index fingers to circle the glass or at least partly circle it. To do this, I always put my glass on the right side of the tray near the front edge. ? I think it is very reasonable for your student to gain more independence. The bag idea is a good one. If you go this route, I would suggest a cloth bag with a bottom insert, the kind of bag that supermarkets sell for shopping. There needs to be something solid for the food to sit on. It would help if your student used a plate with a lid. This way, the sides of the bag would not interact with the food on the plate. I have a set of four Tupperware plates with lids. I love them because they are freezer, microwave, and dishwasher safe. I can freeze meals in them, pop them into the microwave, and then put them on the top rack of the dishwasher. ? I hope this helps. Please let your student know ?as many options as you can think of for handling the cafeteria and encourage her to pick a way that gives her more independence. Also, let her know that other blind people have figured out ways to carry trays. With huge respect to all you O&Mers and hugs to those of you who like hugs, Terrie Terlau and Seeing Eye Dog Pauline ?
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惭辞谤苍颈苍’
You can buy the full
on their website. The individual booklets contain the full developmental scales across the domains assessed and the readiness grid is in the other materials that the kit also comes with.
A quick google search for it will likely find a copy. There are multiple Editions of the ORP so some of those on the internet may likely be the older versions.
I think investing in the ORP is wise! We typically use it for kids transitioning from First Steps (B-3) and then we write IEP goals based on a % of skill acquisition
over baseline with an update twice a year – the format of the ORP lends itself so well to this ongoing use! However, I recommend you always distribute a new copy so the parent/team members are not influenced by the prior score. We direct those completing it
to mark it with a “+” when mastery is demonstrated (across people and environments) or an “E” (for emerging) when the skill is not deemed mastered but intermittently present or based on situations/env/people and then a “0” for ‘no’ or not present. I think
the “E” is important because it helps parents and the team target those skills and to achieve some success. Note, the ORP states that its use is not specifically intended for kiddos with severe and/or multiple disabling conditions – but – for the past 20+
years this scale has helped me and many, many teams and families to gain a really solid picture of a child’s skills, aptitude and preferences through it’s use. Also note, if you have a child with a neurological impairment, the CVI Rating Scale or another tool
should absolutely be integrated into the FVA and LMA!
Kev
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CATIS, COMS, NBCT-ENSVI, TVI?
Francis Howell School District
Vision Program
636-851-6143 voice
636-851-4133 fax
  
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On Behalf Of Rosemary Gribbin
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2023 9:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [OandM] School Liability
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Hi Kevin
Where can i get a copy of the Oregon Project Pre school readiness project?
Rosemary gribbin
On August 31, 2023, at 9:13 AM, "HOLLINGER, KEVIN via " <kevin.hollinger@...> wrote:
I’d be very cautious documenting that you/the team is “ensuring safety” – there is a ton of liability in those two words alone. I personally
never say those two words b/c trips, bumps, falls, and wipeouts occur all the time – especially in preschool! You are wanting to promote the child’s safety and that of others – no one can guarantee it – whether for an individual with sight or without. I’d
caution you in saying O&M will prevent injury.
Assessment drives instruction so yes, evaluate that kiddo and develop required accommodations or modifications as needed at this time.
There are plenty of preschool O&M scales out there (Oregon Project, Oregon Project Preschool Readiness Checklist, New Mexico, etc.) which will help identify a need for instruction and/or consultation. There are a few articles out there about liability – I
have them at home somewhere but you can use Google Scholar to search for them with key words of “orientation” and “mobility” and “liability” and you should get results – I used my AERBVI membership to access JVIB where most were published.
Kevin
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Kevin J. Hollinger
CATIS, COMS, NBCT-ENSVI, TVI?
Francis Howell School District
Vision Program
636-851-6143 voice
636-851-4133 fax
?
Even though there is an assessment in process,? critical needs should be addressed immediately if there is a safety issue during the assessment
time to cover everyone's liability I would think- the schools and the O&M assessor.? If the child is unsafe in general due to the visual impairment, then modifications should be in place to insure his/her safety until official assessment recommendations are
made.??
CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open
attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
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Hello all,
Do any of you have articles or a liability statement about whether a school is covered liability-wise if a young preschooler who is completely blind does not have O&M instruction and falls or gets hurt?? We are in the process of having the student assessed,
but there is a question also about the need for O&M for a preschooler.
Whitney
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Hi Kevin
Where can i get a copy of the Oregon Project Pre school readiness project?
Rosemary gribbin
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On August 31, 2023, at 9:13 AM, "HOLLINGER, KEVIN via groups.io" <kevin.hollinger@...> wrote:
I’d be very cautious documenting that you/the team is “ensuring safety” – there is a ton of liability in those two words alone. I personally never say those two
words b/c trips, bumps, falls, and wipeouts occur all the time – especially in preschool! You are wanting to promote the child’s safety and that of others – no one can guarantee it – whether for an individual with sight or without. I’d caution you in saying
O&M will prevent injury.
Assessment drives instruction so yes, evaluate that kiddo and develop required accommodations or modifications as needed at this time. There are plenty of preschool
O&M scales out there (Oregon Project, Oregon Project Preschool Readiness Checklist, New Mexico, etc.) which will help identify a need for instruction and/or consultation. There are a few articles out there about liability – I have them at home somewhere but
you can use Google Scholar to search for them with key words of “orientation” and “mobility” and “liability” and you should get results – I used my AERBVI membership to access JVIB where most were published.
Kevin
?
Kevin J. Hollinger
CATIS, COMS, NBCT-ENSVI, TVI?
Francis Howell School District
Vision Program
636-851-6143 voice
636-851-4133 fax
?
Even though there is an assessment in process,? critical needs should be addressed immediately if there is a safety issue during the assessment
time to cover everyone's liability I would think- the schools and the O&M assessor.? If the child is unsafe in general due to the visual impairment, then modifications should be in place to insure his/her safety until official assessment recommendations are
made.??
CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open
attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.
?
Hello all,
Do any of you have articles or a liability statement about whether a school is covered liability-wise if a young preschooler who is completely blind does not have O&M instruction and falls or gets hurt?? We are in the process of having the student assessed,
but there is a question also about the need for O&M for a preschooler.
Whitney
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I’d be very cautious documenting that you/the team is “ensuring safety” – there is a ton of liability in those two words alone. I personally never say those two
words b/c trips, bumps, falls, and wipeouts occur all the time – especially in preschool! You are wanting to promote the child’s safety and that of others – no one can guarantee it – whether for an individual with sight or without. I’d caution you in saying
O&M will prevent injury.
Assessment drives instruction so yes, evaluate that kiddo and develop required accommodations or modifications as needed at this time. There are plenty of preschool
O&M scales out there (Oregon Project, Oregon Project Preschool Readiness Checklist, New Mexico, etc.) which will help identify a need for instruction and/or consultation. There are a few articles out there about liability – I have them at home somewhere but
you can use Google Scholar to search for them with key words of “orientation” and “mobility” and “liability” and you should get results – I used my AERBVI membership to access JVIB where most were published.
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Even though there is an assessment in process,? critical needs should be addressed immediately if there is a safety issue during the assessment
time to cover everyone's liability I would think- the schools and the O&M assessor.? If the child is unsafe in general due to the visual impairment, then modifications should be in place to insure his/her safety until official assessment recommendations are
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Hello all,
Do any of you have articles or a liability statement about whether a school is covered liability-wise if a young preschooler who is completely blind does not have O&M instruction and falls or gets hurt?? We are in the process of having the student assessed,
but there is a question also about the need for O&M for a preschooler.
Whitney
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Re: Cafeteria Dilemma - College Freshman
I am not an O&M but as a VRT and a person who is visually impaired, it was always my goal that people do as much for themselves as possible. Not only because it gives them the opportunity for increased choice and independence but also because as a side benefit it can offer increased opportunities. I have worked with blind people who think that it is okay to shovel food into their mouths with their hands for example regardless of what they are eating and if they make a mess “so what i am blind.” These are professionals working with newly blind people. What they did not know is that when they may need to look for work they may be invited to a lunch interview well that interview starts with how well can you navigate through the door confidently and eat and not just your skills. ?I bring this up because in college you practice life skills mostly outside of class.
