Re: What happened to climate change?
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It was a lot more widespread than the recent one.
And the biggest problem is that we don't have consistent sites to measure - geography changes and so does observed temberature
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Thx, I didn't know the term. Here's a somewhat short study about it in english:
But it states that the thermal difference with modern times was less than 2?C... and it seems this last century global warming is bigger than that.
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El lunes, 19 de febrero de 2024, 16:37:05 ART, mrvnchpmn <chapman@...> escribió:
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During the Medieval Warm Period wine grapes were grown in England.? During the 1816 cold year the Thames froze.? So climate swings are not new.
Marvin
From 900 AD to 1800 AD, there was a Medieval Warm Period followed by the Little Ice Age.? Prior to recorded history, there were several ice ages.? I believe the earth is going through a warm spell, but not that it's all caused by an increase of a couple hundred parts per million too much carbon dioxide, and that is excess CO2 is in turn caused by wealthy people's motorcars and jet airplanes.
Ed
On Monday, February 19, 2024, Anabel Perez via <perezbem= [email protected]> wrote:
Ahh the britannica, it was one of the "important" purchases when I was young.
?
As to weather change, I follow two rules: there are some macro patterns or whatever that have changed in the last 50 years (or less), like receding icemarkers in Antartica, and the local small clearly human driven changes, like deforestation or overusage of soiles that generate barren places in just a couple of years. Both are easily seen by any individual that just takes a look and verified by any number of scientific and economical studies.
?
What seems to be the new discussion is what causes the first macro changes: is it human driven? or is a natural phase? Can we do anything about it?
?
i guess it's hard to accept human influence on a wordly scale.
?
When the ozone "hole" appeared in Antartica and later closed ?did we do any of that?
?
Are we really causing the general temperatures to rise (at least in Buenos Aires, it has been over the last 100 years or so)?
?
I believe we are, but I guess there's still room for faith and cherrypicking the science that will support one explanation or the other.
?
?
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat
Despachante de Aduana
Lic. Comercio Internacional?
Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos
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El lunes, 19 de febrero de 2024, 14:00:53 ART, a1thighmaster < thighmaster@...> escribió: ?
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Ed,
What exactly makes you think they were wrong? Extremes are the hallmark of climate change.
Aloha,
Celeste
?
On 2/19/2024 2:15 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
?
The "worst drought in recorded history" ?disappeared-despite the experts (soothsayers) learned predictions.
?
Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as usual, with multi-million dollar homes built on dirt cliffs sliding into the ocean again.
?
How could a consensus of climate experts possibly be wrong?!
?
?
?
?
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Re: What happened to climate change?
Thx, I didn't know the term. Here's a somewhat short study about it in english:
But it states that the thermal difference with modern times was less than 2?C... and it seems this last century global warming is bigger than that.
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat
Despachante de Aduana Lic. Comercio Internacional?
Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos
? Foros actualizados !??y? ?
- Mirá las novedades: Especial: Controles para IMPO con Valor Criterio
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El lunes, 19 de febrero de 2024, 16:37:05 ART, mrvnchpmn <chapman@...> escribió:
?
During the Medieval Warm Period wine grapes were grown in England.? During the 1816 cold year the Thames froze.? So climate swings are not new.
Marvin
From 900 AD to 1800 AD, there was a Medieval Warm Period followed by the Little Ice Age.? Prior to recorded history, there were several ice ages.? I believe the earth is going through a warm spell, but not that it's all caused by an increase of a couple hundred parts per million too much carbon dioxide, and that is excess CO2 is in turn caused by wealthy people's motorcars and jet airplanes.
Ed
On Monday, February 19, 2024, Anabel Perez via <perezbem= [email protected]> wrote:
Ahh the britannica, it was one of the "important" purchases when I was young.
?
As to weather change, I follow two rules: there are some macro patterns or whatever that have changed in the last 50 years (or less), like receding icemarkers in Antartica, and the local small clearly human driven changes, like deforestation or overusage of soiles that generate barren places in just a couple of years. Both are easily seen by any individual that just takes a look and verified by any number of scientific and economical studies.
?
What seems to be the new discussion is what causes the first macro changes: is it human driven? or is a natural phase? Can we do anything about it?
?
i guess it's hard to accept human influence on a wordly scale.
?
When the ozone "hole" appeared in Antartica and later closed ?did we do any of that?
