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Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that
exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated
with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial
leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social
regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is
exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
2.?
Should a new president be allowed to hire private
entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is
allowed.
3.? Were
you surprised by the apparent outcome of the
presidential election?- remembering that the actual
election doesn't occur?until the electoral college
votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
4.? What
is the strangest rumor you have heard this election
season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were
eating people's pets.
5.? Do
you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
|
4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
D
On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 10:11?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that
exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated
with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial
leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social
regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is
exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
2.?
Should a new president be allowed to hire private
entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is
allowed.
3.? Were
you surprised by the apparent outcome of the
presidential election?- remembering that the actual
election doesn't occur?until the electoral college
votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
4.? What
is the strangest rumor you have heard this election
season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were
eating people's pets.
5.? Do
you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
|
?
Good one!
?
4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
?
Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
?
And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
?
D
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On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 10:11?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
?
2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is allowed.
?
3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
?
4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets.
?
5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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Everything but your ast sentence I agree with.
Marvin'
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Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
?
2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is allowed.
?
3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
?
4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets.
?
5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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The Elko Walmart often has people set up in the parking lot giving away free puppies.
On Friday, November 8, 2024, Darrell King via <DarrellGKing= [email protected]> wrote: 4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
D
Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that
exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated
with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial
leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social
regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is
exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
2.?
Should a new president be allowed to hire private
entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is
allowed.
3.? Were
you surprised by the apparent outcome of the
presidential election?- remembering that the actual
election doesn't occur?until the electoral college
votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
4.? What
is the strangest rumor you have heard this election
season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were
eating people's pets.
5.? Do
you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
|
Why even bother going inside?
D
The Elko Walmart often has people set up in the parking lot giving away free puppies.On Friday, November 8, 2024, Darrell King via <DarrellGKing= [email protected]> wrote: 4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
D On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 10:11?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that
exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated
with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial
leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social
regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is
exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
2.?
Should a new president be allowed to hire private
entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is
allowed.
3.? Were
you surprised by the apparent outcome of the
presidential election?- remembering that the actual
election doesn't occur?until the electoral college
votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
4.? What
is the strangest rumor you have heard this election
season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were
eating people's pets.
5.? Do
you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
|
I was surprised at the questions and the answers.
Celeste mentioned a nationalist aspect, and considering the original politics that made it popular before wwii, it would seem so. However, checking the RAE (Spanish Royal Academy, the main authority on spanish language), it says:
1. m. Movimiento político y social de carácter totalitario que se desarrolló en Italia en la primera mitad del siglo XX, y que se caracterizaba por el corporativismo y la exaltación nacionalista.
2. m. Doctrina del fascismo italiano y de los movimientos políticos similares surgidos en otros países.
3. m. Actitud autoritaria y antidemocrática que socialmente se considera relacionada con el fascismo.
Sin.:?autoritarismo, totalitarismo, dictadura.
Ant.: antifascismo.
? ? It has no mention of nationalism. ?Why would that be? ?2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
?Why not? As long as it's within budget.?3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
Ahh, true. But still, ?has ever the electoral college change the outcome??4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste mentioned pets being eaten. There's a saying in Spanish: "gato por liebre", meaning someone can be fooled (eating a cat instead of a wild rabbit). Also, there used to be rumors that chinese restaurants used rats and cats instead of chicken and beef. ?But what does any of it have to do with the elections??5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
Not withing the US regarding politics. The rest of the world... we have other issues.
El viernes, 8 de noviembre de 2024, 05:03:03 p.?m. ART, Darrell King via groups.io <darrellgking@...> escribió:
Why even bother going inside?
D The Elko Walmart often has people set up in the parking lot giving away free puppies.On Friday, November 8, 2024, Darrell King via <DarrellGKing= [email protected]> wrote: 4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
D On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 10:11?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that
exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated
with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial
leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social
regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is
exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
2.?
Should a new president be allowed to hire private
entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is
allowed.
3.? Were
you surprised by the apparent outcome of the
presidential election?- remembering that the actual
election doesn't occur?until the electoral college
votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
4.? What
is the strangest rumor you have heard this election
season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were
eating people's pets.
