File /Victor HM-200/IMG_7260.jpeg uploaded
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The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the MicBuilders@groups.io group. /Victor HM-200/IMG_7260.jpeg By: G?ran Birgersson <goeran@...> Description: I’m new to the group and impressed by the knowledge and experience here! I have some questions about Primo EM23: I asked Primo about phantom 48V, and got two ‘answers’: which of the two suggested circuits is preferred? i.e. one or two capacitors? Then about the FET 2SK118 O1 - this one is no longer available, and the replacement, suggested by Primo, is only sold in quantities of 2,500 from Mouser: any suggestions of alternative FET or where the 2N5457 can be bought by piece? In general, should the electronics be close to the mic capsule or close to the recorder, i.e. inside the XLR, when (5 to) 10 meters in between? I do mainly nature sound recordings … /G?ran Birgersson G?teborg, Sweden
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Wasn't MicBuilders originally on Yahoo?
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I just signed up though this Groupsio platform but I think I used to be on this forum as I remember it as being on Yahoo or some other platform. Is that right? If not Yahoo another host, perhaps? Thanks George Kaye
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Jules' Ambi-Alice and the Rycote BBG windshield
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Hi everyone, does anyone know if the Ambi-Alice (GoPro mount version) will fit inside the Rycote "Baby Ball Gag" windshield? They make them to fit 20,21,22,and 25mm mic bodies. I think the GoPro mount diameter is 25mm? I can measure to make sure before I buy, but also want to make sure the basket will fit inside the windshield.
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New JLI Capsules
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I got a chance to play with these and they are really nice. THis one is Cardiod https://www.jlielectronics.com/microphone-capsules/jli-160a11uc680/ And this one Figure 8 https://www.jlielectronics.com/microphone-capsules/jli-1660nb-38/ I wired the Cardioid one as a "two wire" by connecting the Source to Ground and using the Drain lead as my connection point for PIP power. I'm guessing they both have the same FET as the TSB2590 as they work well with a 100K Ohm resistor in the Simple P48 configuration. I put two Cardioids back to back, one facing front and one back in a quickly 3D printed holder with the Figure 8 at a 90 degree angle to both. That makes a three capsule Double MS setup. I plan on testing this and getting some samples in the near future. They sound really good. Two of the Figure 8's will make a great Blumlien pair that can run into a small PIP recorder. Jules -- Best Regards, Jules Ryckebusch 214 399 0931 Linkedin
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Input protection for OPA1642 for Piezo use. Oh, and Humpback Whales
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I Just had a really cool adventure recording Humpbacks with my hydrophones. See this: https://youtu.be/XrURPtL9zuk One challenge was the failure of two of them post build. I also had a couple board failures after initial testing of the boards prior to attaching the Piezo cylinders. There were two modes of failure. Complete failure of the Opamp causing a higher than normal current draw. Second, it still worked but with a lot of noise. The light bulb went off as I realised that I was directly connecting the cylinder to the Piezo element. I connected my Oscope to the cylinder and tapped on it. I could easily generate 15-20 volt spikes that were visible on the scope. Reviewing the literature, I realized I wasn't including any input protection. Yes there are internal diodes for this in the opamp. I suspect they are fine for "normal use". I am updating the circuit as seen below: This includes a series resistor and two diodes to shunt anything to ground and the supply pins. Conveniently there is a .1uF cap across the supply rails of the opamp that will act as a low Z source for this too. I have my first boards back from PCBWay and will commence testing shortly. Love any advice or feedback here. -- Best Regards, Jules Ryckebusch 214 399 0931 Linkedin
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Reducing the sensitivity of electret capsules with built-in fet
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Hello, is there any way to reduce the sensitivity of an electret microphone capsule with a built-in fet transistor? Something like a -10dB or -20dB pad? Thank you. M.
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Vintage Victor HM-200 binaural headphone - How to open?
