Re: Friday Five August 10
Much more likely we'll all have been chemically, psychologically, mechanically, and electronically conditioned to be well behaved automatons. ?What is the ultimate good for managers of billions of people? ?How many workers are needed to do what? ?How many are too many? ?Perhaps in another thousand years the only humans left on earth will be a large group of managers tending a large spherical garden and just enough humanoids to do what little weeding and pruning the machines can't do alone. ?A logical development of the simple idea of rulers and ruled.
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Not love, not hate, but the passion for ignorance is the most fundamental passion of man.
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On Aug 10, 2024, at 09:01, Darrell King <DarrellGKing@...> wrote:
? David said:?
Gives a problem when one lives in a "multicultural" society.? Nobody any longer can agree what's good and what's bad.? The default position in the western world for maybe longer than a half century has been that "everything is relative".? Crazy.? Inhuman.
And Darrell opined: I think it may be sane. A society is always a collection of cultures even if it also shares a culture. Size is a factor as increasing population?quantity increases the likelihood of significant subgroups. Those need to cooperatively agree on the overarching?culture unless they are subjugated?by it and that might be a weak point! Maybe we have just wandered too far from the tribal model?
We have a neatly divided sociopolitical structure, but we have crammed many ethnic, religious, economic and various?other cultures into it, and now they are all butting heads the way so?many have in U.S.?history. I am unsurprised, but I expect that in a century they will have settled into a new balance and be jointly irritated by some new group. If humanity?survives another? five centuries, perhaps?we will have mastered megatribing to the point where the entire species shares one government. Then we can finally build the Enterprise and go exploring!
// ? ?? I believe this would meet acceptable standards?in my culture.? ? ?//
Gives a problem when one lives in a "multicultural" society.? Nobody any longer can agree what's good and what's bad.? The default position in the western world for maybe longer than a half century has been that "everything is relative".? Crazy.? Inhuman.
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Not love, not hate, but the passion for ignorance is the most fundamental passion of man.
? 1.? Is it ethical to rejoice at the death of a bad individual?
ethical adjective eth¡¤i¡¤cal ?e-thi-k?l variants or less commonly ethic ?e-thik Synonyms of ethical 1 : of or relating to ethics ethical theories 2 : involving or expressing moral approval or disapproval ethical judgments 3 : conforming to accepted standards of conduct ethical behavior 4 of a drug : restricted to sale only on a doctor's prescription
I believe morals to be subjective to the culture they apply to or arise from. What is right for me is wrong for others. It would be against?my morals to publicly?rejoice (A very strong word suggesting celebration) at such a situation, although I would consider it a normal and healthy behavior to feel private relief if the individual?had been a threat in some way.? My more public expression might be to acknowledge sadness that the death had occurred?and to work healthy problem solving directed?at the changed situation. I believe this would meet acceptable standards?in my culture.
2.? Is the conflict in the Middle East going to go global?
I feel it will, although the various more powerful players may continue proxy games for a while longer. The U.S. has already adopted military?stances in that theater, as well as in others. Basically, Russia wants Ukraine (and maybe Europe), the Palestinian coalition wants Israel, China wants the South Seas, and the U.S. (and allies) want to stop all those desires from realizing. By independant?move?or hidden Axis agenda, Russia first stepped it up with a direct and invasive use of force on a historically significant level. Hamas followed suit. China is cagier. The Philippines, Israel and Ukraine have dug in?and so now we have broken the ice: war is a current and real tool for political?goals in many areas. Not just limited?third?world power plays, but on a scale already involving global arms and strategic resources. I would say we are only a bomb away from sending in the boots.
3.? Is it likely that another bad actor will use the current situation as an opportunity to make a power grab?
Duh.
4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth?
Insight, critical thinking, and perhaps intelligence. If I state something knowing that I do not know, I am lying even if I score a factual hit. If I do not?know that I do not know, then it is an unintentional misrepresentation?and maybe a stretch of the definition of the word lie?
5.? Does the height of a politician make a difference in electibility?
That questions feels like the answer may be cultural and so my answer would be that it probably does to some people, depending upon personal and cultural perceptions.
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Re: Friday Five August 10
1.? Is it
ethical to rejoice at the death of a bad individual?
To answer that one would need to know what the context is. Who has
determined whether someone is a bad individual?
2.? Is the
conflict in the Middle East going to go global?
Probably not, but it isn't going to go away any time soon.
