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There were suggestions in the past about upgrading to mach4. I thought mach3 was OK and why learn all new stuff?
Well the reason is that mach4 is so much better, it is well worth the learning even for an old fart like me.
It took me a day to get all the settings migrated to mach4 using ESS.
I have been using mach4 for two partial days now and have not had a single hiccup or misfeed which were becoming more common in mach3.
There are so many really cool features most of which I will never use but for accuracy stability and reliability I think mach3 can't come close to mach4.
I wish someone had forced me to change years ago, i would have a lot more hair not pulled out in frustration with mach3.
It is the intermittent undiagnosable behavior of mach 3 that was driving me nuts.
And a big surprise for those who like printed documentation (have satellite internet which makes youtubes pretty much unusable) if you click the help button you can open the help folder with PDFs (and well written ones at that) on every topic you can imagine. I hadn't looked for help files because they are so rare anymore. Brian told me about the help folder.
I was able to eliminate several of my customizations because mach4 does things so well that they are not needed.
As one example, the MDI is a window that you can open instead of the gcode window and run your MDI stuff and then switch to the program run mode. No need to remember to hit escape to get out of the MDI and even crash the program if you hit the wrong keys while in MDI.
Also you can set mach4 to pretty much ignore the keyboard. I am somewhat convinced that at least some of my problems with mach3 were caused by keyboard. The jogging is smooth and entirely predictable, no more broken cutters in setup.
I was having x axis creep and could never find the reason why. Nothing sticking no wiring issues grounds right ESS not USB motion control. It just dithered around enough to be a problem. I don't know if it is that mach4 is smoother and has better acceleration control that my servo motors like better. Who cares, it just works and I am not smiling as Brian was hoping, I have an ear to ear grin.
I think there is no risk in trying mach4. If it doesn't make you happy I bet they would give you a refund and I think the chance of not liking mach4 is about as low as it can be. I never say 0 but pretty darn (did I say darn?) close.
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
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Spencer,
It is great to hear you got it all sorted out. I'm still running M3 on an old XP machine and am happy with it, but you are tempting me to look into the upgrade.
Thayer
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On 4/1/21 12:14 AM, spencer@... wrote: There were suggestions in the past about upgrading to mach4. I thought mach3 was OK and why learn all new stuff?
Well the reason is that mach4 is so much better, it is well worth the learning even for an old fart like me.
It took me a day to get all the settings migrated to mach4 using ESS.
I have been using mach4 for two partial days now and have not had a single hiccup or misfeed which were becoming more common in mach3.
There are so many really cool features most of which I will never use but for accuracy stability and reliability I think mach3 can't come close to mach4.
I wish someone had forced me to change years ago, i would have a lot more hair not pulled out in frustration with mach3.
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I am being tempted also is there a special price discount to upgrade?
Jim
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On 1 Apr 2021, at 08:56, Thayer Syme <thayer@...> wrote:
?Spencer,
It is great to hear you got it all sorted out. I'm still running M3 on an old XP machine and am happy with it, but you are tempting me to look into the upgrade.
Thayer
On 4/1/21 12:14 AM, spencer@... wrote:
There were suggestions in the past about upgrading to mach4. I thought mach3 was OK and why learn all new stuff?
Well the reason is that mach4 is so much better, it is well worth the learning even for an old fart like me.
It took me a day to get all the settings migrated to mach4 using ESS.
I have been using mach4 for two partial days now and have not had a single hiccup or misfeed which were becoming more common in mach3.
There are so many really cool features most of which I will never use but for accuracy stability and reliability I think mach3 can't come close to mach4.
I wish someone had forced me to change years ago, i would have a lot more hair not pulled out in frustration with mach3.
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This might be the nudge I need to move over to Mach4. As a hobbyist?I only get so much time in the shop. Making my time there more efficient would be amazing!
Thank you!
I am being tempted also is there a special price discount to upgrade?
Jim
> On 1 Apr 2021, at 08:56, Thayer Syme <thayer@...> wrote:
>
> ?Spencer,
>
> It is great to hear you got it all sorted out. I'm still running M3 on an old XP machine and am happy with it, but you are tempting me to look into the upgrade.
>
> Thayer
>
>> On 4/1/21 12:14 AM, spencer@... wrote:
>> There were suggestions in the past about upgrading to mach4. I thought mach3 was OK and why learn all new stuff?
>>
>> Well the reason is that mach4 is so much better, it is well worth the learning even for an old fart like me.
>>
>> It took me a day to get all the settings migrated to mach4 using ESS.
>>
>> I have been using mach4 for two partial days now and have not had a single hiccup or misfeed which were becoming more common in mach3.
>>
>> There are so many really cool features most of which I will never use but for accuracy stability and reliability I think mach3 can't come close to mach4.
