mach4 is working pretty well for me with just a few annoying
bugs. when you open the program it shows the last jog increment
but it actually has something else stored in memory and if you jog
intending to jog .01" you may jog 1" breaking a cutter. i am not
good at remembering these bugs. i would like to seith to a
dedicated controller but i have my screens and methods all set up
to make life easy for me. i doubt i could make the switch. i am
under treatment for stage 4 cancer and have very little energy and
occasional brain fog. i can only work half days at best and do not
need more work, i want less.
On 10/21/2021 10:40 PM, Tony Smith
wrote:
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Thing
is, Windows has had API¡¯s to handle all that stuff for you
for ages.? If you let Windows handle it, your files even
show up in Explorer (quick links and all that) so you can
open from there, pin them, mark as favourites and all that
sort of stuff.
?
You¡¯d
think if you were going to develop for Windows, you¡¯d kinda
learn how the operating system does things and what it can
do for you.
?
As
I said, the Mach devs thinking never got past DOS 6.2.? (Not
even 6.22 which was the one where they put commas in long
files sizes!)
?
Tossing
the MRU list into the machine profile is not something the
smartest tools in the shed do.? You really don¡¯t want that
file written to all the time, one glitch = corrupted file
and your machine is dead. ?Remember the ¡°hey, my profile is
corrupt!¡± threads?
?
Tony
?
?
?
I can
understand your frustration. Maybe now that we've
discussed the heck out of it, they'll pay some attention.
Though from what I understand, this is not actually an
official Mach group. If I'm correct, we're lucky that they
spend any time here at all. Heck, they could call it
"recentfiles.ini" or something that makes sense, right?
I've given up on talking to the Microsoft folks, myself.
Been using their stuff for quite a long time. Hope the
Mach folks don't do the same sorts of idiotic messing
about that MS does.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a
sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying,
take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations,
analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty
meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
the
first thing i did was read RTFM and there was no
mention. then i looked for a file that made
sense to hold the file list. it did not occur to
me that it would be in machine.ini.
to
get rid of a file in the list you need to open
machine.ini in the working profile with mach4
closed and delete it and then restart mach4
because it apparently keeps a local file of
machine.ini and writes it back
i
still would like to have mach4 ask if you want
to remove the file from the list if it is not
found, that would serve everyone's needs without
you having to remember the file and edit
yourself while mach4 is closed. i hate these
sorts of work arounds that have to be
remembered. i also would like the most recent
file to be moved to the top of the list as it is
in other programs i use.
On
10/21/2021 8:29 PM, Bill in OKC too via
groups.io wrote:
I
don't think I'd go with dumb, but a more
specific question would give the
knowledgeable folks a better idea of what
you needed. Why do you think I'm not even
asking any questions? I don't know enough
about the software to even ask a good
question! And any question I did ask could
probably be best answered with some
variation of RTFI! That's "Read the Freaking
Instructions!" in case you weren't aware of
that acronym. Windows has a location that it
keeps recent files, as does MS Word, so I
would expect Mach does as well. Couldn't
tell you any longer where the previous two
keep theirs, and have never run any version
of Mach. Though I expect I could figure it
out if I needed to. I would expect that Mach
would keep that listed updated if you delete
those files through Mach, which might help
you. Or maybe not. Windows has changed an
awful lot since I first started playing with
it.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a
diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a
building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort
the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve
equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer,
cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization
is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
you
are right i pointed out the problem
but did not specifically ask for a
solution. i guess it was dumb of me
to assume that someone would answer
without an explicit question.
On
10/21/2021 7:52 PM, Bill in OKC
too via groups.io wrote:
This
thread, saved files, was
started at 2:33 pm October
20th, according to my
history.?
You
had another thread, recently
opened, you started October
16. I don't see where anyone
responded to it, but you
didn't really ask anything
but if there were updates to
Mach4.?
I'd
suggest if you want answers,
you ask an overt question.
Might work better for you.
Unfortunately, I can't
answer them because I don't
yet have Mach in any
version. Just sort of
following along wondering if
it would do anything I need
done in the future.
William
R. Meyers, MSgt,
USAF(Ret.)
A
human being should be
able to change a
diaper, plan an
invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a
ship, design a
building, write a
sonnet, balance
accounts, build a
wall, set a bone,
comfort the dying,
take orders,
give orders,
cooperate, act alone,
solve equations,
analyze a new
problem, pitch manure,
program a computer,
cook a tasty meal,
fight
efficiently, die
gallantly.
Specialization is for
insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert
A. Heinlein)
?
my
history shows saturday
or 5 days ago as i
said. i believe i
asked this a while ago
as well.
On
10/21/2021 7:15 PM,
mike allen wrote:
???
??? you don't have to
justify anything to me
. Check your email
history . You started
this thread yesterday
according to my
history . Wasted
enough bandwith here .
Just mind your manners
& we'll be fine .
I'm done with this .
???
animal
i
posted the question
probably 5 days ago
and maybe in the past
a well. i spent a lot
of time trying to
figure this out myself
before even posting.?
i also mentioned a
serious bug months ago
and nothing was done
about that either.
On
10/21/2021 6:40 PM,
mike allen wrote:
???
??? I'm not here to
police , I'm here to
learn . I just get
sick of folks that
start whining as soon
as something doesn't
go their way .
???
??? " and why is this
a well kept secret?
the recent files list
is bullshit without
the ability to edit it
"
???
??? You had a problem
& posted about it
& then kept
slamming about it for
a day & never even
gave the mach folks a
chance to get you a
answer? .
???
??? animal
i
don't know if you are
referring to me as one
of the two doing all
the complaining. i was
just asking for a
reasonable solution. i
generally find mach4
much better than 3 in
many ways but would
like to have it even
better. there are a
few annoying
"features" that i
would like to see
improved. if asking
for that is "doing all
the complaining" i
think you are a
hypersensitive jerk.
On
10/21/2021 3:59 PM,
mike allen wrote:
??? ??? My
post was not aimed
at you John . It was
aimed at the two
folks doing all the
complaining? . No
one is here forcing
them to use Mach ,
but just cause
someone is having a
bad hair day or what
??? ???
ever is no excuse to
slam the developer
of the program .
Brian is here
occasionally to
answer questions
& maybe take bug
reports . If you
don't like the way
the program was
wrote them go write
your own program !!
On
10/21/2021 11:41 AM,
John McGovern via
groups.io wrote:
Please take
me out of this
conversation. I've
tried everything I
know how to do. I
was never in this
topic.
Sent from my
T-Mobile 5G Device
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Date:
10/21/21 12:13 PM
(GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re:
[MachCNC] saved
files
???
??? is anyone forcing
you guys to use Mach ?
???
??? animal
On
10/21/2021 3:53 AM,
Tony Smith wrote:
Of course
it's not a good
place, as I said
the Mach devs are
pretty clueless
about how to
organise things
under Windows.
Programs
like Mach4 are
the answer to
"Why is Windows
security so
shit?".
?
i have
never had to
find the
location of
mru file list
because most
apps i have
used offer the
option of
deleting an
entry if it is
not found. it
is in
machine.ini
which does not
seem like a
good place.
?
On
10/20/2021
7:57 PM, Tony
Smith wrote:
Apparently
invisible on
Spencers PC.
?
Someone
should tell
the Mach devs
about how this
new-fangled
Windows stuff
is supposed to
work.? I mean
it¡¯s only been
about 30
years.
?
Tony
?
?
?
It¡¯s
in the
Machine.ini
file in your
profile folder
under
C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles
?
?
What
secret??
No-one cares.
?
I¡¯ve put
MRU lists into
just about
everything
I¡¯ve ever
written, and
never once put
in an option
to clear it,
nor did any
one ask.? It
really is a
very low
priority.?
Hell, I
remember when
MRUs became
the big new
thing, lol.
?
People only
care when you
don¡¯t want
your wife to
see the
¡°special
interest¡±
videos you¡¯ve
been watching,
she may ask
about your
sudden
interest in
basket
weaving.
?
Not
surprised the
MRU isn¡¯t in
the registry,
the Mach dev
are still
living in the
DOS days.?
Given that as
before take a
rummage thru
the Mach4
folder, there
will be some
sort of
setting files
(,ini, .dat?)
that has the
list.? The
modified date
should be
recent as
it¡¯ll be
edited every
time you fire
up Mach4.?
Whether you
can write a
little script
to modify
that, who
knows.
?
Wouldn¡¯t
surprise me if
it¡¯s tacked
onto the
machine
settings file.
?
File a
request with
the Mach devs,
nothing will
happen but
anyway.
?
Tony
?
?
?
?
and
why is this a
well kept
secret? the
recent files
list is
bullshit
without the
ability to
edit it.
right
clicking does
nothing nor
can i find the
files in the
registry. it i
a severe lack
to not allow
users to get
rid of this
garbage if
they want to.
i understand
the fat that
some people
might want to
keep files
from external
sources in the
list but what
about those
who want to
get rid of the
garbage. there
has to be a
way to get rid
of this or
clear the
whole cache.
On
10/20/2021
5:25 PM, John
McGovern via
wrote:
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T-Mobile 5G
Device
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message
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Date:
10/20/21 6:20
PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re:
[MachCNC]
saved files
I meant
some programs
let you clear
the list, eg
in MS Office
you can
right-click
the list and
it'll have a
"Clear
recents"
option,
something like
that.
I very much
doubt Mach4
does this,
If the list
does wind up
in the
registry, what
you can do is
delete all of
the files,
then save the
Key (registry
folder) to a
file (will
have a reg
extension).?
If you then
open that file
in the future
it will ask if
you want to
replace the
current Key
with it, thus
clearing the
list.
Oh, and
before I said
to search for
'Values' in
the registry,
should have
said 'Data'.
?
what
is this
"occasional
program" and
where do i get
it?
On
10/20/2021
2:42 PM, Tony
Smith wrote:
It's called
an MRU (Most
Recently Used)
list, and is
typically
stored in the
Windows
registry.
Of course
given the Mach
devs don't
have much of a
clue about
where you are
supposed to
put stuff
(C;\Mach4?
Sure!), their
list could be
anywhere, but
probably in
the install
folder where
they?dump
everything
else.
Use regedit
to search for
one of the
files on the
list, it can
search for 3
types of
things so just
leave 'Value'
ticked.? Try a
partial match
as well.? This
will be a bit
slow as Values
aren't
indexed..
The reasons
why no-one
clears out the
list is
because it
wastes time,
and the files
may only be
temporarily
unavailable
(different
flash drive,
network drive
etc) so wiping
the 'dead'
ones will
annoy a
different
bunch of
people.? There
is the
occasional
program
that'll let
you clear the
list, not all
that common.
