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Re: Mach3 lathe tools

 

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To make tool changes work use the tool number and the offset.? For example T101, T202 etc.? Also you may have to setup a tool change macro.? Been a while since I did it.? There is a Mach 3 Lathe manual here:



Regards,
George

On 4/22/2022 12:57 PM, Roland Jollivet wrote:


Hi All

In Mach3 Turn, I'm a bit confused by tool numbering. I've just looked through the manual and see nothing on this;

If I select T1 in Gcode then on the Lathe screen I see T0

If I select T100 in Gcode then on the screen I see T1
If I select T200 in Gcode then on the screen I see T2

Is there a '100' offset in the tool numbering?

Will G43 H05 apply to T5 or T500?

Help appreciated..

Regards
Roland





Re: Mach3 One stepper motor won't move

 



On Friday, 22 November, 2019, 08:14:43 am IST, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:


are you using the same breakout board or interface? have you compared the motor setting from the old and new computer? could you have wrong pin assignments on the new computer? check every setting. something is wrong. check signal polarities etc etc.?

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Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 One stepper motor won't move

Everything on the Mach3 diagnostics screen looks good as far as I can see. I know everything is good on the machine is good it works on the old computer.


Re: Mach3 lathe tools

 

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What is the advantage of this? Why not just define two tool numbers – one for the high and one for the low tool? Or use wear offsets? Isn’t that how most systems work?

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Martin Connelly
Sent: April 23, 2022 2:40 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Mach3 lathe tools

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Look at paragraph 7.5.3.3. It explains the T word format. Tool 1 may have a number of entries in the tool table with different parameters set. The last two digits tell the program which tool table line to use. For example tool 1 may have 2 entries with different x offsets. This would allow the same tool to be used for parts that are on the high side of a tolerance band and for parts that are on the low side of a tolerance band. Say you had a nominal ?25 diameter and you wanted it to be the maximum diameter you would have a different offset to where you wanted that to be the minimum diameter.


 


Re: mill wizard license

 



On Monday, 17 January, 2022, 09:43:18 am IST, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:


sounds promising. I will check out tight VNC


On 1/16/2022 8:09 PM, Les Grant wrote:
> If both PCs are on your internal network, have you considered using VNC to access the
> workshop PC from the house? I use TightVNC to access various computers from my main
> PC and it works pretty well. There is even a version that runs on an Android phone if you
> want to check the workshop PC remotely without firing up the house PC.
>
> Regards,
> Les Grant.
>
>
> On 16 Jan 2022 at 19:37, spencer@... wrote:
>
>> I have a license on the shop machine. I just want to use mill wizard in
>> the house but can not figure out how to do that. I have internet from
>> Viasat and it is unbelievably? fucked up. Ability to connect to secure
>> sites changes from hour to hour. I tried to create an account using my
>> welcome email link so I could add another computer to the license but
>> after about an hour gave up.
>>
>> All I want to do is use Mill Wizard in the house I am not trying to get
>> anything for nothing. I used CamBam instead for which I also have a
>> license and got the job done but MW would have been faster.
>>
>> On 1/16/2022 6:33 PM, Ron Ginger wrote:
>>> Yes, that is correct. You can generate a JOB file, which saves all
>>> your operations and input values. You can then load the job file on a
>>> system with a license and generate gcode with it.
>>>
>>> Depending on how you prefer to work you can put the licensee on your
>>> desk machine and do all your design there, then take the gcode to the
>>> shop. You can also do your design and see the resulting graphic, save
>>> the job file and do the gcode on the machine in your shop.
>>>
>>> We tried to make it flexible, give you a nice demo version, but still
>>> restrict it so you would buy a license. We were not doing software for
>>> charity, as I assume you don't give away your work.
>>>
>>> ron ginger
>>>
>>> On 1/16/2022 7:35 PM, spencer@... wrote:
>>>> if i run millwizard without a license it does not let me see or save
>>>> gcode, the buttons are grayed out.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: Mach3 lathe tools

 

Look at paragraph 7.5.3.3. It explains the T word format. Tool 1 may have a number of entries in the tool table with different parameters set. The last two digits tell the program which tool table line to use. For example tool 1 may have 2 entries with different x offsets. This would allow the same tool to be used for parts that are on the high side of a tolerance band and for parts that are on the low side of a tolerance band. Say you had a nominal ?25 diameter and you wanted it to be the maximum diameter you would have a different offset to where you wanted that to be the minimum diameter.


