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Re: Friday Five Jan 3

 

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// ? ??5.? Do you think the Las Vegas incident was related to the New Orleans incident?

I don't know and doubt we will ever rind out.? There is one unconfrimed report that the driver committed suicide, but only one and that is not from a reliable source.? The video of the explosion looks like a small fire that ignited propane cylinders in the truck bed.? If the explosion had been a high order detonation of lbs of high explosive there would have been very little left of the truck.? ? ?//

Never know. ?Yep. ?The American federal government have got into a comfortable groove of lying to the people for whom they know they only theoretically work. ?They lie and the news media support them. ?Maybe half the electorate despise them, but they don't care, because they have the power. ?The deep state, the swamp. ?If Republicans can leverage this last election into something broad and deep and lasting, there is a *chance* that the swamp will *begin* to dry up, but it will take generations.

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On Jan 3, 2025, at 16:10, mrvnchpmn via groups.io <chapman@...> wrote:

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1.? Will the reputation of Jimmy Carter change now that he has died?

Probably so but exactly how is not obvious.? He did a? lot of great things after he left the White House, but also did some inncredibly stupid ones as well - most notoriously getting involved in diplomatic negotiations.

2.? Should obesity treating drugs that cost substantial amounts be covered by insurance?

I really don't know.? I have one friend who has been using them for about six months and has apparently lost about thirty five lb - though she has another hundred to go before she gets down to a healhty weight.? The biggest question is what happens if the user don't change their eating and exercise habits, as well as what happens if they quit taking the drugs.

3.? What was the biggest oops of the last year?

I think maintaining that BIden was as sharp as ever - though from some reports I have seen he was never regarded as the the sharpest knife in the drawer

4.? What was the biggest lie of the year?

That Biden was not cognitively challenged.

5.? Do you think the Las Vegas incident was related to the New Orleans incident?

I don't know and doubt we will ever rind out.? There is one unconfrimed report that the driver committed suicide, but only one and that is not from a reliable source.? The video of the explosion looks like a small fire that ignited propane cylinders in the truck bed.? If the explosion had been a high order detonation of lbs of high explosive there would have been very little left of the truck.
Re: Friday Five Jan 3

 

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Marvin,

Why do you think there is only one report? Why do you believe it to be unconfirmed?



Aloha,
Celeste


On 1/3/2025 11:10 AM, Marvin wrote:

?5.? Do you think the Las Vegas incident was related to the New Orleans incident?

I don't know and doubt we will ever rind out.? There is one unconfrimed report that the driver committed suicide, but only one and that is not from a reliable source.?

Re: Friday Five Jan 3

 

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1.? Will the reputation of Jimmy Carter change now that he has died?

Probably so but exactly how is not obvious.? He did a? lot of great things after he left the White House, but also did some inncredibly stupid ones as well - most notoriously getting involved in diplomatic negotiations.

2.? Should obesity treating drugs that cost substantial amounts be covered by insurance?

I really don't know.? I have one friend who has been using them for about six months and has apparently lost about thirty five lb - though she has another hundred to go before she gets down to a healhty weight.? The biggest question is what happens if the user don't change their eating and exercise habits, as well as what happens if they quit taking the drugs.

3.? What was the biggest oops of the last year?

I think maintaining that BIden was as sharp as ever - though from some reports I have seen he was never regarded as the the sharpest knife in the drawer

4.? What was the biggest lie of the year?

That Biden was not cognitively challenged.

5.? Do you think the Las Vegas incident was related to the New Orleans incident?

I don't know and doubt we will ever rind out.? There is one unconfrimed report that the driver committed suicide, but only one and that is not from a reliable source.? The video of the explosion looks like a small fire that ignited propane cylinders in the truck bed.? If the explosion had been a high order detonation of lbs of high explosive there would have been very little left of the truck.
Re: Friday Five Jan 3

 

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1.? Will the reputation of Jimmy Carter change now that he has died?
There's certainly no need for it to change. He was a great example of humanity.