>>
>> I wish someone had forced me to change years ago, i would have a lot more hair not pulled out in frustration with mach3.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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Hi Guys,
I have been working with Spencer in the background and he made a
good point that the colors in the gray screens are a bit hard for
people to see. We have been working on a simpler screen for a new
section of the webpage that will be going up soon. I would like to
know what you guys think about this screen. It has a setup page
and a run page. if you need to do diagnostics and setup that is
not what this screen is for. You can also use the logging window
if your trying to see what is going on in the software.
I know it could look more artistic but it is what it is
______________________________
Brian Barker
Engineering / Devlopment
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Phone: 207(618)1449
Webpage:
On 4/1/2021 1:27 PM, Joe Andolina
wrote:
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This might be the nudge I need to move over to
Mach4. As a hobbyist?I only get so much time in the shop. Making
my time there more efficient would be amazing!
Thank you!
I
am being tempted also is there a special price discount to
upgrade?
Jim
> On 1 Apr 2021, at 08:56, Thayer Syme <thayer@...>
wrote:
>
> ?Spencer,
>
> It is great to hear you got it all sorted out. I'm still
running M3 on an old XP machine and am happy with it, but you
are tempting me to look into the upgrade.
>
> Thayer
>
>> On 4/1/21 12:14 AM, spencer@... wrote:
>> There were suggestions in the past about upgrading to
mach4. I thought mach3 was OK and why learn all new stuff?
>>
>> Well the reason is that mach4 is so much better, it
is well worth the learning even for an old fart like me.
>>
>> It took me a day to get all the settings migrated to
mach4 using ESS.
>>
>> I have been using mach4 for two partial days now and
have not had a single hiccup or misfeed which were becoming
more common in mach3.
>>
>> There are so many really cool features most of which
I will never use but for accuracy stability and reliability I
think mach3 can't come close to mach4.
>>
>> I wish someone had forced me to change years ago, i
would have a lot more hair not pulled out in frustration with
mach3.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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High contrast colour schemes are garish but essential for some of us old folks. Low contrast—shades of gray – look sophisticated but are mostly illegible. Why not make the colour scheme and font size user selectable options? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Brian Barker
Sent: April 2, 2021 9:26 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] mach4? Hi Guys, I have been working with Spencer in the background and he made a good point that the colors in the gray screens are a bit hard for people to see. We have been working on a simpler screen for a new section of the webpage that will be going up soon. I would like to know what you guys think about this screen. It has a setup page and a run page. if you need to do diagnostics and setup that is not what this screen is for. You can also use the logging window if your trying to see what is going on in the software. ? 
I know it could look more artistic but it is what it is ______________________________ ? Brian Barker Engineering / Devlopment ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions Livermore Falls, Maine (USA) Phone: 207(618)1449 Webpage: On 4/1/2021 1:27 PM, Joe Andolina wrote: This might be the nudge I need to move over to Mach4. As a hobbyist?I only get so much time in the shop. Making my time there more efficient would be amazing! ? I am being tempted also is there a special price discount to upgrade?
Jim
> On 1 Apr 2021, at 08:56, Thayer Syme <thayer@...> wrote:
>
> ?Spencer,
>
> It is great to hear you got it all sorted out. I'm still running M3 on an old XP machine and am happy with it, but you are tempting me to look into the upgrade.
>
> Thayer
>
>> On 4/1/21 12:14 AM, spencer@... wrote:
>> There were suggestions in the past about upgrading to mach4. I thought mach3 was OK and why learn all new stuff?
>>
>> Well the reason is that mach4 is so much better, it is well worth the learning even for an old fart like me.
>>
>> It took me a day to get all the settings migrated to mach4 using ESS.
>>
>> I have been using mach4 for two partial days now and have not had a single hiccup or misfeed which were becoming more common in mach3.
>>
>> There are so many really cool features most of which I will never use but for accuracy stability and reliability I think mach3 can't come close to mach4.
>>
>> I wish someone had forced me to change years ago, i would have a lot more hair not pulled out in frustration with mach3.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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I like the contrast. ? Sent from for Windows 10 ?
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From: Ken StraussSent: Friday, April 2, 2021 10:43 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [MachCNC] mach4 ? High contrast colour schemes are garish but essential for some of us old folks. Low contrast—shades of gray – look sophisticated but are mostly illegible. Why not make the colour scheme and font size user selectable options? ? ? Hi Guys, I have been working with Spencer in the background and he made a good point that the colors in the gray screens are a bit hard for people to see. We have been working on a simpler screen for a new section of the webpage that will be going up soon. I would like to know what you guys think about this screen. It has a setup page and a run page. if you need to do diagnostics and setup that is not what this screen is for. You can also use the logging window if your trying to see what is going on in the software. ? 
I know it could look more artistic but it is what it is ______________________________ ? Brian Barker Engineering / Devlopment ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions Livermore Falls, Maine (USA) Phone: 207(618)1449 Webpage: On 4/1/2021 1:27 PM, Joe Andolina wrote: This might be the nudge I need to move over to Mach4. As a hobbyist?I only get so much time in the shop. Making my time there more efficient would be amazing! ? I am being tempted also is there a special price discount to upgrade?
