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"No, they should just fire Musk. He's not doing Tesla any favors and his performance there has been weak."-Celeste Firing the company founder doesn't always work. After Apple's board fired Steve Jobs, the company went to ruin under his successor, and after Jobs returned, Apple became the world's most valuable company. Without Musk, there would be no Tesla, a company worth $567 billion. Giving 10% of that to the guy who made it all happen doesn't seem so bad. I don't know what his 140,000 employees and their families think of it; some of them might believe that they'd be just as well off working elsewhere, but others might be grateful for their jobs. Ed On Saturday, June 15, 2024, a1thighmaster via groups.io <thighmaster@...> wrote: 1. The G7 decided to loan Ukraine 50 billion dollars to be paid back from frozen Russian assets this week- is this a good idea? Yes, this seems very appropriate. 2. Testa's stockholders agreed to pay Elon Musk up to 54 billion dollars in compensation as CEO this week - it's not clear to me is this is a one year deal or over multiple years - is this a good idea? No, they should just fire Musk. He's not doing Tesla any favors and his performance there has been weak. 3. Did you learn anything interesting this week? Yes, I learned that my right hip is at end state for osteoarthritis. I will be having hip replacement surgery next month. 4. Did you do anything interesting this week? I always do interesting stuff at work. 5. Is the conflict in Gaza or Sudan more of a human tragedy? I'm not sure I understand what the question is. If the question is which one is the bigger human tragedy then I don't see any sense in asking that. They are certainly both huge human tragedies, but the Gaza conflict has been going on much longer and there doesn't seem to be any way to end it. Aloha, Celeste Rogers

1. The G7 decided to loan Ukraine 50 billion dollars to be paid back from frozen Russian assets this week- is this a good idea? 2. Testa's stockholders agreed to pay Elon Musk up to 54 billion dollars in compensation as CEO this week - it's not clear to me is this is a one year deal or over multiple years - is this a good idea? 3. Did you learn anything interesting this week? 4. Did you do anything interesting this week? 5. Is the conflict in Gaza or Sudan more of a human tragedy?

"Tesla shareholders on Thursday voted overwhelmingly in favor of restoring Musk’s 10-year pay plan, valued by the company in April at $44.9 billion. It was worth more early in the year, but Tesla’s stock value has fallen about 25% since then. The all-stock package, approved by the board and shareholders in 2018, rewards Musk for hitting milestones that include raising Tesla’s market value, pretax income and revenue. It had been tossed out by a Delaware judge in January who said the process for approving it was “deeply flawed.” The court ruled that Musk controlled the company’s board, and shareholders weren’t fully informed. But the company said Musk deserves the pay because he turned Tesla into the top-selling electric vehicle maker in the world, increasing its market value by billions."

In the case of Trump's hush money scheme he was both morally and legally guilty. Aloha, Celeste On 6/7/2024 6:50 PM, David Smith via groups.io wrote:

...according to Majorie Taylor Greene, in. a speech yesterday here in Nevada: https://apple.news/ABchf0lUvSv-nvMw5m76PvQ

Legal malpractice? How about accounting malpractice and independent auditor malpractice? Trump didn't personally make those 36 journal entries.

How does anyone know what his motive was, and whether he committed adultery (neither illegal nor unusual with presidential candidates), or if do, shat his family thought about it. As for euphemistic journal entries, for blackmail or bribery, those aren't unprecedented, either. Look up "facilitation payments," for example. Ed

1. Do you trust your political leaders to have your best interests paramount in their actions? 2. Was the Trump trial verdict unexpected? 3. Will the verdict effect the election? 4. Will you make a political donation this week? 5. Will this situation change how you feel about the future of the US?

I wouldn't call them real Christians, but they want to make sure that the U.S. is run their way. And they are using Trump to get there. Trump is probably thinks he is using them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ev0P92-fqs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JT8EQsQkhGQ Aloha, Celeste Rogers

Some of assumed it was a typo meant to be “12”

Oh yeah, "Repent! The end is near!" Nothing original about that, except that the message is secular this time, and instead of prophets and priests preaching it, it's scientists, whose opinions are infallible (except a couple of years after covid, when we learned that they were wrong). Ed

Up until this year it was a misdemeanor. So an accountant entered blackmail payments to a prostitute under an ambiguous description, and the state went after the guy being blackmailed. Who was the victim, and why wasn't the blackmailer sent to prison? Ed

1. Should Victronix remove the blades from their Swiss Army knivees? 2. Who do you think was the most influential military officer of World War II? 3. Do you think the Dow Jones Averages will finish over 40,000 on any given day this year? 4. Are you going to go on vacation this summer? 5. Should a president have the capability of rescinding an executive order posted by a predecessor?