3.? Is it
likely that another bad actor will use the current
situation as an opportunity to make a power grab?
Exactly which current situation is this question about?
4.? What
is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing
the truth?
Lying is deliberate and self-serving. Not knowing the truth is just
an indicator of ignorance.
5.? Does
the height of a politician make a difference in
electibility?
Not much. I've seen a number of short people win contests over
taller people.
Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
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Re: Friday Five August 10
David said:?
Solo s¨¦ que no s¨¦ nada.? We very seldom know anything.? We lie a *lot*.? Bad.
Darrell agreed: Yes, imagine us actually knowing how little we know? Mu should be part of the public school curriculum.
// ? ? ? 4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth?
Insight, critical thinking, and perhaps intelligence. If I state something knowing that I do not know, I am lying even if I score a factual hit. If I do?not?know that I do not know, then it is an unintentional misrepresentation?and maybe a stretch of the definition of the word lie??? ? ?//
Solo s¨¦ que no s¨¦ nada.? We very seldom know anything.? We lie a *lot*.? Bad.
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Not love, not hate, but the passion for ignorance is the most fundamental passion of man.
? 1.? Is it ethical to rejoice at the death of a bad individual?
ethical adjective eth¡¤i¡¤cal ?e-thi-k?l variants or less commonly ethic ?e-thik Synonyms of ethical 1 : of or relating to ethics ethical theories 2 : involving or expressing moral approval or disapproval ethical judgments 3 : conforming to accepted standards of conduct ethical behavior 4 of a drug : restricted to sale only on a doctor's prescription
I believe morals to be subjective to the culture they apply to or arise from. What is right for me is wrong for others. It would be against?my morals to publicly?rejoice (A very strong word suggesting celebration) at such a situation, although I would consider it a normal and healthy behavior to feel private relief if the individual?had been a threat in some way.? My more public expression might be to acknowledge sadness that the death had occurred?and to work healthy problem solving directed?at the changed situation. I believe this would meet acceptable standards?in my culture.
2.? Is the conflict in the Middle East going to go global?
I feel it will, although the various more powerful players may continue proxy games for a while longer. The U.S. has already adopted military?stances in that theater, as well as in others. Basically, Russia wants Ukraine (and maybe Europe), the Palestinian coalition wants Israel, China wants the South Seas, and the U.S. (and allies) want to stop all those desires from realizing. By independant?move?or hidden Axis agenda, Russia first stepped it up with a direct and invasive use of force on a historically significant level. Hamas followed suit. China is cagier. The Philippines, Israel and Ukraine have dug in?and so now we have broken the ice: war is a current and real tool for political?goals in many areas. Not just limited?third?world power plays, but on a scale already involving global arms and strategic resources. I would say we are only a bomb away from sending in the boots.
3.? Is it likely that another bad actor will use the current situation as an opportunity to make a power grab?
Duh.
4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth?
Insight, critical thinking, and perhaps intelligence. If I state something knowing that I do not know, I am lying even if I score a factual hit. If I do not?know that I do not know, then it is an unintentional misrepresentation?and maybe a stretch of the definition of the word lie?
5.? Does the height of a politician make a difference in electibility?
That questions feels like the answer may be cultural and so my answer would be that it probably does to some people, depending upon personal and cultural perceptions.
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Re: Friday Five August 10
David said:?
Gives a problem when one lives in a "multicultural" society.? Nobody any longer can agree what's good and what's bad.? The default position in the western world for maybe longer than a half century has been that "everything is relative".? Crazy.? Inhuman.
And Darrell opined: I think it may be sane. A society is always a collection of cultures even if it also shares a culture. Size is a factor as increasing population?quantity increases the likelihood of significant subgroups. Those need to cooperatively agree on the overarching?culture unless they are subjugated?by it and that might be a weak point! Maybe we have just wandered too far from the tribal model?
We have a neatly divided sociopolitical structure, but we have crammed many ethnic, religious, economic and various?other cultures into it, and now they are all butting heads the way so?many have in U.S.?history. I am unsurprised, but I expect that in a century they will have settled into a new balance and be jointly irritated by some new group. If humanity?survives another? five centuries, perhaps?we will have mastered megatribing to the point where the entire species shares one government. Then we can finally build the Enterprise and go exploring!