Mach3 lathe tools

 


Hi All

In Mach3 Turn, I'm a bit confused by tool numbering. I've just looked through the manual and see nothing on this;

If I select T1 in Gcode then on the Lathe screen I see T0

If I select T100 in Gcode then on the screen I see T1
If I select T200 in Gcode then on the screen I see T2

Is there a '100' offset in the tool numbering?

Will G43 H05 apply to T5 or T500?

Help appreciated..

Regards
Roland




Replace/upgrade parallel port driver with/to USB

 


Maybe unrelated rant;
For some mysterious reason most small SBC's have the USB 0V connected to shield. This is demented.
I don't know if the uc100 is like that but I usually break the connection on the USB cable shield. The pads are right next to each other on the USB SMD plug and a bridge is too difficult to undo.

On a PC and any PCB of consequence, 0V is separate to chassis and if shorted together creates havoc with PC switching power supplies.
It's fine if the SBC is sitting on your desk, but not if you've interfaced it to a CNC machine or a grounded metal enclosure.
<end of rant>



On Mon, 21 Mar 2022 at 14:22, arturodu <aduncan@...> wrote:
If you can, go with Ethernet for the following reasons:
- USB shares the grounds, so you can end up with the PC sharing the ground with your CNC.? This can give you noise issues and eventually damage the motion controller or the PC. Keep in mind that the ethernet connection is capacitive, it is designed to connect hugh networks with very low voltage signals.?
- USB devices run as Windows Devices, if there is any glitch in the communication, you will lose the device.? Ethernet Devices run on a client-server connection, so, if there is a glitch in communication, it can recuperate and continue running.
One last thing to keep in mind is to stay away from the chineese motion controllers, as they do not control discrete I/Os in real time as they are handled by the control Mach3/4.? Good motion controllers delegetate all real time functions to the external motion controller.? So when you try to use real time functions, like probing, homing, or THC, they are not accurate.??
A good USB motion controller is:

Good Ethernet Motion Controller is:



Arturo Duncan


Re: Mach4 & Single Block

 

Brian,

Glad to hear it's coming.
Any chance you can share how it's going to work?
Will it behave like Fanuc, Haas, GE, Allen Bradley, Bridgeport, Southwest, et al?


Re: Mach4 & Single Block

 

I am confident that someone is bugging my office! Yes I am aware of the Single block issue and we are redesigning how it works. We have document telling how it is going to work and a design for how to make it happen in the core. You should see a release in a few weeks with this all redone. Please tell me how your getting this intel LOL !

______________________________

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Engineering / Development
ArtSoft | Newfangled Solutions
Livermore Falls, Maine (USA)
Webpage:

On 3/24/2022 2:40 PM, Ron Ginger wrote:
That has been a 'feature' of Mach4 for a year or more, maybe forever. Ive told Brian about it a couple times, but I think he likes it that way.

ron ginger

On 3/24/2022 11:24 AM, cimdave@... wrote:
Running Mach4 with mill profile and wx4 screenset.
ESS v260
mach ver 4.2.0.4517
build 4517
Trying to use single block. The LED flashes, but the machine does not stop
after each block the way it should. Just continues thru the program.
The message box displays 'Cannot transition from Running to Single Block'
That message shows even if the program has not yet been started.
Have searched here and on machsupport forum, but haven't seen
anything recent that addresses this
_._,_._,_




Re: Mach4 & Single Block

 