5.? Do
you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
|
Hi, Anabel!
1) Mirriam Webster online mentions nationalism in the definition of fascism.
2) (Now-) President Trump mentioned during an interview or debate a then-popular rumor that Haitian?refugees in Pennsylvania were eating small pets. This, if true (it was never substantiated), would have been a very serious breach of US hospitality.
Good hearing from you again!
D
I was surprised at the questions and the answers.
Celeste mentioned a nationalist aspect, and considering the original politics that made it popular before wwii, it would seem so. However, checking the RAE (Spanish Royal Academy, the main authority on spanish language), it says:
1. m. Movimiento político y social de carácter totalitario que se desarrolló en Italia en la primera mitad del siglo XX, y que se caracterizaba por el corporativismo y la exaltación nacionalista.
2. m. Doctrina del fascismo italiano y de los movimientos políticos similares surgidos en otros países.
3. m. Actitud autoritaria y antidemocrática que socialmente se considera relacionada con el fascismo.
Sin.:?autoritarismo, totalitarismo, dictadura.
Ant.: antifascismo.
? ? It has no mention of nationalism. ?Why would that be? ?2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
?Why not? As long as it's within budget.?3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
Ahh, true. But still, ?has ever the electoral college change the outcome??4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste mentioned pets being eaten. There's a saying in Spanish: "gato por liebre", meaning someone can be fooled (eating a cat instead of a wild rabbit). Also, there used to be rumors that chinese restaurants used rats and cats instead of chicken and beef. ?But what does any of it have to do with the elections??5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
Not withing the US regarding politics. The rest of the world... we have other issues.
El viernes, 8 de noviembre de 2024, 05:03:03 p.?m. ART, Darrell King via <darrellgking= [email protected]> escribió:
Why even bother going inside?
D The Elko Walmart often has people set up in the parking lot giving away free puppies.On Friday, November 8, 2024, Darrell King via <DarrellGKing= [email protected]> wrote: 4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
D On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 10:11?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that
exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated
with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial
leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social
regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is
exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
2.?
Should a new president be allowed to hire private
entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is
allowed.
3.? Were
you surprised by the apparent outcome of the
presidential election?- remembering that the actual
election doesn't occur?until the electoral college
votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
4.? What
is the strangest rumor you have heard this election
season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were
eating people's pets.
5.? Do
you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
|
Slave market. ?Sick. ?Move, Ed, before they sell you.
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On Nov 8, 2024, at 14:30, Ed Lomas via groups.io <relomas2@...> wrote:
?The Elko Walmart often has people set up in the parking lot giving away free puppies. On Friday, November 8, 2024, Darrell King via <DarrellGKing= [email protected]> wrote: 4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
D
Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that
exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated
with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial
leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social
regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is
exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
2.?
Should a new president be allowed to hire private
entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is
allowed.
3.? Were
you surprised by the apparent outcome of the
presidential election?- remembering that the actual
election doesn't occur?until the electoral college
votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
4.? What
is the strangest rumor you have heard this election
season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were
eating people's pets.
5.? Do
you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
|
"Facismo" no es más que una palabra que suena "educada" para "gente a la que detestamos profundamente". ?Tire su diccionario. ?Hoy en día, las palabras se utilizan para significar lo que el usuario quiere que signifiquen. ?La traducción siempre es necesaria cuando se vive fuera de la burbuja de los usuarios.
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On Nov 8, 2024, at 17:18, Anabel Perez via groups.io <perezbem@...> wrote:
? I was surprised at the questions and the answers.
Celeste mentioned a nationalist aspect, and considering the original politics that made it popular before wwii, it would seem so. However, checking the RAE (Spanish Royal Academy, the main authority on spanish language), it says:
1. m. Movimiento político y social de carácter totalitario que se desarrolló en Italia en la primera mitad del siglo XX, y que se caracterizaba por el corporativismo y la exaltación nacionalista.
2. m. Doctrina del fascismo italiano y de los movimientos políticos similares surgidos en otros países.
3. m. Actitud autoritaria y antidemocrática que socialmente se considera relacionada con el fascismo.
Sin.:?autoritarismo, totalitarismo, dictadura.
Ant.: antifascismo.