// ? ?? I believe this would meet acceptable standards?in my culture.? ? ?//
Gives a problem when one lives in a "multicultural" society.? Nobody any longer can agree what's good and what's bad.? The default position in the western world for maybe longer than a half century has been that "everything is relative".? Crazy.? Inhuman.
?
Not love, not hate, but the passion for ignorance is the most fundamental passion of man.
? 1.? Is it ethical to rejoice at the death of a bad individual?
ethical adjective eth¡¤i¡¤cal ?e-thi-k?l variants or less commonly ethic ?e-thik Synonyms of ethical 1 : of or relating to ethics ethical theories 2 : involving or expressing moral approval or disapproval ethical judgments 3 : conforming to accepted standards of conduct ethical behavior 4 of a drug : restricted to sale only on a doctor's prescription
I believe morals to be subjective to the culture they apply to or arise from. What is right for me is wrong for others. It would be against?my morals to publicly?rejoice (A very strong word suggesting celebration) at such a situation, although I would consider it a normal and healthy behavior to feel private relief if the individual?had been a threat in some way.? My more public expression might be to acknowledge sadness that the death had occurred?and to work healthy problem solving directed?at the changed situation. I believe this would meet acceptable standards?in my culture.
2.? Is the conflict in the Middle East going to go global?
I feel it will, although the various more powerful players may continue proxy games for a while longer. The U.S. has already adopted military?stances in that theater, as well as in others. Basically, Russia wants Ukraine (and maybe Europe), the Palestinian coalition wants Israel, China wants the South Seas, and the U.S. (and allies) want to stop all those desires from realizing. By independant?move?or hidden Axis agenda, Russia first stepped it up with a direct and invasive use of force on a historically significant level. Hamas followed suit. China is cagier. The Philippines, Israel and Ukraine have dug in?and so now we have broken the ice: war is a current and real tool for political?goals in many areas. Not just limited?third?world power plays, but on a scale already involving global arms and strategic resources. I would say we are only a bomb away from sending in the boots.
3.? Is it likely that another bad actor will use the current situation as an opportunity to make a power grab?
Duh.
4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth?
Insight, critical thinking, and perhaps intelligence. If I state something knowing that I do not know, I am lying even if I score a factual hit. If I do not?know that I do not know, then it is an unintentional misrepresentation?and maybe a stretch of the definition of the word lie?
5.? Does the height of a politician make a difference in electibility?
That questions feels like the answer may be cultural and so my answer would be that it probably does to some people, depending upon personal and cultural perceptions.
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// ? ? ? 4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth?
Insight, critical thinking, and perhaps intelligence. If I state something knowing that I do not know, I am lying even if I score a factual hit. If I do?not?know that I do not know, then it is an unintentional misrepresentation?and maybe a stretch of the definition of the word lie??? ? ?//
Solo s¨¦ que no s¨¦ nada. ?We very seldom know anything. ?We lie a *lot*. ?Bad.
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Not love, not hate, but the passion for ignorance is the most fundamental passion of man.
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On Aug 9, 2024, at 08:58, Darrell King <DarrellGKing@...> wrote:
? 1.? Is it ethical to rejoice at the death of a bad individual?
ethical adjective eth¡¤i¡¤cal ?e-thi-k?l variants or less commonly ethic ?e-thik Synonyms of ethical 1 : of or relating to ethics ethical theories 2 : involving or expressing moral approval or disapproval ethical judgments 3 : conforming to accepted standards of conduct ethical behavior 4 of a drug : restricted to sale only on a doctor's prescription
I believe morals to be subjective to the culture they apply to or arise from. What is right for me is wrong for others. It would be against?my morals to publicly?rejoice (A very strong word suggesting celebration) at such a situation, although I would consider it a normal and healthy behavior to feel private relief if the individual?had been a threat in some way.? My more public expression might be to acknowledge sadness that the death had occurred?and to work healthy problem solving directed?at the changed situation. I believe this would meet acceptable standards?in my culture.
2.? Is the conflict in the Middle East going to go global?
I feel it will, although the various more powerful players may continue proxy games for a while longer. The U.S. has already adopted military?stances in that theater, as well as in others. Basically, Russia wants Ukraine (and maybe Europe), the Palestinian coalition wants Israel, China wants the South Seas, and the U.S. (and allies) want to stop all those desires from realizing. By independant?move?or hidden Axis agenda, Russia first stepped it up with a direct and invasive use of force on a historically significant level. Hamas followed suit. China is cagier. The Philippines, Israel and Ukraine have dug in?and so now we have broken the ice: war is a current and real tool for political?goals in many areas. Not just limited?third?world power plays, but on a scale already involving global arms and strategic resources. I would say we are only a bomb away from sending in the boots.