2.? Should obesity treating drugs that cost substantial amounts be covered by insurance?
Yes, if they are being used to treat a life-threatening condition.

3.? What was the biggest oops of the last year?
It would help to have a category for this because there were so many. Boeing had a lot of oopses. So did Tesla.

4.? What was the biggest lie of the year?
That electing Trump would result in lower prices.

5.? Do you thinnk the Las Vegas incident was related to the New Orleans incident?
No, not at all.

Aloha,
Celeste
Re: Friday Five Jan 3

 

1.? Will the reputation of Jimmy Carter change now that he has died?

I imagine it will continue to evolve in the usual manner as the?narrative adapts?to new times, perspectives and needs.

2.? Should obesity treating drugs that cost substantial amounts be covered by insurance?

I suppose not, although the?U.S. citizenry?has been manipulated?into a consumer role over many decades now. When the populace?was overwhelmingly young and healthy, we needed to farm them as prodigious eaters and users of pharm to profit as deeply as possible off them. As the adverse effects of the short-sighted profiteering binge became apparent in the form of lifestyle diseases in an aging population, the money began to flow backwards and the healthcare insurers dug in their heels. Now we have a topheavy and tottering healthcare structure over-invested in everything?from school?loans to insulin to litigation. The attendant obesity is a direct result of marketing candy and tobacco and huge dinner portions. While some have attempted to invest in weight loss in order to pull in the reins on the financial avalanche?until the inconsiderate Baby Boomers die off the insurance dole, many corporate entities seem to be of a mind to wipe hands and let the public look after itself. Attrition will eventually erode the problem away.

As a nurse, I prefer healthy?lifestyles to further pharmacological profiteering. This course would also have the advantage?of promoting cognitive coping skills resistant to consumer farming, perhaps moving us away from?our Matrix pods in the future. As has been mentioned, though, this would be a harder course for many and whether we could stay it depends a lot on what our core values are nowadays.

3.? What was the biggest oops of the last year?

I still have not seen any zombies even as extreme weather, dire environmental?predictions, terrorist incidents, expanding global warfare, spreading infrastructure failures, escalating disease outbreaks, devolving?social cohesion and ridiculous?grocery totals consume the planet. I am disappointed and consider this to be an oops in the Plan.

("Zombies" is a term I love to use for humanoid social?germs such?as predatory criminal gangs, hordes of disease victims, rampaging rioters or displaced foraging multitudes. I am being facetious, of course, but I do feel that any tipping point of social decay will evidence significant numbers of one or all of these. Haiti comes to mind...)

4.? What was the biggest lie of the year?

There is no danger to the public at this time...

5.? Do you think the Las Vegas incident was related to the New Orleans incident?

If not directly, there is still an obvious link through the day-and-times route. They are part of The New Normal.
Re: [Owner] Re: [PhilosophicalM] [m-scholars-and-scribes] Re: Friday Five Jan 3

 

1.? Will the reputation of Jimmy Carter change now that he has died?? No.? why should it?? He's been out of the office for years.

He'll be revered as a person who did a lot of good after leaving the presidency.? His disastroush?term will be downplayed and blamed on factors beyond his control, even though his administration was dysfunctional and the economy was the worst since the Great Depression.


2.? Should obesity treating drugs that cost substantial amounts be covered by insurance?

Only in cases where the drugs are needed to save the patient's life.? Obesity treating drugs should not be used when someone is mildly overweight and is capable of exercise and dieting.? Those natural methods are unpleasant but better in avoiding side-effects.

3.? What was the biggest oops of the last year?

Biden debating Trump, but for a single discrete event, it may have been Kamala Harris on "The View" not coming up with a single decision that she would change in Joe Biden's presidency.

4.? What was the biggest lie of the year? ?

Presidential Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre stating after the Trump-Biden debate that Biden does not suffer from any form of dementia.?

