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Re: Friday Five Dec 27
Yes, I think Nixon lost the election of 1060.
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E On Friday, December 27, 2024, Darrell King via <DarrellGKing=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Friday Five Dec 27
"Actually there were major questions about the 160 election but Nixon did not advocate contesting the results." Ah. Must be why it came up in the search. Teach me to rush through my research... :) D On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:49?AM mrvnchpmn via <chapman=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Friday Five Dec 27
Celeste said: " I might retire next year." And Darrell replied: Welcome to the 'in' crowd, Celeste! On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 8:54?PM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Friday Five Dec 27
3.? 2021 was characterized by Jan 6 "insurrection".? Has a political group previously tried to overturn a presidential election? ? I understand that Nixon was involved in something?related, but I did not read in detail. Actually there were major questions about the 1960 election but Nixon did not advocate contesting the results. That absurd Politico article that was posted earlier making it sound like Nixon tried to overturn Kennedy's legitimate election is sloppy revisionism.? LBJ's cronies literally stole his election to the Senate in 1948, and Mayor Daley's political machine stole Nixon's victory in Illinois.? The Texas Democrats were so corrupt at that time that Kennedy's win in that state is likewise suspicious. Robert Caro is one of the best biographers ever, and he's written four- of a planned five-volume biography of LBJ, and is a much more reputable source on LBJ and Texas politics at that time than David Greenburg, who is a biased liberal revisionist. Caro summed up his thoroughly researched opinion as: "stole it--and in the stealing violated even the notably loose boundaries of Texas politics." The political group that tried to overturn an election in this century was the Democratic party, which kept forcing recounts in Florida's results to overturn Bush's victory in Florida in 2000.? The Supreme Court finally stepped in when Al Gore was trying to force yet another recount that left out swaths of Bush votes.? Had he succeeded, it would have been the most recent stolen presidential election since 1960. On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 1:49?AM mrvnchpmn via <chapman=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Friday Five Dec 27
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Not formally, but I often review my goals.
2.? Are you looking forward to the new year? ?
Same as every year. I will live until I die and will try to enjoy it.
3.? 2021 was characterized by Jan 6 "insurrection".? Has a political group previously tried to overturn a presidential election? ?
I understand that Nixon was involved in something?related, but I did not read in detail.
Actually there were major qauestions about the 160 election but Nixon did not advocate contesting the results. 4.? Elon Musk is advocating unlimited visas for technologically talented individuals - is this a good idea? ?
If it benefits the country, sure.
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I live in a travel trailer. We traveled about three thousand to get here for the holidays.
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Re: Friday Five Dec 27
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýNo. Why wait for a new year to make resolutions. Make them when you need to. Yes. I might retire next year. Yes. Nixon and his cronies took a shot at it. It's hard to say. What would the criteria be? Who would determine it? No. I'm currently on vacation, but I prefer to stay home. Aloha, Celeste Rogers |
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Re: Friday Five Dec 27
1.? Are you making New Years resolutions? Not formally, but I often review my goals. 2.? Are you looking forward to the new year? Same as every year. I will live until I die and will try to enjoy it. 3.? 2021 was characterized by Jan 6 "insurrection".? Has a political group previously tried to overturn a presidential election? I understand that Nixon was involved in something?related, but I did not read in detail. 4.? Elon Musk is advocating unlimited visas for technologically talented individuals - is this a good idea? If it benefits the country, sure.
5.? Did you travel more than fifty?miles this holiday season? I live in a travel trailer. We traveled about three thousand to get here for the holidays.