?
Are we really causing the general temperatures to rise (at least in Buenos Aires, it has been over the last 100 years or so)?
?
I believe we are, but I guess there's still room for faith and cherrypicking the science that will support one explanation or the other.
?
?
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat
Despachante de Aduana
Lic. Comercio Internacional?
Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos
? Foros actualizados !??y?
?
- Mirá las novedades:
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El lunes, 19 de febrero de 2024, 14:00:53 ART, a1thighmaster < thighmaster@...> escribió: ?
?
Ed,
What exactly makes you think they were wrong? Extremes are the hallmark of climate change.
Aloha,
Celeste
?
On 2/19/2024 2:15 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
?
The "worst drought in recorded history" ?disappeared-despite the experts (soothsayers) learned predictions.
?
Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as usual, with multi-million dollar homes built on dirt cliffs sliding into the ocean again.
?
How could a consensus of climate experts possibly be wrong?!
?
?
?
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Re: What happened to climate change?
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I live on a Pelstocene Marine Terrace left over from a period about 12,000 years ago when sea level was about a hundred feet higher.? And fossils on the sea floor off my coast indicate that sometime not long before that sea levels were about fifty feet lower.
Change hapnens - deal with it
Marvin
From 900 AD to 1800 AD, there was a Medieval Warm Period followed by the Little Ice Age.? Prior to recorded history, there were several ice ages.? I believe the earth is going through a warm spell, but not that it's all caused by an increase of a couple hundred parts per million too much carbon dioxide, and that is excess CO2 is in turn caused by wealthy people's motorcars and jet airplanes.
Ed
On Monday, February 19, 2024, Anabel Perez via <perezbem= [email protected]> wrote:
Ahh the britannica, it was one of the "important" purchases when I was young.
?
As to weather change, I follow two rules: there are some macro patterns or whatever that have changed in the last 50 years (or less), like receding icemarkers in Antartica, and the local small clearly human driven changes, like deforestation or overusage of soiles that generate barren places in just a couple of years. Both are easily seen by any individual that just takes a look and verified by any number of scientific and economical studies.
?
What seems to be the new discussion is what causes the first macro changes: is it human driven? or is a natural phase? Can we do anything about it?
?
i guess it's hard to accept human influence on a wordly scale.
?
When the ozone "hole" appeared in Antartica and later closed ?did we do any of that?
?
Are we really causing the general temperatures to rise (at least in Buenos Aires, it has been over the last 100 years or so)?
?
I believe we are, but I guess there's still room for faith and cherrypicking the science that will support one explanation or the other.
?
?
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat
Despachante de Aduana
Lic. Comercio Internacional?
Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos
? Foros actualizados !??y?
?
- Mirá las novedades:
Especial: Controles para IMPO con Valor Criterio
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El lunes, 19 de febrero de 2024, 14:00:53 ART, a1thighmaster < thighmaster@...> escribió: ?
?
Ed,
What exactly makes you think they were wrong? Extremes are the hallmark of climate change.
Aloha,
Celeste
?
On 2/19/2024 2:15 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
?
The "worst drought in recorded history" ?disappeared-despite the experts (soothsayers) learned predictions.
?
Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as usual, with multi-million dollar homes built on dirt cliffs sliding into the ocean again.
?
How could a consensus of climate experts possibly be wrong?!
?
?
?
|
Re: What happened to climate change?
?
During the Medieval Warm Period wine grapes were grown in England.? During the 1816 cold year the Thames froze.? So climate swings are not new.
Marvin
From 900 AD to 1800 AD, there was a Medieval Warm Period followed by the Little Ice Age.? Prior to recorded history, there were several ice ages.? I believe the earth is going through a warm spell, but not that it's all caused by an increase of a couple hundred parts per million too much carbon dioxide, and that is excess CO2 is in turn caused by wealthy people's motorcars and jet airplanes.
Ed
On Monday, February 19, 2024, Anabel Perez via <perezbem= [email protected]> wrote:
Ahh the britannica, it was one of the "important" purchases when I was young.
?
As to weather change, I follow two rules: there are some macro patterns or whatever that have changed in the last 50 years (or less), like receding icemarkers in Antartica, and the local small clearly human driven changes, like deforestation or overusage of soiles that generate barren places in just a couple of years. Both are easily seen by any individual that just takes a look and verified by any number of scientific and economical studies.