3.? Is it likely that another bad actor will use the current situation as an opportunity to make a power grab?
Duh.
4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth?
Insight, critical thinking, and perhaps intelligence. If I state something knowing that I do not know, I am lying even if I score a factual hit. If I do not?know that I do not know, then it is an unintentional misrepresentation?and maybe a stretch of the definition of the word lie?
5.? Does the height of a politician make a difference in electibility?
That questions feels like the answer may be cultural and so my answer would be that it probably does to some people, depending upon personal and cultural perceptions.
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// ? ?? I believe this would meet acceptable standards?in my culture.? ? ?//
Gives a problem when one lives in a "multicultural" society. ?Nobody any longer can agree what's good and what's bad. ?The default position in the western world for maybe longer than a half century has been that "everything is relative". ?Crazy. ?Inhuman.
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Not love, not hate, but the passion for ignorance is the most fundamental passion of man.
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On Aug 9, 2024, at 08:58, Darrell King <DarrellGKing@...> wrote:
? 1.? Is it ethical to rejoice at the death of a bad individual?
ethical adjective eth¡¤i¡¤cal ?e-thi-k?l variants or less commonly ethic ?e-thik Synonyms of ethical 1 : of or relating to ethics ethical theories 2 : involving or expressing moral approval or disapproval ethical judgments 3 : conforming to accepted standards of conduct ethical behavior 4 of a drug : restricted to sale only on a doctor's prescription
I believe morals to be subjective to the culture they apply to or arise from. What is right for me is wrong for others. It would be against?my morals to publicly?rejoice (A very strong word suggesting celebration) at such a situation, although I would consider it a normal and healthy behavior to feel private relief if the individual?had been a threat in some way.? My more public expression might be to acknowledge sadness that the death had occurred?and to work healthy problem solving directed?at the changed situation. I believe this would meet acceptable standards?in my culture.
2.? Is the conflict in the Middle East going to go global?
I feel it will, although the various more powerful players may continue proxy games for a while longer. The U.S. has already adopted military?stances in that theater, as well as in others. Basically, Russia wants Ukraine (and maybe Europe), the Palestinian coalition wants Israel, China wants the South Seas, and the U.S. (and allies) want to stop all those desires from realizing. By independant?move?or hidden Axis agenda, Russia first stepped it up with a direct and invasive use of force on a historically significant level. Hamas followed suit. China is cagier. The Philippines, Israel and Ukraine have dug in?and so now we have broken the ice: war is a current and real tool for political?goals in many areas. Not just limited?third?world power plays, but on a scale already involving global arms and strategic resources. I would say we are only a bomb away from sending in the boots.
3.? Is it likely that another bad actor will use the current situation as an opportunity to make a power grab?
Duh.
4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth?
Insight, critical thinking, and perhaps intelligence. If I state something knowing that I do not know, I am lying even if I score a factual hit. If I do not?know that I do not know, then it is an unintentional misrepresentation?and maybe a stretch of the definition of the word lie?
5.? Does the height of a politician make a difference in electibility?
That questions feels like the answer may be cultural and so my answer would be that it probably does to some people, depending upon personal and cultural perceptions.
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unfortunately true - and Iran certainly has a bunch of radioactive material
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That's a big concern, since a conventional bomb with some radioactive elements attached could contaminate a large part of a city and render it inhabitable.
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If Iran uses nuclear weapons including just radioactive additions to conventional explosives I think Israel would make sure Tehran is not inhabitablle for a few decades.
1.? Is it ethical to rejoice at the death of a bad individual?
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That all depends on what you mean by "ethical," "rejoice," and "bad." ??
2.? Is the conflict in the Middle East going to go global?
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It certainly has that possibility, though it's also preventable if the USA and Russia would just stay out of it.? Neither country really has the heart to go to war over the?Middle East, but the USA is so pro-Isreali and anti-Iranian that we could get involved, especially if Iran uses nuclear weapons on Israel.
3.? Is it likely that another bad actor will use the current situation as an opportunity to make a power grab?
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Russia, China, and North Korea, are all possibilities, depending on how desperate they get or what opportunities they see with a weakened USA making mistakes or getting overextended somewhere.
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4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth?