Jim
> On 1 Apr 2021, at 08:56, Thayer Syme <thayer@...> wrote:
>
> ?Spencer,
>
> It is great to hear you got it all sorted out. I'm still running M3 on an old XP machine and am happy with it, but you are tempting me to look into the upgrade.
>
> Thayer
>
>> On 4/1/21 12:14 AM, spencer@... wrote:
>> There were suggestions in the past about upgrading to mach4. I thought mach3 was OK and why learn all new stuff?
>>
>> Well the reason is that mach4 is so much better, it is well worth the learning even for an old fart like me.
>>
>> It took me a day to get all the settings migrated to mach4 using ESS.
>>
>> I have been using mach4 for two partial days now and have not had a single hiccup or misfeed which were becoming more common in mach3.
>>
>> There are so many really cool features most of which I will never use but for accuracy stability and reliability I think mach3 can't come close to mach4.
>>
>> I wish someone had forced me to change years ago, i would have a lot more hair not pulled out in frustration with mach3.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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At the end of the day it is in the screen designer so you can change the font and colors to anything you like. I am just trying to make something that works better for the older guys. BTW I feel like I am catching up to you guys fast!?
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On Apr 2, 2021, at 12:20 PM, Dave Reichert <reichert.dave@...> wrote:
? I like the contrast. ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? High contrast colour schemes are garish but essential for some of us old folks. Low contrast—shades of gray – look sophisticated but are mostly illegible. Why not make the colour scheme and font size user selectable options? ? ? Hi Guys, I have been working with Spencer in the background and he made a good point that the colors in the gray screens are a bit hard for people to see. We have been working on a simpler screen for a new section of the webpage that will be going up soon. I would like to know what you guys think about this screen. It has a setup page and a run page. if you need to do diagnostics and setup that is not what this screen is for. You can also use the logging window if your trying to see what is going on in the software. ?
<779F1CC9AD5E4F4AB874EF6C99314B71.png> I know it could look more artistic but it is what it is ______________________________ ? Brian Barker Engineering / Devlopment ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions Livermore Falls, Maine (USA) Phone: 207(618)1449 Webpage: On 4/1/2021 1:27 PM, Joe Andolina wrote: This might be the nudge I need to move over to Mach4. As a hobbyist?I only get so much time in the shop. Making my time there more efficient would be amazing! ? I am being tempted also is there a special price discount to upgrade?
Jim
> On 1 Apr 2021, at 08:56, Thayer Syme <thayer@...> wrote:
>
> ?Spencer,
>
> It is great to hear you got it all sorted out. I'm still running M3 on an old XP machine and am happy with it, but you are tempting me to look into the upgrade.
>
> Thayer
>
>> On 4/1/21 12:14 AM, spencer@... wrote:
>> There were suggestions in the past about upgrading to mach4. I thought mach3 was OK and why learn all new stuff?
>>
>> Well the reason is that mach4 is so much better, it is well worth the learning even for an old fart like me.
>>
>> It took me a day to get all the settings migrated to mach4 using ESS.
>>
>> I have been using mach4 for two partial days now and have not had a single hiccup or misfeed which were becoming more common in mach3.
>>
>> There are so many really cool features most of which I will never use but for accuracy stability and reliability I think mach3 can't come close to mach4.
>>
>> I wish someone had forced me to change years ago, i would have a lot more hair not pulled out in frustration with mach3.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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i like to think of myself as a special needs individual. when i
was young i probably gave no thought to seeing stuff. i could see
from literally 2 inches to infinity. and i could see at night. now
i have lights and magnifiers and 5 different pair of expensive
glasses and still can't see.
how old are you? might never hear from me again i am going to
restore my computer to the last century to see if the fan stops
screaming.
On 4/2/2021 11:07 AM, Brian Barker
wrote:
At the end of the day it is in the screen designer so you can
change the font and colors to anything you like. I am just trying
to make something that works better for the older guys. BTW I feel
like I am catching up to you guys fast!?
?
I like the contrast.
?
Sent from for Windows 10
?
?
High contrast colour
schemes are garish but essential for some of us old
folks. Low contrast—shades of gray – look sophisticated
but are mostly illegible. Why not make the colour scheme
and font size user selectable options?
?
?
Hi Guys,
I have been working with Spencer in
the background and he made a good point that the colors
in the gray screens are a bit hard for people to see. We
have been working on a simpler screen for a new section
of the webpage that will be going up soon. I would like
to know what you guys think about this screen. It has a
setup page and a run page. if you need to do diagnostics
and setup that is not what this screen is for. You can
also use the logging window if your trying to see what
is going on in the software.
?
<779F1CC9AD5E4F4AB874EF6C99314B71.png>
I know it could look more artistic but
it is what it is
______________________________
?
