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converting to servo


 

I need to convert the x axis on my big router from stepper to servo
I have on hand some of the first rev Gecko 320 drives and nice
Wagner{aka Baldor] servos. The encoders have 8 leads. Won't I need a
differential to TTL "translator? The encoders are Renco 800 ppr
Also, these motors have a 24v normally on brake, do I have to
dissasemble them? I was thinking of a second set of switches NC
and wired in series with 24v ?
Lastly, if I bench tune won't I have to retune under load?

thanks
Carl


 

--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., "carlcnc" <carlcnc@y...> wrote:
I need to convert the x axis on my big router from stepper to servo
I have on hand some of the first rev Gecko 320 drives and nice
Wagner{aka Baldor] servos. The encoders have 8 leads. Won't I need
a
differential to TTL "translator? The encoders are Renco 800 ppr

You can just use one set of signals and disregard the differential
outputs. It doesn't matter which set but they need to be the same.
Differential encoders have two leads that respond to each pulse, one
goes from low to high and the other goes from high to low at the same
time. You should be able to get specs on those motors. I don't know
what your gearing is to the leadscrew but with a 800 ppr encoder
(3200 in quadrature) you may get into pulse count issues. If your
leadscrews/gearing adds X 5 then you are already at 16,000 pulses per
inch so a rapid of 120IPM requires 32,000 pps. MACH2 will do that
but not on all computers.


Also, these motors have a 24v normally on brake, do I have to
dissasemble them?
DON'T disassemble the motors. You may very well ruin the motor.

I was thinking of a second set of switches NC
and wired in series with 24v ?
If you have a contactor on the DC side of things with a spare set of
contacts you could wire the brakes to that. What I am talking about
is a contactor (big relay) that pulls in and latches on when you hit
the manual Start button and turns off under any condition where the
machine needs to stop quickly (limits, e-stop, safety switches,
etc). The brakes are made to be active on power failure which is the
best way.

Lastly, if I bench tune won't I have to retune under load?
Well, maybe. Tim Goldstein (I think) has worked out a way to
simulate a load on the bench to set the dampening that gets around
having to retune on the machine. Check his website about tuning
Gecko's

thanks
Carl


John Craddock
 

You also can get made-up differential receiver /transmitters from Rutex. See . Differential transmission can save a lot of headaches.
HTH
Regards
John C

-----Original Message-----
From: caudlet [mailto:thom@...]
Sent: Tuesday, 29 July 2003 9:16 AM
To: mach1mach2cnc@...
Subject: [mach1mach2cnc] Re: converting to servo


--- In mach1mach2cnc@..., "carlcnc" <carlcnc@y...> wrote:
I need to convert the x axis on my big router from stepper to servo
I have on hand some of the first rev Gecko 320 drives and nice
Wagner{aka Baldor] servos. The encoders have 8 leads. Won't I need
a
differential to TTL "translator? The encoders are Renco 800 ppr

You can just use one set of signals and disregard the differential
outputs. It doesn't matter which set but they need to be the same.
Differential encoders have two leads that respond to each pulse, one
goes from low to high and the other goes from high to low at the same
time. You should be able to get specs on those motors. I don't know
what your gearing is to the leadscrew but with a 800 ppr encoder
(3200 in quadrature) you may get into pulse count issues. If your
leadscrews/gearing adds X 5 then you are already at 16,000 pulses per
inch so a rapid of 120IPM requires 32,000 pps. MACH2 will do that
but not on all computers.


Also, these motors have a 24v normally on brake, do I have to
dissasemble them?
DON'T disassemble the motors. You may very well ruin the motor.

I was thinking of a second set of switches NC
and wired in series with 24v ?
If you have a contactor on the DC side of things with a spare set of
contacts you could wire the brakes to that. What I am talking about
is a contactor (big relay) that pulls in and latches on when you hit
the manual Start button and turns off under any condition where the
machine needs to stop quickly (limits, e-stop, safety switches,
etc). The brakes are made to be active on power failure which is the
best way.

Lastly, if I bench tune won't I have to retune under load?
Well, maybe. Tim Goldstein (I think) has worked out a way to
simulate a load on the bench to set the dampening that gets around
having to retune on the machine. Check his website about tuning
Gecko's

thanks
Carl


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