What if this person wants to go into different places in their community they can either stand there and be dragged along for the ride or they can pick up their dogs harness handle and tell it to “find the counter” at least. And if they made it to college they can help brainstorm: messenger bag, backpack, cloth bag with big handles, small tray held in one arm while using dog and following person or having dog heal etc. they should contribute try a few ideas out to see which works and some might work better depending on what they are going to be eating. Amanda?
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She is hesitant. But I think she can be more independent than she is. I like the bag idea.? The cafeteria is laid out the same each day, but items are different.? For example the “Special” for the day is always the first section as she
walks in. Then there is pizza and across is the salad station, then the yogurt station, then the desserts.? She can ask the person serving what there is and ask for that specific item since no one serves themselves.
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Some people ask that it be put in a bag, like for take-out, or maybe she can bring a cloth bag to be filled.
Is she wanting to go get everything herself?? That would seem to be a challenge for a blind person, most people I know ask for assistance to get all the food and find an empty chair.
Hello!? I am an O&M instructor with a client in her first year in college.? Her main mode of travel is with a guide dog.? She is struggling in the cafeteria due to not being able to carry everything. When I was working in public
schools I had my students use hard plastic cafeteria trays with the indentions for the different pieces of food and a round indention for the cup.? Is there a different way?? Or should I introduce a hard plastic tray for her instead of carrying her plate,
salad bowl, silverware, and drink cup.? Right now she is not being independent. She stands there, they come to her, ask what she wants, gets it for her, and then walks her to her table. I am thinking I can have her do it all on her own (except the serving
-- no one serves themselves there) if she had a hard tray.? Thoughts?
Thanks,
Julie
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Re: Cafeteria Dilemma - College Freshman
She is hesitant. But I think she can be more independent than she is. I like the bag idea.? The cafeteria is laid out the same each day, but items are different.? For example the “Special” for the day is always the first section as she
walks in. Then there is pizza and across is the salad station, then the yogurt station, then the desserts.? She can ask the person serving what there is and ask for that specific item since no one serves themselves.
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Some people ask that it be put in a bag, like for take-out, or maybe she can bring a cloth bag to be filled.
Is she wanting to go get everything herself?? That would seem to be a challenge for a blind person, most people I know ask for assistance to get all the food and find an empty chair.
Hello!? I am an O&M instructor with a client in her first year in college.? Her main mode of travel is with a guide dog.? She is struggling in the cafeteria due to not being able to carry everything. When I was working in public
schools I had my students use hard plastic cafeteria trays with the indentions for the different pieces of food and a round indention for the cup.? Is there a different way?? Or should I introduce a hard plastic tray for her instead of carrying her plate,
salad bowl, silverware, and drink cup.? Right now she is not being independent. She stands there, they come to her, ask what she wants, gets it for her, and then walks her to her table. I am thinking I can have her do it all on her own (except the serving
-- no one serves themselves there) if she had a hard tray.? Thoughts?
Thanks,
Julie
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Re: Cafeteria Dilemma - College Freshman
Some people ask that it be put in a bag, like for take-out, or
maybe she can bring a cloth bag to be filled.
Is she wanting to go get everything herself?? That would seem to
be a challenge for a blind person, most people I know ask for
assistance to get all the food and find an empty chair.
Hello!? I am an O&M instructor with a client in her first
year in college.? Her main mode of travel is with a guide dog.?
She is struggling in the cafeteria due to not being able to
carry everything. When I was working in public schools I had my
students use hard plastic cafeteria trays with the indentions
for the different pieces of food and a round indention for the
cup.? Is there a different way?? Or should I introduce a hard
plastic tray for her instead of carrying her plate, salad bowl,
silverware, and drink cup.? Right now she is not being
independent. She stands there, they come to her, ask what she
wants, gets it for her, and then walks her to her table. I am
thinking I can have her do it all on her own (except the serving
-- no one serves themselves there) if she had a hard tray.?
Thoughts?
