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Re: More bad news - from Japan

 

<<The VAX has certainly lowered my life expectancy. But I thot that was the idea. Obama said under Obamacare we'd all live a little less.>>

No, Obama didn't say that. And the various COVID vaccines (4 in the US, over 30 world-wide...some more effective than others) have all been extremely successful in stopping the death rate from COVID that actually lowered the average life expectancy. Even today with most having some "natural" immunity, deaths from COVID among the unvaxxed are far higher than among the vax, and still killing around 1000 people each week. Many people today are alive solely because they were vaccinated against COVID--with your having cancer, that very well could be the case for you.

<<My 3 problems from the VAX's [I had 3, needed them to travel] are long covid [brain fog, brain fatigue , boughts of anxiety], cancer, and heart afib. Cured my cancer [no help from my doc], almost there with the brain fog but having trouble getting what I need, and my heart doc who does open heart surgery can't prescribe even a small amount of Valium. What has medicine come to?? >>

It is impossible to catch long COVID from COVID, as COVID vaccines are not "live" vaccines. Also, there is no way that COVID could have cured your cancer, but if it had, why would that be a problem? And why would you want your heart doctor to prescribe you valium, how would valium help your heart? You are aware that doctor specialists routinely only treat and prescribe for their specialty? Your heart doctor *could* prescribe valium, if there were a reason it would help your heart, but as a heart doctor, he isn't going to prescribe you valium for other reasons.

Your symptoms of long COVID, would be from COVID. Unfortunately it is next to impossible to avoid contacting COVID, as it is year round, and few people take precautions to prevent spread. Covid vaccination helps, but it won't completely prevent catching COVID. Especially if someone has cancer, the vaccine is less likely to work, and the person will be even more susceptible to cancer.

<<I think my life expectancy would rise if I moved to Thailand. Or maybe India. Not Europe tho. They are about as bad as the US.>>

Life expectancy in India is 67 years (significantly less in than in the US), in Thailand is 78 years....slightly higher than then US 76 years, although drug overdoses bring down the US's life expectancy, I'm not sure that moving to Thailand will change your individual life expectancy. UK life expectancy is 80 years, France 82 years, Germany 81 years.....so if you think moving to a different country will improve your life expectancy, France or another European country would be the country to move to.

Rhonda


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TBil,

I've had 6 COVID-19 vaccinations (the first 2 plus 4 more boosters). I had no side effects from any of them.

On what do you base your assertion that vaccinations have lowered your life expectancy? What makes you think that under Obamacare we'd all live a little less?

Unless you actually had COVID-19 there's no way you could get long COVID from the vaccines. So I'm betting that you had at least one bout of COVID-19. What evidence do you have that COVID-19 vaccine cured your cancer (I'm betting on none). What did you or your doctor do wrong that you can't be prescribed valium? Why would you need it?

What makes you think you would live longer if you moved to Thailand or India?

Aloha,
Celeste

On 4/13/2024 4:03 PM, 't bill' wrote:

The VAX has certainly lowered my life expectancy.? But I thot that was the idea.? Obama said under Obamacare we'd all live a little less.

My 3 problems from the VAX's [I had 3, needed them to travel]? are long covid [brain fog, brain fatigue , boughts of anxiety], cancer, and heart afib.? Cured my cancer [no help from my doc], almost there with the brain fog but having trouble getting what I need, and my heart doc who does open heart surgery can't prescribe even a small amount of Valium.? What has medicine come to???

I think my life expectancy would rise if I moved to Thailand. Or maybe India.? Not Europe tho.? They are about as bad as the US. ??


On Saturday, April 13, 2024 at 09:10:28 PM EDT, Pat Trivers <pat_trivers@...> wrote:
Dr. John Campbell, with a recent study out of Japan - where, apparently, there is more transparency, less censorship. More bad news about C19 vaxx.

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<<Dr. John Campbell, with a recent study out of Japan - where, apparently, there is more transparency, less censorship. More bad news about C19 vaxx.>>


There is no single “C199 vaxx.” Which of the over 30 Covid vaccines is he talking about?