? ? It has no mention of nationalism. ?Why would that be? ?2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
?Why not? As long as it's within budget.?3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
Ahh, true. But still, ?has ever the electoral college change the outcome??4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste mentioned pets being eaten. There's a saying in Spanish: "gato por liebre", meaning someone can be fooled (eating a cat instead of a wild rabbit). Also, there used to be rumors that chinese restaurants used rats and cats instead of chicken and beef. ?But what does any of it have to do with the elections??5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
Not withing the US regarding politics. The rest of the world... we have other issues.
El viernes, 8 de noviembre de 2024, 05:03:03 p.?m. ART, Darrell King via groups.io <darrellgking@...> escribió:
Why even bother going inside?
D The Elko Walmart often has people set up in the parking lot giving away free puppies.On Friday, November 8, 2024, Darrell King via <DarrellGKing= [email protected]> wrote: 4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
D On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 10:11?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that
exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated
with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial
leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social
regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is
exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
2.?
Should a new president be allowed to hire private
entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is
allowed.
3.? Were
you surprised by the apparent outcome of the
presidential election?- remembering that the actual
election doesn't occur?until the electoral college
votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
4.? What
is the strangest rumor you have heard this election
season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were
eating people's pets.
5.? Do
you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
|
Anabel,
Yes, it has.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 11/8/2024 12:18 PM, Anabel Perez
wrote:
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Ahh, true.
But still, ?has ever the electoral college change the
outcome?
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?
The dog eating rumor came out of a town in Ohio where 20,000 Haitians had arrived in a town of 60,000.
Marvin
?
Hi, Anabel!
?
1) Mirriam Webster online mentions nationalism in the definition of fascism.
?
2) (Now-) President Trump mentioned during an interview or debate a then-popular rumor that Haitian?refugees in Pennsylvania were eating small pets. This, if true (it was never substantiated), would have been a very serious breach of US hospitality.
?
Good hearing from you again!
?
D
?
?
I was surprised at the questions and the answers.
?
-
Celeste mentioned a nationalist aspect, and considering the original politics that made it popular before wwii, it would seem so. However, checking the RAE (Spanish Royal Academy, the main authority on spanish language), it says:
1. m. Movimiento político y social de carácter totalitario que se desarrolló en Italia en la primera mitad del siglo XX, y que se caracterizaba por el corporativismo y la exaltación nacionalista.
2. m. Doctrina del fascismo italiano y de los movimientos políticos similares surgidos en otros países.
3. m. Actitud autoritaria y antidemocrática que socialmente se considera relacionada con el fascismo.
Sin.:?autoritarismo, totalitarismo, dictadura.
Ant.: antifascismo.
?
? ? It has no mention of nationalism. ?Why would that be?
?
2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
?Why not? As long as it's within budget.
?
3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
Ahh, true. But still, ?has ever the electoral college change the outcome?
?
4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste mentioned pets being eaten. There's a saying in Spanish: "gato por liebre", meaning someone can be fooled (eating a cat instead of a wild rabbit). Also, there used to be rumors that chinese restaurants used rats and cats instead of chicken and beef. ?But what does any of it have to do with the elections?
?
5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
Not withing the US regarding politics. The rest of the world... we have other issues.
?
?
El viernes, 8 de noviembre de 2024, 05:03:03 p.?m. ART, Darrell King via <darrellgking= [email protected]> escribió: ?
?
Why even bother going inside?
?
D
?
The Elko Walmart often has people set up in the parking lot giving away free puppies.
?
On Friday, November 8, 2024, Darrell King via <DarrellGKing= [email protected]> wrote:
4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
?
Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
?
And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
?
D
?
On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 10:11?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
?
2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is allowed.
?
3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
?
4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets.
?
5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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Read the constitution!
I actually read it in the doctors office yesterday - and gave my pocket copy to the medical assistant who knew very litte but was curious.
The popular vote has nothing to do the the presidential election - which has not happened yet.
Marvin
Anabel,
Yes, it has.
Aloha,
Celeste
?
On 11/8/2024 12:18 PM, Anabel Perez wrote:
Ahh, true. But still, ?has ever the electoral college change the outcome?