Brian Barker
Engineering / Devlopment
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Phone: 207(618)1449
Webpage:
On 4/1/2021 1:27
PM, Joe Andolina wrote:
This might be
the nudge I need to move over to Mach4. As a
hobbyist?I only get so much time in the shop. Making
my time there more efficient would be amazing!
?
I am being tempted also is there a
special price discount to upgrade?
Jim
> On 1 Apr 2021, at 08:56, Thayer Syme <thayer@...>
wrote:
>
> ?Spencer,
>
> It is great to hear you got it all sorted
out. I'm still running M3 on an old XP machine and
am happy with it, but you are tempting me to look
into the upgrade.
>
> Thayer
>
>> On 4/1/21 12:14 AM, spencer@...
wrote:
>> There were suggestions in the past about
upgrading to mach4. I thought mach3 was OK and why
learn all new stuff?
>>
>> Well the reason is that mach4 is so much
better, it is well worth the learning even for an
old fart like me.
>>
>> It took me a day to get all the settings
migrated to mach4 using ESS.
>>
>> I have been using mach4 for two partial
days now and have not had a single hiccup or
misfeed which were becoming more common in mach3.
>>
>> There are so many really cool features
most of which I will never use but for accuracy
stability and reliability I think mach3 can't come
close to mach4.
>>
>> I wish someone had forced me to change
years ago, i would have a lot more hair not pulled
out in frustration with mach3.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
|
I would love to upgrade to Mach4 but the combined cost of a new controller (to replace the printer port one for a USB or network one) and the software license, makes it a huge jump, especially for hobbyists. Mach3 ? Is given away free and the printer port controllers
are sub ?30. Any suggestions?
Get
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i like to think of myself as a special needs individual. when i was young i probably gave no thought to seeing stuff. i could see from literally 2 inches to infinity. and i could see at night. now i have lights and magnifiers and 5 different pair of expensive
glasses and still can't see.
how old are you? might never hear from me again i am going to restore my computer to the last century to see if the fan stops screaming.
On 4/2/2021 11:07 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
At the end of the day it is in the screen designer so you can change the font and colors to anything you like. I am just trying to make something that works better for the older guys. BTW I feel like I am catching up to you guys fast!?
?
I like the contrast.
?
Sent from for Windows 10
?
?
High contrast colour schemes are garish but essential for some of us old folks. Low contrast—shades of gray – look sophisticated but are mostly illegible. Why not make the colour scheme and font size user selectable
options?
?
?
Hi Guys,
I have been working with Spencer in the background and he made a good point that the colors in the gray screens are a bit hard for people to see. We have been working on a simpler screen for a new section of the webpage that will be going
up soon. I would like to know what you guys think about this screen. It has a setup page and a run page. if you need to do diagnostics and setup that is not what this screen is for. You can also use the logging window if your trying to see what is going on
in the software.
?
<779F1CC9AD5E4F4AB874EF6C99314B71.png>
I know it could look more artistic but it is what it is
______________________________
?
Brian Barker
Engineering / Devlopment
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Phone: 207(618)1449
Webpage:
On 4/1/2021 1:27 PM, Joe Andolina wrote:
This might be the nudge I need to move over to Mach4. As a hobbyist?I only get so much time in the shop. Making my time there more efficient would be amazing!
?
I am being tempted also is there a special price discount to upgrade?
Jim
> On 1 Apr 2021, at 08:56, Thayer Syme <thayer@...> wrote:
>
> ?Spencer,
>
> It is great to hear you got it all sorted out. I'm still running M3 on an old XP machine and am happy with it, but you are tempting me to look into the upgrade.
>
> Thayer
>
>> On 4/1/21 12:14 AM,
spencer@... wrote:
>> There were suggestions in the past about upgrading to mach4. I thought mach3 was OK and why learn all new stuff?
>>
>> Well the reason is that mach4 is so much better, it is well worth the learning even for an old fart like me.
>>
>> It took me a day to get all the settings migrated to mach4 using ESS.
>>
>> I have been using mach4 for two partial days now and have not had a single hiccup or misfeed which were becoming more common in mach3.
>>
>> There are so many really cool features most of which I will never use but for accuracy stability and reliability I think mach3 can't come close to mach4.