5.? Do you think the Las Vegas incident was related to the New Orleans incident?? It appears to be.

I don't know.? It could be a coincidence, but it might not be.?






On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 5:32?AM jack via <jack=[email protected]> wrote:

On 2025-01-02 19:07, chapman@... wrote:

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1.? Will the reputation of Jimmy Carter change now that he has died?? No.? why shouild it?? He's been out of the office for years.

2.? Should obesity treating drugs that cost substantial amounts be covered by insurance? No.

3.? What was the biggest oops of the last year?? Alfghanistanwithdrawal - but I guess that wasn't last year.

4.? What was the biggest lie of the year?? I won't pardon Hunter.? And we all knew it was a lie when he said it.

5.? Do you thinnk the Las Vegas incident was related to the New Orleans incident?? It appears to be.


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Re: Friday Five Jan 3

 

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1.? Will the reputation of Jimmy Carter change now that he has died?

2.? Should obesity treating drugs that cost substantial amounts be covered by insurance?

3.? What was the biggest oops of the last year?

4.? What was the biggest lie of the year?

5.? Do you thinnk the Las Vegas incident was related to the New Orleans incident?
Re: Friday Five Dec 27

 

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Excellent summary of twentieth century events.? I',m reading a book on the presidenrts? I'm up to Teddy Roosevelt - who hated to be called Teddy.

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3.? 2021 was characterized by Jan 6 "insurrection".? Has a political group previously tried to overturn a presidential election?
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I understand that Nixon was involved in something?related, but I did not read in detail.
Actually there were major questions about the 1960 election but Nixon did not advocate contesting the results.
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That absurd Politico article that was posted earlier making it sound like Nixon tried to overturn Kennedy's legitimate election is sloppy revisionism.? LBJ's cronies literally stole his election to the Senate in 1948, and Mayor Daley's political machine stole Nixon's victory in Illinois.? The Texas Democrats were so corrupt at that time that Kennedy's win in that state is likewise suspicious.
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Robert Caro is one of the best biographers ever, and he's written four- of a planned five-volume biography of LBJ, and is a much more reputable source on LBJ and Texas politics at that time than David Greenburg, who is a biased liberal revisionist. Caro summed up his thoroughly researched opinion as: "stole it--and in the stealing violated even the notably loose boundaries of Texas politics."
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The political group that tried to overturn an election in this century was the Democratic party, which kept forcing recounts in Florida's results to overturn Bush's victory in Florida in 2000.? The Supreme Court finally stepped in when Al Gore was trying to force yet another recount that left out swaths of Bush votes.? Had he succeeded, it would have been the most recent stolen presidential election since 1960.
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On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 1:49?AM mrvnchpmn via <chapman=[email protected]> wrote:

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1.? Are you making New Years resolutions?
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Not formally, but I often review my goals.

2.? Are you looking forward to the new year?
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Same as every year. I will live until I die and will try to enjoy it.

3.? 2021 was characterized by Jan 6 "insurrection".? Has a political group previously tried to overturn a presidential election?
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I understand that Nixon was involved in something?related, but I did not read in detail.

Actually there were major qauestions about the 160 election but Nixon did not advocate contesting the results.

4.? Elon Musk is advocating unlimited visas for technologically talented individuals - is this a good idea?
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If it benefits the country, sure.
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5.? Did you travel more than fifty?miles this holiday season?
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I live in a travel trailer. We traveled about three thousand to get here for the holidays.

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Re: Friday Five Dec 27

 

Yes, I think Nixon lost the election of 1060.
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On Friday, December 27, 2024, Darrell King via <DarrellGKing=[email protected]> wrote:
"Actually there were major questions about the 160 election but Nixon did not advocate contesting the results."

Ah. Must be why it came up in the search. Teach me to rush through my research... :)

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Darrell G King, MA, RN
Rochester, NY, US
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On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:49?AM mrvnchpmn via <chapman=tidepool.com@groups.io> wrote:
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1.? Are you making New Years resolutions?
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Not formally, but I often review my goals.