?
i
wrote before
with no reply.
Mach four
maintains a
recent fiels
list
but there is
no wa to get
rid of old
files. this
make a logn
useless
list of
current files
mixed with a
bunch of old
deleted stuff.
makes it
a pain to
choose the
right file.
easier to have
a working
folder and do
the management
yourself,
where is this
list found and
can it be
edited?
or better yet
why cant mach4
automatically
delete files
that are nor
found ?
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On 10/22/2021 4:12 AM, Art wrote: I for one have been using Mach3 on two XP computers for many many years
?Me too, many many years. :)
Art Fenerty
On 2021-10-22 4:39 a.m., phill005 via groups.io wrote:
I for one have been using Mach3 on two XP computers for many many years
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I for one have been using Mach3 on two XP computers for many many years
Me too, many many years. :) ______________________________ I even have one machine running windows 2000 Chuck -sent from my iphone -- On Oct 22, 2021, at 4:12 AM, Art <fenerty@...> wrote:
?>>I for one have been using Mach3 on two XP computers for many many years
Me too, many many years. :)
Art Fenerty
On 2021-10-22 4:39 a.m., phill005 via groups.io wrote:
I for one have been using Mach3 on two XP computers for many many years
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Observations.....
This is a Mach3 USER support group.
Mach3 has been off life support for many, many years.
Spenser's original question?was about Mach4, which is much better supported, at least by a small margin?(!), in their forum.
Tom, long time Mach 3 user who has moved on to Mach4;), however reluctantly! And it works well other than it's darn recent files list!!!
On Fri, Oct 22, 2021 at 6:12 AM Art < fenerty@...> wrote: ?>>I for one have been using Mach3 on two XP computers for many many years
??Me too, many many years. :)
Art Fenerty
On 2021-10-22 4:39 a.m., phill005 via wrote:
> I for one have been using Mach3 on two XP computers for many many years
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I for one have been using Mach3 on two XP computers for many many years
?Me too, many many years. :) Art Fenerty On 2021-10-22 4:39 a.m., phill005 via groups.io wrote: I for one have been using Mach3 on two XP computers for many many years
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Re: Mach3 Tool Setter macro
On Thu, Oct 21, 2021 at 6:14 PM Dan Mauch < dmauch@...> wrote: Disregard my post. I figured out what the problem was and solved it.
Dan
For anyone else running into the same issue - - -please?
What was the issue and how did you solve it?
TIA?
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And this comment of yours: ¡°..am still running under XP even. All hardware is cobbled home brew and works as expected.¡± is why I don¡¯t use Mach any more, sometimes you just get tired of all the crap you need to do to keep things running.? I still have one Mach3 box,?
Tony,?
I for one have been using Mach3 on two XP computers for many many years with NO problems whatsoever so If you do not like mach in any form what the hell are you doing opening your big mouth go and p-ss on your own bed.?
Phill
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Thing is, Windows has had API¡¯s to handle all that stuff for you for ages.? If you let Windows handle it, your files even show up in Explorer (quick links and all that) so you can open from there, pin them, mark as favourites and all that sort of stuff. ? You¡¯d think if you were going to develop for Windows, you¡¯d kinda learn how the operating system does things and what it can do for you. ? As I said, the Mach devs thinking never got past DOS 6.2.? (Not even 6.22 which was the one where they put commas in long files sizes!) ? Tossing the MRU list into the machine profile is not something the smartest tools in the shed do.? You really don¡¯t want that file written to all the time, one glitch = corrupted file and your machine is dead. ?Remember the ¡°hey, my profile is corrupt!¡± threads? ? Tony ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill in OKC too via groups.io
Sent: Friday, 22 October 2021 2:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files? I can understand your frustration. Maybe now that we've discussed the heck out of it, they'll pay some attention. Though from what I understand, this is not actually an official Mach group. If I'm correct, we're lucky that they spend any time here at all. Heck, they could call it "recentfiles.ini" or something that makes sense, right? I've given up on talking to the Microsoft folks, myself. Been using their stuff for quite a long time. Hope the Mach folks don't do the same sorts of idiotic messing about that MS does.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
the first thing i did was read RTFM and there was no mention. then i looked for a file that made sense to hold the file list. it did not occur to me that it would be in machine.ini. to get rid of a file in the list you need to open machine.ini in the working profile with mach4 closed and delete it and then restart mach4 because it apparently keeps a local file of machine.ini and writes it back i still would like to have mach4 ask if you want to remove the file from the list if it is not found, that would serve everyone's needs without you having to remember the file and edit yourself while mach4 is closed. i hate these sorts of work arounds that have to be remembered. i also would like the most recent file to be moved to the top of the list as it is in other programs i use. On 10/21/2021 8:29 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote: I don't think I'd go with dumb, but a more specific question would give the knowledgeable folks a better idea of what you needed. Why do you think I'm not even asking any questions? I don't know enough about the software to even ask a good question! And any question I did ask could probably be best answered with some variation of RTFI! That's "Read the Freaking Instructions!" in case you weren't aware of that acronym. Windows has a location that it keeps recent files, as does MS Word, so I would expect Mach does as well. Couldn't tell you any longer where the previous two keep theirs, and have never run any version of Mach. Though I expect I could figure it out if I needed to. I would expect that Mach would keep that listed updated if you delete those files through Mach, which might help you. Or maybe not. Windows has changed an awful lot since I first started playing with it.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
you are right i pointed out the problem but did not specifically ask for a solution. i guess it was dumb of me to assume that someone would answer without an explicit question. On 10/21/2021 7:52 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote: This thread, saved files, was started at 2:33 pm October 20th, according to my history.? You had another thread, recently opened, you started October 16. I don't see where anyone responded to it, but you didn't really ask anything but if there were updates to Mach4.? I'd suggest if you want answers, you ask an overt question. Might work better for you. Unfortunately, I can't answer them because I don't yet have Mach in any version. Just sort of following along wondering if it would do anything I need done in the future. William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein) ? my history shows saturday or 5 days ago as i said. i believe i asked this a while ago as well. On 10/21/2021 7:15 PM, mike allen wrote: ??? ??? you don't have to justify anything to me . Check your email history . You started this thread yesterday according to my history . Wasted enough bandwith here . Just mind your manners & we'll be fine . I'm done with this . ??? animal i posted the question probably 5 days ago and maybe in the past a well. i spent a lot of time trying to figure this out myself before even posting.? i also mentioned a serious bug months ago and nothing was done about that either. On 10/21/2021 6:40 PM, mike allen wrote: ??? ??? I'm not here to police , I'm here to learn . I just get sick of folks that start whining as soon as something doesn't go their way . ??? ??? " and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it " ??? ??? You had a problem & posted about it & then kept slamming about it for a day & never even gave the mach folks a chance to get you a answer? . ??? ??? animal i don't know if you are referring to me as one of the two doing all the complaining. i was just asking for a reasonable solution. i generally find mach4 much better than 3 in many ways but would like to have it even better. there are a few annoying "features" that i would like to see improved. if asking for that is "doing all the complaining" i think you are a hypersensitive jerk. On 10/21/2021 3:59 PM, mike allen wrote: ??? ??? My post was not aimed at you John . It was aimed at the two folks doing all the complaining? . No one is here forcing them to use Mach , but just cause someone is having a bad hair day or what ??? ??? ever is no excuse to slam the developer of the program . Brian is here occasionally to answer questions & maybe take bug reports . If you don't like the way the program was wrote them go write your own program !! On 10/21/2021 11:41 AM, John McGovern via groups.io wrote: Please take me out of this conversation. I've tried everything I know how to do. I was never in this topic. Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device -------- Original message -------- Date: 10/21/21 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files ??? ??? is anyone forcing you guys to use Mach ? ??? ??? animal On 10/21/2021 3:53 AM, Tony Smith wrote: Of course it's not a good place, as I said the Mach devs are pretty clueless about how to organise things under Windows. Programs like Mach4 are the answer to "Why is Windows security so shit?". ? i have never had to find the location of mru file list because most apps i have used offer the option of deleting an entry if it is not found. it is in machine.ini which does not seem like a good place. ? On 10/20/2021 7:57 PM, Tony Smith wrote: Apparently invisible on Spencers PC. ? Someone should tell the Mach devs about how this new-fangled Windows stuff is supposed to work.? I mean it¡¯s only been about 30 years. ? Tony ? ? ? It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file in your profile folder under C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles ? ? What secret?? No-one cares. ? I¡¯ve put MRU lists into just about everything I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in an option to clear it, nor did any one ask.? It really is a very low priority.? Hell, I remember when MRUs became the big new thing, lol. ? People only care when you don¡¯t want your wife to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos you¡¯ve been watching, she may ask about your sudden interest in basket weaving. ? Not surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the registry, the Mach dev are still living in the DOS days.? Given that as before take a rummage thru the Mach4 folder, there will be some sort of setting files (,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The modified date should be recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time you fire up Mach4.? Whether you can write a little script to modify that, who knows. ? Wouldn¡¯t surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the machine settings file. ? File a request with the Mach devs, nothing will happen but anyway. ? Tony ? ? ? ? and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it. right clicking does nothing nor can i find the files in the registry. it i a severe lack to not allow users to get rid of this garbage if they want to. i understand the fat that some people might want to keep files from external sources in the list but what about those who want to get rid of the garbage. there has to be a way to get rid of this or clear the whole cache. On 10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern via wrote: Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device -------- Original message -------- Date: 10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files I meant some programs let you clear the list, eg in MS Office you can right-click the list and it'll have a "Clear recents" option, something like that. I very much doubt Mach4 does this, If the list does wind up in the registry, what you can do is delete all of the files, then save the Key (registry folder) to a file (will have a reg extension).? If you then open that file in the future it will ask if you want to replace the current Key with it, thus clearing the list. Oh, and before I said to search for 'Values' in the registry, should have said 'Data'. ? what is this "occasional program" and where do i get it? On 10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony Smith wrote: It's called an MRU (Most Recently Used) list, and is typically stored in the Windows registry. Of course given the Mach devs don't have much of a clue about where you are supposed to put stuff (C;\Mach4? Sure!), their list could be anywhere, but probably in the install folder where they?dump everything else. Use regedit to search for one of the files on the list, it can search for 3 types of things so just leave 'Value' ticked.? Try a partial match as well.? This will be a bit slow as Values aren't indexed.. The reasons why no-one clears out the list is because it wastes time, and the files may only be temporarily unavailable (different flash drive, network drive etc) so wiping the 'dead' ones will annoy a different bunch of people.? There is the occasional program that'll let you clear the list, not all that common. ? i wrote before with no reply. Mach four maintains a recent fiels list
but there is no wa to get rid of old files. this make a logn useless
list of current files mixed with a bunch of old deleted stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the right file. easier to have a working folder and do
the management yourself, where is this list found and can it be edited?
or better yet why cant mach4 automatically delete files that are nor found ?