>>
>> I wish someone had forced me to change years ago, i would have a lot more hair not pulled out in frustration with mach3.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
|
The other alternative is LinuxCNC which does still run with printer ports or with MESA boards that like the ESS use Ethernet to parallel port. The 7i92H is what I'm using and is cheaper than the ESS.? I did transfer over and also try my USB Smooth Stepper since my PC is set up as dual booth between WIN-XP and LinuxCNC.? All I do is move the parallel port cable onto the parallel port on the back of the PC.? Both systems work. ? The down side of LinuxCNC is there is tons of documentation but it's like learning a language by reading the dictionary.? The advantage of MACH3/4 is it's single source and the support is excellent!? ? I don't know if MACH4 has the wizards like MACH3.? LinuxCNC doesn't have them.? You run separate programs that generate the G Code.? In many ways it's still very command line oriented.?? ? For me it finally came down to price. ?PC was surplus at $75. ?LinuxCNC is free.? MACH4 costs.? MESA 7i92H about half the price of the ESS.? What's been even more fun is I copied the HAL and INI files from the PC version over to a LinuxCNC installed Pi4 and used the Ethernet 7i92H to run the mill. ? I'm not moving over to LinuxCNC on my CNC router.? Happy with MACH3 and the USB Smooth Stepper. ?Does everything I need there. ? So I play in both worlds. John ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Stephen Gould
Sent: April-02-21 3:53 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] mach4? I would love to upgrade to Mach4 but the combined cost of a new controller (to replace the printer port one for a USB or network one) and the software license, makes it a huge jump, especially for hobbyists. Mach3 ? Is given away free and the printer port controllers are sub ?30. Any suggestions?
i like to think of myself as a special needs individual. when i was young i probably gave no thought to seeing stuff. i could see from literally 2 inches to infinity. and i could see at night. now i have lights and magnifiers and 5 different pair of expensive glasses and still can't see. how old are you? might never hear from me again i am going to restore my computer to the last century to see if the fan stops screaming. On 4/2/2021 11:07 AM, Brian Barker wrote: At the end of the day it is in the screen designer so you can change the font and colors to anything you like. I am just trying to make something that works better for the older guys. BTW I feel like I am catching up to you guys fast!? ? I like the contrast. ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? High contrast colour schemes are garish but essential for some of us old folks. Low contrast—shades of gray – look sophisticated but are mostly illegible. Why not make the colour scheme and font size user selectable options? ? ? Hi Guys, I have been working with Spencer in the background and he made a good point that the colors in the gray screens are a bit hard for people to see. We have been working on a simpler screen for a new section of the webpage that will be going up soon. I would like to know what you guys think about this screen. It has a setup page and a run page. if you need to do diagnostics and setup that is not what this screen is for. You can also use the logging window if your trying to see what is going on in the software. ? <779F1CC9AD5E4F4AB874EF6C99314B71.png> I know it could look more artistic but it is what it is ______________________________ ? Brian Barker Engineering / Devlopment ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions Livermore Falls, Maine (USA) Phone: 207(618)1449 Webpage: On 4/1/2021 1:27 PM, Joe Andolina wrote: This might be the nudge I need to move over to Mach4. As a hobbyist?I only get so much time in the shop. Making my time there more efficient would be amazing! ? I am being tempted also is there a special price discount to upgrade?
Jim
> On 1 Apr 2021, at 08:56, Thayer Syme <thayer@...> wrote:
>
> ?Spencer,
>
> It is great to hear you got it all sorted out. I'm still running M3 on an old XP machine and am happy with it, but you are tempting me to look into the upgrade.
>
> Thayer
>
>> On 4/1/21 12:14 AM, spencer@... wrote:
>> There were suggestions in the past about upgrading to mach4. I thought mach3 was OK and why learn all new stuff?
>>
>> Well the reason is that mach4 is so much better, it is well worth the learning even for an old fart like me.
>>
>> It took me a day to get all the settings migrated to mach4 using ESS.
>>
>> I have been using mach4 for two partial days now and have not had a single hiccup or misfeed which were becoming more common in mach3.
>>
>> There are so many really cool features most of which I will never use but for accuracy stability and reliability I think mach3 can't come close to mach4.
>>
>> I wish someone had forced me to change years ago, i would have a lot more hair not pulled out in frustration with mach3.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309
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maybe you are young enough that wasted time does not matter as
much as it does to us "senior citizens"
if i had gotten mach4 years ago i would probably have saved
enough in broken cutters to pay for it. same true for ESS.
since i run a small business anything that saves time and money
is welcome.
i resisted mach4 for a while because i thought it would be a lot
to learn. it definitely was not trivial but a dedicated two days
should do it. the documentation is very good but there are a few
obscure things that might take a while to figure out.
On 4/2/2021 3:52 PM, Stephen Gould
wrote:
I would love to upgrade to Mach4 but the combined cost of a
new controller (to replace the printer port one for a USB or
network one) and the software license, makes it a huge jump,
especially for hobbyists. Mach3 ? Is given away free and the
printer port controllers are sub ?30. Any suggestions?
Get
i like to think of myself as a special needs individual. when
i was young i probably gave no thought to seeing stuff. i
could see from literally 2 inches to infinity. and i could see
at night. now i have lights and magnifiers and 5 different
pair of expensive glasses and still can't see.
how old are you? might never hear from me again i am going to
restore my computer to the last century to see if the fan
stops screaming.
