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Re: Biden's plans


 



The great majority of people who were tried and convicted in the Spanish Inquisition suffered civil penalties - not execution.

Marvin

with a comment like that? you have the unmitigated nerve to call Joe Biden dumb .....ROFLMAO?

On Thursday, January 21, 2021, 06:01:16 PM CST, mrvnchpmn <chapman@...> wrote:




The Spanish Inquisition was a non event if you actually look at the statistics - more people were burned at the stake in France than in Spain.

The officer had his knee on the man's neck because that was what he was taught - you could easily recommend different training - but sometimes there is no alternative to doing what you are trained to do.

Marvin

About like there was no shooting during the Spanish Inquisition , just burning at the stake. The officer's knee was on the man's neck for what 8 minutes as I recall.?

On Tuesday, January 19, 2021, 04:36:00 PM CST, mrvnchpmn <chapman@...> wrote:


Incidentally there was no shooting involved in the George Floyd case - it was an officer engaging in a control move taught at the academy.

It would be a good idea to review the training - but also look at the autopsy - which showed Floyd with high levels of methamphatamine in his blood - otherwise known as he was high as a kite.

Marvin


I don't understand your perspective.? How can times be so good if Trump is the worst president in history?
Up till 2020, the country was in excellent shape, despite the Democrats' incessant effort to unseat Trump since he started his term.
Unemployment was at record lows, the stock market was at record highs, we were disengaging from wars, not entering them, and black employment was the highest in history and the black/white wage gap was at its lowest.? Trump dealt succesfully with North Korea, got us out of Syria, and increased sanctions on Russia and Iran.? He put other members of NATO on notice to pay their bills and got us out of counterproductive groups like WHO and the Paris Accords, renegiotiated the failed NAFTA agreement while dealing with China and its unfair trade policies.

Coronavirus set the world back, and Trump's administration dealt with coronavirus by closing borders and commissioning vaccines in record time by cutting red tape.? Despite news reports to the contrary, the US is not the world's worst country, nor is it worse than the EU. ?(Most of Africa doesn't record deaths at all, China's rate of covid is suspiciously low, as are many other Asian countries that basically do nothing about it, so you can only compare the US with other western nations.)

The George Floyd protests were caused by police shootings, which were the result of the militarization of the police force, which occurred under Obama's watch and since 9/11.? The protests also contributed significantly to the spread of covid, as the graphs clearly show.

The Democrats scarcely campaigned; ?Biden suddenly emerged from the back of the pack late in the primaries, which was a backroom deal if there ever was one, and the party's strategy was to raise discontent of an already stricken nation by blaming everything on Trump.

Most Democrats won't agree with the preceding, and some moderates buy into all that as well, but they should ask themselves when were times better?

I wasn't around between the Civil War and the Great Depression, and WWII, or the Korean War but came of age with the Red Scare, when McCarthyism took hold, followed by the Cuban Missile Crisis, the Berlin Wall, and everything else associated with the Cold War.? Then we had the Civil Righs unrest, political assassinations, during the War in Vietnam and all those protests, Watergate, the economic crisis of the Carter years when we saw everyone's wealth destroyed by the inflationary recession, and ?brief respite during the Reagan years, followed by the first invasion of Iraq, and the Cliinton years with all its scandals, the specter of AIDS, and the failure of NAFTA, and Chinese influence through campaign financing.? During those years, we also say American factories close and the middle class gutted as American companies moved production to China with impunity.? Under Clinton, the dotcom bubble built up unabated with day trading that ruined millions of retirement savings.

The GW Bush administration was also an awful period in our history, starting with 9/11, the ill-conceived and hastily written Patriot Act that eroded civil rights, followed by the neverending war in Afghanistan and the occupation in Iraq.? Domestically, we had the housing bubble, which crashed at the end of Bush's second term, ruining the equity again of millions of Americans.

Obama's years weren't exactly copacetic, either, as Obama dithered, keeping Afghanistan and Iraq festering and bleeding our economy dry while his anti-business executive orders quashed business expansion, making the slowest recovery in history.? During Obama's watch, the opoid crises festered, while the Affordable Care Act, which gave away medical care to millions of poor Americans, made medical care unaffordable for privately insured middle class Americans like small businesses, which were largely ignored during the Obama years, despite being the biggest drivers to our economy.

So, aside from the Reagan years, which were meh, not great, what period would you choose to live in that was better than the first three years of the Trump administration?? I'll agree that Trump was probably the worst orator in all that time, and was, personally about the most abrasive and unlikable person to ascend to the presidency since Truman, but who cares when the economy is stable and everyone has a job and there aren't any wars?

Ed

















On Tuesday, January 19, 2021, Christian Nielsen <chrispnielsen@...> wrote:
Ed, I suppose it all comes down to one's perspective. As an Independent voter who has voted both Republican and Democrat in my life, I see Trump as the worst president in history. Clearly, you don't see him that way.? It's okay that we agree to disagree.

Christian


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ed Lomas <relomas2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 10:06 AM
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"The sky isn't falling now that Trump didn't get re-relected....". Christian

The sky didn't fall in under four years of Trump, either, though he was castigated for some fuzzy reasons such as 'damaging America's standing' in the world, when most Americans have no conception of how America is perceived elsewhere. ?

Trump is the first president in decades to stand up to the military, and even his modest resistance was treated as if it were a great tragedy for the free world. ?

He ignored Russia and confronted China, and now Biden will ignore China, the world's biggest threat, as Obama did, and puck a fight with Russia, a country with about as many people as Mexico and an economy about the size of Canada's.
Ed

On Tuesday, January 19, 2021, Amy Thompson <riisna@...> wrote:
Trump screwed up just about every day.

Amy


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ed Lomas <relomas2@...>
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 8:42 AM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
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Repeat that tomorrow after you see all his executive orders prepared by the party that he signs to fill their agenda.
By the way, Trump isn¡¯t a conservative, which is interesting because of the amount of hatred that he¡¯s stirred up from the left.? Both Trump and Biden play to their crowd; neither has strong convictions. ?

A few years ago, Biden was despised by women for his treatment of Anita Hill during Clarence Thomas¡¯ nomination hearings.? He was despised by the black community for his support for a tough law that resulted in ?millions of black men getting thrown in prison.? But since he was Obama¡¯s VP all has been forgiven.? It¡¯s just a matter time before he screws up, as Obama put it in a coarser way, despite the party propping him up.

Ed

On Tuesday, January 19, 2021, a1thighmaster <thighmaster@...> wrote:
Ed,

You're dreaming. Biden is not a liberal.

Aloha,
Celeste Rogers
Chair and Editor
Mensa Hawai'i

On 1/19/2021 3:06 AM, Ed Lomas wrote:
Okay, we're just going to do everything liberals have dreamed if in one day without regard to the other party because the Democrats have a two vote mahority in thr House and a one vote majority in the Senate. ?....and we're going to unite the country while completely ignoring the concerns of the other half. ? What's wrong with that plan?
Ed



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