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One is accidental, the other is deliberate.? Being wrong on something is no sin, but spreading something that is known to be untrue is.
5.? Does the height of a politician make a difference in electibility?
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Voters have shown a historical preference for taller candidates, just as they often prefer men and more handsome and younger candidates.? Some short politicians have been very successful, though, so it depends on who they are running against.
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Ed
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1.? Is it ethical to rejoice at the death of a bad individual?
2.? Is the conflict in the Middle East going to go global?
3.? Is it likely that another bad actor will use the current situation as an opportunity to make a power grab?
4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth?
5.? Does the height of a politician make a difference in electibility?
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Marvin wrote: " If Iran uses nuclear weapons including just radioactive additions to conventional explosives I think Israel would make sure Tehran is not habitable for a few decades."
That's a big concern, since a conventional bomb with some radioactive elements attached could contaminate a large part of a city and render it inhabitable.
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If Iran uses nuclear weapons including just radioactive additions to conventional explosives I think Israel would make sure Tehran is not inhabitablle for a few decades.
1.? Is it ethical to rejoice at the death of a bad individual?
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That all depends on what you mean by "ethical," "rejoice," and "bad." ??
2.? Is the conflict in the Middle East going to go global?
?
It certainly has that possibility, though it's also preventable if the USA and Russia would just stay out of it.? Neither country really has the heart to go to war over the?Middle East, but the USA is so pro-Isreali and anti-Iranian that we could get involved, especially if Iran uses nuclear weapons on Israel.
3.? Is it likely that another bad actor will use the current situation as an opportunity to make a power grab?
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Russia, China, and North Korea, are all possibilities, depending on how desperate they get or what opportunities they see with a weakened USA making mistakes or getting overextended somewhere.
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4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth?
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One is accidental, the other is deliberate.? Being wrong on something is no sin, but spreading something that is known to be untrue is.
5.? Does the height of a politician make a difference in electibility?
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Voters have shown a historical preference for taller candidates, just as they often prefer men and more handsome and younger candidates.? Some short politicians have been very successful, though, so it depends on who they are running against.
?
Ed
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1.? Is it ethical to rejoice at the death of a bad individual?
2.? Is the conflict in the Middle East going to go global?
3.? Is it likely that another bad actor will use the current situation as an opportunity to make a power grab?
4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth?
5.? Does the height of a politician make a difference in electibility?
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1.? Is it ethical to rejoice at the death of a bad individual?
The bigger question is who determines the badness of an individual
2.? Is the conflict in the Middle East going to go global?
I think it already has.
3.? Is it likely that another bad actor will use the current situation as an opportunity to make a power grab?
Very likely - as one poster put it - it has already started
4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth?
To tell a liie one has to know the truth - otherwise a person is merely ignorant - which happens to all of us.
5.? Does the height of a politician make a difference in electibility?
It sees to - the one recent exception was Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter.
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If Iran uses nuclear weapons including just radioactive additions to conventional explosives I think Israel would make sure Tehran is not inhabitablle for a few decades.
1.? Is it ethical to rejoice at the death of a bad individual?
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That all depends on what you mean by "ethical," "rejoice," and "bad." ??
2.? Is the conflict in the Middle East going to go global?
?
It certainly has that possibility, though it's also preventable if the USA and Russia would just stay out of it.? Neither country really has the heart to go to war over the?Middle East, but the USA is so pro-Isreali and anti-Iranian that we could get involved, especially if Iran uses nuclear weapons on Israel.
3.? Is it likely that another bad actor will use the current situation as an opportunity to make a power grab?
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Russia, China, and North Korea, are all possibilities, depending on how desperate they get or what opportunities they see with a weakened USA making mistakes or getting overextended somewhere.
?
4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth?
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One is accidental, the other is deliberate.? Being wrong on something is no sin, but spreading something that is known to be untrue is.
5.? Does the height of a politician make a difference in electibility?
?
Voters have shown a historical preference for taller candidates, just as they often prefer men and more handsome and younger candidates.? Some short politicians have been very successful, though, so it depends on who they are running against.
?
Ed
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1.? Is it ethical to rejoice at the death of a bad individual?
2.? Is the conflict in the Middle East going to go global?
3.? Is it likely that another bad actor will use the current situation as an opportunity to make a power grab?
4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth?
5.? Does the height of a politician make a difference in electibility?
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1.? Is it ethical to rejoice at the death of a bad individual?