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And the Haitians were not
there illegally. That was the other part of that false rumor. The
Haitians went there because there was work available for them.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 11/8/2024 2:03 PM, Marvin wrote:
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?
The dog eating rumor came out of a town in Ohio where
20,000 Haitians had arrived in a town of 60,000.
Darrell wrote:?
Hi, Anabel!
?
1) Mirriam Webster
online mentions nationalism in the definition of fascism.
?
2) (Now-) President
Trump mentioned during an interview or debate a
then-popular rumor that Haitian?refugees in Pennsylvania
were eating small pets. This, if true (it was never
substantiated), would have been a very serious breach of
US hospitality.
?
Good hearing from you
again!
?
?
On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at
3:18?PM Anabel Perez wrote:
I was surprised at the questions and
the answers.
?
Celeste
mentioned pets being eaten. There's a saying in
Spanish: "gato por liebre", meaning someone can
be fooled (eating a cat instead of a wild
rabbit). Also, there used to be rumors that
chinese restaurants used rats and cats instead
of chicken and beef. ?But what does any of it
have to do with the elections?
|
Oh...Ohio is not in Pennsylvania...? D
?
The dog eating rumor came out of a town in Ohio where 20,000 Haitians had arrived in a town of 60,000.
Marvin
?
Hi, Anabel!
?
1) Mirriam Webster online mentions nationalism in the definition of fascism.
?
2) (Now-) President Trump mentioned during an interview or debate a then-popular rumor that Haitian?refugees in Pennsylvania were eating small pets. This, if true (it was never substantiated), would have been a very serious breach of US hospitality.
?
Good hearing from you again!
?
D
?
?
I was surprised at the questions and the answers.
?
-
Celeste mentioned a nationalist aspect, and considering the original politics that made it popular before wwii, it would seem so. However, checking the RAE (Spanish Royal Academy, the main authority on spanish language), it says:
1. m. Movimiento político y social de carácter totalitario que se desarrolló en Italia en la primera mitad del siglo XX, y que se caracterizaba por el corporativismo y la exaltación nacionalista.
2. m. Doctrina del fascismo italiano y de los movimientos políticos similares surgidos en otros países.
3. m. Actitud autoritaria y antidemocrática que socialmente se considera relacionada con el fascismo.
Sin.:?autoritarismo, totalitarismo, dictadura.
Ant.: antifascismo.
?
? ? It has no mention of nationalism. ?Why would that be?
?
2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
?Why not? As long as it's within budget.
?
3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
Ahh, true. But still, ?has ever the electoral college change the outcome?
?
4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste mentioned pets being eaten. There's a saying in Spanish: "gato por liebre", meaning someone can be fooled (eating a cat instead of a wild rabbit). Also, there used to be rumors that chinese restaurants used rats and cats instead of chicken and beef. ?But what does any of it have to do with the elections?
?
5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
Not withing the US regarding politics. The rest of the world... we have other issues.
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El viernes, 8 de noviembre de 2024, 05:03:03 p.?m. ART, Darrell King via <darrellgking= [email protected]> escribió: ?
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Why even bother going inside?
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The Elko Walmart often has people set up in the parking lot giving away free puppies.
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On Friday, November 8, 2024, Darrell King via <DarrellGKing= [email protected]> wrote:
4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
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Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
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And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
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On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 10:11?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
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2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is allowed.
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3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
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4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets.
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5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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They were brought it en mass to a small community - they overran the commujity services available.? The number whould have been limited to something like one percent of the original population instead of 35%..? And what kind of work was available - were they taking those jobs and what happened to locals who would have been available.
Marvin
And the Haitians were not there illegally. That was the other part of that false rumor. The Haitians went there because there was work available for them.
Aloha,
Celeste
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On 11/8/2024 2:03 PM, Marvin wrote:
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The dog eating rumor came out of a town in Ohio where 20,000 Haitians had arrived in a town of 60,000.
Darrell wrote:?
Hi, Anabel!
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1) Mirriam Webster online mentions nationalism in the definition of fascism.
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2) (Now-) President Trump mentioned during an interview or debate a then-popular rumor that Haitian?refugees in Pennsylvania were eating small pets. This, if true (it was never substantiated), would have been a very serious breach of US hospitality.
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Good hearing from you again!