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Re: Friday Five Dec 27
1.? Are you making New Year's resolutions? Probably; I just have to think them through a little, though. 2.? Are you looking forward to the new year? Oddly, yes.? It may be worse than the one just ended, except that the political instability should even out.? The Democrats made a mess of the past election, and now they are more subdued. 3.? 2021 was characterized by Jan 6 "insurrection".? Has a political group previously tried to overturn a presidential election? I don't recall the details, but I recently read John Grinspan's "The Age of Acrimony," which covered elections from 1865-1915, and demonstrated that things were contentious and polarized then as well as they are now.? There have been fights over delegate certification in previous elections when more than one slate of delegates would be sent to the Electoral College and there were fights over which slate should get recognized, as well as deals that were cut, which on one occasion resulted in the losing candidate becoming president. 4.? Elon Musk is advocating unlimited visas for technologically talented individuals - is this a good idea? It depends on what you mean by "unlimited" and "technologically talented." ?I went back to grad school at Columbia (NYC) engineering school in 2004 for the hell of it, and there were very few domestic students; most were from China or India or somewhere like that.? They were smart, but I don't know how many stayed or went back to where they came from or what happened to them all.? There's always the problem with giving away too much technology.? About then, I met a Russian attending a technical conference in New York, and he spent his time in the university libraries copying everything in his field he could get his hands on.? He picked my brain on the technical aspects of my field, and I told him very little, but it was obvious why he was visiting the USA. 5.? Did you travel more than fifty?miles this holiday season? No; I strained my back upon arrival in our winter home, and haven't been able to travel or work out very hard for the past two months.? I'm recovering, but it's going to take another month before?I get on an airplane. On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 5:58?PM mrvnchpmn via <chapman=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Friday Five Dec 27
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Only to limit my resolutions to one. 2.? Are you looking forward to the new year? Yes - it is shaping up to be a busy one 3.? 2021 was characterized by Jan 6 "insurrection".? Has a political group presiously tried to overturn a presidential election? Yes 1876 Democratic members of Congress tried to keep Rutherord B Hayes from being inagurated 4.? Elon Musk is advocating unlimited visas for technologically tanlented individuals - is this a good idea/ Emphatically yes 5.? Did you travel more than fifty?miles this holiday season? No - in fact I have not goine outside since Tuesday and proabably wont' go outside until Sunday when I do my weekly grocery shoppiong |
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Friday Five Dec 27
1.? Are you making New Years resolutions?
2.? Are you looking forward to the new year? 3.? 2021 was characterized by Jan 6 "insurrection".? Has a political group presiously tried to overturn a presidential election? 4.? Elon Musk is advocating unlimited visas for technologically tanlented individuals - is this a good idea/ 5.? Did you travel more than fifty?miles this holiday season? |
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Re: Friday Five December 20
The Question: 4.? Who is the most insignificant politician in the world today? Celeste answered: Don't know... someone I've never heard of. ...and Darrell is still laughing! I agree with number 5, too, but I feel like China is just a part of the larger issue. The biggest part, maybe, which validates the answer, yet I feel it might be a mistake to leave all my attention on that part. D On Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at 11:10?AM a1thighmaster via <thighmaster=[email protected]> wrote: No.For what exactly? You can't pardon someone who has not committed any crime. Xi Jinping Don't know... someone I've never heard of. China's global plan Aloha, Celeste Rogers 1.? Will Biden resign before January 20? 2.? If he resigns - will Harris give him a blanket pardon? 3.? Who is the most significant politician in the world today? 4.? Who is the most insignificant politician in the world today? 5.? What do you see at the most dangerous political situation in the world today? |
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Re: Friday Five December 20
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýNo. For what exactly? You can't pardon someone who has not committed any crime. Xi Jinping Don't know... someone I've never heard of. China's global plan Aloha, Celeste Rogers |
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Re: Friday Five December 20
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Question of the year - it would notr surprise me 2.? If he resigns - will Harris give him a blanket pardon? I think it would be part of the bargain if he did? Her political career at the national level is toast so she has nothing to lose. 3.? Who is the most significant politician in the world today? I don't know but I would think mayb e Uptin - he certainly is the one with the most to lose and the most to use. 4.? Who is the most insignificant politician in the world today? Right now Joe Biden - though he apparently returned from vacation this morning. 5.? What do you see at the most dangerous political situation in the world today? The Middle East - just as has been for the last seventy five years., .?? |
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Re: Friday Five December 20
1.? Will Biden resign before January 20? I am not sure why he would? I probably missed something in the news, right? He is just sitting quietly, under the radar, ticking off things he can accomplish?to exit in due time far more gracefully than a resignation would suggest. He can leave a professional legacy that is more palatable for his family just by waiting it out in comfort. Except for a few drones and some weather issues... 2.? If he resigns - will Harris give him a blanket pardon? For? 3.? Who is the most significant politician in the world today? Elon? I mean, that is a broad question but why not point at the world's richest man and his sudden rise to Earthside power. He certainly has a head start off-planet! 4.? Who is the most insignificant politician in the world today? Again, so broad.?