Rhonda

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The study doesn't show that mRNA vaccines were the cause of any of the health issues charted. Also, Dr. John Campbell is not a reputable source of information about vaccines. It's not his area of expertise.



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On 4/13/2024 3:10 PM, Pat Trivers wrote:

Dr. John Campbell, with a recent study out of Japan - where, apparently, there is more transparency, less censorship. More bad news about C19 vaxx.



More bad news - from Japan

 

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Dr. John Campbell, with a recent study out of Japan - where, apparently, there is more transparency, less censorship. More bad news about C19 vaxx.

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Re: Friday Five Aprill 12

 

1. Have you ever had a cat that terrorized your house?

Nope, can't say I have. All my cats have been sweet.

2. What one individuals single action prevented the most deaths in the 20th century?

Hmmmm, nobody acts in a vacuum, so its hard to come up with 1 individual's single action. I'll go with Vasily Arkhipov or Stanislav Petrov--2 different incidents, but both of them made the decision not to launch nuclear bombs, when they easily could have decided to with the information the had at hand.

3. Are you considering voting for a third party candidate for president this November?

Nope, for only the 2nd time ever I will be voting for a mainstream candidate, for 3 reasons. 1) Biden has done a tremendous job. Considering all he has to work through, I think he has been the best president in my lifetime. I want the US to continue moving up and above, so I will be voting for Biden. 2) The Republican candidate is a traitor and fascist of the worse degree. Trump promises nothing but destruction and retribution. The "project 2025" that supports Trump plans to destroy the separation of powers & the US Republic, and turn the US into a Christian Nationalist nation. Even if Biden weren't a great candidate, Trump and Project 2025 must be stopped for the future of the US. 3) I am becoming increasingly convinced that Trump is the biblical antichrist. Trump certainly meets all the biblical descriptions of the antichrist, and I'm not aware of anyone else in the past or present meeting those descriptions. If Trump is the biblical antichrist, then my vote won't stop him, but at least I will have a clear conscious that I did not vote for the antichrist. Certainly the evil and anti-biblical sentiments Trump stands for, is reason for Christians to consider voting against him, even if Trump isn't the antichrist.

4. What was the stupidest thing that happened to you this week?

On vacation and doing little, so nothing really stands out. I'm sure if I had been working and about, I would have had a story to tell.

5. Are you watching the Masters Tournament this week?

Nope. I'm not even sure what that is. Tennis?


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1.? Have you ever had a cat that terrorized your house?
Please explain how a cat could terrorize a house? This sounds like a personal problem.

2.? What one individuals single action prevented the most deaths in the 20th century?
Dr. Jonas E. Salk

3.? Are you considering voting for a third party candidate for president this November?
No

4.? What was the stupidest thing that happened to you this week?
I can't think of anything stupid that happened to me this week.

5.? Are you watching the Masters Tournament this week?
No

Aloha,
Celeste Rogers


Re: [m-scholars-and-scribes] Friday Five Aprill 12

 

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1.? Have you ever had a cat that terrorized your house?

I personally haven't but a friend of mine has one that is an absolute terror - most recently she knocked over a half gallon of vegetable oil.

My cats have always been well behaved - maybe because I don't yell at them - and allow them to go outside as they want - so they can be what they are.

2.? What one individuals single action prevented the most deaths in the 20th century?

Vasilly Alexsandrovich Archipov - recognized that a nuclear missile strike showing on his radar screen was an electronic fragment

3.? Are you considering voting for a third party candidate for president this November?

Very much so - this year electjon could easily be a rerun of 1912.

4.? What was the stupidest thing that happened to you this week?

Spending $350 on a new recliner that doesn't recline - and whose footrest doesn't stay up.

5.? Are you watching the Masters Tournament this week?

Trying to

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Re: Friday Five Aprill 12

 

1.? Have you ever had a cat that terrorized your house?

