I'll apologize in advance for not having an answer to your question. I just wanted to say out loud: my up-close vision sucks, and the benefits of the EVF represent probably the top five reasons I've completely shifted to Z bodies.
The WYSIWYG ability to dial in exposure and white balance on the fly doesn't have much to do with my vision, but being able to work the menus and review photos in the EVF sure does. Also happens to provide a nice clear view of those things when shooting in bad weather with a rain cover on.
By preventing me from ever having to squint at the back of the camera (or flip glasses and/or readers off and on) it's no exaggeration to say this move has completely transformed my shooting experience. If you haven't tried a Z body yet, I'd urge you to consider it.
On Apr 20, 2023, at 11:56 AM, Jon <kd5sfa@...> wrote:
Semi off topic but does relate to the group and camera use.
I wear multi-focal contacts being I am very nearsighted. They work fairly well and keep me from having to wear readers in my truck at night to be able to read the dashboard of the truck. They also reduce the number of time I have to put the readers on when out and about where there is sufficient light. The joys of presbyopia and middle age.
Lately I have found I still need to put readers on when making adjustments to the camera or reviewing the images on the camera so I tend to be putting the readers on multiple times when in the field for mere seconds at a time. Being I also have a slight astigmatism that is just below what they can correct with contact lenses I have to deal with that. I had a thought the day before my semi annual optometrists visit concerning getting a pair of glasses to wear over my contacts usually when I am out shooting. The upper part of the lenses would correct the astigmatism only and the lower would add a +2.00 for up close work like reviewing images.
The doctor wasn’t sure if it would work and had to think a few minutes about the concept. We tried holding 2 glass disks with the proper astigmatism correction in front of my eyes with the contacts in while looking at an eye chart. It actually improved things quite a bit. The letters while recognizable without the additional correction improved by not being as fuzzy. Not perfect but very noticeably improved. We both learned something from this exercise. I find that to be a win.
I’ve been looking at lenses to place in an older set of frames and I am trying to decide between polycarbonate or glass. Glass having the better optical qualities is where I am leaning in addition to the better scratch resistance.
As a note, I do have a proper set of high index glasses for use when not wearing my contacts. I don’t like them for 2 reasons. The perspective changes like the difference between looking through a 50mm lens versus a 35mm lens. They also have the progressive bifocal which I totally hate.
I have also used OTC readers for years because they are cheap, but they scratch easily and that annoys me. I have not been able to find the half size readers that you can look over in quite awhile. I tend to want to try them on before purchasing. This is another reason I am going down this road.
I will note that the high index polycarbonate lenses seem to do well as far as acuity, just the more extreme refraction causing some differences than with contacts.
Does anyone here have any experience with glass versus polycarbonate in their glasses as far as quality?
I wear progressive glasses. I had some before getting cataract surgery last year but I am back in progressives but this time with something that helps with double vision.. I have no idea as to glass vs poly other than glass lenses being easier to break and a lot heavier. Oh, I have 2.5 magnification in my glasses. The right lens being a lot thicker than the left.?
Semi off topic but does relate to the group and camera use.
I wear multi-focal contacts being I am very nearsighted. They work fairly well and keep me from having to wear readers in my truck at night to be able to read the dashboard of the truck.? They also reduce the number of time I have to put the readers on when out and about where there is sufficient light.? The joys of presbyopia and middle age.
Lately I have found I still need to put readers on when making adjustments to the camera or reviewing the images on the camera so I tend to be putting the readers on multiple times when in the field for mere seconds at a time. Being I also have a slight astigmatism that is just below what they can correct with contact lenses I have to deal with that. I had a thought the day before my semi annual optometrists visit concerning getting a pair of glasses to wear over my contacts usually when I am out shooting. The upper part of the lenses would correct the astigmatism only and the lower would add a +2.00 for up close work like reviewing images.?
The doctor wasn’t sure if it would work and had to think a few minutes about the concept. We tried holding 2 glass disks with the proper astigmatism correction in front of my eyes with the contacts in while looking at an eye chart. It actually improved things quite a bit. The letters while recognizable without the additional correction improved by not being as fuzzy.? Not perfect but very noticeably improved. We both learned something from this exercise. I find that to be a win.
I’ve been looking at lenses to place in an older set of frames and I am trying to decide between polycarbonate or glass. Glass having the better optical qualities is where I am leaning in addition to the better scratch resistance.
As a note, I do have a proper set of high index glasses for use when not wearing my contacts. I don’t like them for 2 reasons. The perspective changes like the difference between looking through a 50mm lens versus a 35mm lens. They also have the progressive bifocal which I totally hate.