That all depends on what you mean by "ethical," "rejoice," and "bad." ??
2.? Is the conflict in the Middle East going to go global?
It certainly has that possibility, though it's also preventable if the USA and Russia would just stay out of it.? Neither country really has the heart to go to war over the?Middle East, but the USA is so pro-Isreali and anti-Iranian that we could get involved, especially if Iran uses nuclear weapons on Israel.
3.? Is it likely that another bad actor will use the current situation as an opportunity to make a power grab?
Russia, China, and North Korea, are all possibilities, depending on how desperate they get or what opportunities they see with a weakened USA making mistakes or getting overextended somewhere.
4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth?
One is accidental, the other is deliberate.? Being wrong on something is no sin, but spreading something that is known to be untrue is.
5.? Does the height of a politician make a difference in electibility?
Voters have shown a historical preference for taller candidates, just as they often prefer men and more handsome and younger candidates.? Some short politicians have been very successful, though, so it depends on who they are running against.
Ed
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?
1.? Is it ethical to rejoice at the death of a bad individual?
2.? Is the conflict in the Middle East going to go global?
3.? Is it likely that another bad actor will use the current situation as an opportunity to make a power grab?
4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth?
5.? Does the height of a politician make a difference in electibility?
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Re: Friday Five August 10
1.? Is it ethical to rejoice at the death of a bad individual?
ethical adjective eth¡¤i¡¤cal ?e-thi-k?l variants or less commonly ethic ?e-thik Synonyms of ethical 1 : of or relating to ethics ethical theories 2 : involving or expressing moral approval or disapproval ethical judgments 3 : conforming to accepted standards of conduct ethical behavior 4 of a drug : restricted to sale only on a doctor's prescription
I believe morals to be subjective to the culture they apply to or arise from. What is right for me is wrong for others. It would be against?my morals to publicly?rejoice (A very strong word suggesting celebration) at such a situation, although I would consider it a normal and healthy behavior to feel private relief if the individual?had been a threat in some way.? My more public expression might be to acknowledge sadness that the death had occurred?and to work healthy problem solving directed?at the changed situation. I believe this would meet acceptable standards?in my culture.
2.? Is the conflict in the Middle East going to go global?
I feel it will, although the various more powerful players may continue proxy games for a while longer. The U.S. has already adopted military?stances in that theater, as well as in others. Basically, Russia wants Ukraine (and maybe Europe), the Palestinian coalition wants Israel, China wants the South Seas, and the U.S. (and allies) want to stop all those desires from realizing. By independant?move?or hidden Axis agenda, Russia first stepped it up with a direct and invasive use of force on a historically significant level. Hamas followed suit. China is cagier. The Philippines, Israel and Ukraine have dug in?and so now we have broken the ice: war is a current and real tool for political?goals in many areas. Not just limited?third?world power plays, but on a scale already involving global arms and strategic resources. I would say we are only a bomb away from sending in the boots.
3.? Is it likely that another bad actor will use the current situation as an opportunity to make a power grab?
Duh.
4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth?
Insight, critical thinking, and perhaps intelligence. If I state something knowing that I do not know, I am lying even if I score a factual hit. If I do not?know that I do not know, then it is an unintentional misrepresentation?and maybe a stretch of the definition of the word lie?
5.? Does the height of a politician make a difference in electibility?
That questions feels like the answer may be cultural and so my answer would be that it probably does to some people, depending upon personal and cultural perceptions.
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Re: Friday Five August 10
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1.? Is it ethical to rejoice at the death of a bad individual?
2.? Is the conflict in the Middle East going to go global?
3.? Is it likely that another bad actor will use the current situation as an opportunity to make a power grab?
4.? What is the difference between telling a lie and not knowing the truth?
5.? Does the height of a politician make a difference in electibility?
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Re: [m-scholars-and-scribes] Re: Friday Five August 2
Celeste said: "If they have not been detected then how can they be tested?"
And Darrell...is still?laughing...
On Sat, Aug 3, 2024 at 1:39?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster= [email protected]> wrote:
1.? Was
Biden's withdrawal from the presidential race a coup?
No, not in any way.
2.? Have
labor saving devices eliminated the necessity to learn
practical skills?
This is a very broad question. Which labor saving devices?
3.? Have
you ever considered an act of violence against another
person - no details please?
No.
4.?
Should all illegal immigrants be tested for
communicable diseases before release into the general
population?