No. I am bigger than all the cats I have owned. Occasionally they have?been a bit privileged, but not really domineering.

2.? What one individual's single action prevented the most deaths in the 20th century?

Who is more responsible for deescalating the Cuban Missile Crisis? From there, I branch into people like Ghandi and various Nobel Prize winners, artificial heart?researchers and global peacemakers. I do not have names at my fingertips, but I am also not sure how long it would take to design and quantify the search. I did a quickie, however and came up with Norman Borlaug, whom I did not know about previously



3.? Are you considering voting for a third party candidate for president this November?

Nobody has caught my eye.

4.? What was the stupidest thing that happened to you this week?

I crossed?into Arizona, which state does?not follow?the whole Daylight Savings program, and assumed my clocks all compensated. The computer did not and I spent the day an hour behind before I caught the error.

5.? Are you watching the Masters Tournament this week?


No. I rarely watch sports. Just does not hold my interest.


Friday Five Aprill 12

 

1.? Have you ever had a cat that terrorized your house?

2.? What one individuals single action prevented the most deaths in the 20th century?

3.? Are you considering voting for a third party candidate for president this November?

4.? What was the stupidest thing that happened to you this week?

5.? Are you watching the Masters Tournament this week?


Re: Friday Five answer

 

I think they just had no idea except for visits to Japan.

There is some thought that the fallout would not necessarily ruin the entire biosphere, depending upon the number and location of detonations. Battlefield airbursts would be closer to earthquake scenarios than radiation horror movies. Of course, we do not build school desks like we used to, either...,


On Sat, Apr 6, 2024 at 12:39?PM mrvnchpmn <chapman@...> wrote:
The answer I was thinking of when I wrote the first question this week was the old direction from adults about what to do in case of a nuclear attack - get under our desk at school.

I think they were confusing nuclear attacks with earthquakes.

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Friday Five answer

 

The answer I was thinking of when I wrote the first question this week was the old direction from adults about what to do in case of a nuclear attack - get under our desk at school.

I think they were confusing nuclear attacks with earthquakes.

Marvin
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Re: Friday Five April 5

 

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1.? What was the silliest thing an adult told you to do as a child?
Ignore the bullies.

2.? Should preoperatve transexuals be allowed to compete in women's sporting events?
Yes. It isn't the surgery that eliminates the testosterone. It's the hormone therapy.

3.? ?Should politicians be required to say out loud without a crib sheet the cost of a loaf of bread at the average supermarket?
How would they even know that? This is a strange question.

4.? Should mailings about controversial subjects be subject to control under federal mailing laws?
No. Who gets to decide what's "controversial?"

5.? Is the war in the Middle East about to expand?
Probably not.

Aloha,
Celeste Rogers


Re: Friday Five April 5

 

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1.? What was the silliest thing an adult told you to do as a child?

My mom used to tell me not to undress in front of the window because someone might look in to watch me. We lived in a rural area surrounded by cornfields, although our house was in the middle of cleared acre, with only 1 neighbor within half a mile. And that neighbor was an elderly woman.? The chances of someone driving out to a house in the middle of nowhere, creeping up over half and acre with no shrubbery or trees to hide behind, for the slim chance of catch someone undressing in front of a window for 2 minutes, was pretty much non-existent. My mother used to worry about all kinds of things, and pass those worries on to me, that I now realize as an adult were extremely unlikely to be a concern.

2.? Should preoperatve transexuals be allowed to compete in women's sporting events?

Generally no, although I’m OK with each sports sporting body deciding the rules for their individual sport.

I think only in cases if any physical advantage conferred by being a biological male would not be a concern, should preop transwomen be allowed to play on women’s teams. Like chess (but I guess that isn’t technically a sporting event.) Or darts, shooting sports, car racing, maybe volleyball teams, if each team had equal numbers of biological women and transwomen.

Now if we are talking transmen wanting to play in women’s sports….that is trickier. Taking testosterone would definitely give them an advantage, and that would be against the rules in most sports, but a transman is not going to have the biological advantages that a biological male would have.