I have also used OTC readers for years because they are cheap, but they scratch easily and that annoys me. I have not been able to find the half size readers that you can look over in quite awhile. I tend to want to try them on before purchasing. This is another reason I am going down this road.
I will note that the high index polycarbonate lenses seem to do well as far as acuity, just the more extreme refraction causing some differences than with contacts.
Does anyone here have any experience with glass versus polycarbonate in their glasses as far as quality? ??
The 14-24 f/2.8 is one of my very favorite lenses to use. It’s incredibly sharp and the focal length is perfect for interior/exterior images. When I shoot real estate and architecture, it’s my obvious first choice.
On Apr 18, 2023, at 10:33 AM, Zane Healy <healyzh@...> wrote:
?Simply put, I’m loving the results from this lens. ?I had it out on the 29th, and have gotten 8 Coastal Defense Fort photos up on Flickr, and am loving the detail. ?As I’d mentioned a couple weeks ago, this was also my first time using the current 70-200mm as a walking about lens (since buying it last June I’d only used it for a couple reenactments). ?The most recent shot is from the 70-200mm, but the next 8 are from 14-24mm.
The level of detail, sharpness, and texture is just what I need, I’m actually a bit surprised to see this from a D800. ?I just wish I could get this out of the 24-70mm f/2.8G.
On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 09:33 Zane Healy <healyzh@...> wrote:
Simply put, I’m loving the results from this lens.? I had it out on the 29th, and have gotten 8 Coastal Defense Fort photos up on Flickr, and am loving the detail.? As I’d mentioned a couple weeks ago, this was also my first time using the current 70-200mm as a walking about lens (since buying it last June I’d only used it for a couple reenactments).? The most recent shot is from the 70-200mm, but the next 8 are from 14-24mm.
The level of detail, sharpness, and texture is just what I need, I’m actually a bit surprised to see this from a D800.? I just wish I could get this out of the 24-70mm f/2.8G.
Simply put, I’m loving the results from this lens. ?I had it out on the 29th, and have gotten 8 Coastal Defense Fort photos up on Flickr, and am loving the detail. ?As I’d mentioned a couple weeks ago, this was also my first time using the current 70-200mm as a walking about lens (since buying it last June I’d only used it for a couple reenactments). ?The most recent shot is from the 70-200mm, but the next 8 are from 14-24mm.
The level of detail, sharpness, and texture is just what I need, I’m actually a bit surprised to see this from a D800. ?I just wish I could get this out of the 24-70mm f/2.8G.
I remember when I set it up originally I wasn’t aware that the albums were viewable to others.? Maybe I did but forgot and thought it was the photostream that was what other could see.? Now I have a better?idea of how to set things up after digging into their help files such as they are. So many images to dig through to decide what to post. I guess it could be worse.
On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 14:11 Jon via <kd5sfa=[email protected]> wrote:
I recently logged back into Flickr for the first time in awhile. I see they revamped things.?
I need to refresh my site there and figure out a better way to do it as I had more of a jumble of images without a more concise?look. In the past I had a public view and I am thinking i need to set up a more focused set of albums that are displayable to those that venture to the site.
I have not been able to search for any guides or help yet as I am working and oncall through the weekend. I know Walt has a nice layout, but trying to emulate that without knowing how things look from the account side of things seems a little daunting at the moment.
Any tips would be appreciated.
I hope this weekend if work is quiet I can test out my focus rail and stacking images in Photoshop.
I recently logged back into Flickr for the first time in awhile. I see they revamped things.?
I need to refresh my site there and figure out a better way to do it as I had more of a jumble of images without a more concise?look. In the past I had a public view and I am thinking i need to set up a more focused set of albums that are displayable to those that venture to the site.
I have not been able to search for any guides or help yet as I am working and oncall through the weekend. I know Walt has a nice layout, but trying to emulate that without knowing how things look from the account side of things seems a little daunting at the moment.
Any tips would be appreciated.
I hope this weekend if work is quiet I can test out my focus rail and stacking images in Photoshop.
Jon
Re: Df and FTZ compatibility with pre-AI lenses - In answer to my own question - for Zane
In response to Zane’s comments about Novoflex adaptors, I have the one mentioned, to put Leica M mount lenses on to a Nikon Z7. ?Works very well, in fact, especially if you use focus peaking! ?I have an M mount Voigtlander 40mm f1.2 Nokton that I often use on the Z7. ?There’s no communication between the lens and body, of course! ?Everything’s manual, though it works well in shutter priority. -- Chris Gibbins
Truly inspirational, I’ve been meaning to give this a try for years, as I have a small collection of Minerals that really need this. ?My long term goal is to produce 3D pairs using this technique.
