Re: What happened to climate change?
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Exactly, Marvin. As is probably apparent now, the biggest surprise for me is that people spend so much time arguing the point in social interactions as opposed to considering coping skills for it. Or even just using the time to study the situation. We can correlate changes to weather patterns with possibly contributing human?behavioral patterns, but it has become blaringly obvious after witnessing?endless hours of tedious discussion and argument that humanity is not favoring the adoption of new behaviors. After years (decades?) of argument, the mob remains unconvinced.? A few wind farms and some new reactors are not a concerted global alarmed reaction to prophesied doom. We want to continue our personal paths without being too badly inconvenienced (except for Greta.)
So, really, the question is more, "Whatcha gonna do?"
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On Mon, Feb 19, 2024 at 1:39?PM mrvnchpmn < chapman@...> wrote:
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I live on a Pelstocene Marine Terrace left over from a period about 12,000 years ago when sea level was about a hundred feet higher.? And fossils on the sea floor off my coast indicate that sometime not long before that sea levels were about fifty feet lower.
Change hapnens - deal with it
Marvin
From 900 AD to 1800 AD, there was a Medieval Warm Period followed by the Little Ice Age.? Prior to recorded history, there were several ice ages.? I believe the earth is going through a warm spell, but not that it's all caused by an increase of a couple hundred parts per million too much carbon dioxide, and that is excess CO2 is in turn caused by wealthy people's motorcars and jet airplanes.
Ed
On Monday, February 19, 2024, Anabel Perez via <perezbem= [email protected]> wrote:
Ahh the britannica, it was one of the "important" purchases when I was young.
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As to weather change, I follow two rules: there are some macro patterns or whatever that have changed in the last 50 years (or less), like receding icemarkers in Antartica, and the local small clearly human driven changes, like deforestation or overusage of soiles that generate barren places in just a couple of years. Both are easily seen by any individual that just takes a look and verified by any number of scientific and economical studies.
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What seems to be the new discussion is what causes the first macro changes: is it human driven? or is a natural phase? Can we do anything about it?
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i guess it's hard to accept human influence on a wordly scale.
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When the ozone "hole" appeared in Antartica and later closed ?did we do any of that?
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Are we really causing the general temperatures to rise (at least in Buenos Aires, it has been over the last 100 years or so)?
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I believe we are, but I guess there's still room for faith and cherrypicking the science that will support one explanation or the other.
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El lunes, 19 de febrero de 2024, 14:00:53 ART, a1thighmaster < thighmaster@...> escribió: ?
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Ed,
What exactly makes you think they were wrong? Extremes are the hallmark of climate change.
Aloha,
Celeste
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On 2/19/2024 2:15 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
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The "worst drought in recorded history" ?disappeared-despite the experts (soothsayers) learned predictions.
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Now we're back to floods and mudslides, as usual, with multi-million dollar homes built on dirt cliffs sliding into the ocean again.
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How could a consensus of climate experts possibly be wrong?!
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