3.? ?Should politicians be required to say out loud without a crib sheet the cost of a loaf of bread at the average supermarket?

Haha, no. First, the cost of bread is going to vary widely by area of the country. It will vary widely even by city vs rural grocery stores located just a few miles away.

Also, I have no idea what the average cost of a loaf of bread costs, many people don’t because 1) their spouse (and/or teenage children in my case) do a majority of the grocery shopping ?or 2) bread is considered more of a necessity than a luxury item, so if people are going to buy bread regardless of the cost, they may not bother to even look at the cost. This is true for me on the rare occasions I’m in the grocery buying bread….I will check the cost for soda, and look for sales in the frozen dinner departments, but milk and bread I’m going to buy regardless of cost, so I don’t check what they cost.

I think a politician should be aware of inflation, real wages, and the general percentage that the average or median person in their district is paying for necessities such as groceries, housing, healthcare. I see nationwide, the median income is $37,500 and the average person is spending 11% of that on groceries…although its not clear what size of households they are talking about. I’d expect a politician to be able to get more precise figures for the area of their state that they are serving.

4.? Should mailings about controversial subjects be subject to control under federal mailing laws?

There are already regulations concerning pornography and other sexually explicit mailings. Although I suppose most mailing of that type now deal over the internet, rather than through postal mail.

I think it would be difficult to define “controversial” for the purpose of other mailings. Religion can be very controversial…should all religious mailings have an age warning on them? That seems ludicrous, since minors are not prohibited from participating in the vast majority of religious services and practices. I’m actually not aware of any law prohibiting minors from participating in any religious ceremony, certainly they are allowed to drink alcohol during communion and smoke peyote during Native American ceremonies—even though they would not be allowed to do either outside of a religious context. ?

And as with pornography, I think any “controversial” subject would be far more accessible over the internet, than through postal mail.

So unless there something I’m missing, I would be against federal mailing laws being put in place over controversial subjects.

5.? Is the war in the Middle East about to expand?

I hope not. I honestly think its equally likely to go either way at this point.


Rhonda
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Re: [m-scholars-and-scribes] Re: Friday Five April 5

 


1.? What was the silliest thing an adult told you to do as a child?

Probably to not go swimming until an hour after eating.

2.? Should preoperatve transexuals be allowed to compete in women's sporting events?

Only if their hands are tied behind their backs and the women are allowed to kick them in the nether regions.

3.? ?Should politicians be required to say out loud without a crib sheet the cost of a loaf of bread at the average supermarket?

I think yes - but the question should be randomized.? Even better yet would be if teleprompters were disallowed at all public speaking events.

4.? Should mailings about controversial subjects be subject to control under federal mailing laws?

Not only on the basis of their being controlversial.

5.? Is the war in the Middle East about to expand?

I think so - the latest was saber rattlling by the Ayatollahs in Tehran.
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Re: Friday Five April 5

 

1.? What was the silliest thing an adult told you to do as a child?

I do not remember my childhood all that well, but I do seem to remember people telling me to consider what I want to do with my life. Of course, I had no idea at all, not even yet being able?to think?about the future?in such a context.

2.? Should preoperatve transexuals be allowed to compete in women's sporting events?

Did you mean to say "transexual sporting events?" I personally do not care, but I am not much interested in sporting events, either. I feel like the best way to manage this whole issue is to simply delete the gender?divisions in sporting events and allow free-for-all competition. Works in Aikido. although Aikido is not really a competition?sport. Anyway, the whole thing seems like something presented to the mob to keep it entertained away from more portentous issues. Makework.?

3.? ?Should politicians be required to say out loud without a crib sheet the cost of a loaf of bread at the average supermarket?

See above. Keep people busy wrestling over trivia. Again, I wonder at a culture that would invest money and other energy into regulating such a thing when the world is figuratively on fire. Let's first consider changing weather patterns, global saber rattling, famine, disease and economic disparity. When we have approached within eyesight of Utopia, then I will sit in the amphitheatre?with my concession?popcorn and watch political speeches and reality TV.