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On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 3:18?PM Anabel Perez wrote:
I was surprised at the questions and the answers.
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Celeste mentioned pets being eaten. There's a saying in Spanish: "gato por liebre", meaning someone can be fooled (eating a cat instead of a wild rabbit). Also, there used to be rumors that chinese restaurants used rats and cats instead of chicken and beef. ?But what does any of it have to do with the elections?
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This election it would not have mattered.
Marvin
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Oh...Ohio is not in Pennsylvania...?
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The dog eating rumor came out of a town in Ohio where 20,000 Haitians had arrived in a town of 60,000.
Marvin
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Hi, Anabel!
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1) Mirriam Webster online mentions nationalism in the definition of fascism.
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2) (Now-) President Trump mentioned during an interview or debate a then-popular rumor that Haitian?refugees in Pennsylvania were eating small pets. This, if true (it was never substantiated), would have been a very serious breach of US hospitality.
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Good hearing from you again!
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I was surprised at the questions and the answers.
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Celeste mentioned a nationalist aspect, and considering the original politics that made it popular before wwii, it would seem so. However, checking the RAE (Spanish Royal Academy, the main authority on spanish language), it says:
1. m. Movimiento político y social de carácter totalitario que se desarrolló en Italia en la primera mitad del siglo XX, y que se caracterizaba por el corporativismo y la exaltación nacionalista.
2. m. Doctrina del fascismo italiano y de los movimientos políticos similares surgidos en otros países.
3. m. Actitud autoritaria y antidemocrática que socialmente se considera relacionada con el fascismo.
Sin.:?autoritarismo, totalitarismo, dictadura.
Ant.: antifascismo.
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? ? It has no mention of nationalism. ?Why would that be?
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2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
?Why not? As long as it's within budget.
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3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
Ahh, true. But still, ?has ever the electoral college change the outcome?
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4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
Celeste mentioned pets being eaten. There's a saying in Spanish: "gato por liebre", meaning someone can be fooled (eating a cat instead of a wild rabbit). Also, there used to be rumors that chinese restaurants used rats and cats instead of chicken and beef. ?But what does any of it have to do with the elections?
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5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
Not withing the US regarding politics. The rest of the world... we have other issues.
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El viernes, 8 de noviembre de 2024, 05:03:03 p.?m. ART, Darrell King via <darrellgking= [email protected]> escribió: ?
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Why even bother going inside?
?
D
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The Elko Walmart often has people set up in the parking lot giving away free puppies.
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On Friday, November 8, 2024, Darrell King via <DarrellGKing= [email protected]> wrote:
4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
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Celeste Answered:? "It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets."
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And Darrell Wryly Noted: Just hit Walmart for groceries?while we are grounded in NE Arizona awaiting vehicle service. It Cost $300?to walk out the door and the cart was not overfilled nor extravagantly filled! If that does?not stop soon, I will be looking at the neighbor's chubby dog with a bit of salivation...?
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On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at 10:11?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
Fascism is a populist political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual. It is associated with a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, and that is characterized by severe economic and social regimentation and by forcible suppression of opposition. This is exactly what Donald Trump proposes.
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2.? Should a new president be allowed to hire private entities to vet his appointees?
Only if the new president pays for it and no government subsidy is allowed.
?
3.? Were you surprised by the apparent outcome of the presidential election?- remembering that the actual election doesn't occur?until the electoral college votes?
Yes. Many people were fooled.
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4.? What is the strangest rumor you have heard this election season?
It was the false accusation that Haitian immigrants in Ohio were eating people's pets.
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5.? Do you expect major unrest after the election?
No.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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There is an abundance of
jobs in Springfield because a bunch of new companies moved there
and opened facilities. So they needed the added population as
workers.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 11/8/2024 2:22 PM, Marvin wrote:
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They were brought it en
mass to a small community - they overran the commujity
services available.? The number whould have been limited to
something like one percent of the original population instead
of 35%..? And what kind of work was available - were they
taking those jobs and what happened to locals who would have
been available.
Celeste wrote:
And the Haitians
were not there illegally. That was the other part of that
false rumor. The Haitians went there because there was work
available for them.
On 11/8/2024 2:03 PM, Marvin
wrote:
The
dog eating rumor came out of a town in Ohio where 20,000
Haitians had arrived in a town of 60,000.
