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Re: Controlling relays via Custom Mcode
Hello Graham, I have attached a pdf of all the macros I use with Mach 3. There is quite a variety however on page 3, M911 and M910 turn on and off the first of 8 outputs I use to control solenoid valves. I am using Mach3 with a Warp9 Ethernet Smoothstepper.
Cheers, Ross
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I have a couple of things that recently happened with my Mach 3 setup.? It will no longer rapid when pressing the shift key on the keyboard.? It used to work but I must have accidently changed something.? The other thing that is not working is saving the position on exit.? The program asks if I want to save and I click yes, but when I restart the program, it comes up with different coordinates than what I saved.? I would appreciate any suggestions on how to solve these issues.
Thanks.
Vince
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Re: Controlling relays via Custom Mcode
I haven’t tried in in real control, at least that I remember, I tested it and watched the diao screen output leds for the outputs4 and 5 ?they did go on and off in mach3’s screen so I assumed they were working.. ? I will check further and see how I have mine setup, I run? 6 relays for the spindle 2 for forward 2 for reverse 1 for power on to the spindle controller and 1 for flood All are SSD relays, also have 2 more for switching from computer control to manual control spindle 3 relays turn on with m3 and then off with m5, and same with m4.. I have to check the computer in shop, so will get back to you as soon as I can.. ? Sent from for Windows 10 ?
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From: GrahamSent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 3:05 AM To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [MachCNC] Controlling relays via Custom Mcode ? Hi Gary
Thanks for your ideas. I had opportunity to day to spend time.
Using O/Ps 3,4,5 & 6. Allocating these to M3 all switch using M3/M5.? so it can all work
I tried the ?turn on using (DoOEMButton(233) , this works, as did 235 etc
However the turnof DoOEMButton(234)?Does not turn off., nor did 236.
Totally confused.
All other I/O was disabled and unplugged to elimate confusion.
Is their more commands to go with the enabling DoOEM etc?
I am writing his code as an Mcode using the VB editor
Any ideas
Regards
Graham ?
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I have succefully used mach4 several times to encoder cut various thread on my lathe. It works fine. Here is a video?
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Re: Controlling relays via Custom Mcode
The problem may be with the plugin for your board.
On 1/31/2021 3:05 AM, Graham wrote:
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Hi Gary
Thanks for your ideas. I had opportunity to day to spend time.
Using O/Ps 3,4,5 & 6. Allocating these to M3 all switch using
M3/M5.? so it can all work
I tried the ?turn on using (DoOEMButton(233) , this works, as did
235 etc
However the turnof DoOEMButton(234)?Does not turn off., nor did
236.
Totally confused.
All other I/O was disabled and unplugged to elimate confusion.
Is their more commands to go with the enabling DoOEM etc?
I am writing his code as an Mcode using the VB editor
Any ideas
Regards
Graham
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Re: Controlling relays via Custom Mcode
Hi Gary Thanks for your ideas. I had opportunity to day to spend time. Using O/Ps 3,4,5 & 6. Allocating these to M3 all switch using M3/M5.? so it can all work I tried the ?turn on using (DoOEMButton(233) , this works, as did 235 etc However the turnof DoOEMButton(234)?Does not turn off., nor did 236. Totally confused. All other I/O was disabled and unplugged to elimate confusion. Is their more commands to go with the enabling DoOEM etc? I am writing his code as an Mcode using the VB editor Any ideas Regards Graham
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Does the vacuum pump have to actually be hooked up and running for spindle to start?
I have tried toggling vacuum button on mach3.? It lights up and I hear a relay but I haven't ran power for the pump yet.? I wanted to make sure I can get this machine running first.
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Yes,? here's where I'm at.? I fixed the reversed tool clamping issue with the information provided by others here.? Thank you.
I just manually turned on the spindle and tried to control rpms or turn off thru mach3 but that didnt do anything to the spindle speed.?
I do not know if my spindle is controlled by a relay or something else.? I've read about modbus, etc.? I can take pictures of the electronics and the settings if that helps
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If I understand you correctly, in the diagnostic screen you can toggle the spindle button and presumably you will see the LED output diagnostic also toggle and you hear a relay switching. That sounds like the software is working but the electrical signal is not going through the relay to the VFD. Bertho ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Tom B via groups.io Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2021 07:56 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [MachCNC] New cnc ? Thank you for the replies.?
