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Z Axis 1" problem


 

I have Mach 3 software with a CNC from RouterParts.? I use Vectric Aspire 10.? I can't figure out what my problem is.? Each time I zero the Z axis (manually) and then load a file, my bit offsets by 1".?? As an example if the bit is at a Z height of 1.800, with the file loaded, when I go to "Start Cycle" the bit raises another inch and proceeds to attempt to run the cycle 1" above my material.? If I then hit reset, close the file, re load the same file & re zero the Z axis (manually), and then start cycle again, the file runs correctly and the bit is OK.?? I have also had the problem where the bit lowers 1" from the 1.800 height and then proceeds to DIG into the wood project (I now know better and watch with my kill switch every time before this has a chance to happen).?? Any ideas what is causing this behavior?? Its very frustrating to have to re zero 2x for every file.? Thanks,? Rick Wize


 

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Do you have a 1" tool offset defined for that tool? If so, set it to 0. Look at the height column in Config->tooltable.

Les

On 29/11/2019 14:27, Richard Wize wrote:

I have Mach 3 software with a CNC from RouterParts.? I use Vectric Aspire 10.? I can't figure out what my problem is.? Each time I zero the Z axis (manually) and then load a file, my bit offsets by 1".?? As an example if the bit is at a Z height of 1.800, with the file loaded, when I go to "Start Cycle" the bit raises another inch and proceeds to attempt to run the cycle 1" above my material.? If I then hit reset, close the file, re load the same file & re zero the Z axis (manually), and then start cycle again, the file runs correctly and the bit is OK.?? I have also had the problem where the bit lowers 1" from the 1.800 height and then proceeds to DIG into the wood project (I now know better and watch with my kill switch every time before this has a chance to happen).?? Any ideas what is causing this behavior?? Its very frustrating to have to re zero 2x for every file.? Thanks,? Rick Wize



 

Thanks for the response.? I looked in my Config > Tooltable and it is completely "Empty"


 

Check the Mach3 tooltable, and make sure there are no tool lengths entered. The default Vectric post processors use a G53 Tool Length Offset.


 

?I helped another customer that had Aspire and the problem was with the setup info in Aspire. Can you post the first 10 lines of the aspire G code . That may give us the clue to what the setting problem is.
Dan


 

The tooltable has no tools entered and no inputs.


 

Does this help?? It is the Profile Cut rhat wants to go 1" lower than Z zero when I first run the program after setting Z zero;

( Profile Cutouts .25_ DC EM )
( File created: Friday November 29 2019 - 03:29 PM)
( for CNC Roter Parts Machines )
( Material Size )
( X= 19.000, Y= 7.000, Z= 0.750)
(.IMPORTANT: Before outputting any toolpaths you)
(should carefully check all part sizes and the material)
(setup to make sure they are appropriate for your)
(actual setup.You should also check and re-calculate all toolpaths)
(with safe and appropriate settings for your material, )
(CNC machine and tooling.)
(Terms of Use: This Project and artwork is provided)
(on the understanding that it will only be used with)
(Vectric software programs. You may use the designs)
(to carve parts for sale but the Files and/or Vectors,)
(Components or Toolpaths within them {or any)
(derivatives} may not be converted to other formats, sold to,)
(or shared with anyone else.This project is )
(Copyright 2019 - Vectric Ltd.)
(Toolpaths used in this file:)
(Profile Cutouts .25" DC EM)
(Tools used in this file: )
(2 = Down-Cut Bit 1/4"??????????????? 57-910)
G00G20G17G90G40G49G80
G70G91.1
M07
G00G43Z1.8000H2
S12000M03
(Toolpath: Profile Cutouts .25" DC EM Tool: Down-Cut Bit 1/4"??????????????? 57-910)
G94
X0.0000Y0.0000F90.0
G00X7.2500Y3.7952Z0.2000
G1Z0.0000F90.0
G1X7.2556Y3.7951Z0.0000
G1X7.2612Y3.7947Z-0.0001
G1X7.2670Y3.7941Z-0.0001
G1X7.2727Y3.7931Z-0.0001
G1X7.2786Y3.7919Z-0.0002


 

I thought it might be Aspire, but if I reset Z zero a 2nd time after changing the bit (after I've already done one Z zero and the program runs off by 1"), I then close the G Code and re load it and then the program runs fine,? therefore I'm thinking it has something to do in Mach 3?


 

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You have a line?G00G20G17G90G40G49G80 that turns off the tool length compensation in Mach 3. ?

Three lines later in your program you have?G00G43Z1.8000H2 which turns on the tool length compensation in Mach 3 for tool H2. ?Check the tool table comp values in Mach 3 and see if there is a value for tool number 2.

If you don’t want tool length compensation at all you can edit the program and remove that G43 code and see what you get.

As another thought you may want to check your tool?definitions in Aspire. ?I use Vcarve Pro and have found a couple of instances where I have?inadvertently added a Z-value offset when setting up the job.?



On Nov 29, 2019, at 12:35 PM, Richard Wize <rickbw@...> wrote:


I thought it might be Aspire, but if I reset Z zero a 2nd time after changing the bit (after I've already done one Z zero and the program runs off by 1"), I then close the G Code and re load it and then the program runs fine,? therefore I'm thinking it has something to do in Mach 3?


 

Thank you!


 

On Fri, Nov 29, 2019 at 12:31 PM, Richard Wize wrote:
G00G43Z1.8000H2
Delete the line of code? G00G43Z1.8000H2.
Dan


 

If you are using the standard screens, try clicking on the thin REF ALL HOME button as well
as the ZERO buttons. I saw some weird offset problems once till I did this.

Regards,
Les Grant.


On 29 Nov 2019 at 7:46, Richard Wize wrote:


Thanks for the response.? I looked in my Config > Tooltable and it is completely "Empty"


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I don't see a G90 after G91.1 so it might be in incremental mode