If they have not been detected then how can they be tested?
5.? Was
Russia releasing three American prisoners an election
gambit to defeat Trump?
No.
Aloha.
Celeste Rogers
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Re: [m-scholars-and-scribes] Re: Friday Five August 2
1.? Was
Biden's withdrawal from the presidential race a coup?
No, not in any way.
2.? Have
labor saving devices eliminated the necessity to learn
practical skills?
This is a very broad question. Which labor saving devices?
3.? Have
you ever considered an act of violence against another
person - no details please?
No.
4.?
Should all illegal immigrants be tested for
communicable diseases before release into the general
population?
If they have not been detected then how can they be tested?
5.? Was
Russia releasing three American prisoners an election
gambit to defeat Trump?
No.
Aloha.
Celeste Rogers
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1.? Was Biden's withdrawal from the presidential race a coup?
I think it was an operation by power brokers within the party? - whether to call? it a coup or not is another question.
2.? Have labor saving devices eliminated the necessity to learn practical skills?
To a degree.? I remember a GS9 engineer (working level who eventually went to work for Boeing) telling me 3x4/3 was 3.8.? When I asked him why - he showed me the calculation on a four function calculator.? I have never completely trusted electronic devices ever since.
3.? Have you ever considered an act of violence against another person - no details please?
Yes - I was bullied in grammer school and high school and in work places over a period of thirtyyears.? Why I never went over the dge is sometimes beyond me - I can understand why these young me go ballistic.
4.? Should all illegal immigrants be tested for communicable diseases before release into the general population?
Emphatically yes
5.? Was Russia releasing three American prisoners an election gambit to defeat Trump?
Very likely - I don't think Putin wants to see Trump in charge again.
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1.? Was Biden's withdrawal from the presidential race a coup?
Perhaps not intentionally, but I bet it is capitalized on in a similar manner. All's fair in politics, love and war. A man gets ill and it is a weakness for the wolves to exploit! I do not think that the illness was artificially applied, but it was obviously exploited. I have seen a similar mentality at work in Trump's case and I have no doubt there will be extreme ad-hominem styling applied to Harris and Vance and the Democratic VP pick.??
It is justified by the field as shaking out a candidate's suitability and fitness to hold public office. This holds some merit, of course, but there is an approach that uses evidence to substantiate a related assertion and there are also more emotional, assaultive stances. It might be easy to blend and confuse one of the latter with a coup. Bloody arena, that political one!
In this case, there is half a chance that the replacement will successful carry the Democrats to victory, so if it was a coup, it was one internal to the party!
2.? Have labor saving devices eliminated the necessity to learn practical skills?
No. I find that one lifetime is not enough to learn all the skills I would like to learn anyway, but having an electric screwdriver or a nail gun means I can explore carpentry further and so I get more exposure?to related skills while also accomplishing things that would not be possible were I needing to spend months learning the proper way to manually drive a nail. In the end, I also learn that latter as a byproduct of being motivated by my accomplishments to do more of the same.
Calculators? Well, we needed to do mental math because we did not have them. Now we have?them--and also autos and can openers. If we lose them during Armageddon, there are plenty of references that can be used to return to manual math, but who is to say that would be the best course for humanity, or for me?
I follow a skilled young lady on FB who is a skilled knapper of flint and obsidian, a bone worker and wood carver. She also teaches wilderness survival with an emphasis on low-tech tools and primitive skills. Awesome way to revisit history and potentially?useful, even lifesaving, skillsets?ready to learn. It is a shame indoor plumbing, metalworking and refrigerators have eliminated our need to learn these things.
3.? Have you ever considered an act of violence against another person - no details please?
Yes? I am descended from omnivorous predators, bequeathed a human mind with human emotions and a human life filled with adversity and frustration. I consider this a normal?thought. I do not remember having actually planned a violent assault, but I do remember the occasional?daydream!
As an aside, I do not use violence as a tool to a goal except?in self-defense or the protection of others. This is not because I live by superior ideals, but it feels like a native values-driven attitude for me.
4.? Should all illegal immigrants be tested for communicable diseases before release into the general population?
Duh. As I travel?about the U.S., I am often greeted with campground signs admonishing me to avoid carrying firewood from place to place as it transports invasive species about. A simple attempt to regulate an obvious problem. I would place such testing in the same common sense?category.
5.? Was Russia releasing three American prisoners an election gambit to defeat Trump?