?
What seems to be the new discussion is what causes the first macro changes: is it human driven? or is a natural phase? Can we do anything about it?
?
i guess it's hard to accept human influence on a wordly scale.
?
When the ozone "hole" appeared in Antartica and later closed ?did we do any of that?
?
Are we really causing the general temperatures to rise (at least in Buenos Aires, it has been over the last 100 years or so)?
?
I believe we are, but I guess there's still room for faith and cherrypicking the science that will support one explanation or the other.
?
?
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat
Despachante de Aduana
Lic. Comercio Internacional?
Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos
? Foros actualizados !??y?
?
- Mirá las novedades:
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El lunes, 19 de febrero de 2024, 14:00:53 ART, a1thighmaster < thighmaster@...> escribió: ?
?
Ed,
What exactly makes you think they were wrong? Extremes are the hallmark of climate change.
Aloha,
Celeste
?
On 2/19/2024 2:15 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
?
The "worst drought in recorded history" ?disappeared-despite the experts (soothsayers) learned predictions.
?
Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as usual, with multi-million dollar homes built on dirt cliffs sliding into the ocean again.
?
How could a consensus of climate experts possibly be wrong?!
?
?
?
|
Re: What happened to climate change?
From 900 AD to 1800 AD, there was a Medieval Warm Period followed by the Little Ice Age.? Prior to recorded history, there were several ice ages.? I believe the earth is going through a warm spell, but not that it's all caused by an increase of a couple hundred parts per million too much carbon dioxide, and that is excess CO2 is in turn caused by wealthy people's motorcars and jet airplanes. Ed
On Monday, February 19, 2024, Anabel Perez via <perezbem= [email protected]> wrote: Ahh the britannica, it was one of the "important" purchases when I was young.
As to weather change, I follow two rules: there are some macro patterns or whatever that have changed in the last 50 years (or less), like receding icemarkers in Antartica, and the local small clearly human driven changes, like deforestation or overusage of soiles that generate barren places in just a couple of years. Both are easily seen by any individual that just takes a look and verified by any number of scientific and economical studies.
What seems to be the new discussion is what causes the first macro changes: is it human driven? or is a natural phase? Can we do anything about it?
i guess it's hard to accept human influence on a wordly scale.
When the ozone "hole" appeared in Antartica and later closed ?did we do any of that?
Are we really causing the general temperatures to rise (at least in Buenos Aires, it has been over the last 100 years or so)?
I believe we are, but I guess there's still room for faith and cherrypicking the science that will support one explanation or the other.
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat
Despachante de Aduana Lic. Comercio Internacional?
Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos
? Foros actualizados !??y? ?
- Mirá las novedades: Especial: Controles para IMPO con Valor Criterio
Detalles de Impos para Proyecciones 2022 y Com.A7532 y actualizaciones!
?C.O.D.,?TAD,?DJCP,?D J O N P?!
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El lunes, 19 de febrero de 2024, 14:00:53 ART, a1thighmaster < thighmaster@...> escribió:
Ed,
What exactly makes you think they were wrong? Extremes are the
hallmark of climate change.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 2/19/2024 2:15 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
The "worst drought in recorded history" ?disappeared-despite the
experts (soothsayers) learned predictions.
Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as usual, with
multi-million dollar homes built on dirt cliffs sliding into the
ocean again.
How could a consensus of climate experts possibly be
wrong?!
|
Re: What happened to climate change?
Ahh the britannica, it was one of the "important" purchases when I was young.
As to weather change, I follow two rules: there are some macro patterns or whatever that have changed in the last 50 years (or less), like receding icemarkers in Antartica, and the local small clearly human driven changes, like deforestation or overusage of soiles that generate barren places in just a couple of years. Both are easily seen by any individual that just takes a look and verified by any number of scientific and economical studies.
What seems to be the new discussion is what causes the first macro changes: is it human driven? or is a natural phase? Can we do anything about it?
i guess it's hard to accept human influence on a wordly scale.
When the ozone "hole" appeared in Antartica and later closed ?did we do any of that?
Are we really causing the general temperatures to rise (at least in Buenos Aires, it has been over the last 100 years or so)?
I believe we are, but I guess there's still room for faith and cherrypicking the science that will support one explanation or the other.
Slds
Anabel Pérez Bemporat
Despachante de Aduana Lic. Comercio Internacional?