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i will probably just give up on the recently used files list.
will probably take it off the screen so i am not tempted.
(fortunately mach4 screen editing is much easier than mach3). and
put the ones i use all the time in a folder and use open instead
of open recent.
On 10/21/2021 8:57 PM, Bill in OKC too
via groups.io wrote:
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I can understand your frustration. Maybe now that we've
discussed the heck out of it, they'll pay some attention. Though
from what I understand, this is not actually an official Mach
group. If I'm correct, we're lucky that they spend any time here
at all. Heck, they could call it "recentfiles.ini" or something
that makes sense, right? I've given up on talking to the
Microsoft folks, myself. Been using their stuff for quite a long
time. Hope the Mach folks don't do the same sorts of idiotic
messing about that MS does.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet,
balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take
orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a
new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal,
fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
the first thing i did was read RTFM and there was no
mention. then i looked for a file that made sense to
hold the file list. it did not occur to me that it
would be in machine.ini.
to get rid of a file in the list you need to open
machine.ini in the working profile with mach4 closed
and delete it and then restart mach4 because it
apparently keeps a local file of machine.ini and
writes it back
i still would like to have mach4 ask if you want to
remove the file from the list if it is not found, that
would serve everyone's needs without you having to
remember the file and edit yourself while mach4 is
closed. i hate these sorts of work arounds that have
to be remembered. i also would like the most recent
file to be moved to the top of the list as it is in
other programs i use.
On 10/21/2021
8:29 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:
I don't think I'd go with dumb, but a more
specific question would give the knowledgeable folks
a better idea of what you needed. Why do you think
I'm not even asking any questions? I don't know
enough about the software to even ask a good
question! And any question I did ask could probably
be best answered with some variation of RTFI! That's
"Read the Freaking Instructions!" in case you
weren't aware of that acronym. Windows has a
location that it keeps recent files, as does MS
Word, so I would expect Mach does as well. Couldn't
tell you any longer where the previous two keep
theirs, and have never run any version of Mach.
Though I expect I could figure it out if I needed
to. I would expect that Mach would keep that listed
updated if you delete those files through Mach,
which might help you. Or maybe not. Windows has
changed an awful lot since I first started playing
with it.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper,
plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write
a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the
dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations,
analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a
tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for
insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
you are right i pointed out the problem
but did not specifically ask for a
solution. i guess it was dumb of me to
assume that someone would answer without
an explicit question.
On
10/21/2021 7:52 PM, Bill in OKC too via
groups.io wrote:
This thread, saved files, was
started at 2:33 pm October 20th,
according to my history.?
You had another thread, recently
opened, you started October 16. I
don't see where anyone responded to
it, but you didn't really ask
anything but if there were updates
to Mach4.?
I'd suggest if you want answers,
you ask an overt question. Might
work better for you. Unfortunately,
I can't answer them because I don't
yet have Mach in any version. Just
sort of following along wondering if
it would do anything I need done in
the future.
Bill in OKC
William
R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A
human being should be able
to change a diaper, plan
an invasion,
butcher
a hog, conn a ship, design
a building, write a
sonnet, balance
accounts,
build a wall, set a bone,
comfort the dying, take
orders,
give
orders, cooperate, act
alone, solve equations,
analyze a new
problem,
pitch manure, program a
computer, cook a tasty
meal, fight
efficiently,
die gallantly.
Specialization is for
insects.
LAZARUS
LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
my history shows saturday
or 5 days ago as i said. i
believe i asked this a while
ago as well.
On
10/21/2021 7:15 PM, mike
allen wrote:
??? ??? you don't have to
justify anything to me .
Check your email history .
You started this thread
yesterday according to my
history . Wasted enough
bandwith here . Just mind
your manners & we'll be
fine . I'm done with this .
??? animal
i posted the question
probably 5 days ago and
maybe in the past a well. i
spent a lot of time trying
to figure this out myself
before even posting.? i also
mentioned a serious bug
months ago and nothing was
done about that either.
On
10/21/2021 6:40 PM, mike
allen wrote:
??? ??? I'm not here to
police , I'm here to learn .
I just get sick of folks
that start whining as soon
as something doesn't go
their way .
??? ??? " and why is this a
well kept secret? the recent
files list is bullshit
without the ability to edit
it "
??? ??? You had a problem
& posted about it &
then kept slamming about it
for a day & never even
gave the mach folks a chance
to get you a answer? .
??? ??? animal
i don't know if you are
referring to me as one of
the two doing all the
complaining. i was just
asking for a reasonable
solution. i generally find
mach4 much better than 3 in
many ways but would like to
have it even better. there
are a few annoying
"features" that i would like
to see improved. if asking
for that is "doing all the
complaining" i think you are
a hypersensitive jerk.
On
10/21/2021 3:59 PM, mike
allen wrote:
???
??? My post was not aimed at
you John . It was aimed at
the two folks doing all the
complaining? . No one is
here forcing them to use
Mach , but just cause
someone is having a bad hair
day or what
???
??? ever is no excuse to
slam the developer of the
program . Brian is here
occasionally to answer
questions & maybe take
bug reports . If you don't
like the way the program was
wrote them go write your own
program !!
???
??? animal
On
10/21/2021 11:41 AM, John
McGovern via groups.io
wrote:
Please take me out of
this conversation. I've
tried everything I know how
to do. I was never in this
topic.
Sent
from my T-Mobile 5G Device
-------- Original
message --------
Date: 10/21/21 12:13 PM
(GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [MachCNC]
saved files
??? ??? is anyone forcing
you guys to use Mach ?
??? ??? animal
On
10/21/2021 3:53 AM, Tony
Smith wrote:
Of course
it's not a good place, as
I said the Mach devs are
pretty clueless about how
to organise things under
Windows.
Programs like Mach4
are the answer to "Why
is Windows security so
shit?".
Tony
i have never had
to find the location
of mru file list
because most apps i
have used offer the
option of deleting an
entry if it is not
found. it is in
machine.ini which does
not seem like a good
place.
On 10/20/2021
7:57 PM, Tony Smith
wrote:
Apparently
invisible on
Spencers PC.
?
Someone
should tell
the Mach devs
about how this
new-fangled
Windows stuff
is supposed to
work.? I mean
it¡¯s only been
about 30
years.
?
Tony
?
?
?
It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file
in your
profile folder
under
C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles
?
?
What
secret?? No-one
cares.
?
I¡¯ve
put MRU lists
into just about
everything I¡¯ve
ever written,
and never once
put in an option
to clear it, nor
did any one
ask.? It really
is a very low
priority.? Hell,
I remember when
MRUs became the
big new thing,
lol.
?
People
only care when
you don¡¯t want
your wife to see
the ¡°special
interest¡± videos
you¡¯ve been
watching, she
may ask about
your sudden
interest in
basket weaving.
?
Not
surprised the
MRU isn¡¯t in the
registry, the
Mach dev are
still living in
the DOS days.?
Given that as
before take a
rummage thru the
Mach4 folder,
there will be
some sort of
setting files
(,ini, .dat?)
that has the
list.? The
modified date
should be recent
as it¡¯ll be
edited every
time you fire up
Mach4.? Whether
you can write a
little script to
modify that, who
knows.
?
Wouldn¡¯t
surprise me if
it¡¯s tacked onto
the machine
settings file.
?
File
a request with
the Mach devs,
nothing will
happen but
anyway.
?
Tony
?
?
?
?
and why is this
a well kept
secret? the
recent files
list is bullshit
without the
ability to edit
it.
right
clicking does
nothing nor
can i find the
files in the
registry. it i
a severe lack
to not allow
users to get
rid of this
garbage if
they want to.
i understand
the fat that
some people
might want to
keep files
from external
sources in the
list but what
about those
who want to
get rid of the
garbage. there
has to be a
way to get rid
of this or
clear the
whole cache.
On
10/20/2021
5:25 PM, John
McGovern via wrote:
Sent from my T-Mobile 5G
Device
-------- Original message --------
Date: 10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files
I
meant some
programs let
you clear the
list, eg in MS
Office you can
right-click
the list and
it'll have a
"Clear
recents"
option,
something like
that.
I
very much
doubt Mach4
does this,
If
the list does
wind up in the
registry, what
you can do is
delete all of
the files,
then save the
Key (registry
folder) to a
file (will
have a reg
extension).?
If you then
open that file
in the future
it will ask if
you want to
replace the
current Key
with it, thus
clearing the
list.
Oh,
and before I
said to search
for 'Values'
in the
registry,
should have
said 'Data'.
?
what is
this
"occasional
program" and
where do i get
it?
On
10/20/2021
2:42 PM, Tony
Smith wrote:
It's
called an MRU
(Most Recently
Used) list,
and is
typically
stored in the
Windows
registry.
Of
course given
the Mach devs
don't have
much of a clue
about where
you are
supposed to
put stuff
(C;\Mach4?
Sure!), their
list could be
anywhere, but
probably in
the install
folder where
they?dump
everything
else.
Use
regedit to
search for one
of the files
on the list,
it can search
for 3 types of
things so just
leave 'Value'
ticked.? Try a
partial match
as well.? This
will be a bit
slow as Values
aren't
indexed..
The
reasons why
no-one clears
out the list
is because it
wastes time,
and the files
may only be
temporarily
unavailable
(different
flash drive,
network drive
etc) so wiping
the 'dead'
ones will
annoy a
different
bunch of
people.? There
is the
occasional
program
that'll let
you clear the
list, not all
that common.
?
i wrote before with no reply. Mach four
maintains a
recent fiels
list
but there is
no wa to get
rid of old
files. this
make a logn
useless
list of
current files
mixed with a
bunch of old
deleted stuff.
makes it
a pain to
choose the
right file.
easier to have
a working
folder and do
the management
yourself,
where is this
list found and
can it be
edited?
or better yet
why cant mach4
automatically
delete files
that are nor
found ?
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also if there is not good rigidity the bit will chatter and make
its own mess. ideally if you are moving from with grain to across
grain you should change the feed speed. but i doubt that is
possible in vcarve. best you can do is get the machine really
rigid and use high quality bits. don't expect the perfection that
you can get in metal or plastic from wood.
i have been fighting wood for years making mechanical parts.
unless i slow things down to the point that i am making $10 an
hour, perfection is just not possible.plastic is no problem but
wood ???