Perhaps not primarily, but I bet it is capitalized on in a similar manner. All's fair in politics, love and war. It was a good move and I am sure the?victory will be exploited by the Democratic Party. I cannot grudge that because it was an honest and laudable success.
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On Thursday, August 1, 2024, mrvnchpmn via <chapman= [email protected]> wrote:
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1.? Was Biden's withdrawal from the presidential race a coup?
It was an internal coup. The party realized Biden was a sure loss, and they didn¡¯t want to face the uncertainty of a convention.
2.? Have labor saving devices eliminated the necessity to learn practical skills? ?Not by a long shot, though some skills are becoming obsolete.
3.? Have you ever considered an act of violence against another person - no details please?
?Not that I can recall.? Hitting my sibling as a little kid doesn¡¯t count.
4.? Should all illegal immigrants be tested for communicable diseases before release into the general population?
Why not, legal immigrants have had to be tested in the past?
5.? Was Russia releasing three American prisoners an election gambit to defeat Trump?
? ? ? I thought it might have been something Putin did to boost Trump.
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1.? Was Biden's withdrawal from the presidential race a coup?
2.? Have labor saving devices eliminated the necessity to learn practical skills?
3.? Have you ever considered an act of violence against another person - no details please?
4.? Should all illegal immigrants be tested for communicable diseases before release into the general population?
5.? Was Russia releasing three American prisoners an election gambit to defeat Trump?
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Re: [M-Positive} Re: Friday Five July 26
They sure do dominate Amazon!
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On Tue, Jul 30, 2024 at 7:47?PM 't bill' via M-Positive < m-positive@...> wrote: Well said, Pat.
Made me wonder.... would you rather have a government of these clowns, aspiring to become a Marxist dictatorship, or live under China's bully Xi, the real thing?? At least China is competent.?
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On Monday, July 29, 2024 at 11:58:59 PM EDT, Pat Trivers < pat_trivers@...> wrote:
. 1.? Should Israel be charged with war crimes for attacking Gaza? ? Of course not. Defending your country against a vicious invading enemy is not a war crime. Trying to rescue your people being held hostage by the most brutal, sub-human creatures on earth is not a war crime. Destroying the fighting capability of an evil, sub-human terrorist gang is not a war crime. And note that Israel is doing all of this while inflicting the smallest amount of damage on the non-combat citizens of any urban warfare in history. Israel should be getting accolades and recognition, both for the amazing precision and care of their fighting, and for helping to save the rest of the world from another evil Islamist terrorist group. Hamas is at least as bad as al Qaeda and Isis, and their goal is not just to destroy Israel, but to go on from there to take over and Islamize the world, together with all the other evil Islamist gangs and regimes.? ? 2.? Will the new candidate have a better, worse or same chance against Trump? ? If the voters were sufficiently intelligent and informed, neither of them would have any chance against Mr. Trump. Sadly, that is not the case. There are too many voters with such severe Trump Derangement Syndrome that they would vote for a ham sandwich if it was running as a Democrat. And many of them are stupid enough to vote for a woman just because she is a woman, instead of looking at whether she has any capacity or ability to do the job. Strangely, many of them are the same people who claim not to know what a woman is. ? 3.? If somehow Trump withdrew who would be most likely to take his place? ? No idea. He seems, right now, like the only man who can save the world. But he only gets 4 years. The world is in such a mess, I don't know that it can be saved at all, even by Mr. Trump, and especially in just 4 years. ? 4.? Should Biden resign the presidency? ? Of course he should, the man barely knows where he is or who he is. He is not the president and hasn't been throughout this entire charade of a presidency. But Kamala Harris is just as bad, though in different ways. She may not have dementia or Parkinson's, but she is hopelessly stupid and completely infected and controlled by the woke mind virus. So is/are the shadowy background figures who have been running the presidency for the last 3 1/2 years, so nothing would change if Biden resigned. ? 5.? Who will be the Democratic Vice Presidential nominee? ? No idea. No doubt she'll pick some woke mind virus infected clown much like herself. The world is watching, and we can only hope that the US voters wake up enough to vote for Mr. Trump, and somehow keep the Democrats from cheating their way into power again. ? Pat
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2/? Will the new candidate have a better, worse or same chance against Trump?
3.? If somehow Trump withdrew who would be most likely to take his place?
4.? Should Biden resign the presidency?
5.? Who will be the Democratic Vice Presidential nominee?
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