How do I tell how the spindle is controlled?? What should I look for?? ? The VFD says "0.0 "on the display.? ?
I tried toggling spindle on off thru diagnostics and mdi pages.? ? I hear a click of a relay when I manually hit spindle button when I have unchecked the spindle tab in motor outputs but it still doesnt work.?
I have tried to run the spindle without the tool in the spindle and with the tool in the spindle.? Clamped and released.? Neither work.? ??
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Thank you for the replies.?
How do I tell how the spindle is controlled?? What should I look for?? ? The VFD says "0.0 "on the display.? ?
I tried toggling spindle on off thru diagnostics and mdi pages.? ? I hear a click of a relay when I manually hit spindle button when I have unchecked the spindle tab in motor outputs but it still doesnt work.?
I have tried to run the spindle without the tool in the spindle and with the tool in the spindle.? Clamped and released.? Neither work.? ??
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just a wild guess, but you say the auto tool holder is reversed,
is it possible there is an internal interlock that disables the
spindle motor while it thinks the tool clamp is open?
Chuck S.
On 1/28/2021 2:39 AM, Thayer Syme
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If you want to just get started, I would recommend reversing
the hi/lo as Andy recommended, and consider toggling the spindle
manually. I know it isn't ideal, but a lot of good parts have
been made without machine control of the spindle.
Thayer
On 1/27/21 11:35 PM, Andy Wander
wrote:
Sounds like
you need to reverse the “Active Hi/Active Lo” setting for
the Auto tool spindle release. That should stop it from
acting backwards.
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How is the
VFD supposed to be controlled by Mach3? Is it using
relays, PWM, or step/dir?
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Hi,
? ?I bought a used cnc and can't get the spindle to turn
on.? It's a Boss cnc router 10hp spindle.? It has mach3
installed on it but no other info.? I've watched a lot of
tutorials and changed some of the inputs and outputs etc
trying to get it to run.? I can manually move x y z.? I can
run g code.? But no spindle.? The fan on top of the spindle
is working.? ? I can turn the spindle on directly at the
vfd, which is a V1000.? The machine is 3 phase running off a
30 hp converter.? The auto tool spindle release and clamp
are acting in reverse, clamp drops the bit, release holds
the bit.??
? ? The drill block does turn on and off manually, the drill
block is turning the correct direction.? Since the drill
block and spindle turn the correct? direction I dont think
the 3 phase power is the issue.
? Any help would be greatly appreciated.? Thank you
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If you want to just get started, I would recommend reversing the
hi/lo as Andy recommended, and consider toggling the spindle
manually. I know it isn't ideal, but a lot of good parts have been
made without machine control of the spindle.
Thayer
On 1/27/21 11:35 PM, Andy Wander wrote:
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Sounds like you
need to reverse the “Active Hi/Active Lo” setting for the
Auto tool spindle release. That should stop it from acting
backwards.
?
How is the VFD
supposed to be controlled by Mach3? Is it using relays, PWM,
or step/dir?
?
?
?
Hi,
? ?I bought a used cnc and can't get the spindle to turn on.?
It's a Boss cnc router 10hp spindle.? It has mach3 installed
on it but no other info.? I've watched a lot of tutorials and
changed some of the inputs and outputs etc trying to get it to
run.? I can manually move x y z.? I can run g code.? But no
spindle.? The fan on top of the spindle is working.? ? I can
turn the spindle on directly at the vfd, which is a V1000.?
The machine is 3 phase running off a 30 hp converter.? The
auto tool spindle release and clamp are acting in reverse,
clamp drops the bit, release holds the bit.??
? ? The drill block does turn on and off manually, the drill
block is turning the correct direction.? Since the drill block
and spindle turn the correct? direction I dont think the 3
phase power is the issue.
? Any help would be greatly appreciated.? Thank you
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Sounds like you need to reverse the “Active Hi/Active Lo” setting for the Auto tool spindle release. That should stop it from acting backwards. ? How is the VFD supposed to be controlled by Mach3? Is it using relays, PWM, or step/dir? ? ?