On 10/21/2021 8:52 PM, Paul Tegler via
groups.io wrote:
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personally, looking at the varied depths of the cuts, and the
slightly segments curves of the letters...I think you have a bit
of mechanical flex/slop/freeplay in the drive line or Z
headstock
BTDT .? A couple thousandths of freeplay will let the bit jump
around a bit leaving odd curves and varied depths of cut
ptegler
On 10/21/2021 10:35 PM, John McGovern
via groups.io wrote:
Hey let me ask yall a question. Does mach3 have anything
to do with the smoothness of a cut. I just cut some letters
and they are ragged looking. I'm using VCarve Pro. Is the
vcarve the place I should be looking instead.
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I can understand your frustration. Maybe now that we've discussed the heck out of it, they'll pay some attention. Though from what I understand, this is not actually an official Mach group. If I'm correct, we're lucky that they spend any time here at all. Heck, they could call it "recentfiles.ini" or something that makes sense, right? I've given up on talking to the Microsoft folks, myself. Been using their stuff for quite a long time. Hope the Mach folks don't do the same sorts of idiotic messing about that MS does.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 10:37:35 PM CDT, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:
the first thing i did was read RTFM and there was no mention. then i looked for a file that made sense to hold the file list. it did not occur to me that it would be in machine.ini. to get rid of a file in the list you need to open machine.ini in the working profile with mach4 closed and delete it and then restart mach4 because it apparently keeps a local file of machine.ini and writes it back i still would like to have mach4 ask if you want to remove the file from the list if it is not found, that would serve everyone's needs without you having to remember the file and edit yourself while mach4 is closed. i hate these sorts of work arounds that have to be remembered. i also would like the most recent file to be moved to the top of the list as it is in other programs i use.
On 10/21/2021 8:29 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:
I don't think I'd go with dumb, but a more specific question would give the knowledgeable folks a better idea of what you needed. Why do you think I'm not even asking any questions? I don't know enough about the software to even ask a good question! And any question I did ask could probably be best answered with some variation of RTFI! That's "Read the Freaking Instructions!" in case you weren't aware of that acronym. Windows has a location that it keeps recent files, as does MS Word, so I would expect Mach does as well. Couldn't tell you any longer where the previous two keep theirs, and have never run any version of Mach. Though I expect I could figure it out if I needed to. I would expect that Mach would keep that listed updated if you delete those files through Mach, which might help you. Or maybe not. Windows has changed an awful lot since I first started playing with it.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
you are right i pointed out the problem but did not specifically ask for a solution. i guess it was dumb of me to assume that someone would answer without an explicit question.
On 10/21/2021 7:52 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:
This thread, saved files, was started at 2:33 pm October 20th, according to my history.?
You had another thread, recently opened, you started October 16. I don't see where anyone responded to it, but you didn't really ask anything but if there were updates to Mach4.?
I'd suggest if you want answers, you ask an overt question. Might work better for you. Unfortunately, I can't answer them because I don't yet have Mach in any version. Just sort of following along wondering if it would do anything I need done in the future.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
my history shows saturday or 5 days ago as i said. i believe i asked this a while ago as well.
On 10/21/2021 7:15 PM, mike allen wrote:
??? ??? you don't have to justify anything to me . Check your email history . You started this thread yesterday according to my history . Wasted enough bandwith here . Just mind your manners & we'll be fine . I'm done with this . ??? animal
i posted the question probably 5 days ago and maybe in the past a well. i spent a lot of time trying to figure this out myself before even posting.? i also mentioned a serious bug months ago and nothing was done about that either.
On 10/21/2021 6:40 PM, mike allen wrote:
??? ??? I'm not here to police , I'm here to learn . I just get sick of folks that start whining as soon as something doesn't go their way .
??? ??? " and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it "
??? ??? You had a problem & posted about it & then kept slamming about it for a day & never even gave the mach folks a chance to get you a answer? .
??? ??? animal
i don't know if you are referring to me as one of the two doing all the complaining. i was just asking for a reasonable solution. i generally find mach4 much better than 3 in many ways but would like to have it even better. there are a few annoying "features" that i would like to see improved. if asking for that is "doing all the complaining" i think you are a hypersensitive jerk.
On 10/21/2021 3:59 PM, mike allen wrote:
??? ??? My post was not aimed at you John . It was aimed at the two folks doing all the complaining? . No one is here forcing them to use Mach , but just cause someone is having a bad hair day or what
??? ??? ever is no excuse to slam the developer of the program . Brian is here occasionally to answer questions & maybe take bug reports . If you don't like the way the program was wrote them go write your own program !! ??? ??? animal
On 10/21/2021 11:41 AM, John McGovern via groups.io wrote:
Please take me out of this conversation. I've tried everything I know how to do. I was never in this topic.
Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device
-------- Original message -------- Date: 10/21/21 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files
??? ??? is anyone forcing you guys to use Mach ? ??? ??? animal
On 10/21/2021 3:53 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
Of course it's not a good place, as I said the Mach devs are pretty clueless about how to organise things under Windows.
Programs like Mach4 are the answer to "Why is Windows security so shit?".
Tony
i have never had to find the location of mru file list because most apps i have used offer the option of deleting an entry if it is not found. it is in machine.ini which does not seem like a good place.
On 10/20/2021 7:57 PM, Tony Smith wrote:
Apparently invisible on Spencers PC. ? Someone should tell the Mach devs about how this new-fangled Windows stuff is supposed to work.? I mean it¡¯s only been about 30 years. ? Tony ? ? ? It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file in your profile folder under C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles ? ? What secret?? No-one cares. ? I¡¯ve put MRU lists into just about everything I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in an option to clear it, nor did any one ask.? It really is a very low priority.? Hell, I remember when MRUs became the big new thing, lol. ? People only care when you don¡¯t want your wife to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos you¡¯ve been watching, she may ask about your sudden interest in basket weaving. ? Not surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the registry, the Mach dev are still living in the DOS days.? Given that as before take a rummage thru the Mach4 folder, there will be some sort of setting files (,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The modified date should be recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time you fire up Mach4.? Whether you can write a little script to modify that, who knows. ? Wouldn¡¯t surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the machine settings file. ? File a request with the Mach devs, nothing will happen but anyway. ? Tony ? ? ? ? and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it. right clicking does nothing nor can i find the files in the registry. it i a severe lack to not allow users to get rid of this garbage if they want to. i understand the fat that some people might want to keep files from external sources in the list but what about those who want to get rid of the garbage. there has to be a way to get rid of this or clear the whole cache. On 10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern via wrote: Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device -------- Original message -------- Date: 10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files I meant some programs let you clear the list, eg in MS Office you can right-click the list and it'll have a "Clear recents" option, something like that. I very much doubt Mach4 does this, If the list does wind up in the registry, what you can do is delete all of the files, then save the Key (registry folder) to a file (will have a reg extension).? If you then open that file in the future it will ask if you want to replace the current Key with it, thus clearing the list. Oh, and before I said to search for 'Values' in the registry, should have said 'Data'. ? what is this "occasional program" and where do i get it? On 10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony Smith wrote: It's called an MRU (Most Recently Used) list, and is typically stored in the Windows registry. Of course given the Mach devs don't have much of a clue about where you are supposed to put stuff (C;\Mach4? Sure!), their list could be anywhere, but probably in the install folder where they?dump everything else. Use regedit to search for one of the files on the list, it can search for 3 types of things so just leave 'Value' ticked.? Try a partial match as well.? This will be a bit slow as Values aren't indexed.. The reasons why no-one clears out the list is because it wastes time, and the files may only be temporarily unavailable (different flash drive, network drive etc) so wiping the 'dead' ones will annoy a different bunch of people.? There is the occasional program that'll let you clear the list, not all that common. ? i wrote before with no reply. Mach four maintains a recent fiels list
but there is no wa to get rid of old files. this make a logn useless
list of current files mixed with a bunch of old deleted stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the right file. easier to have a working folder and do
the management yourself, where is this list found and can it be edited?
or better yet why cant mach4 automatically delete files that are nor found ?
|
personally, looking at the varied depths of the cuts, and the
slightly segments curves of the letters...I think you have a bit
of mechanical flex/slop/freeplay in the drive line or Z headstock
BTDT .? A couple thousandths of freeplay will let the bit jump
around a bit leaving odd curves and varied depths of cut
ptegler
On 10/21/2021 10:35 PM, John McGovern
via groups.io wrote:
Hey let me ask yall a question. Does mach3 have anything
to do with the smoothness of a cut. I just cut some letters and
they are ragged looking. I'm using VCarve Pro. Is the vcarve the
place I should be looking instead.
Attachments:
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Paul Tegler
ptegler@...
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that was my point. I walk up to the table, plug in my big a__ 240
cable, flip the switches on, swing the monitor arm out, turn on
the computer, whip something up in Vcarve, , fire up Mach 3 app
and load the gcode and off we go. Have never mod'ed or changed or
adjust anything on the CNC table in 4-5 years (roughly 60-70
projects)
no fiddling involved. also why I haven't bothered upgrading to 4?
as my sys all works just fine (ain't broke don't fix it)
ptegler
On 10/21/2021 11:13 PM, Tony Smith
wrote:
So
the person who no longer uses Mach replied (and it was
enough for the OP to have figured out their problem), while
all the current users ignore the question.
?
Great
community y¡¯all got there.
?
And
this comment of yours: ¡°..am still running under XP even.
All hardware is cobbled home brew and works as expected.¡± is
why I don¡¯t use Mach any more, sometimes you just get tired
of all the crap you need to do to keep things running.? I
still have one Mach3 box, a spare for my brothers router
(which he rarely uses and too lazy to convert.? He¡¯s got the
new controller).
?
Tony
?
?
?
...have to wonder if your not even using MACHx any longer why
stay here and add little to the conversations? (only trash the
asset)
I have well over 1,000 runtime hrs under MACH3 on my big a__
router table and Lathe/mill (combined time)
Yes I've written many macros and redesigned some screens. I've
never had a crash or issue with any machine.
..am still running under XP even. All hardware is cobbled home
brew and works as expected.
As to the old files.... If you are clueless to Win ops...yes
perhaps convoluted. But not an issue with a little google look
up.
ptegler
what do you use instead of mach?
On 10/20/2021 8:08 PM, Tony Smith
wrote:
I no longer even run
Mach3, didn¡¯t care much for Mach4.
?
Even then I had a
fair idea of where it would be, but apparently you
needed spoon feeding rather than ¡°either registry or
file in Mach4 folder¡±.