Just being shot with a macro lens does not make it a macro image. It all has to do with image magnification. Yes, it would benefit from stacking. Stacking can be done with any image at any distance.
On Tuesday, April 11, 2023, 2:09 PM, zigmonde1 via groups.io <zigmonde1@...> wrote:
Thanks Chris
Very well explained
As always this group explains things in a straight forward manor that always seems easier to understand than any other rescource out there, I have just been offered the SB-R1C1 macro speedlight commander kit for only ?260 GBP complete in unused condition so I am thinking about getting it as macro does interest me a lot.? This picture I took was liked by a few people but it was Zane who spotted the out of focus part at the right hand side of the flower, now every time I look at it the out of focus just jumps out, would focus stacking work for this type of subject? it was taken with the 105 vr micro lens so I suppose it could be classed as macro.? Also if you take say 5 images close together in the QC mode on the D850 would you get any benefit from focus stacking these images to see if combined they just improved the image? the reason I ask is that I think one of the images was in focus at the out of focus area on the image I have shown? -- Kind Regards
As always this group explains things in a straight forward manor that always seems easier to understand than any other rescource out there, I have just been offered the SB-R1C1 macro speedlight commander kit for only ?260 GBP complete in unused condition so I am thinking about getting it as macro does interest me a lot.? This picture I took was liked by a few people but it was Zane who spotted the out of focus part at the right hand side of the flower, now every time I look at it the out of focus just jumps out, would focus stacking work for this type of subject? it was taken with the 105 vr micro lens so I suppose it could be classed as macro.? Also if you take say 5 images close together in the QC mode on the D850 would you get any benefit from focus stacking these images to see if combined they just improved the image? the reason I ask is that I think one of the images was in focus at the out of focus area on the image I have shown? -- Kind Regards
Hi Roy,? Thankyou for your kind comment.? Focus stacking in the real world is a method of increasing depth of focus.? In macro photography, especially at high magnifications, the depth of focus is truly miniscule, so by taking a stack of images, each focussed on a slightly different part of the image (i.e from front to back), the software takes the sharp parts of each image and puts them all together to form a new image with all the parts in focus, something that cannot be achieved in any other way. Hope this helps, and best regards Chris __________
Very nice photo's, I understand what focus stacking does but what are the real world uses of this or when do you make the choice to use this? -- Kind Regards
From one of my test shots with the 50mm and the 36mm extension tube I can see the benefit of focus stacking depending on the subject. I can see macro becoming a rabbit hole that I am diving into. A benefit for me is that if I can’t get out and about, the yard has an endless supply of subjects to focus on so to speak.
While I plan on trying the focus stacking option in lightroom, has anyone had any success with it or should I look at other options?
Re: Df and FTZ compatibility with pre-AI lenses - Adapter choices - Zane
Since this project is still in the experimental stage, I'll stick with something a wee bit less expensive than Novoflex and its brethren. It's probably a good thing that I don't own any Leica lenses to tempt me.
It looks like that link is talking about a variety of options for adapters. ?Most of the adapters I’ve gotten for my D800 were garbage. ?On the other hand I’ve had good luck, and bad luck with adapters for the Leica.
?The best brands I’ve found are as follows:
Leica
Voigtlander
Rayqual
Novoflex
If you can find Rayqual or Novoflex adapters for what you want, I’m definitely inclined to recommend them.
Fotodiox adapters are about as low in the market as I’m willing to go. ?I have a couple, and they’re not bad, they just aren’t as nice as the Novoflex, or even the Rayqual. ?OTOH, Fotodiox makes adapters that no one else does, like my adapter to use my
D800 on my 4x5 LF cameras.
I see one Novoflex adapter I’d probably buy for the Nikon Z, as it would let me use my Leica M lenses. ?They have a Nikon F adapter for the Nikon Z, but I can’t imagine why anyone would spend that kind of money, instead of getting the FTZ adapter. ?I’d
have to do some thinking if I’d go with Novoflex or Fotodiox for M42 lenses. ?For Minolta, Olympus, and Pentax, I’d likely go Fotodiox, due to the cost of the Novoflex adapters.
Zane
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Re: Df and FTZ compatibility with pre-AI lenses - Zane
Thanks for the link to a very interesting chart. It also indicates that I may have found a use for my dust-collecting D60, which served us well in its day.
Time to keep a sharper eye out, as the yard sale season approaches in Massachusetts.