On 4/2/2021 11:07 AM, Brian
Barker wrote:
At the end of the day it is in the
screen designer so you can change the font and colors to
anything you like. I am just trying to make something that
works better for the older guys. BTW I feel like I am catching
up to you guys fast!?
?
I like the contrast.
?
Sent from for Windows 10
?
?
High contrast
colour schemes are garish but essential for some of
us old folks. Low contrast—shades of gray – look
sophisticated but are mostly illegible. Why not make
the colour scheme and font size user selectable
options?
?
?
Hi Guys,
I have been working with Spencer
in the background and he made a good point that the
colors in the gray screens are a bit hard for people
to see. We have been working on a simpler screen for
a new section of the webpage that will be going up
soon. I would like to know what you guys think about
this screen. It has a setup page and a run page. if
you need to do diagnostics and setup that is not
what this screen is for. You can also use the
logging window if your trying to see what is going
on in the software.
?
<779F1CC9AD5E4F4AB874EF6C99314B71.png>
I know it could look more artistic
but it is what it is
______________________________
?
Brian Barker
Engineering / Devlopment
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Phone: 207(618)1449
Webpage:
On 4/1/2021
1:27 PM, Joe Andolina wrote:
This might
be the nudge I need to move over to Mach4. As a
hobbyist?I only get so much time in the shop.
Making my time there more efficient would be
amazing!
?
I am being tempted also is
there a special price discount to upgrade?
Jim
> On 1 Apr 2021, at 08:56, Thayer Syme <thayer@...>
wrote:
>
> ?Spencer,
>
> It is great to hear you got it all sorted
out. I'm still running M3 on an old XP machine
and am happy with it, but you are tempting me
to look into the upgrade.
>
> Thayer
>
>> On 4/1/21 12:14 AM,
spencer@... wrote:
>> There were suggestions in the past
about upgrading to mach4. I thought mach3 was
OK and why learn all new stuff?
>>
>> Well the reason is that mach4 is so
much better, it is well worth the learning
even for an old fart like me.
>>
>> It took me a day to get all the
settings migrated to mach4 using ESS.
>>
>> I have been using mach4 for two
partial days now and have not had a single
hiccup or misfeed which were becoming more
common in mach3.
>>
>> There are so many really cool
features most of which I will never use but
for accuracy stability and reliability I think
mach3 can't come close to mach4.
>>
>> I wish someone had forced me to
change years ago, i would have a lot more hair
not pulled out in frustration with mach3.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
|
Mach3 is free? That’s news to me.?
I get that it is some money but at the end of the day I have way more in cutting tools than I have in the software. This is not a cheap hobby. But you can make some cool stuff!?
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On Apr 2, 2021, at 7:19 PM, Stephen Gould <stephen_gould@...> wrote:
?
I would love to upgrade to Mach4 but the combined cost of a new controller (to replace the printer port one for a USB or network one) and the software license, makes it a huge jump, especially for hobbyists. Mach3 ? Is given away free and the printer port controllers
are sub ?30. Any suggestions?
Get
i like to think of myself as a special needs individual. when i was young i probably gave no thought to seeing stuff. i could see from literally 2 inches to infinity. and i could see at night. now i have lights and magnifiers and 5 different pair of expensive
glasses and still can't see.
how old are you? might never hear from me again i am going to restore my computer to the last century to see if the fan stops screaming.
On 4/2/2021 11:07 AM, Brian Barker wrote:
At the end of the day it is in the screen designer so you can change the font and colors to anything you like. I am just trying to make something that works better for the older guys. BTW I feel like I am catching up to you guys fast!?
?
I like the contrast.
?
Sent from for Windows 10
?
?
High contrast colour schemes are garish but essential for some of us old folks. Low contrast—shades of gray – look sophisticated but are mostly illegible. Why not make the colour scheme and font size user selectable
options?
?
?
Hi Guys,
I have been working with Spencer in the background and he made a good point that the colors in the gray screens are a bit hard for people to see. We have been working on a simpler screen for a new section of the webpage that will be going
up soon. I would like to know what you guys think about this screen. It has a setup page and a run page. if you need to do diagnostics and setup that is not what this screen is for. You can also use the logging window if your trying to see what is going on
in the software.
?
<779F1CC9AD5E4F4AB874EF6C99314B71.png>
I know it could look more artistic but it is what it is
______________________________
?
Brian Barker
Engineering / Devlopment
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Phone: 207(618)1449
Webpage:
On 4/1/2021 1:27 PM, Joe Andolina wrote:
This might be the nudge I need to move over to Mach4. As a hobbyist?I only get so much time in the shop. Making my time there more efficient would be amazing!
?
I am being tempted also is there a special price discount to upgrade?
Jim
> On 1 Apr 2021, at 08:56, Thayer Syme <thayer@...> wrote:
>
> ?Spencer,
>
> It is great to hear you got it all sorted out. I'm still running M3 on an old XP machine and am happy with it, but you are tempting me to look into the upgrade.