?
Ah well.
?
Tony
?
?
?
thanks for someone finally answering this.
On 10/20/2021 7:23 PM, Andy Wander
wrote:
It¡¯s in
the Machine.ini file in your profile folder under
C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles
?
?
What secret?? No-one cares.
?
I¡¯ve put MRU lists into just about
everything I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in an
option to clear it, nor did any one ask.? It really is a
very low priority.? Hell, I remember when MRUs became
the big new thing, lol.
?
People only care when you don¡¯t want
your wife to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos you¡¯ve
been watching, she may ask about your sudden interest in
basket weaving.
?
Not surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the
registry, the Mach dev are still living in the DOS
days.? Given that as before take a rummage thru the
Mach4 folder, there will be some sort of setting files
(,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The modified date
should be recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time you fire
up Mach4.? Whether you can write a little script to
modify that, who knows.
?
Wouldn¡¯t surprise me if it¡¯s tacked
onto the machine settings file.
?
File a request with the Mach devs,
nothing will happen but anyway.
?
Tony
?
?
?
?
and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files
list is bullshit without the ability to edit it.
right clicking does nothing nor can i find the files
in the registry. it i a severe lack to not allow users
to get rid of this garbage if they want to. i
understand the fat that some people might want to keep
files from external sources in the list but what about
those who want to get rid of the garbage. there has to
be a way to get rid of this or clear the whole cache.
On 10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John
McGovern via groups.io wrote:
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from my T-Mobile 5G Device
--------
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Date:
10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject:
Re: [MachCNC] saved files
I meant some programs let you
clear the list, eg in MS Office you can
right-click the list and it'll have a "Clear
recents" option, something like that.
I very much doubt Mach4 does
this,
If the list does wind up in
the registry, what you can do is delete all of
the files, then save the Key (registry folder)
to a file (will have a reg extension).? If you
then open that file in the future it will ask if
you want to replace the current Key with it,
thus clearing the list.
Oh, and before I said to
search for 'Values' in the registry, should have
said 'Data'.
?
what is this "occasional program" and where
do i get it?
On 10/20/2021 2:42 PM,
Tony Smith wrote:
It's called an MRU
(Most Recently Used) list, and is
typically stored in the Windows
registry.
Of course given the
Mach devs don't have much of a clue
about where you are supposed to put
stuff (C;\Mach4? Sure!), their list
could be anywhere, but probably in the
install folder where they?dump
everything else.
Use regedit to
search for one of the files on the
list, it can search for 3 types of
things so just leave 'Value' ticked.?
Try a partial match as well.? This
will be a bit slow as Values aren't
indexed..
The reasons why
no-one clears out the list is because
it wastes time, and the files may only
be temporarily unavailable (different
flash drive, network drive etc) so
wiping the 'dead' ones will annoy a
different bunch of people.? There is
the occasional program that'll let you
clear the list, not all that common.
?
i wrote
before with no reply. Mach four
maintains a recent fiels list
but there is no wa to get rid of old
files. this make a logn useless
list of current files mixed with a
bunch of old deleted stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the right file.
easier to have a working folder and
do
the management yourself, where is
this list found and can it be
edited?
or better yet why cant mach4
automatically delete files that are
nor found ?
--
Paul Tegler
ptegler@...
|
the first thing i did was read RTFM and there was no mention.
then i looked for a file that made sense to hold the file list. it
did not occur to me that it would be in machine.ini.
to get rid of a file in the list you need to open machine.ini in
the working profile with mach4 closed and delete it and then
restart mach4 because it apparently keeps a local file of
machine.ini and writes it back
i still would like to have mach4 ask if you want to remove the
file from the list if it is not found, that would serve everyone's
needs without you having to remember the file and edit yourself
while mach4 is closed. i hate these sorts of work arounds that
have to be remembered. i also would like the most recent file to
be moved to the top of the list as it is in other programs i use.
On 10/21/2021 8:29 PM, Bill in OKC too
via groups.io wrote:
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I don't think I'd go with dumb, but a more specific question
would give the knowledgeable folks a better idea of what you
needed. Why do you think I'm not even asking any questions? I
don't know enough about the software to even ask a good
question! And any question I did ask could probably be best
answered with some variation of RTFI! That's "Read the Freaking
Instructions!" in case you weren't aware of that acronym.
Windows has a location that it keeps recent files, as does MS
Word, so I would expect Mach does as well. Couldn't tell you any
longer where the previous two keep theirs, and have never run
any version of Mach. Though I expect I could figure it out if I
needed to. I would expect that Mach would keep that listed
updated if you delete those files through Mach, which might help
you. Or maybe not. Windows has changed an awful lot since I
first started playing with it.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet,
balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take
orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a
new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal,
fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
you are right i pointed out the problem but did not
specifically ask for a solution. i guess it was dumb
of me to assume that someone would answer without an
explicit question.
On 10/21/2021
7:52 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:
This thread, saved files, was started at 2:33
pm October 20th, according to my history.?
You had another thread, recently opened, you
started October 16. I don't see where anyone
responded to it, but you didn't really ask
anything but if there were updates to Mach4.?
I'd suggest if you want answers, you ask an
overt question. Might work better for you.
Unfortunately, I can't answer them because I
don't yet have Mach in any version. Just sort of
following along wondering if it would do
anything I need done in the future.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers,
MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human
being should be able to change a
diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher
a hog, conn a ship, design a building,
write a sonnet, balance
accounts,
build a wall, set a bone, comfort the
dying, take orders,
give
orders, cooperate, act alone, solve
equations, analyze a new
problem,
pitch manure, program a computer, cook
a tasty meal, fight
efficiently,
die gallantly. Specialization is for
insects.
LAZARUS
LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
my history shows saturday or 5 days ago
as i said. i believe i asked this a
while ago as well.
On
10/21/2021 7:15 PM, mike allen wrote:
??? ??? you don't have to justify
anything to me . Check your email
history . You started this thread
yesterday according to my history .
Wasted enough bandwith here . Just mind
your manners & we'll be fine . I'm
done with this .
??? animal
i posted the question probably 5 days
ago and maybe in the past a well. i
spent a lot of time trying to figure
this out myself before even posting.? i
also mentioned a serious bug months ago
and nothing was done about that either.
On
10/21/2021 6:40 PM, mike allen wrote:
??? ??? I'm not here to police , I'm
here to learn . I just get sick of folks
that start whining as soon as something
doesn't go their way .
??? ??? " and why is this a well kept
secret? the recent files list is
bullshit without the ability to edit it
"
??? ??? You had a problem & posted
about it & then kept slamming about
it for a day & never even gave the
mach folks a chance to get you a answer?
.
??? ??? animal
i don't know if you are referring to me
as one of the two doing all the
complaining. i was just asking for a
reasonable solution. i generally find
mach4 much better than 3 in many ways
but would like to have it even better.
there are a few annoying "features" that
i would like to see improved. if asking
for that is "doing all the complaining"
i think you are a hypersensitive jerk.
On
10/21/2021 3:59 PM, mike allen wrote:
???
??? My post was not aimed at you John .
It was aimed at the two folks doing all
the complaining? . No one is here
forcing them to use Mach , but just
cause someone is having a bad hair day
or what
???
??? ever is no excuse to slam the
developer of the program . Brian is here
occasionally to answer questions &
maybe take bug reports . If you don't
like the way the program was wrote them
go write your own program !!
???
??? animal
On
10/21/2021 11:41 AM, John McGovern via
groups.io wrote:
Please take me out of this
conversation. I've tried everything I
know how to do. I was never in this
topic.
Sent
from my T-Mobile 5G Device
-------- Original message --------
Date: 10/21/21 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files
??? ??? is anyone forcing you guys to
use Mach ?
??? ??? animal
On
10/21/2021 3:53 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
Of course it's not a good
place, as I said the Mach devs are
pretty clueless about how to organise
things under Windows.
Programs like Mach4 are the
answer to "Why is Windows security
so shit?".
Tony
i have never had to find the
location of mru file list because
most apps i have used offer the
option of deleting an entry if it
is not found. it is in machine.ini
which does not seem like a good
place.
On 10/20/2021 7:57 PM, Tony
Smith wrote:
Apparently
invisible on Spencers PC.
?
Someone
should tell the Mach devs
about how this new-fangled
Windows stuff is supposed
to work.? I mean it¡¯s only
been about 30 years.
?
Tony
?
?
?
It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file
in your profile folder
under
C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles
?
?
What
secret?? No-one cares.
?
I¡¯ve
put MRU lists into just
about everything I¡¯ve ever
written, and never once put
in an option to clear it,
nor did any one ask.? It
really is a very low
priority.? Hell, I remember
when MRUs became the big new
thing, lol.
?
People
only care when you don¡¯t
want your wife to see the
¡°special interest¡± videos
you¡¯ve been watching, she
may ask about your sudden
interest in basket weaving.
?
Not
surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in
the registry, the Mach dev
are still living in the DOS
days.? Given that as before
take a rummage thru the
Mach4 folder, there will be
some sort of setting files
(,ini, .dat?) that has the
list.? The modified date
should be recent as it¡¯ll be
edited every time you fire
up Mach4.? Whether you can
write a little script to
modify that, who knows.
?
Wouldn¡¯t
surprise me if it¡¯s tacked
onto the machine settings
file.
?
File
a request with the Mach
devs, nothing will happen
but anyway.
?
Tony
?
?
?
?
and why is this a well kept
secret? the recent files
list is bullshit without the
ability to edit it.
right clicking does
nothing nor can i find the
files in the registry. it
i a severe lack to not
allow users to get rid of
this garbage if they want
to. i understand the fat
that some people might
want to keep files from
external sources in the
list but what about those
who want to get rid of the
garbage. there has to be a
way to get rid of this or
clear the whole cache.
On
10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John
McGovern via
wrote:
Sent from my T-Mobile 5G
Device
--------
Original message
--------
Date:
10/20/21 6:20 PM
(GMT-06:00)
Subject:
Re: [MachCNC] saved
files
I
meant some programs
let you clear the
list, eg in MS
Office you can
right-click the list
and it'll have a
"Clear recents"
option, something
like that.
I
very much doubt
Mach4 does this,
If
the list does wind
up in the registry,
what you can do is
delete all of the
files, then save the
Key (registry
folder) to a file
(will have a reg
extension).? If you
then open that file
in the future it
will ask if you want
to replace the
current Key with it,
thus clearing the
list.
Oh,
and before I said to
search for 'Values'
in the registry,
should have said
'Data'.
?
what is this
"occasional
program" and
where do i get
it?