Darrell wrote:?
Hi, Anabel!
?
1) Mirriam Webster
online mentions nationalism in the definition of fascism.
?
2) (Now-)
President Trump mentioned during an interview or
debate a then-popular rumor that Haitian?refugees in
Pennsylvania were eating small pets. This, if true
(it was never substantiated), would have been a very
serious breach of US hospitality.
?
Good hearing from
you again!
?
?
On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at
3:18?PM Anabel Perez wrote:
I was surprised at the questions
and the answers.
?
Celeste
mentioned pets being eaten. There's a saying
in Spanish: "gato por liebre", meaning
someone can be fooled (eating a cat instead
of a wild rabbit). Also, there used to be
rumors that chinese restaurants used rats
and cats instead of chicken and beef. ?But
what does any of it have to do with the
elections?
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Thank you, all, for the replies and comments. Certainly then similar words have different meanings and implications in different cultures.?
It is unfortunate (to say the least) when a candidate that has much chance of becoming a strong presidential authority seems unreliable on their public words and expressions using eithe falsehoods or unsubstantiated rumors. We've had our more than acceptable share of that over the years, to the point of a special private web being created as fact checkers:??(btw, one the creators and current owner is a local mensa).
Ref turning elections by the ellectoral college, thak you, Celeste. I see that in those cases were the result was changed, both candidats were pretty even (still it seems a political negotation took place: the less voted parties will ally themselves giving the second candidate a winning chance).? In Argentina we had ellectoral college on and off until 1994, and since then a direct voting system was implemented (not that is guarantees truthfulness in popular will, but that's another story).
There was a saying an old professor of mine used to say: to the Usian their best interest is a winning democrat, but for LA it's republican. Of course, neither leftists nor conservatives would agree.?
I believe that Trump, with the "make america great again" will work to create a new cold war, in coincidence with Russia and China. It might have some value for usians. But it's not good for the rest of the world.
El sábado, 9 de noviembre de 2024, 01:01:36 a.?m. ART, a1thighmaster <thighmaster@...> escribió:
There is an abundance of
jobs in Springfield because a bunch of new companies moved there
and opened facilities. So they needed the added population as
workers.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 11/8/2024 2:22 PM, Marvin wrote:
They were brought it en
mass to a small community - they overran the commujity
services available.? The number whould have been limited to
something like one percent of the original population instead
of 35%..? And what kind of work was available - were they
taking those jobs and what happened to locals who would have
been available.
Celeste wrote:
And the Haitians
were not there illegally. That was the other part of that
false rumor. The Haitians went there because there was work
available for them.
On 11/8/2024 2:03 PM, Marvin
wrote:
The
dog eating rumor came out of a town in Ohio where 20,000
Haitians had arrived in a town of 60,000.
Darrell wrote:?
Hi, Anabel!
?
1) Mirriam Webster
online mentions nationalism in the definition of fascism.
?
2) (Now-)
President Trump mentioned during an interview or
debate a then-popular rumor that Haitian?refugees in
Pennsylvania were eating small pets. This, if true
(it was never substantiated), would have been a very
serious breach of US hospitality.
?
Good hearing from
you again!
?
?
On Fri, Nov 8, 2024 at
3:18?PM Anabel Perez wrote:
I was surprised at the questions
and the answers.
?
Celeste
mentioned pets being eaten. There's a saying
in Spanish: "gato por liebre", meaning
someone can be fooled (eating a cat instead
of a wild rabbit). Also, there used to be
rumors that chinese restaurants used rats
and cats instead of chicken and beef. ?But
what does any of it have to do with the
elections?
|
The "winner" did not lose anything; in 2000 and 2016, no candidate had the majority of the vote.? The Democrats only had a plurality.? Look at it this way: if three candidates all had about the same votes, but one had 34%, he would not be the "winner," almost 2/3 would have voted for someone else. Ed
On Friday, November 8, 2024, a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= hawaii.rr.com@groups.io> wrote:
Anabel,
Yes, it has.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 11/8/2024 12:18 PM, Anabel Perez
wrote:
Ahh, true.
But still, ?has ever the electoral college change the
outcome?
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David Smith