Capacitadora en Aduanas y Comercio Exterior Argentinos
? Foros actualizados !??y? ?
- Mirá las novedades: Especial: Controles para IMPO con Valor Criterio
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El lunes, 19 de febrero de 2024, 14:00:53 ART, a1thighmaster <thighmaster@...> escribió:
Ed,
What exactly makes you think they were wrong? Extremes are the
hallmark of climate change.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 2/19/2024 2:15 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
The "worst drought in recorded history" ?disappeared-despite the
experts (soothsayers) learned predictions.
Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as usual, with
multi-million dollar homes built on dirt cliffs sliding into the
ocean again.
How could a consensus of climate experts possibly be
wrong?!
|
Re: What happened to climate change?
Ed,
What exactly makes you think they were wrong? Extremes are the
hallmark of climate change.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 2/19/2024 2:15 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
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The "worst drought in recorded history" ?disappeared-despite the
experts (soothsayers) learned predictions.
Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as usual, with
multi-million dollar homes built on dirt cliffs sliding into the
ocean again.
How could a consensus of climate experts possibly be
wrong?!
|
Re: What happened to climate change?
I understand that we continue to set records across multiple metrics when compared to recorded history. Without any intent to venture into the politics?associated with this topic, about which I care nothing, my impression is that a solid case has been made for enduring changes to global weather patterns. Metrics include sea level changes, ice quantity reductions, exposed permafrost?expanses, land temperature?ranges, ocean surface temperatures, ocean current changes and expansive?biosphere changes such as Amazon deforestation. For me, all these point to enduring meteorological changes. Climate change.
Note that by "politics" I mean what industries are getting more money, what national interests are benefiting?from restricting oil industries or promoting wind farms, what political population segments are backing which related conceptual perspectives, who is starving and who is thriving. Those are all social?considerations. When I use the word "climate", I am referring?to meteorological and geological phenomena. The word (or phrase climate change) has apparently been co-opted?by political?activism lately. Totally valid subject more properly labeled as climate change-related social impacts!?A pet peeve.
Climate, conditions of the??at a particular location over a long period of time; it is the long-term summation of the atmospheric elements (and their variations) that, over short time periods,??. These elements are?,?,?,??(type, frequency, and amount),?, and??(speed and direction)...
Thanks for the link, Ed. Was interesting. Obviously we cannot yet determine whether this is a lasting phenomenon, especially?given the typical time periods for human-significant climate changes, but the evidence leaves me wary. On a human interest level, I am less concerned with an Apocalyptic?climate-related?event than with the confluence of moderate multiple social stressors,?including lasting weather patterns. From the perspective of assessing any one of these stressors, however, having access to concise studies and reports is always a boon!
On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 6:15?AM Ed Lomas < relomas2@...> wrote: The "worst drought in recorded history" ?disappeared-despite the experts (soothsayers) learned predictions.
Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as usual, with multi-million dollar homes built on dirt cliffs sliding into the ocean again. How could a consensus of climate experts possibly be wrong?!
|
What happened to climate change?
The "worst drought in recorded history" ?disappeared-despite the experts (soothsayers) learned predictions.
Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as usual, with multi-million dollar homes built on dirt cliffs sliding into the ocean again. How could a consensus of climate experts possibly be wrong?!