Bashar al-Assad? We should give credit for losing an entire country due to running an army that specializes?in retreat...
5.? What do you see as the most dangerous political situation in the world today? The determination of the Axis powers to frame global equality as a war between East and West. Not that many Western?powers do not also demonize certain Eastern regimes or groups, but there seems to be a lot of rhetoric on the Eastern side to demand destruction of certain Western nations or other groups.? |
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Re: Friday Five December 20
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2.? If he resigns - will Harris give him a blanket pardon? 3.? Who is the most significant politician in the world today? 4.? Who is the most insignificant politician in the world today? 5.? What do you see at the most dangerous political situation in the world today? .?? |
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Re: Friday Five December 13
. 1.? Were you surprised by the deposal of Assad in Syria? Surprised that it happened so quickly. Surprised that it happened at all, with the support he had from Iran and Russia. ? 2.? Which world leader do you think will be the next to be deposed? The Islamist regime in Iran seems ripe for it. They have been massively weakened by the loss of Hezbollah, Hamas, and now Syria and all of Syria's weapons. The people of Iran have wanted them gone for a very long time. Israel has already taken out some of their own weapons, and their ability to detect approaching attacks. Now is the time to do it. It is absolutely imperative for the survival of the world that Iran does not get nuclear weapons. The best way to prevent that is to do away with the regime.? ? 3.? Should drugs be decriminalized / and or sold over the counter - especailly opiate pain relievers? Good Lord no. Getting hooked on opioids would lead to a far worse life than living with pain.? ? 4.? ?Were you surprised that Trump was named Person of the Year by Time Magazine? Yes. Not because he didn't deserve it, but because all those magazines are run by leftists who ignore Mr Trump. He should have won a Nobel Peace Prize for the Abraham Accords, but his accomplishments were not even reported by the MSM. ? ?5. Unidentified drones have been flying over New Jersey and New York.? What should the governments response to this be and which part of which government should have the atuhority to intervene? You have a Dept. of Homeland Security do you not? This would seem to be the time to use them. Who knows where they came from or what they might do? Just leaving them alone seems very risky. ? Pat
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Re: Friday Five December 6
. 1.? Hunter Biden pardon ? ? Was that who he pardoned for Thanksgiving? Thought it was usually a turkey ... ? 2.? Did it surprise you? ? Not really. This guy will do anything. ? 3.? Was it ethical? ? Does not seem so, but I don't know the rules. ? 4.? Who else will he pardon? ? Himself? There's talk of him pre-emptively pardoning everyone he's had breaking the law for him, which would seem to include the entire FBI, DOJ, and Democrat Party. Seems like an obvious admission of guilt. Is it even allowed? ? 5.? Should the power to pardon be removed from presidents who are lame duck? ? What difference does that make? The whole idea of granting pardons is bizarre and anachronistic. Another indication that the position of President in your system is based on the King in mine. But is stuck in some earlier century when the King had absolute power. Back then he could pardon anyone he pleased. I don't think he can anymore.? ? Pat
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Re: Friday Five December 13
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýNot entirely. It's about time Assad ran away. Hopefully it will be Nicol¨¢s Maduro. Decriminalized, yes. Sold over the counter, definitely not. Not really. It's not necessarily an honor. It's just about who has influenced the world. After all, the following individuals have also been Time's Person of the Year: Joseph Stalin (1939, 1942); Nikita Khrushchev (1957); Yuri Andropov (1983); and Mikhail Gorbachev (1987, 1989); Adolf Hitler (1938); Deng Xiaoping (1978, 1985); Chiang Kai-shek (1937); Ruhollah Khomeini (1979). Caution is the correct response. Who knows what those drones might harbor. Aloha, Celeste Rogers |
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Re: Friday Five December 13
