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On Feb 20, 2024, at 16:26, Darrell King <DarrellGKing@...> wrote:
? I expect the boil and I am prepared to be cooked. Having said that, and now admitting my powerlessness to extricate myself with an athletic leap, I prepare for increasing heat best I can and try to network with other frogs who might be willing to band together to build boats. I chose?that curse because I find?it hard to believe there is any possibility of escaping the?pot.?
D On Tue, Feb 20, 2024 at 1:04?PM David Smith < dvdcsmth@...> wrote:
// ? ? ? I have seen and heard enough over the past few years to believe that the accumulation of social stressors is pushing society in a direction of increasing?unrest and decreasing crisis coping. While this is not so very shocking from a historical perspective (and the changes to the environment are certainly not geologically impressive), it is new to me and I feel it is prudent to take note and react as it?may?get much worse.?? ? ?//
Crisis upon crisis upon crisis, and each an invitation to the bureaucrats and technocrats who now rule us to do something drastic, like ban oil, automate car travel, put a screen into space to protect us from the sun, and aggressively protect everyone from the vile words of the evil people who openly disagree with the leaders' programs.? The screws are being tightened and the temperature of the water in the cook-pot is rising, crisis by crisis, and yet the frog is content because the warm water is pleasant.
? Agreed, Anabel. I am more the practical focus kind of student than the theoretical exploration kind. For my purposes, it suffices to study whether the weather patterns will have any significant impact on my activities or health. This drives me to keep an eye on the subject, but with more attention to questions like where should I spend the summer months, do I need to arrange for a reliable water supply or am I in a potential wildfire zone? One issue I specifically shy away from discussing?with?friends and family is whether humans are exacerbating a changing climate trend. Way bad dinner topic, like politics or religion!
I have seen and heard enough over the past few years to believe that the accumulation of social stressors is pushing society in a direction of increasing?unrest and decreasing crisis coping. While this is not so very shocking from a historical perspective (and the changes to the environment are certainly not geologically impressive), it is new to me and I feel it is prudent to take note and react as it may?get much worse.
On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 12:17?PM Anabel Perez via <perezbem= [email protected]> wrote: Ahh the britannica, it was one of the "important" purchases when I was young.
As to weather change, I follow two rules: there are some macro patterns or whatever that have changed in the last 50 years (or less), like receding icemarkers in Antartica, and the local small clearly human driven changes, like deforestation or overusage of soiles that generate barren places in just a couple of years. Both are easily seen by any individual that just takes a look and verified by any number of scientific and economical studies.
What seems to be the new discussion is what causes the first macro changes: is it human driven? or is a natural phase? Can we do anything about it?
i guess it's hard to accept human influence on a wordly scale.
When the ozone "hole" appeared in Antartica and later closed ?did we do any of that?
Are we really causing the general temperatures to rise (at least in Buenos Aires, it has been over the last 100 years or so)?
I believe we are, but I guess there's still room for faith and cherrypicking the science that will support one explanation or the other.
Slds
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El lunes, 19 de febrero de 2024, 14:00:53 ART, a1thighmaster < thighmaster@...> escribi¨®:
Ed,
What exactly makes you think they were wrong? Extremes are the
hallmark of climate change.
Aloha,
Celeste
On 2/19/2024 2:15 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
The "worst drought in recorded history" ?disappeared-despite the
experts (soothsayers) learned predictions.
Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as usual, with
multi-million dollar homes built on dirt cliffs sliding into the
ocean again.
How could a consensus of climate experts possibly be
wrong?!
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