>
> Thayer
>
>> On 4/1/21 12:14 AM,
spencer@... wrote:
>> There were suggestions in the past about upgrading to mach4. I thought mach3 was OK and why learn all new stuff?
>>
>> Well the reason is that mach4 is so much better, it is well worth the learning even for an old fart like me.
>>
>> It took me a day to get all the settings migrated to mach4 using ESS.
>>
>> I have been using mach4 for two partial days now and have not had a single hiccup or misfeed which were becoming more common in mach3.
>>
>> There are so many really cool features most of which I will never use but for accuracy stability and reliability I think mach3 can't come close to mach4.
>>
>> I wish someone had forced me to change years ago, i would have a lot more hair not pulled out in frustration with mach3.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
|
On 4/2/2021 7:28 PM, John Dammeyer wrote: ..... I don't know if MACH4 has the wizards like MACH3.LinuxCNC doesn't have them.You run separate programs that generate the G Code.In many ways it's still very command line oriented.
There is a set of wizards for Mach4. They are a standalone package but can directly transfer the Gcode to Mach4. They do all the things the Mach3 wizards do, and are a more integrated package. They include a job file so you can generate slightly different versions of the same job. You could use the mill wizards with linuxcnc, running them on a windows PC and carrying the gcode to linux on a usb stick. ron ginger .... John
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Those are pretty cool.
John
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ron Ginger
Sent: April-02-21 5:50 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] mach4
On 4/2/2021 7:28 PM, John Dammeyer wrote:
.....
I don't know if MACH4 has the wizards like MACH3.LinuxCNC doesn't have
them.You run separate programs that generate the G Code.In many ways
it's still very command line oriented.
There is a set of wizards for Mach4. They are a standalone package but
can directly transfer the Gcode to Mach4. They do all the things the
Mach3 wizards do, and are a more integrated package. They include a job
file so you can generate slightly different versions of the same job.
You could use the mill wizards with linuxcnc, running them on a windows
PC and carrying the gcode to linux on a usb stick.
ron ginger
....
John
|
I? bought a small BoB from China that looks something like this.?
It came with a mini CD and a copy of MACH3. ? I have my own licensed copy so don't care.? Wouldn't use it since it's not ethical but lots of people do have the attitude that if it's a hobby and they don't earn money from it why should they pay? ? I had that choice with the mill. Pay $340 for a MACH4 and ESS combo or $435 Cdn plus $40 shipping maybe?? Or pay $80 for the MESA 7i92, plug into PMDX-126 and run free LinuxCNC.? ? From what I've seen MACH4 is a great bargain if you want to stay with Windows.? I am fighting WIN-10 constantly for software that used to run on WIN-7 and with each WIN-10 upgrade stops and requires 'fixing'.? Or I can pay thousands to update some of the software that is only a year old so it may run? better on WIN-10. ? To me WIN-10 is like WIN-VISTA.? Crap. ? John ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Barker
Sent: April-02-21 4:52 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] mach4? Mach3 is free? That’s news to me.? I get that it is some money but at the end of the day I have way more in cutting tools than I have in the software. This is not a cheap hobby. But you can make some cool stuff!? ? I would love to upgrade to Mach4 but the combined cost of a new controller (to replace the printer port one for a USB or network one) and the software license, makes it a huge jump, especially for hobbyists. Mach3 ? Is given away free and the printer port controllers are sub ?30. Any suggestions?
i like to think of myself as a special needs individual. when i was young i probably gave no thought to seeing stuff. i could see from literally 2 inches to infinity. and i could see at night. now i have lights and magnifiers and 5 different pair of expensive glasses and still can't see. how old are you? might never hear from me again i am going to restore my computer to the last century to see if the fan stops screaming. On 4/2/2021 11:07 AM, Brian Barker wrote: At the end of the day it is in the screen designer so you can change the font and colors to anything you like. I am just trying to make something that works better for the older guys. BTW I feel like I am catching up to you guys fast!? ? I like the contrast. ? Sent from for Windows 10 ? ? High contrast colour schemes are garish but essential for some of us old folks. Low contrast—shades of gray – look sophisticated but are mostly illegible. Why not make the colour scheme and font size user selectable options? ? ? Hi Guys, I have been working with Spencer in the background and he made a good point that the colors in the gray screens are a bit hard for people to see. We have been working on a simpler screen for a new section of the webpage that will be going up soon. I would like to know what you guys think about this screen. It has a setup page and a run page. if you need to do diagnostics and setup that is not what this screen is for. You can also use the logging window if your trying to see what is going on in the software. ? <779F1CC9AD5E4F4AB874EF6C99314B71.png> I know it could look more artistic but it is what it is ______________________________ ? Brian Barker Engineering / Devlopment ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions Livermore Falls, Maine (USA) Phone: 207(618)1449 Webpage: On 4/1/2021 1:27 PM, Joe Andolina wrote: This might be the nudge I need to move over to Mach4. As a hobbyist?I only get so much time in the shop. Making my time there more efficient would be amazing! ? I am being tempted also is there a special price discount to upgrade?