On
10/20/2021
2:42 PM, Tony
Smith wrote:
It's
called an MRU
(Most Recently
Used) list,
and is
typically
stored in the
Windows
registry.
Of
course given
the Mach devs
don't have
much of a clue
about where
you are
supposed to
put stuff
(C;\Mach4?
Sure!), their
list could be
anywhere, but
probably in
the install
folder where
they?dump
everything
else.
Use
regedit to
search for one
of the files
on the list,
it can search
for 3 types of
things so just
leave 'Value'
ticked.? Try a
partial match
as well.? This
will be a bit
slow as Values
aren't
indexed..
The
reasons why
no-one clears
out the list
is because it
wastes time,
and the files
may only be
temporarily
unavailable
(different
flash drive,
network drive
etc) so wiping
the 'dead'
ones will
annoy a
different
bunch of
people.? There
is the
occasional
program
that'll let
you clear the
list, not all
that common.
?
i wrote before with no reply. Mach four
maintains a
recent fiels
list
but there is
no wa to get
rid of old
files. this
make a logn
useless
list of
current files
mixed with a
bunch of old
deleted stuff.
makes it
a pain to
choose the
right file.
easier to have
a working
folder and do
the management
yourself,
where is this
list found and
can it be
edited?
or better yet
why cant mach4
automatically
delete files
that are nor
found ?
|
I don't think I'd go with dumb, but a more specific question would give the knowledgeable folks a better idea of what you needed. Why do you think I'm not even asking any questions? I don't know enough about the software to even ask a good question! And any question I did ask could probably be best answered with some variation of RTFI! That's "Read the Freaking Instructions!" in case you weren't aware of that acronym. Windows has a location that it keeps recent files, as does MS Word, so I would expect Mach does as well. Couldn't tell you any longer where the previous two keep theirs, and have never run any version of Mach. Though I expect I could figure it out if I needed to. I would expect that Mach would keep that listed updated if you delete those files through Mach, which might help you. Or maybe not. Windows has changed an awful lot since I first started playing with it.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
On Thursday, October 21, 2021, 10:08:02 PM CDT, spencer@... <spencer@...> wrote:
you are right i pointed out the problem but did not specifically ask for a solution. i guess it was dumb of me to assume that someone would answer without an explicit question.
On 10/21/2021 7:52 PM, Bill in OKC too via groups.io wrote:
This thread, saved files, was started at 2:33 pm October 20th, according to my history.?
You had another thread, recently opened, you started October 16. I don't see where anyone responded to it, but you didn't really ask anything but if there were updates to Mach4.?
I'd suggest if you want answers, you ask an overt question. Might work better for you. Unfortunately, I can't answer them because I don't yet have Mach in any version. Just sort of following along wondering if it would do anything I need done in the future.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion,
butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance
accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new
problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG (Robert A. Heinlein)
my history shows saturday or 5 days ago as i said. i believe i asked this a while ago as well.
On 10/21/2021 7:15 PM, mike allen wrote:
??? ??? you don't have to justify anything to me . Check your email history . You started this thread yesterday according to my history . Wasted enough bandwith here . Just mind your manners & we'll be fine . I'm done with this . ??? animal
i posted the question probably 5 days ago and maybe in the past a well. i spent a lot of time trying to figure this out myself before even posting.? i also mentioned a serious bug months ago and nothing was done about that either.
On 10/21/2021 6:40 PM, mike allen wrote:
??? ??? I'm not here to police , I'm here to learn . I just get sick of folks that start whining as soon as something doesn't go their way .
??? ??? " and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it "
??? ??? You had a problem & posted about it & then kept slamming about it for a day & never even gave the mach folks a chance to get you a answer? .
??? ??? animal
i don't know if you are referring to me as one of the two doing all the complaining. i was just asking for a reasonable solution. i generally find mach4 much better than 3 in many ways but would like to have it even better. there are a few annoying "features" that i would like to see improved. if asking for that is "doing all the complaining" i think you are a hypersensitive jerk.
On 10/21/2021 3:59 PM, mike allen wrote:
??? ??? My post was not aimed at you John . It was aimed at the two folks doing all the complaining? . No one is here forcing them to use Mach , but just cause someone is having a bad hair day or what
??? ??? ever is no excuse to slam the developer of the program . Brian is here occasionally to answer questions & maybe take bug reports . If you don't like the way the program was wrote them go write your own program !! ??? ??? animal
On 10/21/2021 11:41 AM, John McGovern via groups.io wrote:
Please take me out of this conversation. I've tried everything I know how to do. I was never in this topic.
Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device
-------- Original message -------- Date: 10/21/21 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files
??? ??? is anyone forcing you guys to use Mach ? ??? ??? animal
On 10/21/2021 3:53 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
Of course it's not a good place, as I said the Mach devs are pretty clueless about how to organise things under Windows.
Programs like Mach4 are the answer to "Why is Windows security so shit?".
Tony
i have never had to find the location of mru file list because most apps i have used offer the option of deleting an entry if it is not found. it is in machine.ini which does not seem like a good place.
On 10/20/2021 7:57 PM, Tony Smith wrote:
Apparently invisible on Spencers PC. ? Someone should tell the Mach devs about how this new-fangled Windows stuff is supposed to work.? I mean it¡¯s only been about 30 years. ? Tony ? ? ? It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file in your profile folder under C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles ? ? What secret?? No-one cares. ? I¡¯ve put MRU lists into just about everything I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in an option to clear it, nor did any one ask.? It really is a very low priority.? Hell, I remember when MRUs became the big new thing, lol. ? People only care when you don¡¯t want your wife to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos you¡¯ve been watching, she may ask about your sudden interest in basket weaving. ? Not surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the registry, the Mach dev are still living in the DOS days.? Given that as before take a rummage thru the Mach4 folder, there will be some sort of setting files (,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The modified date should be recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time you fire up Mach4.? Whether you can write a little script to modify that, who knows. ? Wouldn¡¯t surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the machine settings file. ? File a request with the Mach devs, nothing will happen but anyway. ? Tony ? ? ? ? and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it. right clicking does nothing nor can i find the files in the registry. it i a severe lack to not allow users to get rid of this garbage if they want to. i understand the fat that some people might want to keep files from external sources in the list but what about those who want to get rid of the garbage. there has to be a way to get rid of this or clear the whole cache. On 10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern via wrote: Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device -------- Original message -------- Date: 10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files I meant some programs let you clear the list, eg in MS Office you can right-click the list and it'll have a "Clear recents" option, something like that. I very much doubt Mach4 does this, If the list does wind up in the registry, what you can do is delete all of the files, then save the Key (registry folder) to a file (will have a reg extension).? If you then open that file in the future it will ask if you want to replace the current Key with it, thus clearing the list. Oh, and before I said to search for 'Values' in the registry, should have said 'Data'. ? what is this "occasional program" and where do i get it? On 10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony Smith wrote: It's called an MRU (Most Recently Used) list, and is typically stored in the Windows registry. Of course given the Mach devs don't have much of a clue about where you are supposed to put stuff (C;\Mach4? Sure!), their list could be anywhere, but probably in the install folder where they?dump everything else. Use regedit to search for one of the files on the list, it can search for 3 types of things so just leave 'Value' ticked.? Try a partial match as well.? This will be a bit slow as Values aren't indexed.. The reasons why no-one clears out the list is because it wastes time, and the files may only be temporarily unavailable (different flash drive, network drive etc) so wiping the 'dead' ones will annoy a different bunch of people.? There is the occasional program that'll let you clear the list, not all that common. ? i wrote before with no reply. Mach four maintains a recent fiels list
but there is no wa to get rid of old files. this make a logn useless
list of current files mixed with a bunch of old deleted stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the right file. easier to have a working folder and do
the management yourself, where is this list found and can it be edited?
or better yet why cant mach4 automatically delete files that are nor found ?
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Kind of an interesting subject.? Reminds me of an issue with AlibreCAD a while ago.? If one of the files in the history was missing it trashed the entire history.? So if you moved the file outside the IDE it had some pretty lousy side effects.? But it didn't show up that way.? My files all happened to be on the file server. ?Because the P: drive wasn't available the system automatically trashed the history. ? We brought up the issue.? I don't think it's been fixed yet.? Don't remember. ? With this subject in mind I loaded my old Codewright text editor from Borland (circa 1991) that was one of the first IDE systems that colourized text based on the language.? It has a side by side compare that is still IMHO, unmatched in any other IDE. ? Anyway I renamed one of the files in the history (to make it go away) and then range it again.? The file name was still in the list.? I then tried to load that file and it just loaded a blank document with that name. ? Move forward to Notepad++ (Free text software that handles both linux and dos file formats) that also colours text etc.? Found a file half way in the list.? Closed Notepad++ and then renamed that file.? Restarted Nodepad++ and sure enough the file was still there.? But this time when I clicked on it I was told the file was no longer there and would I like to create one with that name.? I said no, and the file vanished from the list. ? That's the behavior we want.? We really don't want a file removed from a list because it might be on a dongle that has just been moved to get a copy of an updated gcode file or something else.? Then put the dongle back in and all the files are back.? So only if you try and access the file should it do anything with the history and otherwise it should just fall off the end of the list when it's at the bottom and new files are accessed. ? BTW.? My licensed MACH3 doesn't have a recently used file list. ? And LinuxCNC has the recent files list and throws up an error if you try and load a file on the list that is missing.? Stopping and restarting LinuxCNC does not remove that file from the list.? The only way to get rid of it, short of editing where the list lives, is to let it slip down and off the bottom of the list. ? John ? ?
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Yeah, might as well join the Linux forums. ? Your question gets ignored, then if someone does try to answer it a bunch of whiny little man-baby¡¯s turn up to complain about, well, I¡¯ve no idea what their problem is.? Their periods must have synced up or something. ? Tony ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Andy Wander
Sent: Friday, 22 October 2021 7:03 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files? At least Tony answered the OP, with some pretty good info. ? This site is pretty much useless at getting any info from the Mach folks-Brian drops by occasionally, but even that is not consistent. ? ? ? ...have to wonder if your not even using MACHx any longer why stay here and add little to the conversations? (only trash the asset) I have well over 1,000 runtime hrs under MACH3 on my big a__ router table and Lathe/mill (combined time)
Yes I've written many macros and redesigned some screens. I've never had a crash or issue with any machine.