That has been a 'feature' of Mach4 for a year or more, maybe forever. Ive told Brian about it a couple times, but I think he likes it that way.

ron ginger

On 3/24/2022 11:24 AM, cimdave@... wrote:
Running Mach4 with mill profile and wx4 screenset.
ESS v260
mach ver 4.2.0.4517
build 4517
Trying to use single block. The LED flashes, but the machine does not stop
after each block the way it should. Just continues thru the program.
The message box displays 'Cannot transition from Running to Single Block'
That message shows even if the program has not yet been started.
Have searched here and on machsupport forum, but haven't seen
anything recent that addresses this
_._,_._,_


Mach4 & Single Block

 

Running Mach4 with mill profile and wx4 screenset.
ESS v260
mach ver 4.2.0.4517
build 4517
Trying to use single block. The LED flashes, but the machine does not stop
after each block the way it should. Just continues thru the program.
The message box displays 'Cannot transition from Running to Single Block'
That message shows even if the program has not yet been started.
Have searched here and on machsupport forum, but haven't seen
anything recent that addresses this


Re: Replace/upgrade parallel port driver with/to USB

 

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I have been using Arturo’s uc100usb motion controller on my large BPT Series II CNC mills for around 5 years. I have never had a problem with them. These Bridgeport’s are cutting just about every day. That should speak to the dependability of the board. Plus it’s a quick installation. Just label all of your wires before you disconnect your old BOB.

Terry Wellman

On Mar 21, 2022, at 7:22 AM, arturodu <aduncan@...> wrote:

If you can, go with Ethernet for the following reasons:
- USB shares the grounds, so you can end up with the PC sharing the ground with your CNC.? This can give you noise issues and eventually damage the motion controller or the PC. Keep in mind that the ethernet connection is capacitive, it is designed to connect hugh networks with very low voltage signals.?
- USB devices run as Windows Devices, if there is any glitch in the communication, you will lose the device.? Ethernet Devices run on a client-server connection, so, if there is a glitch in communication, it can recuperate and continue running.
One last thing to keep in mind is to stay away from the chineese motion controllers, as they do not control discrete I/Os in real time as they are handled by the control Mach3/4.? Good motion controllers delegetate all real time functions to the external motion controller.? So when you try to use real time functions, like probing, homing, or THC, they are not accurate.??
A good USB motion controller is:

Good Ethernet Motion Controller is:



Arturo Duncan



Re: Replace/upgrade parallel port driver with/to USB

 

I recently upgraded my mill CNC with Mach4, ESS and the MB3 interface card from .? MB3 was delivered very promptly, makes for a neat installation and has so far performed faultlessly together.
Keith?


Re: Replace/upgrade parallel port driver with/to USB

 

If you can, go with Ethernet for the following reasons:
- USB shares the grounds, so you can end up with the PC sharing the ground with your CNC.? This can give you noise issues and eventually damage the motion controller or the PC. Keep in mind that the ethernet connection is capacitive, it is designed to connect hugh networks with very low voltage signals.?
- USB devices run as Windows Devices, if there is any glitch in the communication, you will lose the device.? Ethernet Devices run on a client-server connection, so, if there is a glitch in communication, it can recuperate and continue running.
One last thing to keep in mind is to stay away from the chineese motion controllers, as they do not control discrete I/Os in real time as they are handled by the control Mach3/4.? Good motion controllers delegetate all real time functions to the external motion controller.? So when you try to use real time functions, like probing, homing, or THC, they are not accurate.??
A good USB motion controller is:

Good Ethernet Motion Controller is:

https://www.cnc4pc.com/uc300eth-ethernet-motion-controller-b.html

Arturo Duncan


Re: Replace/upgrade parallel port driver with/to USB

 

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I have a PMDX_125 + USB SS on my WIN-XP MACH3 CNC Router.? It's like walking up to my 1939 Delta Bandsaw and flicking the switch to cut something.