Jim
> On 1 Apr 2021, at 08:56, Thayer Syme <thayer@...> wrote:
>
> ?Spencer,
>
> It is great to hear you got it all sorted out. I'm still running M3 on an old XP machine and am happy with it, but you are tempting me to look into the upgrade.
>
> Thayer
>
>> On 4/1/21 12:14 AM, spencer@... wrote:
>> There were suggestions in the past about upgrading to mach4. I thought mach3 was OK and why learn all new stuff?
>>
>> Well the reason is that mach4 is so much better, it is well worth the learning even for an old fart like me.
>>
>> It took me a day to get all the settings migrated to mach4 using ESS.
>>
>> I have been using mach4 for two partial days now and have not had a single hiccup or misfeed which were becoming more common in mach3.
>>
>> There are so many really cool features most of which I will never use but for accuracy stability and reliability I think mach3 can't come close to mach4.
>>
>> I wish someone had forced me to change years ago, i would have a lot more hair not pulled out in frustration with mach3.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
-- Best regards, Spencer Chase 67550 Bell Springs Rd. Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only. Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only. Spencer@... (425) 791-0309
|
To me WIN-10 is like WIN-VISTA.? Crap.
I agree !!
WIN-10 does not let me see the three NAS units. Whatever I try.
Jos
|
Do you think you could make those fonts any smaller?
On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 at 15:58, Brian Barker < brianb@...> wrote:
Hi Guys,
I have been working with Spencer in the background and he made a
good point that the colors in the gray screens are a bit hard for
people to see. We have been working on a simpler screen for a new
section of the webpage that will be going up soon. I would like to
know what you guys think about this screen. It has a setup page
and a run page. if you need to do diagnostics and setup that is
not what this screen is for. You can also use the logging window
if your trying to see what is going on in the software.
I know it could look more artistic but it is what it is
______________________________
Brian Barker
Engineering / Devlopment
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Phone: 207(618)1449
Webpage:
On 4/1/2021 1:27 PM, Joe Andolina
wrote:
This might be the nudge I need to move over to
Mach4. As a hobbyist?I only get so much time in the shop. Making
my time there more efficient would be amazing!
Thank you!
I
am being tempted also is there a special price discount to
upgrade?
Jim
> On 1 Apr 2021, at 08:56, Thayer Syme <thayer@...>
wrote:
>
> ?Spencer,
>
> It is great to hear you got it all sorted out. I'm still
running M3 on an old XP machine and am happy with it, but you
are tempting me to look into the upgrade.
>
> Thayer
>
>> On 4/1/21 12:14 AM, spencer@... wrote:
>> There were suggestions in the past about upgrading to
mach4. I thought mach3 was OK and why learn all new stuff?
>>
>> Well the reason is that mach4 is so much better, it
is well worth the learning even for an old fart like me.
>>
>> It took me a day to get all the settings migrated to
mach4 using ESS.
>>
>> I have been using mach4 for two partial days now and
have not had a single hiccup or misfeed which were becoming
more common in mach3.
>>
>> There are so many really cool features most of which
I will never use but for accuracy stability and reliability I
think mach3 can't come close to mach4.
>>
>> I wish someone had forced me to change years ago, i
would have a lot more hair not pulled out in frustration with
mach3.
>>
>
>
>
>
>
|
Jos, Hopefully know the way to find the missing computers:? \\computer name.? For example, if you have a NAS named NAS1 you would in Windows explorer, or other file managers, type \\NAS1. This short cut trick has saved me a lot of frustration over the years. Bertho ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Jos Raven Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 04:30 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [MachCNC] mach4 ? To me WIN-10 is like WIN-VISTA.? Crap.
I agree !!
WIN-10 does not let me see the three NAS units. Whatever I try.
Jos
|
It also helps to put a NAS in
\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts (and sometimes, but rarely)
lmhosts
Another thing that's come up is that the CIFS/SMB1.0 protocol has
been disabled or not installed by default.
There's a couple ways to fix this:
1: is to check the NAS to see if it even supports SMB levels >=
2.0 and do so.
2: is to go into the "Turn on/off Windows features" and check the
SMB 1.0/CIFS file sharing -- and turn it on.
I'd guess your problem is unsupported/disabled SMB protocol
compatibility.
?-Ben
On 4/3/21 8:31 AM, Bertho wrote:
Jos,
Hopefully know the way to find the missing
computers:? \\computer
name.? For example, if you have a NAS named NAS1 you would in
Windows explorer, or other file managers, type \\NAS1.
This short cut trick has saved me a lot of
frustration over the years.
Bertho
?
?
To me WIN-10 is
like WIN-VISTA.? Crap.
I agree !!
WIN-10 does not let me see the three NAS units. Whatever I
try.
Jos
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