2.? Are you looking forward to the new year?
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Same as every year. I will live until I die and will try to enjoy it.

3.? 2021 was characterized by Jan 6 "insurrection".? Has a political group previously tried to overturn a presidential election?
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I understand that Nixon was involved in something?related, but I did not read in detail.

Actually there were major qauestions about the 160 election but Nixon did not advocate contesting the results.

4.? Elon Musk is advocating unlimited visas for technologically talented individuals - is this a good idea?
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If it benefits the country, sure.
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5.? Did you travel more than fifty?miles this holiday season?
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I live in a travel trailer. We traveled about three thousand to get here for the holidays.

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Re: Friday Five Dec 27

 

"Actually there were major questions about the 160 election but Nixon did not advocate contesting the results."

Ah. Must be why it came up in the search. Teach me to rush through my research... :)

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Darrell G King, MA, RN
Rochester, NY, US
DarrellGKing@...




On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:49?AM mrvnchpmn via <chapman=[email protected]> wrote:
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1.? Are you making New Years resolutions?
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Not formally, but I often review my goals.

2.? Are you looking forward to the new year?
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Same as every year. I will live until I die and will try to enjoy it.

3.? 2021 was characterized by Jan 6 "insurrection".? Has a political group previously tried to overturn a presidential election?
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I understand that Nixon was involved in something?related, but I did not read in detail.

Actually there were major qauestions about the 160 election but Nixon did not advocate contesting the results.

4.? Elon Musk is advocating unlimited visas for technologically talented individuals - is this a good idea?
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If it benefits the country, sure.
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5.? Did you travel more than fifty?miles this holiday season?
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I live in a travel trailer. We traveled about three thousand to get here for the holidays.

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Re: Friday Five Dec 27

 

Celeste said: " I might retire next year."

And Darrell replied: Welcome to the 'in' crowd, Celeste!



On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 8:54?PM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster=[email protected]> wrote:
1.? Are you making New Years resolutions?
No. Why wait for a new year to make resolutions. Make them when you need to.

2.? Are you looking forward to the new year?
Yes. I might retire next year.

3.? 2021 was characterized by Jan 6 "insurrection".? Has a political group presiously tried to overturn a presidential election?
Yes. Nixon and his cronies took a shot at it.


4.? Elon Musk is advocating unlimited visas for technologically tanlented individuals - is this a good idea/
It's hard to say. What would the criteria be? Who would determine it?

5.? Did you travel more than fifty?miles this holiday season?
No. I'm currently on vacation, but I prefer to stay home.

Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
Re: Friday Five Dec 27

 

3.? 2021 was characterized by Jan 6 "insurrection".? Has a political group previously tried to overturn a presidential election?
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I understand that Nixon was involved in something?related, but I did not read in detail.
Actually there were major questions about the 1960 election but Nixon did not advocate contesting the results.

That absurd Politico article that was posted earlier making it sound like Nixon tried to overturn Kennedy's legitimate election is sloppy revisionism.? LBJ's cronies literally stole his election to the Senate in 1948, and Mayor Daley's political machine stole Nixon's victory in Illinois.? The Texas Democrats were so corrupt at that time that Kennedy's win in that state is likewise suspicious.

Robert Caro is one of the best biographers ever, and he's written four- of a planned five-volume biography of LBJ, and is a much more reputable source on LBJ and Texas politics at that time than David Greenburg, who is a biased liberal revisionist. Caro summed up his thoroughly researched opinion as: "stole it--and in the stealing violated even the notably loose boundaries of Texas politics."

The political group that tried to overturn an election in this century was the Democratic party, which kept forcing recounts in Florida's results to overturn Bush's victory in Florida in 2000.? The Supreme Court finally stepped in when Al Gore was trying to force yet another recount that left out swaths of Bush votes.? Had he succeeded, it would have been the most recent stolen presidential election since 1960.















