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Re: AOM5024 "Modded 3-Wire" Approach


 

LOL. I wouldn't?call it "disagreeing". ;-) I'm still trying to figure out exactly?why I am seeing what?I am. Which is that Pin 3 goes negative with my P48 mics with?how I am wiring them. My OPA mics respond with a positive pressure spike into the diaphragm?causing?a positive increase in the voltage on Pin 2.?I am biasing the capsule with a Positive voltage?on the backplate of the capsule. When the diaphragm?moves towards?the backplate the distance goes down, increasing capacitance. charge remains?constant thus the magnitude of voltage across the?capacitance?goes down. Because the?backplate is constant "+" voltage the?net effect?is the?voltage on the diaphragm?goes up. I see this. My circuit is a non inverting?buffer to pin 2.? Now with the Electret capsule I suspect that the charge is negative compared to the biasing of my U87 and my OPA mics. I haven't?built a test setup yet to determine?that. When positive?pressure comes into the capsule, the?internal fet conducts more, causing the voltage on the "+" lead of the capsule to go negative. Which is why connecting to pin 3 seems to work.?

Jules

On Mon, Jan 1, 2024 at 6:50?PM Richard Lee <ricardo@...> wrote:
I'm also noticing about half of the documentation involves a Capacitor to Pin 2 with the "hot lead" to Pin 3, whereas the other half involves a Capacitor to Pin 3 with the hot lead to Pin 2.
cx_b, are you using the latest 28nov23 version of SimpleP48.pdf in my Files?

This should be consistent throughout ... and tallies with Henry Spragens & Rick Wilkinson and some others.? If you notice inconsistencies in that document please post where it occurs or email me ricardo@...

There's NO advantage in making the electrical side of a condensor mike go lower than your required bandwidth.? There are several ADVANTAGES of matching the LF response to what you want.? One is reduced 'blocking' which you've noticed ..? and also reduced subsonic noise.? In SimpleP48.pdf, I recommend values for a 'music' mike and also for a measurement mike.? BTW, blocking is apparent on more complex mikes too.

Goran, thanks for your detailed history of pin2 or 3 'hot'.? IIRC, microphones have always been XLR 2 hot.? I've not joined in this debate (though I sparked it off by disagreeing with Jules :) ) cos I can't check XLR mikes myself at the moment.? If I could I would check them against a Behringer ECM8000 circa 2007, and a couple of prototype Calrec stick mikes I did for the BBC circa 1980.? I've lost practically ALL my original stuff done this Millenium due to several HD crashes.

The BBC would have complained bitterly if we'd supplied mikes with wrong polarity.



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Best Regards,

Jules Ryckebusch

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