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Re: PiP capsule hum


 

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Le 24/02/2025 à 23:09, Casey via groups.io a écrit?:

Thanks Chris and Jerry:

Jerry wrote:

It seems to indicate that the capsule body is not properly grounded.
In 3-wire connection, there is no need to shield teh capsule, as long as the body is connected to teh shield. Check your connections.
It's a two-wire capsule () -- AFAIK the ground terminal is connected to the capsule body in that capsule. I have continuity between capsule body and plug sleeve. It just seems like the connection between the cable and the capsule (maybe 5 or 6mm) where the wires are exposed is enough to admit hum?
Not in normal circumstances. Are you sure that the body in which you put the capsule is properly grounded?

Chris wrote:

It is not stereo, it is standard PC microphone wiring of a TRS jack, sleeve is shield + signal and power return, tip is signal, and ring provided power for a capsule with built-in FET.

If I use my separate stereo PiP mic, which is wired one capsule to tip and one to ring, both mics work in this interface (meaning, their input shows up in the mono output)... does that contradict anything that you said above? E.g. it seems that ring isn't just for power but is actually receiving a separate signal (which is mixed to mono before going to the computer).

Also, currently the mic is just wired signal-to-tip, shield-to-sleeve, so ring isn't connected to anything, and it works (with hum), implying that the bias isn't only on ring?

However, most of the information I could find about PC standard microphone connections indicated that both the resistor and the DC-blocking capacitor are typically in the audio interface, in which case I don't see why connecting tip and ring together at any point would not work.

I may have been unclear: connecting tip and ring does work, it just didn't eliminate any hum so it didn't solve the issue.

I am not familiar with"PiP," does it match that connection described above?

I admit being mystified at the myriad ways there seem to be for 1/8" jacks to be wired, so I don't know if it matches or not, but PiP is just "plug in power" referring to lower voltage supplies on (usually 1/8") mic inputs.

I see that there is another response which came in while I was typing which indicates that you did add better shielding using conductive tape.

Yeah that seems to solve it completely.

-c


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