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I bought vintage binaural headphones from Victor last year. It's from 1976 and still works. If anyone is interested, I have placed the specs and a test recording in the Victor HM-200 folder. When I took the test recording, the headphone was quite heavy. The weight, including the batteries, is approx. 600 g. I looked strange but the ducks didn't care. :-) Does anyone know how to open the HM-200 headphones without breaking it? I haven't been able to find a way yet. I'm just curious about the capsule dimensions and what the circuitry looks like and whether more sensitive capsules would fit. Many thanks! Heinz
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Groups.io "reverification" is legit
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Hi folks, Groups.io is doing a "reverification" of some (just a few, I think) members as part of keeping spam at bay. It's legit, be careful as always but this particular thing is legit. Thanks, -Scott -- ---- Scott Helmke ---- scott@... ---- (734) 604-9340 ---- "I have ceased distinguishing between the religious and the secular, for everything is holy" - Joe Henry
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Microtech Gefell MV203 Circuit/Repair
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Hello, A while back I purchased a used MTG MV203 measurement mic to use as comparison/testing for any of my future projects. After researching the MTG documentation I built a rack-mounted power supply/preamp to go with the mic. Everything was working fine (PSU functioned nicely & super clean/healthy output from the mic). I moved the PSU into a new enclosure to make things more portable and started having issues with the mic. Sometimes I would get no output, sometimes very distorted, sometimes functioning perfectly. After thoroughly troubleshooting my PSU I found no issues with it at all, which led me down the harrowing road of cracking the mic body open and prodding around with my DMM. Here are pictures of the internals and my best shot at the schematic. Output was disconnected to verify the cable was not causing issues. Had to replace a 6k8 resistor that took flight when I was desoldering the adjacent mystery component. I used the component codes, DMM, and educated guesses to determine most of the components and I plan on measuring the unlabeled caps. I'm fairly confident the High Z section under the resin is two 10G resistors in series and a 0.2 pF cap (input impedance is specified at 20G and 0.2 pF). However, I am not sure what the black mystery components are. Intuition tells me they are resistors, but they must be on the order of >>10M because my DMM cannot read them. I will have to carefully remove them and employ something like this method to measure them on a separate board. Luckily I had also taken a look inside while it was working. I know from my first measurements that, when functioning, the output sits at around 65V DC offset. It now sits around 40V DC (sometimes as low as 24V) and I measure no signal regardless of sound source. Prime suspect is the 1uF tantalum cap as I understand they are prone to damage and considered somewhat unreliable. The dual diodes, MOSFET body diodes (not sure I understand why they are used here), and Both BJTs measure ok with the DMM diode mode. I'm posting this here mostly for general interest, but if anyone has suggestions on troubleshooting the circuit I would greatly appreciate any insight.
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1st order ambisonic mic utilizing both front and back LDC diaphragms
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Hello everyone, I have been bouncing an idea around in my head and wanted to throw it out to the collective wisdom of the group and see where it goes. I built Jules' ambisonic mic from his Instructable and it is a great mic. But I would like to design one that uses large diaphragm, externally polarized condenser capsules, and takes advantage of both front and back diaphragms. I'm thinking of a combination of the "multitrack microphone" idea, like Jules' LDC Alice mic, but with enough capsules for 3D first order ambisonic. I spoke a bit with Arienne about using her "Flat 47" capsules. Initially I was just thinking of 4 cardiod capsules in the tetrahedral array, but she suggested with dual diaphragm capsules, I wouldn't need four of them. I have read through the Springer ambisonic document but can't figure out how to arrange dual diaphragm capsules to get the correct alignment for ambisonic pick up. Any ideas?