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I liked the PMDX_125 enough to buy a PMDX_126 for the CNC Mill conversion.? I did try the USB SS from the CNC router on it with WIN-XP. ?But ultimately an Ethernet MESA 7i92H with two parallel port outputs on LinuxCNC was cheaper than upgrading to WIN-10+MACH4+Ethernet SS.

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But if I were to have stayed with MACH I'd have picked up an Ethernet SS in a heartbeat.

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John

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Paul Tegler via groups.io
Sent: March-20-22 6:00 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Replace/upgrade parallel port driver with/to USB

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Ditto on the 126 and smoothstepper.
Nearly 8 years and 1000+ runtime hours without a single hiccup? ... well besides those created by the operator? :-)

Still running Mach 3 on XP machines over ethernet. My CNC table as well as my mill/lathe
7:49 minute mark (PMDX126 board)?

ptegler

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On 3/20/2022 6:34 PM, Joe Andolina wrote:

Might be a little late to this thread, but I made the move and am super happy with the result. I went from a generic "Mach3" branded controller to a PMDX-126 with an Ethernet Smooth Stepper (ess). As part of the upgrade, I removed a lot of bits and bobs from the mill that were available on the PMDC board. Another bonus is that I was able to transition from Mach3 to Mach4. If you are thinking of making the move, clear your schedule and go for it!

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Joe

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On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 11:29 AM spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

I was about to give up until I got the Ethernet Smooth Stepper. There may be other ethernet devices now but I can find no fault with the ESS son that is what I would recommend for a new installation. I think I had a few questions when I got it and support was great.

On 3/19/2022 10:43 AM, Dan Mauch wrote:

The ESS is the Ethernet smooth stepper.? The Usb version is different while the ESS has been perfect on my big servo driven mill.

Dan Mauch

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 10:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Replace/upgrade parallel port driver with/to USB

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I tried one before getting the ESS. It worked really badly got all sorts of noise and false steps. That was probably because of the DC servomotor on the spindle. It makes tons of noise and even using a well shielded and grounded to the common ground cable it still was terrible.

On 3/19/2022 3:55 AM, Matt Harrington wrote:

You could consider using a UC100 adapter (parallel to USB) which is what I did when I changed my PC.
I have had no issues with my old setup but don't be tempted with knock off versions at a low price as they don't seem to work (so I am told)


Matt

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Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
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Re: Replace/upgrade parallel port driver with/to USB

 

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Ditto on the 126 and smoothstepper.
Nearly 8 years and 1000+ runtime hours without a single hiccup? ... well besides those created by the operator? :-)

Still running Mach 3 on XP machines over ethernet. My CNC table as well as my mill/lathe
7:49 minute mark (PMDX126 board)?

ptegler


On 3/20/2022 6:34 PM, Joe Andolina wrote:

Might be a little late to this thread, but I made the move and am super happy with the result. I went from a generic "Mach3" branded controller to a PMDX-126 with an Ethernet Smooth Stepper (ess). As part of the upgrade, I removed a lot of bits and bobs from the mill that were available on the PMDC board. Another bonus is that I was able to transition from Mach3 to Mach4. If you are thinking of making the move, clear your schedule and go for it!

Joe

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 11:29 AM spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

I was about to give up until I got the Ethernet Smooth Stepper. There may be other ethernet devices now but I can find no fault with the ESS son that is what I would recommend for a new installation. I think I had a few questions when I got it and support was great.

On 3/19/2022 10:43 AM, Dan Mauch wrote:

The ESS is the Ethernet smooth stepper.? The Usb version is different while the ESS has been perfect on my big servo driven mill.

Dan Mauch

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 10:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Replace/upgrade parallel port driver with/to USB

?

I tried one before getting the ESS. It worked really badly got all sorts of noise and false steps. That was probably because of the DC servomotor on the spindle. It makes tons of noise and even using a well shielded and grounded to the common ground cable it still was terrible.