1.? Were you surprised by the deposal of Assad in Syria? A little.? I would have expected a move on an Allied?country by the Terrorist Axis, but now? am getting the impression (without deep exploration) that the incoming regime?may be more actively?radical than?the lethargic outgoing folks. Inn other words, maybe the Axis is firming up its foundation as the world prepares for mutual destruction. 2.? Which world leader do you think will be the next to be deposed? Pakistan has been kinda ho-hum based upon its media impact... 3.? Should drugs be decriminalized / and or sold over the counter - especially opiate pain relievers? The whole system is kinda topheavy and more than?a little focused on special interest profiteering. I think regulation for safety is vital, yet punishing those who could benefit from a given medication because others have used that same med recreationally or as chemical coping is a very inefficient outcome. Now we have created an?entire criminal culture based on the approach. If some people?want to be hopeless stoned drones, it is probably cheaper to let them ride it out. Thos who can function get food and?housing, those who cannot will? have a rougher time of things. 4.? ?Were you surprised that Trump was named Person of the Year by Time Magazine? Did not even know it had happened. It? seems to me to be kind of trivial. 5. Unidentified drones have been flying over New Jersey and New York.? What should the government's response to this be and which part of which government should have the authority to intervene? According to the growing body of evidence, the drones are unidentified of type or manufacturer as well as to operator, owner or logistics. They are apparently larger than the typical hobbyist models. They fly with lighting, although not necessarily in the form of legal running lights, which is turned off when they are?pursued. Since they takeoff and landing?locations? have not been pinpointed, various air?control radars or military imaging options have apparently been ineffective. They have been reliably reported over military installations, infrastructure nodes (such as reservoirs) as well as population?centers. The highest number of simultaneous sightings has been over?100 as best I can glean from media. Almost none of this is reliable enough that I would bet my wallet on it, but the official government statements support multiple sightings of unidentified craft in public?and restricted airspace and that? not one single craft has been captured?or categorized beyond each being a "drone." In fact, the officials seem surprisingly blase about the response given the historic military responses to foreign aircraft?incursions and balloon sightings. That feels fishy. As for talk of haphazard efforts to shoot down the drones, we should remember that there are good?reasons we do not fire our rifles into the sky. Not only do bullets eventually fall? to gravity, but disabled aircraft do as well! This does not bode well for the hapless?humans below, not to mention the wildfire risks and the possibility of totally harmless legally?operating craft taking fire from Joe Beer and his $5k .50 sniper rifle! They also may be U.S. craft being tested or some such, although doing so over densely populated areas would seem criminally?irresponsible. Or perhaps they are the airwing of a new breakout AI taking over the world! Next will finally come the zombies! As for what part of government, this project seems?tailored to an FAA investigation. ? |
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Re: Friday Five December 13
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Yes; I didn't realize that his position was that fragile or that the remaining opposition was that powerful.
2.? Which world leader do you think will be the next to be deposed? ?
Netanyahu, if you can call him a world leader.? Otherwise perhaps Macron.? I don't think that Iran, Russia, or China will depose their leader.
3.? Should drugs be decriminalized / and or sold over the counter - especailly opiate pain relievers? ?
Highly-addictive drugs should not be sold over?the counter.? Legal alcohol, nicotine, and cannabis?are bad enough to deal with.? We don't need to add to the problem.
4.? ?Were you surprised that Trump was named Person of the Year by Time Magazine? ?
Not at all.? Person of the year is not a good achievement award; it is awarded for the person who was most prominent during the previous year.? Adolf Hitler was Time's Man of the Year in 1938.
5. Unidentified drones have been flying over New Jersey and New York.? What should the governments response to this be and which part of which government should have the atuhority to intervene? ?
The FAA regulates drones, but I don't know how big these drones are, or whether they're just a bunch of the type of drones sold at Costco.? I've heard that it's a federal crime to shoot down a drone hovering outside your bathroom window, but I have a hard time believing that.
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Depending on the drone, it could be a military or a state police, county sheriff, or local police issue.
Apparently a New Jersey police helicopter had to land because a 6' diameter drone was hovering over it.? That sounds liek aggressoin worthy of response - even a 6' drone would be serverely damaged by a couple fo rounds off 000 buckshot at close range. ? ?
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