|
Re: Reagan and Alzheimer's
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On Feb 18, 2024, at 05:31, FreedomRocks <HomeOfLove69@...> wrote:
? <<People didn't like Reagan used to claim it ad a matter of fact, but I've never seem any proof.? My recollections of Reagan was that he seemed on the ball and interacted with the press and off script a hell of a lot more than Biden is doing now.? I don't recall Reagan sluffing his words or shuffling in his walk or being consigned to the short stairs on Air Force One, while Biden is rapidly declining.? How long will it be before Biden needs a walker? ?>>
Thanks for the link, I stand corrected. I was 10 years old when Reagan was elected, and had zero interest (as did my parents) in politics during my high school years, so I really don’t remember anything about his presidency. Only that my soap operas were interrupted for like 2 weeks because of the Iran-Contra hearings. When I did get into following politics in college and afterwards, I had just heard/read many times that he had Alzheimer’s during his years in office, and made the mistake of accepting that as fact without actually checking into the veracity of it. When David challenged me to list a source, or 3, I was surprised that there weren’t any easy to find sources, but figured that was due to Google’s search function being so dysfunctional. I’m not a big fan of Snopes, but they do seem to have all the facts listed, and there is no actual evidence, and indeed seems unlikely, that he was suffering from Alzheimer’s while in office. ? Rhonda
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Re: Reagan and Alzheimer's
<<People didn't like Reagan used to claim it ad a matter of fact, but I've never seem any proof.? My recollections of Reagan was that he seemed on the ball and interacted with the press and off script a hell of a lot more than Biden is doing now.? I don't recall Reagan sluffing his words or shuffling in his walk or being consigned to the short stairs on Air Force One, while Biden is rapidly declining.? How long will it be before Biden needs a walker? ?>>
Thanks for the link, I stand corrected. I was 10 years old when Reagan was elected, and had zero interest (as did my parents) in politics during my high school years, so I really don’t remember anything about his presidency. Only that my soap operas were interrupted for like 2 weeks because of the Iran-Contra hearings. When I did get into following politics in college and afterwards, I had just heard/read many times that he had Alzheimer’s during his years in office, and made the mistake of accepting that as fact without actually checking into the veracity of it. When David challenged me to list a source, or 3, I was surprised that there weren’t any easy to find sources, but figured that was due to Google’s search function being so dysfunctional. I’m not a big fan of Snopes, but they do seem to have all the facts listed, and there is no actual evidence, and indeed seems unlikely, that he was suffering from Alzheimer’s while in office. ? Rhonda
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Re: Kamala flunks American History
Ed,
Or maybe you've flunked American history.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 2/17/2024 10:13 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
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Kamala
Harris on Trump: ‘No previous US president has bowed down to a
Russian dictator before’
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Kamala flunks American History
Kamala Harris on Trump: ‘No previous US president has bowed down to a Russian dictator before’
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Re: [Owner] Re: [PhilosophicalM] Firday F9ve February 16
There was also something in there about the results being edited by removing one person's group of responses when they were more than two standard deviation from the mean.? Second, look at the scatter grams-?very poor correlation, even after editing the outliers. That paper is a great example of crap statistics. Ed
On Saturday, February 17, 2024, David Smith via <dvdcsmth= [email protected]> wrote:
Thanks!
// ? ? ?Key word counts previously associated with cognitive decline in Alzheimer’s disease were extracted and regression analyses were conducted. President Reagan showed a significant reduction in the number of unique words over time and a significant increase in conversational fillers and non-specific nouns over time.?? ? ?//
Sounds vague.? Not a clear diagnosis, yes?? Suggestive doesn't say much to me, though I confess to lacking much trust in diagnoses from psych experts on the whole.
? <<// ? ? ?We now know that Reagan had serious Alzheimer's during his the latter years of his presidency.?? ? ?// Could be, but I don't know it.? I'd appreciate a respectable reference or three.>>
OK, I don’t have 3 references, but here is 1:
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Re: Reagan and Alzheimer's
No, FDR was in a wheelchair, and the favorable press kept that secret, but being crippled by polio is not as serious as mobility problems due to advanced aging.? FDR was re-elected even when it was a poorly-kept secret that he was dying, which he did, five months after the election and three months into his 4th term, at the age of 63. Ed
On Saturday, February 17, 2024, Darrell King < DarrellGKing@...> wrote: Use of a walker would not legally disqualify Biden from holding office,?I believe, but it might influence his reelection vote.
D
On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 7:26?AM Ed Lomas < relomas2@...> wrote: My phone is acting up this morning, dropping messages and losing connections.? I don't know whether it's Verizon or Google.
Someone posted as a matter of fact that Reagan had Alzheimer's during his presidency.? Dave asked for a reference. ?
People didn't like Reagan used to claim it ad a matter of fact, but I've never seem any proof.? My recollections of Reagan was that he seemed on the ball and interacted with the press and off script a hell of a lot more than Biden is doing now.? I don't recall Reagan sluffing his words or shuffling in his walk or being consigned to the short stairs on Air Force One, while Biden is rapidly declining.? How long will it be before Biden needs a walker? Ed
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Re: Reagan and Alzheimer's
Use of a walker would not legally disqualify Biden from holding office,?I believe, but it might influence his reelection vote.
D
On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 7:26?AM Ed Lomas < relomas2@...> wrote: My phone is acting up this morning, dropping messages and losing connections.? I don't know whether it's Verizon or Google.