..am still running under XP even. All hardware is cobbled home brew and works as expected. As to the old files.... If you are clueless to Win ops...yes perhaps convoluted. But not an issue with a little google look up. ptegler what do you use instead of mach? On 10/20/2021 8:08 PM, Tony Smith wrote: I no longer even run Mach3, didn¡¯t care much for Mach4. ? Even then I had a fair idea of where it would be, but apparently you needed spoon feeding rather than ¡°either registry or file in Mach4 folder¡±. ? Ah well. ? Tony ? ? ? thanks for someone finally answering this. On 10/20/2021 7:23 PM, Andy Wander wrote: It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file in your profile folder under C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles ? ? What secret?? No-one cares. ? I¡¯ve put MRU lists into just about everything I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in an option to clear it, nor did any one ask.? It really is a very low priority.? Hell, I remember when MRUs became the big new thing, lol. ? People only care when you don¡¯t want your wife to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos you¡¯ve been watching, she may ask about your sudden interest in basket weaving. ? Not surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the registry, the Mach dev are still living in the DOS days.? Given that as before take a rummage thru the Mach4 folder, there will be some sort of setting files (,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The modified date should be recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time you fire up Mach4.? Whether you can write a little script to modify that, who knows. ? Wouldn¡¯t surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the machine settings file. ? File a request with the Mach devs, nothing will happen but anyway. ? Tony ? ? ? ? and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it. right clicking does nothing nor can i find the files in the registry. it i a severe lack to not allow users to get rid of this garbage if they want to. i understand the fat that some people might want to keep files from external sources in the list but what about those who want to get rid of the garbage. there has to be a way to get rid of this or clear the whole cache. On 10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern via groups.io wrote: Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device -------- Original message -------- Date: 10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files I meant some programs let you clear the list, eg in MS Office you can right-click the list and it'll have a "Clear recents" option, something like that. I very much doubt Mach4 does this, If the list does wind up in the registry, what you can do is delete all of the files, then save the Key (registry folder) to a file (will have a reg extension).? If you then open that file in the future it will ask if you want to replace the current Key with it, thus clearing the list. Oh, and before I said to search for 'Values' in the registry, should have said 'Data'. ? what is this "occasional program" and where do i get it? On 10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony Smith wrote: It's called an MRU (Most Recently Used) list, and is typically stored in the Windows registry. Of course given the Mach devs don't have much of a clue about where you are supposed to put stuff (C;\Mach4? Sure!), their list could be anywhere, but probably in the install folder where they?dump everything else. Use regedit to search for one of the files on the list, it can search for 3 types of things so just leave 'Value' ticked.? Try a partial match as well.? This will be a bit slow as Values aren't indexed.. The reasons why no-one clears out the list is because it wastes time, and the files may only be temporarily unavailable (different flash drive, network drive etc) so wiping the 'dead' ones will annoy a different bunch of people.? There is the occasional program that'll let you clear the list, not all that common. ? i wrote before with no reply. Mach four maintains a recent fiels list
but there is no wa to get rid of old files. this make a logn useless
list of current files mixed with a bunch of old deleted stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the right file. easier to have a working folder and do
the management yourself, where is this list found and can it be edited?
or better yet why cant mach4 automatically delete files that are nor found ?
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So the person who no longer uses Mach replied (and it was enough for the OP to have figured out their problem), while all the current users ignore the question. ? Great community y¡¯all got there. ? And this comment of yours: ¡°..am still running under XP even. All hardware is cobbled home brew and works as expected.¡± is why I don¡¯t use Mach any more, sometimes you just get tired of all the crap you need to do to keep things running.? I still have one Mach3 box, a spare for my brothers router (which he rarely uses and too lazy to convert.? He¡¯s got the new controller). ? Tony ? ?
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of ptegler
Sent: Friday, 22 October 2021 6:12 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files? ...have to wonder if your not even using MACHx any longer why stay here and add little to the conversations? (only trash the asset) I have well over 1,000 runtime hrs under MACH3 on my big a__ router table and Lathe/mill (combined time)
Yes I've written many macros and redesigned some screens. I've never had a crash or issue with any machine.
..am still running under XP even. All hardware is cobbled home brew and works as expected. As to the old files.... If you are clueless to Win ops...yes perhaps convoluted. But not an issue with a little google look up. ptegler what do you use instead of mach? On 10/20/2021 8:08 PM, Tony Smith wrote: I no longer even run Mach3, didn¡¯t care much for Mach4. ? Even then I had a fair idea of where it would be, but apparently you needed spoon feeding rather than ¡°either registry or file in Mach4 folder¡±. ? Ah well. ? Tony ? ? ? thanks for someone finally answering this. On 10/20/2021 7:23 PM, Andy Wander wrote: It¡¯s in the Machine.ini file in your profile folder under C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles ? ? What secret?? No-one cares. ? I¡¯ve put MRU lists into just about everything I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in an option to clear it, nor did any one ask.? It really is a very low priority.? Hell, I remember when MRUs became the big new thing, lol. ? People only care when you don¡¯t want your wife to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos you¡¯ve been watching, she may ask about your sudden interest in basket weaving. ? Not surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the registry, the Mach dev are still living in the DOS days.? Given that as before take a rummage thru the Mach4 folder, there will be some sort of setting files (,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The modified date should be recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time you fire up Mach4.? Whether you can write a little script to modify that, who knows. ? Wouldn¡¯t surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the machine settings file. ? File a request with the Mach devs, nothing will happen but anyway. ? Tony ? ? ? ? and why is this a well kept secret? the recent files list is bullshit without the ability to edit it. right clicking does nothing nor can i find the files in the registry. it i a severe lack to not allow users to get rid of this garbage if they want to. i understand the fat that some people might want to keep files from external sources in the list but what about those who want to get rid of the garbage. there has to be a way to get rid of this or clear the whole cache. On 10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern via groups.io wrote: Sent from my T-Mobile 5G Device -------- Original message -------- Date: 10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00) Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files I meant some programs let you clear the list, eg in MS Office you can right-click the list and it'll have a "Clear recents" option, something like that. I very much doubt Mach4 does this, If the list does wind up in the registry, what you can do is delete all of the files, then save the Key (registry folder) to a file (will have a reg extension).? If you then open that file in the future it will ask if you want to replace the current Key with it, thus clearing the list. Oh, and before I said to search for 'Values' in the registry, should have said 'Data'. ? what is this "occasional program" and where do i get it? On 10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony Smith wrote: It's called an MRU (Most Recently Used) list, and is typically stored in the Windows registry. Of course given the Mach devs don't have much of a clue about where you are supposed to put stuff (C;\Mach4? Sure!), their list could be anywhere, but probably in the install folder where they?dump everything else. Use regedit to search for one of the files on the list, it can search for 3 types of things so just leave 'Value' ticked.? Try a partial match as well.? This will be a bit slow as Values aren't indexed.. The reasons why no-one clears out the list is because it wastes time, and the files may only be temporarily unavailable (different flash drive, network drive etc) so wiping the 'dead' ones will annoy a different bunch of people.? There is the occasional program that'll let you clear the list, not all that common. ? i wrote before with no reply. Mach four maintains a recent fiels list
but there is no wa to get rid of old files. this make a logn useless
list of current files mixed with a bunch of old deleted stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the right file. easier to have a working folder and do
the management yourself, where is this list found and can it be edited?
or better yet why cant mach4 automatically delete files that are nor found ?
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??? ??? cool , so we're all good now ? Thanks Bill
??? ??? animal
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you are right i pointed out the problem but did not
specifically ask for a solution. i guess it was dumb of me to
assume that someone would answer without an explicit question.
On 10/21/2021 7:52 PM, Bill in OKC
too via groups.io wrote:
This thread, saved files, was started at 2:33 pm
October 20th, according to my history.?
You had another thread, recently opened, you started
October 16. I don't see where anyone responded to it, but
you didn't really ask anything but if there were updates
to Mach4.?
I'd suggest if you want answers, you ask an overt
question. Might work better for you. Unfortunately, I
can't answer them because I don't yet have Mach in any
version. Just sort of following along wondering if it
would do anything I need done in the future.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A
human being should be able to change a diaper,
plan an invasion,
butcher a hog,
conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet,
balance
accounts, build
a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take
orders,
give orders,
cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a
new
problem, pitch
manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal,
fight
efficiently,
die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG
(Robert A. Heinlein)
my history shows saturday or 5 days ago as i
said. i believe i asked this a while ago as well.
On
10/21/2021 7:15 PM, mike allen wrote:
??? ??? you don't have to justify anything to me
. Check your email history . You started this
thread yesterday according to my history . Wasted
enough bandwith here . Just mind your manners
& we'll be fine . I'm done with this .
??? animal
i posted the question probably 5 days ago and
maybe in the past a well. i spent a lot of time
trying to figure this out myself before even
posting.? i also mentioned a serious bug months
ago and nothing was done about that either.
On
10/21/2021 6:40 PM, mike allen wrote:
??? ??? I'm not here to police , I'm here to
learn . I just get sick of folks that start
whining as soon as something doesn't go their way
.
??? ??? " and why is this a well kept secret? the
recent files list is bullshit without the ability
to edit it "
??? ??? You had a problem & posted about it
& then kept slamming about it for a day &
never even gave the mach folks a chance to get you
a answer? .
??? ??? animal
i don't know if you are referring to me as one of
the two doing all the complaining. i was just
asking for a reasonable solution. i generally find
mach4 much better than 3 in many ways but would
like to have it even better. there are a few
annoying "features" that i would like to see
improved. if asking for that is "doing all the
complaining" i think you are a hypersensitive
jerk.
On
10/21/2021 3:59 PM, mike allen wrote:
???
??? My post was not aimed at you John . It was
aimed at the two folks doing all the complaining?
. No one is here forcing them to use Mach , but
just cause someone is having a bad hair day or
what
???
??? ever is no excuse to slam the developer of the
program . Brian is here occasionally to answer
questions & maybe take bug reports . If you
don't like the way the program was wrote them go
write your own program !!
???
??? animal
On
10/21/2021 11:41 AM, John McGovern via groups.io
wrote:
Please take me out of this conversation. I've
tried everything I know how to do. I was never in
this topic.
Sent
from my T-Mobile 5G Device
-------- Original message --------
Date: 10/21/21 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files
??? ??? is anyone forcing you guys to use Mach ?
??? ??? animal
On
10/21/2021 3:53 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
Of course it's not a good place, as
I said the Mach devs are pretty clueless about
how to organise things under Windows.
Programs like Mach4 are the answer to "Why
is Windows security so shit?".
Tony
i have never had to find the location of
mru file list because most apps i have used
offer the option of deleting an entry if it
is not found. it is in machine.ini which
does not seem like a good place.
On 10/20/2021 7:57 PM, Tony Smith
wrote:
Apparently
invisible on Spencers PC.
?