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From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Prmesquite via groups.io Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2021 10:12 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [MachCNC] New cnc ? Hi,
? ?I bought a used cnc and can't get the spindle to turn on.? It's a Boss cnc router 10hp spindle.? It has mach3 installed on it but no other info.? I've watched a lot of tutorials and changed some of the inputs and outputs etc trying to get it to run.? I can manually move x y z.? I can run g code.? But no spindle.? The fan on top of the spindle is working.? ? I can turn the spindle on directly at the vfd, which is a V1000.? The machine is 3 phase running off a 30 hp converter.? The auto tool spindle release and clamp are acting in reverse, clamp drops the bit, release holds the bit.??
? ? The drill block does turn on and off manually, the drill block is turning the correct direction.? Since the drill block and spindle turn the correct? direction I dont think the 3 phase power is the issue.
? Any help would be greatly appreciated.? Thank you
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Hi,
? ?I bought a used cnc and can't get the spindle to turn on.? It's a Boss cnc router 10hp spindle.? It has mach3 installed on it but no other info.? I've watched a lot of tutorials and changed some of the inputs and outputs etc trying to get it to run.? I can manually move x y z.? I can run g code.? But no spindle.? The fan on top of the spindle is working.? ? I can turn the spindle on directly at the vfd, which is a V1000.? The machine is 3 phase running off a 30 hp converter.? The auto tool spindle release and clamp are acting in reverse, clamp drops the bit, release holds the bit.??
? ? The drill block does turn on and off manually, the drill block is turning the correct direction.? Since the drill block and spindle turn the correct? direction I dont think the 3 phase power is the issue.
? Any help would be greatly appreciated.? Thank you
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Re: Controlling relays via Custom Mcode
not sure if this will work the way you want, but you can turn on and off outputs with something like this
DoOEMButton(233) 'output4 on
DoOEMButton(234) 'output4 off
DoOEMButton(235) 'output5 on
DoOEMButton(236) 'output5 off
Gary
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Re: Controlling relays via Custom Mcode
Graham:
?Most likely would be another output set to the same pin. Cant think
of anything else that may do it..
Art
On 1/23/2021 7:02 PM, Graham wrote:
I wish to control via relays,
Using Mach3, VB and MK4-ET V1.5 XHC Motion card., Omron 24VDC
relays.
The "ON" code is M704, and content is ActivateSignal(Output4) :
This works
The "OFF" code is M724 and content is DeActivateSignal(Output4)
Does not work.!!!!!
When I trip Emg Stop outputs cease, so electrically the outputs
work.
I have M3/M5 set to output 3 and this works.
Impression is that there is an error in the syntax, or
something.?????
I would appreciate any learned comment on what I am doing
incorrect.
Many Thanks
Graham
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Thanks
Art
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Controlling relays via Custom Mcode
I wish to control via relays,
Using Mach3, VB and MK4-ET V1.5 XHC Motion card., Omron 24VDC relays.
The "ON" code is M704, and content is ActivateSignal(Output4) : This works
The "OFF" code is M724 and content is DeActivateSignal(Output4) Does not work.!!!!!
When I trip Emg Stop outputs cease, so electrically the outputs work.
I have M3/M5 set to output 3 and this works.
Impression is that there is an error in the syntax, or something.?????
I would appreciate any learned comment on what I am doing incorrect.
Many Thanks
Graham
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Using wizards to run parts
Have you tried this;
Can't say I've got it to work yet, but you might have more luck...
Sooo... Looking for guidance on using the wizards to run these parts.
I'm without a full-fledged CAM program, and these parts seem simple enough.
FWIW, I'm running Mach3 on a Compact 5 CNC PC with a much larger chuck.
Suggestions?
Thanks
Chris
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Mach 3 reference, not homing
Hi All
In Mach3 Turn;
When one clicks on the button "Set Home X", the axis moves onto the switch, and backs off, setting the reference point. However, a G28 or G53 simply moves... to that position. It does not re-reference the machine.
I want to turn a number of parts, and wanted to incorporate a G53 in the routine so that if there was ever a lost step, it would not accumulate, and only affect a single part. But I see that a G28 of G53 would not help, since it simply moves to the zero position, which is of no help.
Is there a way to get the machine to re-reference in Gcode?? Is there a script available?
I think my only other option is to use a G27 command to test zero position, but that halts on error
Roland
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Graham
Bertho
Art