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KM84 with electret capsule
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Hello, long time lurker here. Thanks for all valuable info in this group. I have an idea to build KM84 circuit with Primo EM200 capsule (theres inernal FET in this capsule). So I sketched basic schematic. I want to ask you if theres something to change or if theres mistake somewhere in schematic. I like the idea of transformer based electret mic, hope it is not totaly nonsens. Best regards Milan
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Stefano's measurements of the PUI5024
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Thanks for doing this Stefano. - /ss files/PUI AOM5024 Frequency response etc.pdf </g/MicBuilders/files/ss%20files/PUI%20AOM5024%20Frequency%20response%20etc.pdf> It confirms my previous both measurements and thoughts on both the simple P48 and the polarity. It also shows what a great little mic that capsule can make. I did try it in a PZM setup and the peak proved to be an issue. In open space it is acceptable. And most people have difficulty with "Ryckebusch" ;-) Cheers -- Best Regards, Jules Ryckebusch 214 399 0931 Linkedin <https://www.linkedin.com/in/jules-ryckebusch/>
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File /ss files/PUI AOM5024 Frequency response etc.pdf uploaded
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The following files and folders have been uploaded to the Files area of the MicBuilders@groups.io group. /ss files/PUI AOM5024 Frequency response etc.pdf By: Stefano Simonelli <stefanosimonelli6@...> Description: Some frequency response measurements of 5024 simpleP48 etc
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AOM5024 "Modded 3-Wire" Approach
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Hi all - I am looking at the message board file by Stefano Simonelli (/g/MicBuilders/files/ss%20files/SimpleP48%20PUI%205024L%20HD%20FULL.pdf) and it seems that the "Modded 3-Wire" approach offers a significantly flatter frequency response. I'm having a little trouble finding a simple guide to building the "modded 3-wire", though - and I'm wondering if anyone had a clear explanation or some other links to share? It seems like I have to tamper with the electret element in order to do this, so I would like to be as precise as possible. Thanks! C
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JFET inside the AOM-5024
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Hi all, in case anyone else was wondering what JFET is inside the capsule: It is the Panasonic DSK3J02 (marking "3U"). Best regards, Nils
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SimpleP48 -- Polarity
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I have drawn this out showing the basics of the mic preamp with the two 6.8K resistors. If you want to maintain the phase relationship of the incoming audio you actually want the "+" terminal of the capsule going to Pin3 of the XLR. The circuit will work connecting pin 2 or 3. [image: SimpleP48Explain.png] -- Best Regards, Jules Ryckebusch 214 399 0931 Linkedin <https://www.linkedin.com/in/jules-ryckebusch/>
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P48 Phase Testing with impulses
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I recorded a couple handclaps and snap sounds with the SimpleP48 wired with pin3 to the capsule "+" and this is the resulting waveform. -- Best Regards, Jules Ryckebusch 214 399 0931 Linkedin
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Photo FET topology.jpg updated
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The following photos have been updated in the Scott Helmke photo album of the MicBuilders@groups.io group. FET topology.jpg By: Scott Helmke <scott@...>
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Where to buy electronics parts in the EU
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Greetings from Cork, and happy xmas to all. I'm a complete noob and just getting started with some very basic (very very basic) builds. Can any members recommend online stores to buy electronic components - wire, jacks, solder, resistors, boards, capsules etc in the EU? I used to buy various bits from the UK, pre-brexit, but customs now makes it v expensive. thanks so much D
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Electronic sthethoscope
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#Signaltonoiseratioandsensitivity
#ratioandsensitivity
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Hi everyone, I am a cardiologist. For a fun activity, I am working on my own electronic sthethoscope design. Heart sounds are low frequency and low intense sounds. (About 20 to 1200 Hz). Are listened to by touching the skin surface, that makes them susceptible to motion artifacts. I am looking forward to the suggestions of the audio experts in this group on the following topics: Which mic capsule, amplifier circuit and ext. should I prefer? Is it better to make a diy circuit or are there commercial ones to handle my needs? I guess that mic sensitivity and frequency range is important, are there ways to electronically modify mic sensitivity? Which solutions can be made about motion artifacts? And what about noise cancelling? Thank you in advance?
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