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Re: Friday Five Feb 25
1. Should horses be used by police to break up crowds of non armed protestors? Horses are frequently used for crowd control and are usually quite well suited to that work. The difference in Ottawa was in the way they were used, and probably more than that, the makeup of the crowd. This was not a young, drunk, disorderly mob such as they might have to control following a sporting event or rock concert. The protest group included elderly people, children, disabled people. And they were just standing still, sometimes singing the National Anthem, sometimes praying, sometimes telling the police officers in front of them that they loved them. The officers rode the horses right into the crowd, probably expecting them to scatter and probably unaware that a disabled woman on a mobility scooter was among them. But they lied after, saying anyone knocked over had walked away, no one was injured, and even claiming that someone among the protesters threw a bicycle at the horses, causing one to trip. In fact, the woman on the scooter was knocked over and trampled, and spent some time in the hospital because of it. Another person was also knocked down; I don't know whether she was injured. And the "bicycle" was the mobility scooter, not thrown but knocked over along with its disabled rider. The whole thing was an absolute disgrace. 2. How in your own commentaries do you separate fact from opinion? Commentaries are always opinion. 3. Do you think people who might offend again if released on bail should be denied bail? Depends on what they are charged with. The guy who drove through the Santa Claus parade in - was it Wisconsin? - should not have been out on bail, after a domestic violence incident. But Tamara Lich, organizer of the Freedom Convoy, should have been granted bail. She was only charged with mischief. None of the arrested protesters were charged with anything more than mischief. Yet Tamara Lich is still in prison, more than a week after her arrest. Note that the judge who denied her bail ran for the Liberal party in a federal election a few years ago. The Liberal corruption reaches its tentacles into everything. 4. Do you think the sanctions imposed against Russia are going to have any effect? Not unless they impose some with teeth. 5. Is Justin Trudeau in violation of the Canadian Charter or Rights? Yes. Freezing the bank accounts of people who donated even small sums to a cause that was perfectly legal was a violation of the Charter. Arresting people who were protesting peacefully and legally was a violation. Invoking the Emergencies Act for a clearly trivial reason may have been a violation of the Charter and may also have been illegal. At least 3 organizations are continuing with their legal challenges to invoking the Act, Trudeau is going to have to answer for it in court. It may result in criminal charges. Pat ?????? |
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Re: Friday Five Feb 25
开云体育Yes I try to find reputable sources to see what the facts are. Yes Yes, but it will take some time. Definitely not, as is illustrated here: Aloha, Celeste Rogers |
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FRIDAY FIVE
Amy Thompson
开云体育1.? Should horses be used by police to break up crowds of non-armed protestors?? Only if the protesters get out of hand. ? ? 2.? How in your own commentaries do you separate fact from opinion?? With difficulty. ? ? 3.? Do you think people who might offend again if released on bail should be denied bail?? Yes. ? ? 4.? Do you think the sanctions imposed against Russia are going to have any effect?? Perhaps in time. ? ? 5.? Is Justin Trudeau in violation of the Canadian Charter of Rights?? Yes. ? Amy
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Re: Friday Five Feb 25
By trained and skilled riders, I would consider the situation. Like any tool, judiciously, as long as there is no unusual level of danger to horse, rider or protestor. The real question is whether there is a need to break up non-armed protestors in the situation being discussed.
Yes. I try, anyway.?
Yes. I understand the logistics, but I am a bit of a backcountry?hard-liner with my opinions on this:? if they are released and they do offend, victims and citizens have the right to stop the offender. That right should be protected by the society in question.
There are hopeful? news commentaries?and indications, but I feel wary. Options that could change the dynamics may exist, such as new Russia-China economic agreements? I am no economic expert.
I can't?say as I am not familiar with? the country's relevant laws?and values. |
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Re: Friday Five Feb 25
- 1.? Should horses be used by police to break up crowds of non armed protestors? .Only when massive stupidity reigns . 2.? How in your own commentaries do you separate fact from opinion? With great difficulty 3.? Do you think people who might offend again if released on bail should be denied bail? It depends omn wghat their probable future offense would be 4.? Do you think the sanctions imposed against Russia are going to have any effect? not the way they have been i,pposed so far 5.? Is Justin Trudeau in violation of the Canadian Charter or Rights? I don't know but he certainly is pushing the limits |
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Re: Friday Five Feb 25
1.? Should horses be used by police to break up crowds of non armed protestors? . 2.? How in your own commentaries do you separate fact from opinion? 3.? Do you think people who might offend again if released on bail should be denied bail? 4.? Do you think the sanctions imposed against Russia are going to have any effect? 5.? Is Justin Trudeau in violation of the Canadian Charter or Rights? |
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Re: Friday Five February 18
Amy Thompson
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Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2022 2:05 PM To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; Philosophical M <[email protected]>; Scholars Scribes <m-scholars-and-scribes@...> Subject: Re: [M-Powered] Friday Five February 18 ?