1. The Boy Scouts have proposed taking the word boy out of the name - what do you think of this? 2. Was the death of the president of Iran an accident or deliberate action by someone unknown? 3. What advice would you give your younger self? 4 Do you think Donald Trump will be convicted in the latest trial? 5. Will this presidential election signal an end to the Post War Generation in politics?

1. The Boy Scouts have proposed taking the word boy out of the name - what do you think of this? I think it is utter insanity. Boys need to identify with men - to become men on their own. We are becoming a nation of bedwetters - and bedwetters don't remain in charge for very long 2. Was the death of the president of Iran an accident or deliberate action by someone unknown? Unknown. But a friend of mine from Bulgaria said it looks like a Russian operation to him. On the other hand the helicopter was probably more than forty years old and maintenance may well have been very bad. 3. What advice would you give your younger self? Don't listen to people who tell you what to do - look out for yourself and figure out your own path. 4 Do you think Donald Trump will be convicted in the latest trial? Possibly - but I am optimistic that any guilty verdict will be overturned on appeal - and a lot of different grounds. The biggest is that he has not been charged with anything so far that was actually illegal under state law. 5. Will this presidential election signal an end to the Post War Generation in politics? In the sense that the Baby Boomers are aging out - I hope so. We need new blood in the political process - continually recycling the same old people is not doing the nation any good. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "M-Scholars and Scribes" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to m-scholars-and-scribes+unsubscribe@.... To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/m-scholars-and-scribes/1716550702.dvgssfe3kgkgw080%40webmail.sitestar.net.

There is no maker of Swiss Army knives called Victronix. Perhaps they make sound equipment? General Dwight D. Eisenhower Very soon! Probably not. We've been caring for one of our dogs that has become crippled (can't use her rear legs) so I don't think we can leave her with a caretaker. No. They can be challenged in the courts if they are thought to break the law or thought to be unconstitutional. That's adequate. Aloha, Celeste Rogers

Was the smallest version banned from commercial aircraft carryons? I don't know if the mini-Leatherman (the Swiss Army Knife’s competition) is available without a blade or whether that one was banned. I carry a mini-Leatherman while backpacking, and my backpack has to be checked anyway, so it doesn’t matter. Few people carry pocketknives these days, and perhaps the company is trying to increase its acceptance to travelers who don’t check bags. The other consideration is that in these times, any little pocketknife might be considered a deadly weapon by overzealous police, and result in anyone frisked being charged with possession of concealed possession of a deadly weapon. Ed

1. Should Victronix remove the blades from their Swiss Army knives? This was recently reported - I think it is silly but quite possible. 2. Who do you think was the most influential military officer of World War II?+ One of two - neither of whom survived the war. Erwin Rommel and Isoroku Yamamoto. 3. Do you think the Dow Jones Averages will finish over 40,000 on any given day this year? Probably - the bigger question is whether that will ignite a selloff. 4. Are you going to go on vacation this summer? I'm going to try to squeeze one in on a business trip ion a couple of weeks. 5. Should a president have the capability of rescinding an executive order posted by a predecessor? Emphatically yes -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "M-Scholars and Scribes" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to m-scholars-and-scribes+unsubscribe@.... To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/m-scholars-and-scribes/1715905523.j3yeeqw3k0sgs44o%401752385.svc.e1m.net.

Celeste, the company’s decision the matter was in the news recently; hence the question. Congratulations on your spelling accuracy though. Ed

The Morrill Act, a bill signed by Abraham Lincoln, dedicated two square miles of every public land township for funding higher education in public universities. I attended a “land grant” college in the 70s, and it was tuition-free. We all had to pay for room and board and supplies and incidentals, which was about $1000 per semester. That was a great system; I could earn $2000 working in the mine during the summer and a few weekends for $3.57 an hour then. After the 70s the system fell apart; the university I attended, and other land grant colleges, now charge tuition to fund bloated administrations and football coaches, and students must take on debt to go to colleges. Students majoring in communications, drama, political science and other easy majors never earn enough to join the middle class, and many of them spend five or six years to get their worthless degrees. I’m in favor of land grant state schools providing a free education as far as tuition goes and doing away with mandatory fees for student football tickets, but totally free education, meaning room and board and beer is just subsidizing six years of play time.