Thanks,
Julie
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-- Dona
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Dona Sauerburger, COMS
Certified Orientation and Mobility Specialist for the blind
Maryland
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Cafeteria Dilemma - College Freshman
Hello!? I am an O&M instructor with a client in her first year in college.? Her main mode of travel is with a guide dog.? She is struggling in the cafeteria due to not being able to carry everything. When I was working in public schools I had my students use hard plastic cafeteria trays with the indentions for the different pieces of food and a round indention for the cup.? Is there a different way?? Or should I introduce a hard plastic tray for her instead of carrying her plate, salad bowl, silverware, and drink cup.? Right now she is not being independent. She stands there, they come to her, ask what she wants, gets it for her, and then walks her to her table. I am thinking I can have her do it all on her own (except the serving -- no one serves themselves there) if she had a hard tray.? Thoughts?
Thanks,
Julie
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Even though there is an assessment in process,? critical needs should be addressed immediately if there is a safety issue during the assessment time to cover everyone's liability I would think- the schools and the O&M assessor.? If the child is unsafe in general
due to the visual impairment, then modifications should be in place to insure his/her safety until official assessment recommendations are made.??
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Hello all,
Do any of you have articles or a liability statement about whether a school is covered liability-wise if a young preschooler who is completely blind does not have O&M instruction and falls or gets hurt?? We are in the process of having the student assessed,
but there is a question also about the need for O&M for a preschooler.
Whitney
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Do any of you have articles or a liability statement about whether a school is covered liability-wise if a young preschooler who is completely blind does not have O&M instruction and falls or gets hurt?? We are in the process of having the student assessed, but there is a question also about the need for O&M for a preschooler.
Whitney
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Hello all,
Do any of you have articles or a liability statement about whether a school is covered liability-wise if a young preschooler who is completely blind does not have O&M instruction and falls or gets hurt?? We are in the process of having the student assessed, but there is a question also about the need for O&M for a preschooler.
Whitney
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Re: Emergency Preparedness
Hi Jen!? Yes, I was going to send this to you directly as I KNEW
that you're uniquely qualified as an expert in this topic, and
then decided to send to the listserv.
On 8/18/2023 1:46 PM, Jen wrote:
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Dona!
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I’ve
been asked after seeing their presentation at DBI in Ottawa
to help them improve their EM/EP programs. I’ll definitely
take a look at this!
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Jen
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All!
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We
hope this email finds you well. HKNC is excited to
announce a new webinar series called “Ready for
Anything: Elevate Your Emergency Preparedness Game.”
This series will launch in the month of September, which
is National Preparedness Month. The series will give
individuals who are DeafBlind and their families,
service providers, and community resource personnel the
tools and resources to prepare for natural disasters or
emergencies in their regions. Please see the attached
flyer for the weekly topics, which will be live every
Wednesday 2:00 pm-3:30 pm EST during the month of
September. To register, visit our website: Emergency
Preparedness Webinar Series – Helen Keller Services
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Questions?
Contact us at PLD@...
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Thanks,
and hope to see you there!
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Thanks Dona! ? I’ve been asked after seeing their presentation at DBI in Ottawa to help them improve their EM/EP programs. I’ll definitely take a look at this! ? Jen ?
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Date: August 18, 2023 at 9:30:04 AM EDT
Cc: "Cynthia L. Ingraham, EdD" <cingraham@...>
Subject: Emergency Preparedness
? Greetings All! ? We hope this email finds you well. HKNC is excited to announce a new webinar series called “Ready for Anything: Elevate Your Emergency Preparedness Game.” This series will launch in the month of September, which is National Preparedness Month. The series will give individuals who are DeafBlind and their families, service providers, and community resource personnel the tools and resources to prepare for natural disasters or emergencies in their regions. Please see the attached flyer for the weekly topics, which will be live every Wednesday 2:00 pm-3:30 pm EST during the month of September. To register, visit our website: Emergency Preparedness Webinar Series – Helen Keller Services ? Questions? Contact us at PLD@... ? Thanks, and hope to see you there! Cynthia ? ? Cynthia Ingraham, EdD EdD | East Central Representative
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HKS is committed to making documents accessible and usable to participants, the HKS team and stakeholders.??
We recognize that accessibility is fluid and users are diverse.
Therefore, even though the document may meet accessibility guidelines, there may be usability issues .
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