Re: NEW Steel 5axis CNC 3040 machine
Thanks for reply. The fustrating issue is the motion,control box is literally a black box. Unlabeled, no part number. To replace it is a major, the drives are all servo/encoder F/B and TCPIP cable connector.
If I have to then I will but thats about Plan X
Regards
Graham
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Re: NEW Steel 5axis CNC 3040 machine
Sorry, The Openbuilds controller is a 4-Axis Blackbox controller.
And it is only 4-Axis
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 06:19:42 PM EDT, Bear Boy via groups.io <bearboy53154@...> wrote:
Why don't you look at the Openbuilds controller?
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 03:54:20 PM EDT, Graham <gknox@...> wrote:
Hello,
I am now the owner of this 5 axis mill from?Chinacnczone Store. I was initially going to get it with MACH3, the shop persuaded me to purchase it with Easycnc as a alternative controller software. This has been a retrograde purchase and I am looking to change to Mach3 which I have used for years. The issue is that I cannot get any technical, configuration info on this controller.?
Has anyone beeen here? The existing I/O box is a genuine B
"Black Box" it is black, works, no manufacturers or Part number identification.?
In fairness it does work. But I wish to add control relays and have no info as how to, or configure the logic/PLC type control.
Has anyone been here before??
Regards
Graham
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Re: NEW Steel 5axis CNC 3040 machine
Why don't you look at the Openbuilds controller?
On Tuesday, October 10, 2023 at 03:54:20 PM EDT, Graham <gknox@...> wrote:
Hello,
I am now the owner of this 5 axis mill from?Chinacnczone Store. I was initially going to get it with MACH3, the shop persuaded me to purchase it with Easycnc as a alternative controller software. This has been a retrograde purchase and I am looking to change to Mach3 which I have used for years. The issue is that I cannot get any technical, configuration info on this controller.?
Has anyone beeen here? The existing I/O box is a genuine B
"Black Box" it is black, works, no manufacturers or Part number identification.?
In fairness it does work. But I wish to add control relays and have no info as how to, or configure the logic/PLC type control.
Has anyone been here before??
Regards
Graham
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NEW Steel 5axis CNC 3040 machine
Hello,
I am now the owner of this 5 axis mill from?Chinacnczone Store. I was initially going to get it with MACH3, the shop persuaded me to purchase it with Easycnc as a alternative controller software. This has been a retrograde purchase and I am looking to change to Mach3 which I have used for years. The issue is that I cannot get any technical, configuration info on this controller.?
Has anyone beeen here? The existing I/O box is a genuine B
"Black Box" it is black, works, no manufacturers or Part number identification.?
In fairness it does work. But I wish to add control relays and have no info as how to, or configure the logic/PLC type control.
Has anyone been here before??
Regards
Graham
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Re: Lathe G-code question, issue similar to threading.
couldn't you string a couple of G33's together?
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Re: Is anybody using EtherCAT?
Hi Brian,
it's mostly the Vital EC01 board that I'm interested in, but it would be nice to have a chat with somebody who's actually used the system before committing.
However, there just seems to be little information around about people who've used EtherCAT on a reasonable sized machine, let alone via Mach4.
Moray
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Re: Is anybody using EtherCAT?
Not using it but these guys should be able to help you with the mach4 cfg file:
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Re: Is anybody using EtherCAT?
Hi,
We have been running it here for 5 years :) In the past 2 years
we have been doing capacitance height sensing for fiber laser and
that has been working very well!
The PC's that will not effect the timing are a bit of a pain.
another good option is to look at the Ethercat board from Vital
systems :
Thanks
Brian
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On 5/30/2023 2:57 PM, moray via
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After seeing a LinuxCNC video on EtherCAT last year, it intrigued
me enough to purchase a set of EtherCAT closed loop steppers, and
a couple Beckhoff modules to do some testing, as I like the idea
of simpler wiring.
However after going through three different setups (RPi 4, older
mini-ITX mobo out my mill, and an Odroid H3+), all it resulted in
was realising LinuxCNC has various issues, and a flaw in the
EtherCAT stack whereby the first drive wouldn't initialise unless
you started the master before plugging in the Cat cable.
The EtherCAT drives have since been sat on my testing bench while
I weigh up options.
Now I've seen the This Old Tony vid where he installs the
Automation Technology/IntervalZero/Kingstar setup, but they only
sell that as a complete turnkey system, so by the time it gets
shipped over the pond, it works out quite expensive. I would have
been interested if they were to do this as a software only option,
but that doesn't appear to be an option.