4.? Should mailings about controversial subjects be subject to control under federal mailing laws?

See above and?above that. How many billions could be diverted?away from the growing Avalanche of Doom to regulate this? No...it should be a voluntary common sense choice between healthy adults, else settled with voluntary private wars between those with nothing better to do.

5.? Is the war in the Middle East about to expand?

Unfortunately, I am starting to believe it is. That polarity between the two major factions is seen extending into many other nations, based upon media reports. Israel is showing no compunction about fighting on multiple fronts, the Terrorist Troops are swearing support for each other (although they seem unwilling to commit to open warfare as Israel is beyond hitting a few?ships) and sizeable players from the U.S. to Russia to Brazil see to all have strong?and polarized opinions. If this war does not expand, I will be gratefully?amazed.


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1.? What was the silliest thing an adult told you to do as a child?

2.? Should preoperatve transexuals be allowed to compete in women's sporting events?

3.? ?Should politicians be required to say out loud without a crib sheet the cost of a loaf of bread at the average supermarket?

4.? Should mailings about controversial subjects be subject to control under federal mailing laws?

5.? Is the war in the Middle East about to expand?
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Re: Friday Five March 29

 

I want to emphasize?I was just tossing out brainstorming ideas with those questions and not actually soliciting responses!

That being said, Rhonda, your answers are good windows?into your values, which is broadly the area I was shooting for. Thank you! I would have differing perspectives?on a couple of the points, but I was still able to grasp yours?easily.

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On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 12:02?AM FreedomRocks <HomeOfLove69@...> wrote:

<<What do you contribute toward improving the world or benefiting humanity?>>

I work hard in my job and seek to give quality care and advice to people. I regularly financially contribute to help others in need, both at the local and national level. I financially contribute to my local animal shelter & have adopted 4 pets from them who I spoil completely. I volunteer in my local Mensa, which at least benefits the active members of the local group. I take the time to counter disinformation/misinformation when I see/hear it, but sadly many people want to believe what they want to believe, regardless of the facts.

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<<What in your opinion is the human?mind and?how does?it impact your?life???>>

Well, I guess the human mind is the fusion between the physical brain and the spiritual soul. It’s certainly good to have one, I can appreciate life at a deeper level, then I would if I didn’t have a human mind. Certainly I enjoy, as do most people in the US, and even most people worldwide to a greater or lesser extent, a higher standard of living than at any other time in history—and that is because of the great inventions and discoveries that have come from human minds. On the flip side, human minds can also be very dark and depraved as they plot against others, and this is something I must always keep in mind as I plan activities or schedule my day.

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<<What in your opinion should we change about consumer?culture and why?>>

The problem with consumer culture is it entices people to spend money on junk items that are quickly discarded. That is a waste of resources and fills up our landfills. I don’t see consumer culture changing, but ideally only high quality, useful items would be promoted for people to buy.

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<<What would you like to be posthumously remembered for and why?>>

I hope my children remember me for being a good mom. If I die before my husband, then I hope he remembers me for being a good spouse. Maybe my pets will remember me for taking good care of them. I’m not too concerned if anyone else remembers me, but if they do, hopefully its because I had a positive impact on their life, and not a negative impact.

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<<Is a hypothetical?average human life more important than a hypothetical average dog's life? Why do you think (or not think) so?>>

Yes, I believe a hypothetical average human life is more important than the hypothetical average dog’s life. This is from my religious believe that humans are created in the image of God, and are the pinnacle (at least on earth), of God’s creative process. From a secular viewpoint, I think it can be argued that humans are generally the top of “survival of the fittest’, due to our ability to think, conceive, plan, and manipulate our environment.

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<<What do you contribute toward improving the world or benefiting humanity?>>

I work hard in my job and seek to give quality care and advice to people. I regularly financially contribute to help others in need, both at the local and national level. I financially contribute to my local animal shelter & have adopted 4 pets from them who I spoil completely. I volunteer in my local Mensa, which at least benefits the active members of the local group. I take the time to counter disinformation/misinformation when I see/hear it, but sadly many people want to believe what they want to believe, regardless of the facts.