No No Yes I didn't see them all, but didn't like any that I saw. Satire usually comes from satire sites, but even when it doesn't it's usually easy to tell due to its silliness. Aloha, Celeste |
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Wag the Dog movie
I am surprised and horrified that no one remembers the movie Wag the Dog. It was about creating reality by the use of greenscreen.? A politician wanted to create an uproar about attrocities in a foreign country so an alternative reality was created - showed exactly how. Reminds me way too much of what is going on with Ukraine today. Marvin |
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Re: Friday Five February 18
开云体育No No Yes I didn't see them all, but didn't like any that I saw. Satire usually comes from satire sites, but even when it doesn't it's usually easy to tell due to its silliness. Aloha, Celeste |
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Friday Five February 18
Amy Thompson
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1. ?Have you ever seen the movie Wag the Dog?
No.
2. ?Have you ever quit a job because it was bad for your health?
No.
3. ?Do you think the government is monitoring social media?
Yes, of course.
4. ?What was your favorite Super bowl ad this year?
I have not watched the Super Bowl.
5. ?How can you tell satire from real reporting?
It should be obvious when a site's stories are outrageous or intended to entertain through satire.Amy
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Re: Friday Five February 18
No?
Not exactly, but I have moved to a lower-impact per-diem nursing job because I spent a year in a nursing home during this pandemic. I was helped along because the nursing home found some fulltime and parttime nurses, though, reducing its need for per-diem staff.?
Duh. Every character typed. ?
DId not see the Bowl or the ads.?
I cruise the Internet, comparing different reporting perspectives and? associated?studies or other clues in order to distill points or facts that seem fundamental to the situation. Beyond that, I make no claims.
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Re: [m-scholars-and-scribes] Re: Friday Five February 18
1.? Have you ever seen the movie Wag the Dog? Yes 2.? Have you ever quit a job because it was bad for your health? yes 3.? Do you think the government is monitoring social media? Yes - scary 4.? What was your favorite Superbowl ad this year? Bidweiser - though the Irish Spring one was good as well.? Generally they were unwatchable
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Re: [m-scholars-and-scribes] Re: Friday Five February 18
1.? Have you ever seen the movie Wag the Dog? Yes 2.? Have you ever quit a job because it was bad for your health? yes 3.? Do you think the government is monitoring social media? Yes - scary 4.? What was your favorite Superbowl ad this year? Bidweiser - though the Irish Spring one was good as well.? Generally they were unwatchable
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Re: Friday Five February 11
开云体育—— On Feb 14, 2022, at 18:14, Pat Trivers <pat_trivers@...> wrote:
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Friday Five February 11
1. Are you watching the Olympics? Some but not a lot. I miss the audiences, and really, really hate seeing athletes trying to catch their breath after a competition with a big stupid useless mask on their faces. 2. Have you ever engaged in an act of civil disobedience? No. Unless I can count the jean strike in grade 9. Back when I started High School girls were still required to wear dresses to school, and boys to wear dress pants. Of course we all wanted to wear jeans instead. Within the first couple of weeks of my first term in school, the seniors organized a jean strike, where on a chosen Friday every student in school arrived in jeans. They couldn't suspend all of us. Very shortly after that the school dropped its dress requirements and we all wore jeans for the rest of our school years. The same principle still works; look at the all the people who arrived in Ottawa carrying jerry cans as soon as the Law banned delivering fuel to the truckers. That rule didn't stand up for very long. 3. Should vaccine passports be required at major conventions? Of course not. Vaccine passports and mandates are completely useless. Getting a vaccine protects only the one person who got the shot, it has no effect on anyone else. So whether or not you decide that the benefits outweigh the risks for you and choose to get the shot is nobody else's business. 4. How long can you last without items hauled by commercial truck? Quite a while, but it would be inconvenient, and I might have to live on oatmeal and rice. Canada depends on the USA to ship in fresh fruits and vegetables in winter, so those would disappear very quickly. I haven't been driving a lot in the last 2 years; a tank of gas lasts me about 4 months and I just filled up, so no problem there. Could make direct arrangements with local farms for meat and dairy. Might be interesting. A good way to wean us all off Amazon. 5. Who is the most irritating politician you have seen this week? Justin Trudeau. Not just irritating but also infuriating, disgusting, appalling. Thankfully, his stubbornly stupid behaviour over the last 3 weeks is opening the eyes of people who hadn't seen before what he is really like. They are finally seeing him for the immature, arrogant, incompetent, treasonous little weasel that he really is. Last poll I saw only 16% of Canadians would still want him to be Prime Minister. Pat |
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Friday Five
Amy Thompson
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1. Are you watching the Olympics?
No, I never watch sports.
2. ?Have you ever engaged in an act of civil disobedience?
No, I don't think I have.
3. ?Should vaccine passports be required at major conventions?
In my opinion yes.
4. ?How long can you last without items hauled by commercial truck?
Not very long.
5. ?Who is the most irritating politician you have seen this week?
Vladimir Putin, who I hope will not invade Ukraine.Amy
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Re: Friday Five February 11
开云体育Off and on No Yes, they should be required at any large, indoor gathering. I don't know, but nothing gets to Hawaii by commercial truck. Vladimir Putin Aloha, Celeste |
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Re: Friday Five February 11
1, Are you watching the Olympics? No
2.? Have you ever engaged in an act of civil disobedience?3 Yes in college 3.? Should vaccine passports be required at major conventions? ?No but apparently they are going to be required at the AG in July 4.? How long can you last without items hauled by commercial truck?3 Probably about a wek 5.? Who is the most irritating politician you have seen this week? Not sure but certainly Justin Trudeau ranks high |
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