Someone posted as a matter of fact that Reagan had Alzheimer's during his presidency.? Dave asked for a reference. ?
People didn't like Reagan used to claim it ad a matter of fact, but I've never seem any proof.? My recollections of Reagan was that he seemed on the ball and interacted with the press and off script a hell of a lot more than Biden is doing now.? I don't recall Reagan sluffing his words or shuffling in his walk or being consigned to the short stairs on Air Force One, while Biden is rapidly declining.? How long will it be before Biden needs a walker? Ed
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Re: Firday F9ve February 16
"I think this is the best answer yet"
I kind of agree. I would even extend that to include a wider range of mental activity, including emotional intelligence, the whole perhaps summed up by something like 'learn to use your mind effectively'.
On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 7:49?AM mrvnchpmn < chapman@...> wrote:
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1. Did you watch the Super Bowl
No, I work 3rd shift, so I slept through it. I probably wouldn’t have watched it anyway.
2. Will he Supreme Court overturn Colorado's attempt to keep Trump off the primary balllot?
In spite of experts claiming they know how the Supreme Court will rule, I think the Supreme Court is having a spirited debate about this. There are so many different issues at play. But ultimately, I think they will overturn Colorado’s ruling.
3, Should Biden be removed under the 25th amendment?
No.....because does anyone want Kamila Harris as president? Also, there is no indication that Biden's issues are affecting the country or in how he carries out his duties. We now know that Reagan had serious Alzheimer's during his the latter years of his presidency. While the president is certainly more than a figure head, it’s the people appointed by the president who carry out all the day to day work, which means on most days the president is essentially acting as figure heat.
4. Will the US go to war with Israel over the treatment of civilians in Gaza?
No, I can't imagine the US going to war with Israel for any reason. I think it is likely the US may up the behind the scenes pressure to get Israel to scale back, and at some point Israel will scale back in response to this pressure.
5. What concerns you the most at this point in history?
That most people have no ability to critically think--whether they lack the ability, or they lack the knowledge on how to critically think, or whether they just don't care/are too tired to critically think, I don't know. But this lack of critical thinking is increasingly being manipulated by evil people, and is destabilizing human society.
I think this is the best answer yet
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Re: Firday F9ve February 16
Thank you for that effort, Rhonda.
<<// ? ? ?We now know that Reagan had serious Alzheimer's during his the latter years of his presidency.?? ? ?// Could be, but I don't know it.? I'd appreciate a respectable reference or three.>>
OK, I don’t have 3 references, but here is 1:
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Re: Firday F9ve February 16
Familiarity with those reports has eroded the shock effect for me, but I still get angry. I would be alongside the bystander who tackled the shooter in Kansas City and I can only hope that I would subdue the person without kneeling on their neck. For a long time. The senseless mowing down of noncombatant families pisses me off.?
(And not at the firearms or the explosives or the mental illness, but at the abdication of responsibility for personal mental health that seems so acceptable in our culture. "If I cannot take a pill for it, then it is the fault of the people in charge of developing pills." I would try to get help or work my program, but it is too hard and it hurts, so I will just distract myself by harming those who are acting so damn healthy around me!
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On Sat, Feb 17, 2024 at 6:58?AM David Smith < dvdcsmth@...> wrote:
// ? ? ? U.S. citizens get shocked and angry over a school shooting by an isolated criminal?? ? ?//
Do they?? I wonder.? It's just something that most of us "know" only because mainstream media tell us.
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As Taoiseach, I had to deal with the painfully slow process whereby the Irish Republican movement came to recognise that killing people was never going to bring a United Ireland - or even a good life - for the people whose cause they sought to espouse.
This led me to reflect on how misconceptions about history can distort how people deal with present realities, and on how national myths need to be rigorously questioned. This is a major theme in the book. Violence is all too easy to glorify. It simplifies what is complex. It forces people to take sides rather than to think things through. It is far too easy to develop a cult around those who died young, and to ignore what was achieved by those who lived, rather than died, for their country. ?- ?John Bruton, Faith in Politics
—— ? 1.? Did you watch the Super Bowl?
Yes. It was not quite intentional, but it was on and while I was primarily doing computer activities, I did scan the game some. It was actually interesting at points and I thought the teams matched well.
2.? Will the Supreme Court overturn Colorado's attempt to keep Trump off the primary ballot?