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<<What in your opinion is the human?mind and?how does?it impact your?life???>>

Well, I guess the human mind is the fusion between the physical brain and the spiritual soul. It’s certainly good to have one, I can appreciate life at a deeper level, then I would if I didn’t have a human mind. Certainly I enjoy, as do most people in the US, and even most people worldwide to a greater or lesser extent, a higher standard of living than at any other time in history—and that is because of the great inventions and discoveries that have come from human minds. On the flip side, human minds can also be very dark and depraved as they plot against others, and this is something I must always keep in mind as I plan activities or schedule my day.

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<<What in your opinion should we change about consumer?culture and why?>>

The problem with consumer culture is it entices people to spend money on junk items that are quickly discarded. That is a waste of resources and fills up our landfills. I don’t see consumer culture changing, but ideally only high quality, useful items would be promoted for people to buy.

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<<What would you like to be posthumously remembered for and why?>>

I hope my children remember me for being a good mom. If I die before my husband, then I hope he remembers me for being a good spouse. Maybe my pets will remember me for taking good care of them. I’m not too concerned if anyone else remembers me, but if they do, hopefully its because I had a positive impact on their life, and not a negative impact.

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<<Is a hypothetical?average human life more important than a hypothetical average dog's life? Why do you think (or not think) so?>>

Yes, I believe a hypothetical average human life is more important than the hypothetical average dog’s life. This is from my religious believe that humans are created in the image of God, and are the pinnacle (at least on earth), of God’s creative process. From a secular viewpoint, I think it can be argued that humans are generally the top of “survival of the fittest’, due to our ability to think, conceive, plan, and manipulate our environment.

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Re: Friday Five March 29

 

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Excellent. ?Pure progress.


On Mar 30, 2024, at 10:12, Darrell King <DarrellGKing@...> wrote:

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If we can get this trend to spread, we could give them citizenships and employ?them as self-arresting criminals, those killing many birds?with a single social reform stone.

On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 8:34?PM David Smith via <dvdcsmth=[email protected]> wrote:

// ? ??Illegal immigrants should be allowed to turn themselves in to the Border Patrol? ? ?//

Ingenious.? They could arrest themselves.


On Mar 29, 2024, at 17:50, Darrell King <DarrellGKing@...> wrote:

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1.? Should illegal immigrants be allowed to occupy vacant homes without the permission of the owner?

I am sometimes staring at these questions for a really long moment, perhaps seeking the joke or the trick hidden in them!

In this case, my knee-jerk response was "Only when I can, too!"

No. The term illegal immigrant does not mean an immigrant who is exempt from legal restrictions. It refers?to a trespasser?who probably should not be encouraged to polish his skills by taking new steps in his career. Illegal immigrants should be allowed to turn themselves in to the Border Patrol, thus achieving a form of shelter from the experts.

2,? Should individual states be allowed to arrest illegal immigrants for trespassing?

I cannot see why not. Despite immigration being?a federal purview, local law enforcement are often supporting?federal agencies. I would even go so far as to say that any law enforcement agent has a duty to make such an arrest.

3.? Should the US laws be reciprocal toward visitors or immigrants to the degree that their home counties are to US visitors or immigrants?

I could see some validity to this. Reciprocity exists?between some states, as with various permits and licenses. I would expect such an arrangement to be subject to oversight, of course, and not automated.?

4.? The Baltimore bridge collapse - what happened?

Looks like the ship had a mechanical issue and pulled off the road in a bad spot! I understand they?did try to call for help from a tug and they did notify authorities. I am withholding?any more indignant comments until the official investigation results arrive.

5.? ?Should the owner of the ship or the company that chartered it be held liable for the replacement cost?

See above. Depends?upon the circumstances. Having?said that, I would also have to admit I was assuming that such would be the case anyway.