On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 1:49?AM mrvnchpmn via <chapman=[email protected]> wrote:
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1.? Are you making New Years resolutions?
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Not formally, but I often review my goals.

2.? Are you looking forward to the new year?
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Same as every year. I will live until I die and will try to enjoy it.

3.? 2021 was characterized by Jan 6 "insurrection".? Has a political group previously tried to overturn a presidential election?
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I understand that Nixon was involved in something?related, but I did not read in detail.

Actually there were major qauestions about the 160 election but Nixon did not advocate contesting the results.

4.? Elon Musk is advocating unlimited visas for technologically talented individuals - is this a good idea?
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If it benefits the country, sure.
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5.? Did you travel more than fifty?miles this holiday season?
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I live in a travel trailer. We traveled about three thousand to get here for the holidays.

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Re: Friday Five Dec 27

 

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1.? Are you making New Years resolutions?
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Not formally, but I often review my goals.

2.? Are you looking forward to the new year?
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Same as every year. I will live until I die and will try to enjoy it.

3.? 2021 was characterized by Jan 6 "insurrection".? Has a political group previously tried to overturn a presidential election?
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I understand that Nixon was involved in something?related, but I did not read in detail.

Actually there were major qauestions about the 160 election but Nixon did not advocate contesting the results.

4.? Elon Musk is advocating unlimited visas for technologically talented individuals - is this a good idea?
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If it benefits the country, sure.
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5.? Did you travel more than fifty?miles this holiday season?
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I live in a travel trailer. We traveled about three thousand to get here for the holidays.

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Re: Friday Five Dec 27

 

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1.? Are you making New Years resolutions?
No. Why wait for a new year to make resolutions. Make them when you need to.

2.? Are you looking forward to the new year?
Yes. I might retire next year.

3.? 2021 was characterized by Jan 6 "insurrection".? Has a political group presiously tried to overturn a presidential election?
Yes. Nixon and his cronies took a shot at it.


4.? Elon Musk is advocating unlimited visas for technologically tanlented individuals - is this a good idea/
It's hard to say. What would the criteria be? Who would determine it?

5.? Did you travel more than fifty?miles this holiday season?
No. I'm currently on vacation, but I prefer to stay home.

Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
Re: Friday Five Dec 27

 

1.? Are you making New Years resolutions?

Not formally, but I often review my goals.

2.? Are you looking forward to the new year?

Same as every year. I will live until I die and will try to enjoy it.

3.? 2021 was characterized by Jan 6 "insurrection".? Has a political group previously tried to overturn a presidential election?

I understand that Nixon was involved in something?related, but I did not read in detail.

4.? Elon Musk is advocating unlimited visas for technologically talented individuals - is this a good idea?

If it benefits the country, sure.
5.? Did you travel more than fifty?miles this holiday season?

I live in a travel trailer. We traveled about three thousand to get here for the holidays.
Re: Friday Five Dec 27

 

1.? Are you making New Year's resolutions?

Probably; I just have to think them through a little, though.


2.? Are you looking forward to the new year?

Oddly, yes.? It may be worse than the one just ended, except that the political instability should even out.? The Democrats made a mess of the past election, and now they are more subdued.

3.? 2021 was characterized by Jan 6 "insurrection".? Has a political group previously tried to overturn a presidential election?

I don't recall the details, but I recently read John Grinspan's "The Age of Acrimony," which covered elections from 1865-1915, and demonstrated that things were contentious and polarized then as well as they are now.? There have been fights over delegate certification in previous elections when more than one slate of delegates would be sent to the Electoral College and there were fights over which slate should get recognized, as well as deals that were cut, which on one occasion resulted in the losing candidate becoming president.

4.? Elon Musk is advocating unlimited visas for technologically talented individuals - is this a good idea?