On 3/19/2022 3:55 AM, Matt Harrington wrote:

You could consider using a UC100 adapter (parallel to USB) which is what I did when I changed my PC.
I have had no issues with my old setup but don't be tempted with knock off versions at a low price as they don't seem to work (so I am told)


Matt

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67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...

                

                
(425) 791-0309
-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...


(425) 791-0309

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Re: Replace/upgrade parallel port driver with/to USB

 

Might be a little late to this thread, but I made the move and am super happy with the result. I went from a generic "Mach3" branded controller to a PMDX-126 with an Ethernet Smooth Stepper (ess). As part of the upgrade, I removed a lot of bits and bobs from the mill that were available on the PMDC board. Another bonus is that I was able to transition from Mach3 to Mach4. If you are thinking of making the move, clear your schedule and go for it!

Joe

On Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 11:29 AM spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:

I was about to give up until I got the Ethernet Smooth Stepper. There may be other ethernet devices now but I can find no fault with the ESS son that is what I would recommend for a new installation. I think I had a few questions when I got it and support was great.

On 3/19/2022 10:43 AM, Dan Mauch wrote:

The ESS is the Ethernet smooth stepper.? The Usb version is different while the ESS has been perfect on my big servo driven mill.

Dan Mauch

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 10:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Replace/upgrade parallel port driver with/to USB

?

I tried one before getting the ESS. It worked really badly got all sorts of noise and false steps. That was probably because of the DC servomotor on the spindle. It makes tons of noise and even using a well shielded and grounded to the common ground cable it still was terrible.

On 3/19/2022 3:55 AM, Matt Harrington wrote:

You could consider using a UC100 adapter (parallel to USB) which is what I did when I changed my PC.
I have had no issues with my old setup but don't be tempted with knock off versions at a low price as they don't seem to work (so I am told)


Matt

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Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309
-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...


(425) 791-0309


Re: Replace/upgrade parallel port driver with/to USB

 

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I was about to give up until I got the Ethernet Smooth Stepper. There may be other ethernet devices now but I can find no fault with the ESS son that is what I would recommend for a new installation. I think I had a few questions when I got it and support was great.

On 3/19/2022 10:43 AM, Dan Mauch wrote:

The ESS is the Ethernet smooth stepper.? The Usb version is different while the ESS has been perfect on my big servo driven mill.

Dan Mauch

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 10:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Replace/upgrade parallel port driver with/to USB

?

I tried one before getting the ESS. It worked really badly got all sorts of noise and false steps. That was probably because of the DC servomotor on the spindle. It makes tons of noise and even using a well shielded and grounded to the common ground cable it still was terrible.

On 3/19/2022 3:55 AM, Matt Harrington wrote:

You could consider using a UC100 adapter (parallel to USB) which is what I did when I changed my PC.
I have had no issues with my old setup but don't be tempted with knock off versions at a low price as they don't seem to work (so I am told)


Matt

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Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...

        

        
(425) 791-0309
-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...


(425) 791-0309


Re: Replace/upgrade parallel port driver with/to USB

 

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The ESS is the Ethernet smooth stepper.? The Usb version is different while the ESS has been perfect on my big servo driven mill.

Dan Mauch

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of spencer@...
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 10:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Replace/upgrade parallel port driver with/to USB

?

I tried one before getting the ESS. It worked really badly got all sorts of noise and false steps. That was probably because of the DC servomotor on the spindle. It makes tons of noise and even using a well shielded and grounded to the common ground cable it still was terrible.

On 3/19/2022 3:55 AM, Matt Harrington wrote:

You could consider using a UC100 adapter (parallel to USB) which is what I did when I changed my PC.
I have had no issues with my old setup but don't be tempted with knock off versions at a low price as they don't seem to work (so I am told)


Matt

-- 
Best regards, Spencer Chase
67550 Bell Springs Rd.
Garberville, CA 95542 Postal service only.
Laytonville, CA 95454 UPS only.
Spencer@...
(425) 791-0309