It certainly seems probable right now, but I wonder how much of that is a show? Is the circus?trying to ensure the decision appears to the?masses as weighed and deliberate? I will not answer this one with a strong yea or?nay?because it certainly seems that Trump's accusers are hitting him on every front as though swarming a target they are worried may not topple. This has me wondering if the various attacks are less than decisive and that leaves me wondering whether the case will hold up clearly and strongly in the highest court.
3.? Should Biden be removed under the 25th amendment?
I do not think that media evidence should be used to judge a person's competence. The smallest of gaffs can be emphasized, magnified, exaggerated to look catastrophic. Brainwashing and propaganda. Due diligence is required here, including medical assessments by neutral professionals (I know, I know...but in theory!)?
Not only is this a potentially misused tool, but our culture allows those with "disabilities" to hold jobs as long as they can do those jobs with reasonable accommodation. While I am not a huge fan of President Biden, I am also protective of his right to hold the job as long as he is doing it in a manner no worse than the historical fumblings of a long line of predecessors. A few oral misspeaks and a couple of ambulatory stumbles are not?actual job performance mistakes.?If these are the worse?reasons for removal that can be brought to bear, I am unconvinced.?He has better accommodations than the average worker in the form of staff oversight.?
Let the voters decide if he presents the wrong image for a president, but do not set into motion a frivolous process precedent that will make removal that much easier down the line.
4.? ?Will the US go to war with Israel over the treatment of civilians in Gaza?
No. There is a lot of propaganda coming out against Israel's?performance in Gaza. (Just to be clear on my position, I find the tearful faces of Muslim children to be equally heart-wrenching as those of Israeli?children, or White American Suburban children, or Black African?children, or Chinese CPP children.) While I join with many in urging Israel to use compassion and selective care in rooting out the Hamas terrorist infrastructure and smashing it, I also will say (again) that historical precedent shows us this is a messy enterprise.
Hamas invaded sovereign Israeli space and murdered citizens before taking more citizens across the border. I can only imagine how horrifying this must be to those impacted. We do not have anything like this here except perhaps Cartels over the Mexican border kidnapping American citizens. We had the 911 attacks, which resulted in the U.S. invading a foreign country and spending years rooting out a terrorist organization with plenty of collateral damage, and we had the mess in Vietnam, but we have not been surrounded with enemies that can just push across a hundred yards of border defences and attack our towns. That is not a political TV media story, but rather an immediate and bloody survival reality.?
U.S. citizens get shocked and angry over a school shooting by an isolated criminal, but that situation is usually met by an overwhelming?and (typically) effective law enforcement?response. How would the populace react if Mexico or Canada sympathetically housed a well-funded, well-armed terrorist army that struck towns across the international?border and killed or kidnapped hundreds before retreating?back to the country involved and disappearing into comfortable bases camouflaged?by civilian infrastructure? Would we be content to negotiate with the country involved in an attempt to encourage them to root out their pet terrorists and return our people? Maybe offer them a few tanks, a nuke or a few million dollars to please be good?
Again, I am not?advocating?for indiscriminate civilian slaughter, nor am I intending to ignore the Palestinian side of the story. There are two sides, however, and for this question I am illustrating a possible explanation for Israel's actions. Hamas poked the bear and possibly expected to retreat relatively unmolested into the Gaza populace. Given Israel's history and?well-established?preparations, that was just plain stupid. Many other examples and studies have shown how difficult it can be to fight guerillas on their own turf. In Israel's case, surrounded by those who condemn the country and the people, it is a survival war. It is not a proxy war or a "conflict" or border skirmish. We are lucky that it has stayed mostly confined to one place.
No, the U.S. will not go to war with Israel. Given the nature of historical terrorist condemnation of the U.S., I would not be surprised to see this war expand to the point that we are fighting beside?the IDF in a wildfire guerilla nightmare.
5.? ?What concerns you the most at this point in history?
See above. I am equally concerned?with global warfare, climate change (in the geological and meteorological sense, not the political ridiculousness), expanding criminal activity?and the durability of my Social Security income. If I were strongarmed?into summarizing my perspective, I would say I am concerned with the social impact of a multiple-crisis crisis.
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Navajo declare moon sacred
The Navajo Nation is complaining that earth's moon is sacred to them, so a spacecraft carrying a trace of human remains there will defile it:
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