It depends on what you mean by "unlimited" and "technologically talented." ?I went back to grad school at Columbia (NYC) engineering school in 2004 for the hell of it, and there were very few domestic students; most were from China or India or somewhere like that.? They were smart, but I don't know how many stayed or went back to where they came from or what happened to them all.? There's always the problem with giving away too much technology.? About then, I met a Russian attending a technical conference in New York, and he spent his time in the university libraries copying everything in his field he could get his hands on.? He picked my brain on the technical aspects of my field, and I told him very little, but it was obvious why he was visiting the USA.

5.? Did you travel more than fifty?miles this holiday season?

No; I strained my back upon arrival in our winter home, and haven't been able to travel or work out very hard for the past two months.? I'm recovering, but it's going to take another month before?I get on an airplane.

On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 5:58?PM mrvnchpmn via <chapman=[email protected]> wrote:
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1.? Are you making New Years resolutions?


Only to limit my resolutions to one.

2.? Are you looking forward to the new year?

Yes - it is shaping up to be a busy one

3.? 2021 was characterized by Jan 6 "insurrection".? Has a political group presiously tried to overturn a presidential election?

Yes 1876 Democratic members of Congress tried to keep Rutherord B Hayes from being inagurated

4.? Elon Musk is advocating unlimited visas for technologically tanlented individuals - is this a good idea/

Emphatically yes

5.? Did you travel more than fifty?miles this holiday season?

No - in fact I have not goine outside since Tuesday and proabably wont' go outside until Sunday when I do my weekly grocery shoppiong
Re: Friday Five Dec 27

 

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1.? Are you making New Years resolutions?


Only to limit my resolutions to one.

2.? Are you looking forward to the new year?

Yes - it is shaping up to be a busy one

3.? 2021 was characterized by Jan 6 "insurrection".? Has a political group presiously tried to overturn a presidential election?

Yes 1876 Democratic members of Congress tried to keep Rutherord B Hayes from being inagurated

4.? Elon Musk is advocating unlimited visas for technologically tanlented individuals - is this a good idea/

Emphatically yes

5.? Did you travel more than fifty?miles this holiday season?

No - in fact I have not goine outside since Tuesday and proabably wont' go outside until Sunday when I do my weekly grocery shoppiong
Friday Five Dec 27

 

1.? Are you making New Years resolutions?

2.? Are you looking forward to the new year?

3.? 2021 was characterized by Jan 6 "insurrection".? Has a political group presiously tried to overturn a presidential election?

4.? Elon Musk is advocating unlimited visas for technologically tanlented individuals - is this a good idea/

5.? Did you travel more than fifty?miles this holiday season?
Re: Friday Five December 20

 

The Question: 4.? Who is the most insignificant politician in the world today?

Celeste answered: Don't know... someone I've never heard of.

...and Darrell is still laughing!

I agree with number 5, too, but I feel like China is just a part of the larger issue. The biggest part, maybe, which validates the answer, yet I feel it might be a mistake to leave all my attention on that part.

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On Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at 11:10?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster=[email protected]> wrote:
No.

For what exactly? You can't pardon someone who has not committed any crime.

Xi Jinping

Don't know... someone I've never heard of.

China's global plan

Aloha,
Celeste Rogers

1.? Will Biden resign before January 20?

2.? If he resigns - will Harris give him a blanket pardon?

3.? Who is the most significant politician in the world today?

4.? Who is the most insignificant politician in the world today?

5.? What do you see at the most dangerous political situation in the world today?
Re: Friday Five December 20

 

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1.? Will Biden resign before January 20?
No.

2.? If he resigns - will Harris give him a blanket pardon?
For what exactly? You can't pardon someone who has not committed any crime.

3.? Who is the most significant politician in the world today?
Xi Jinping

4.? Who is the most insignificant politician in the world today?
Don't know... someone I've never heard of.

5.? What do you see at the most dangerous political situation in the world today?
China's global plan

Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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