The other option I'm aware of is the Vital EC01, however I can't
seem to find anybody who's actually used that system.
So is there anybody who has an EtherCAT setup running Mach?
If so, what setup are you using, and would you recommend it?
At the moment, I've got a router planned, which I'd be willing to
spend the extra on EtherCAT servos for, but I want a reliable test
setup before committing to that.
Thanks
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Is anybody using EtherCAT?
After seeing a LinuxCNC video on EtherCAT last year, it intrigued me enough to purchase a set of EtherCAT closed loop steppers, and a couple Beckhoff modules to do some testing, as I like the idea of simpler wiring.
However after going through three different setups (RPi 4, older mini-ITX mobo out my mill, and an Odroid H3+), all it resulted in was realising LinuxCNC has various issues, and a flaw in the EtherCAT stack whereby the first drive wouldn't initialise unless you started the master before plugging in the Cat cable.
The EtherCAT drives have since been sat on my testing bench while I weigh up options.
Now I've seen the This Old Tony vid where he installs the Automation Technology/IntervalZero/Kingstar setup, but they only sell that as a complete turnkey system, so by the time it gets shipped over the pond, it works out quite expensive. I would have been interested if they were to do this as a software only option, but that doesn't appear to be an option.
The other option I'm aware of is the Vital EC01, however I can't seem to find anybody who's actually used that system.
So is there anybody who has an EtherCAT setup running Mach?
If so, what setup are you using, and would you recommend it?
At the moment, I've got a router planned, which I'd be willing to spend the extra on EtherCAT servos for, but I want a reliable test setup before committing to that.
Thanks
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Re: Lathe G-code question, issue similar to threading.
When ever I have performed this I work out the tool profile the same as you would for a Multi Start thread. Not sure how that would collate to Mill threading.
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Re: Lathe G-code question, issue similar to threading.
As I don't have an encoder on my lathe spindle, only a single slot for Mach3 threading, I would consider doing this on my mill using a thread milling type of process and a thread milling type of tool. It would give all the control needed to put the grooves exactly where they are needed and hand writing some code to do it would be quite an easy task. The biggest issue would be the depth the tool had to overhang in a deep bore, you would have to go shallow and do a number of passes. 1" should not be too bad. I don't think the profile of the groove is critical but the cross section of it may be.
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Re: Lathe G-code question, issue similar to threading.
In general practice the Z axis in a lathe is converted by logic to a c axis(rotary) to perform these tasks. To do that a 0 degree point (master slot) is used to find this point. From there it is a simple process of moving the c axis interpolated degrees for x axis linear movement. Example would be 360 degree rotation for the length of the bush in movement. Second groove would index the c axis to (example) 45 degrees and perform the same function. Etc. it is a fairly easy logic function once the zero point is found to advance the required degrees by working on 1.8 degrees per step of the rotary axis(standard stepper step per move) by the reduction ratio to achieve the degrees required.
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Lathe G-code question, issue similar to threading.
n the attached pic, there is an oil grove that starts at the end, goes in roughly an inch in 270 degrees and then backs out in 270 degrees. In the pic you can't see the exit, but is 180 degrees from the entrance.
I could write a threading G-code, or use a canned Mach4 threading program to do the inbound groove and then do a second program to do the outbound. But how would one "connect" the grooves together? How does Mach determine at what point in the circumference to start?
Another option would be an inbound G-code followed by an outbound G-code. Then move the tool in the X direction. then do the same in and out G-code. But would the tool start at the same spot like threading?
Thanks for any insight. I guess I need to go experiment.
Dale Grice
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I don't remember doing any docs for it. it was done a few years
ago (I think). If you have any issues the support guys worked with
users to make it what it is so they have worked on it.
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On 4/30/2023 9:54 AM, Dave Sage wrote:
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Ok. Thanks. I'll check it out. Is there any documentation -
perhaps in the download or maybe a thread from the past dealing
with it's usage.
Thanks
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Ok. Thanks. I'll check it out. Is there any documentation - perhaps in the download or maybe a thread from the past dealing with it's usage.
Thanks
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follow link
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click on Mach4 ScreenSets on the left side
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scroll to the bottom
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The coil winder screen is packaged in a profile.
Please have a look on this webpage.?
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Graham
Bertho