Someone
should tell the Mach devs about how
this new-fangled Windows stuff is
supposed to work.? I mean it¡¯s only
been about 30 years.
?
Tony
?
?
?
It¡¯s in the Machine.ini
file in your profile folder under
C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles
?
?
What
secret?? No-one cares.
?
I¡¯ve
put MRU lists into just about
everything I¡¯ve ever written, and
never once put in an option to clear
it, nor did any one ask.? It really is
a very low priority.? Hell, I remember
when MRUs became the big new thing,
lol.
?
People
only care when you don¡¯t want your
wife to see the ¡°special interest¡±
videos you¡¯ve been watching, she may
ask about your sudden interest in
basket weaving.
?
Not
surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the
registry, the Mach dev are still
living in the DOS days.? Given that as
before take a rummage thru the Mach4
folder, there will be some sort of
setting files (,ini, .dat?) that has
the list.? The modified date should be
recent as it¡¯ll be edited every time
you fire up Mach4.? Whether you can
write a little script to modify that,
who knows.
?
Wouldn¡¯t
surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the
machine settings file.
?
File
a request with the Mach devs, nothing
will happen but anyway.
?
Tony
?
?
?
?
and why is this a well kept secret?
the recent files list is bullshit
without the ability to edit it.
right clicking does nothing nor can
i find the files in the registry. it
i a severe lack to not allow users
to get rid of this garbage if they
want to. i understand the fat that
some people might want to keep files
from external sources in the list
but what about those who want to get
rid of the garbage. there has to be
a way to get rid of this or clear
the whole cache.
On
10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern
via
wrote:
Sent from my T-Mobile 5G
Device
--------
Original message --------
Date:
10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject:
Re: [MachCNC] saved files
I
meant some programs let you
clear the list, eg in MS
Office you can right-click the
list and it'll have a "Clear
recents" option, something
like that.
I
very much doubt Mach4 does
this,
If
the list does wind up in the
registry, what you can do is
delete all of the files, then
save the Key (registry folder)
to a file (will have a reg
extension).? If you then open
that file in the future it
will ask if you want to
replace the current Key with
it, thus clearing the list.
Oh,
and before I said to search
for 'Values' in the registry,
should have said 'Data'.
?
what is this "occasional
program" and where do i
get it?
On
10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony
Smith wrote:
It's
called an MRU (Most
Recently Used) list,
and is typically
stored in the
Windows registry.
Of
course given the
Mach devs don't have
much of a clue about
where you are
supposed to put
stuff (C;\Mach4?
Sure!), their list
could be anywhere,
but probably in the
install folder where
they?dump everything
else.
Use
regedit to search
for one of the files
on the list, it can
search for 3 types
of things so just
leave 'Value'
ticked.? Try a
partial match as
well.? This will be
a bit slow as Values
aren't indexed..
The
reasons why no-one
clears out the list
is because it wastes
time, and the files
may only be
temporarily
unavailable
(different flash
drive, network drive
etc) so wiping the
'dead' ones will
annoy a different
bunch of people.?
There is the
occasional program
that'll let you
clear the list, not
all that common.
?
i wrote before with no reply. Mach four
maintains a recent
fiels list
but there is no wa
to get rid of old
files. this make a
logn useless
list of current
files mixed with a
bunch of old
deleted stuff.
makes it
a pain to choose
the right file.
easier to have a
working folder and
do
the management
yourself, where is
this list found
and can it be
edited?
or better yet why
cant mach4
automatically
delete files that
are nor found ?
|
you are right i pointed out the problem but did not specifically
ask for a solution. i guess it was dumb of me to assume that
someone would answer without an explicit question.
On 10/21/2021 7:52 PM, Bill in OKC too
via groups.io wrote:
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This thread, saved files, was started at 2:33 pm October
20th, according to my history.?
You had another thread, recently opened, you started
October 16. I don't see where anyone responded to it, but
you didn't really ask anything but if there were updates to
Mach4.?
I'd suggest if you want answers, you ask an overt
question. Might work better for you. Unfortunately, I can't
answer them because I don't yet have Mach in any version.
Just sort of following along wondering if it would do
anything I need done in the future.
Bill in OKC
William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)
A
human being should be able to change a diaper,
plan an invasion,
butcher a hog,
conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet,
balance
accounts, build a
wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders,
cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a
new
problem, pitch
manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal,
fight
efficiently, die
gallantly. Specialization is for insects.
LAZARUS LONG
(Robert A. Heinlein)
my history shows saturday or 5 days ago as i said.
i believe i asked this a while ago as well.
On
10/21/2021 7:15 PM, mike allen wrote:
??? ??? you don't have to justify anything to me .
Check your email history . You started this thread
yesterday according to my history . Wasted enough
bandwith here . Just mind your manners & we'll
be fine . I'm done with this .
??? animal
i posted the question probably 5 days ago and maybe
in the past a well. i spent a lot of time trying to
figure this out myself before even posting.? i also
mentioned a serious bug months ago and nothing was
done about that either.
On
10/21/2021 6:40 PM, mike allen wrote:
??? ??? I'm not here to police , I'm here to learn
. I just get sick of folks that start whining as
soon as something doesn't go their way .
??? ??? " and why is this a well kept secret? the
recent files list is bullshit without the ability to
edit it "
??? ??? You had a problem & posted about it
& then kept slamming about it for a day &
never even gave the mach folks a chance to get you a
answer? .
??? ??? animal
i don't know if you are referring to me as one of
the two doing all the complaining. i was just asking
for a reasonable solution. i generally find mach4
much better than 3 in many ways but would like to
have it even better. there are a few annoying
"features" that i would like to see improved. if
asking for that is "doing all the complaining" i
think you are a hypersensitive jerk.
On
10/21/2021 3:59 PM, mike allen wrote:
???
??? My post was not aimed at you John . It was aimed
at the two folks doing all the complaining? . No one
is here forcing them to use Mach , but just cause
someone is having a bad hair day or what
???
??? ever is no excuse to slam the developer of the
program . Brian is here occasionally to answer
questions & maybe take bug reports . If you
don't like the way the program was wrote them go
write your own program !!
???
??? animal
On
10/21/2021 11:41 AM, John McGovern via groups.io
wrote:
Please take me out of this conversation. I've
tried everything I know how to do. I was never in
this topic.
Sent from
my T-Mobile 5G Device
-------- Original message --------
Date: 10/21/21 12:13 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject: Re: [MachCNC] saved files
??? ??? is anyone forcing you guys to use Mach ?
??? ??? animal
On
10/21/2021 3:53 AM, Tony Smith wrote:
Of course it's not a good place, as I
said the Mach devs are pretty clueless about how
to organise things under Windows.
Programs like Mach4 are the answer to "Why is
Windows security so shit?".
Tony
i have never had to find the location of
mru file list because most apps i have used
offer the option of deleting an entry if it is
not found. it is in machine.ini which does not
seem like a good place.
On 10/20/2021 7:57 PM, Tony Smith wrote:
Apparently
invisible on Spencers PC.
?
Someone
should tell the Mach devs about how
this new-fangled Windows stuff is
supposed to work.? I mean it¡¯s only
been about 30 years.
?
Tony
?
?
?
It¡¯s in the Machine.ini
file in your profile folder under
C:\Mach4Hobby\Profiles
?
?
What
secret?? No-one cares.
?
I¡¯ve
put MRU lists into just about everything
I¡¯ve ever written, and never once put in
an option to clear it, nor did any one
ask.? It really is a very low priority.?
Hell, I remember when MRUs became the
big new thing, lol.
?
People
only care when you don¡¯t want your wife
to see the ¡°special interest¡± videos
you¡¯ve been watching, she may ask about
your sudden interest in basket weaving.
?
Not
surprised the MRU isn¡¯t in the registry,
the Mach dev are still living in the DOS
days.? Given that as before take a
rummage thru the Mach4 folder, there
will be some sort of setting files
(,ini, .dat?) that has the list.? The
modified date should be recent as it¡¯ll
be edited every time you fire up Mach4.?
Whether you can write a little script to
modify that, who knows.
?
Wouldn¡¯t
surprise me if it¡¯s tacked onto the
machine settings file.
?
File
a request with the Mach devs, nothing
will happen but anyway.
?
Tony
?
?
?
?
and why is this a well kept secret? the
recent files list is bullshit without
the ability to edit it.
right clicking does nothing nor can i
find the files in the registry. it i a
severe lack to not allow users to get
rid of this garbage if they want to. i
understand the fat that some people
might want to keep files from external
sources in the list but what about
those who want to get rid of the
garbage. there has to be a way to get
rid of this or clear the whole cache.
On
10/20/2021 5:25 PM, John McGovern
via
wrote:
Sent from my T-Mobile 5G
Device
--------
Original message --------
Date:
10/20/21 6:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
Subject:
Re: [MachCNC] saved files
I
meant some programs let you
clear the list, eg in MS Office
you can right-click the list and
it'll have a "Clear recents"
option, something like that.
I
very much doubt Mach4 does this,
If
the list does wind up in the
registry, what you can do is
delete all of the files, then
save the Key (registry folder)
to a file (will have a reg
extension).? If you then open
that file in the future it will
ask if you want to replace the
current Key with it, thus
clearing the list.
Oh,
and before I said to search for
'Values' in the registry, should
have said 'Data'.
?
what is this "occasional
program" and where do i get
it?
On
10/20/2021 2:42 PM, Tony
Smith wrote:
It's
called an MRU (Most
Recently Used) list,
and is typically
stored in the Windows
registry.
Of
course given the Mach
devs don't have much
of a clue about where
you are supposed to
put stuff (C;\Mach4?
Sure!), their list
could be anywhere, but
probably in the
install folder where
they?dump everything
else.
Use
regedit to search for
one of the files on
the list, it can
search for 3 types of
things so just leave
'Value' ticked.? Try a
partial match as
well.? This will be a
bit slow as Values
aren't indexed..
The
reasons why no-one
clears out the list is
because it wastes
time, and the files
may only be
temporarily
unavailable (different
flash drive, network
drive etc) so wiping
the 'dead' ones will
annoy a different
bunch of people.?
There is the
occasional program
that'll let you clear
the list, not all that
common.
?
i wrote before with no reply. Mach four
maintains a recent
fiels list
but there is no wa
to get rid of old
files. this make a
logn useless
list of current
files mixed with a
bunch of old deleted
stuff. makes it
a pain to choose the
right file. easier
to have a working
folder and do
the management
yourself, where is
this list found and
can it be edited?
or better yet why
cant mach4
automatically delete
files that are nor
found ?
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Bill in OKC too