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Re: My new to me Neptune 16, whole 'nother thread!
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What part of the country/world are you located in?
John
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My new to me Neptune 16, whole 'nother thread!
Hi all, I just got a N16 for free off CL! You will be shocked to hear that it is going to need some work. I have already found some parts and info on the FB groups that will be very helpful, but so often information that has been posted is so hard to access that it is lost, and has to be constantly re-stated in the feed.?
That is why I am posting here on a google group, which has better long term access of info.?
I hope to post about the process of rebuilding the boat to give back a bit to the internet which has helped me so much on so many things like this!
Anton
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I also like the time saver of leaving the sail attached to the boom. ?So far, all of my sailing is at our lake 5 minutes away (Shawnigan Lake, BC) so I can just lay things in the cockpit. ? I tried it, rolling the sail around the boom and I found the right size of windsurfing sail bag (as an ex windsurfer, I have dozens of sails and bags). ?Here it is. This will also save my almost new mainsail from the wear and tear.
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Yes,? That is essentially how mine is set up.? I don't use "truckers" rubber bungees.? I use the round ones.? I initially hang the boom as you show, but then I wrap the mast with a couple of layers of closed-cell (= will not absorb rain water) and then put another wrap around both with the bungee.? It's quite?secure.? As previously?written...if in doubt, you could go with three.? I also have a layer of teflon coated sheet material on my mast crooks that make it easier to slide the mast back on the crooks to prevent wear on the spars.? Simple upgrade and quite helpful.
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I will be posting my quick and easy PVC cockpit support system and the measurements that I use to turn an inexpensive Harbor Freight tarp into a two piece cover that the PVC supports.? Rain sheds, animals can't get in and it has supported as much as 2 feet of snow two winters ago.? II found that a one peice, full length tarps is just too difficult and time consuming to handle.? This comes off of the boat in about five minutes and back on in less than 10 (with a bit of practice).? ?Stay tuned!?
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Just read Jay's comments and wanted to share the picture attached.? Not particularly proud of the picture (my boat ends up with stuff on top during the winter).? I use bungees also and it works fine.? Kind of a cheap set up, I realize, but it works.? I also trailer everywhere 200+ miles, highway speeds, never have a problem,
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-- Bill Chain G-16 Carlisle, PA
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Nice alternative Mark. ?Hmm, I wonder if one could take it a step further. ? There¡¯s a thread about lazy jacks on the Facebook forum. ?An evolution of lazy jacks are called ¡°stack packs¡± (see picture) Essentially a boom and sail bag that stays attached to the boom. ?Anyone who watched Malizia or the other boats in the Ocean Race leg 3 would have seen their stack pack bags. ?You drop the sail into it, then zip it closed. ?In our case the bag design would need to allow for removal of the boom and stowing in the footwell or cabin. ? I wasn¡¯t that enthusiastic about lazy jacks due to the extra rigging time, but the bag-onthe-boom idea is something I¡¯m going to google more and let percolate.
Gary
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I made a bag of heavy tarp material for the boom with mainsail attached. The mainsail can remain attached to the boom, with tack, clew, and reeflines?in place,?which makes setup and takedown easier. Insert it into the bag, and strap down to the center thwart?in the cockpit for trailering. The mast has supports attached at the rudder pintles, mast step, and forward of the bow on the trailer.
Thanks, I was planning on building a mast support there, but getting my boom out of the way would be nice too.? I might redesign to accomodate the boom.
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Well, you could, but why?? The boom is probably about eight pounds.? The "old salt" who sold me my boat a few years ago simply used bungee cords to secure the boom to the suspended/supported mast. I use some flexible closed cell foam strips to wrap the mast mast prior to securing it.? This does two things.? This creates a bit of space to keep the hardware on the boom from contacting the mast.? It also compresses a bit to ensure a very secure connection.? Two wraps with a good quality, short bungee (experiment with the length) does the trick.? I use two, but you can always add more.
He was a true trailer-sailor?and pulled his boat long distances to experience different lakes 3 to 4 hours from home and farther.? I've been doing the same all?along and never had a single problem.? If you are travelling any real distance, and don't pull over to check all of your tie-downs periodically, you should consider doing so.
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Thanks, I was planning on building a mast support there, but getting my boom out of the way would be nice too.? I might redesign to accomodate the boom.
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Yes, probably the forward support is best since the boom will fit between there and the mast step.? And it would be easy enough to fabricate a midpoint support at the mast step, say from a 2X6, that stands in the mast step to support the aft end of the boom (and middle of the mast).? I would probably do that myself (from wood) even if I just wanted to prototype it before going to a welding shop.
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Thanks, Gary,
I'm going to think about doing something similar.? Without access to welding skill or equipment, I may fabricate something from wood and bolt it to the side of the fore or aft mast support.? I've been tying my boom to the cockpit railing with bungee cords.? It works, but takes too much time.
Cheers
Halden
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Thanks!!!? I think this is a great idea.
Tom Haynes
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The mast and boom carrying provision was fabricated by the previous owner, who had access to a welding shop. ?You¡¯ll see in the picture that there¡¯s a removable support that fits in the mast step. It¡¯s held in by gravity, and the weight of the mast and boom. ?The bungies are fine for my 5 minute trip down to the boat ramp, but I want something a bit more secure for longer trips. ?  
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Re: Cabin window replacement
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Nice looking boat Gary!? Could you detail how the boom is carried?
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Re: Cabin window replacement
Windows Update:
Here¡¯s an update on my cabin window replacement.? Thanks for all the comments that helped me think this through!
I cut 1/8 inch clear acrylic pieces a little larger than the original window cutouts.? The original holes for mounting the trim were not in the right places for the new windows, so I drilled new holes.? I applied clear silicone adhesive meant for marine applications to the overlap region and used nylon screws to hold it in place during cure.? Not satisfied with the strength of the nylon and unsure of the adhesive¡¯s strength, I later replaced these with M3 stainless steel screws purchased from Tayda Electronics.? The fiberglass thickness varies around the perimeter, so I used a few different screw lengths.? I later applied additional adhesive sealant around the perimeter.? My latest plan is to simply apply white acrylic paint over the overlap region in lieu of new trim material.?
It feels much better inside the cabin now that I can see what¡¯s on the other side of the windows.
Cheers
Halden
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Hello fellow sailors,
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I must say I didn't know I was on this thread, but do vaguely?remember posting somewhere a few years ago.? I can also say that I'm not sure how to post without having received?the emails today, so thank you Gary, I'll reply with my congratulations also.? The 16 is a great little boat and sure to provide big fun!? I've had my Glouster 16 for 6 yrs and now that it is 70 degrees here in PA, I look forward to getting on the water.? I keep my 16 on the trailer in my garage and have grown accustomed to sailing almost anywhere within about 250 miles.? Favorite is a local state park (1400 acres) but have had the pleasure of sailing in the NY finger lakes?and as far south in VA beach - and almost everywhere in between.? I'm usually the smallest boat in the water in Saint Michaels?MD, but I know I'm enjoying the Chesapeake just as much for a fraction of the cost.? ?Good luck Gary and to everyone else-- enjoy!?
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thanks for the smile this afternoon, picture attached?
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Hi Gary and All,
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Congratulations on your new boat! My wife and I have sailed a Gloucester 16 for the past ten years. At the moment, I am trying to chase down a leak in the keel trunk area.
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