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Re: Upgrading older G-11

 

Brian and Keith,

Thanks for clarifying the situation with these upgrade options.? I will likely wait on the SLW idea.? But I might do the RA extension.? My setup is not permanent and it might be handy to split out the DEC portion.

Steve


Re: Need advice selling my Losmandy G11 492 Digital Drive

 

as @pcborland is interested in the mount head?

I am interested in the tripod base as I just bought a G11 locally but am not happy with the lighter weight tripod that it was sold with.

I think perhaps we can figure this out??

There are ways to ship this and if you keep the weight down below 50# per box it is less expensive.?

Flat rate boxes are cheap for very heavy items like weights. Perhaps @pcborland would mull over also buying the weights because they are 32mm bore?

I can be reached on Cloudy Nights where you can message me directly or email at @mikeby.mikeby and the last half is at? gmail dot com

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Re: Meridian Flips and NINA

 

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 06:50 PM, <pcboreland@...> wrote:
I would thing there has got to be a problem in the math.
Peter,

As I recall with my exchanges with Rene in 2018 when he wrote the Beta ware, he said there was some tricky calculations which occur near the meridian. Several of the issues some of us have seen over the past few years have that common theme, like the mount not responding to an app slew command to an object east or west unless you were already on that side of the meridian. Or the scope pointing into the ground. Or the wild slews. The Beta ware fixed many of these quirks for me, but perhaps the size of the fix needs to be enlarged, whatever that means in software speak. The Gemini logs I forwarded at that time helped with the solution. If you know how to read the code lines, you might see further into what happens at the noted points in recorded time when you see a problem.?


Re: Need advice selling my Losmandy G11 492 Digital Drive

 

Just did a PayPal sale recently. The buyer must add 3% to their transaction amount for the seller to get full price requested.?


Re: Need advice selling my Losmandy G11 492 Digital Drive

 

Bob H. here, if you consider "friends" in Pay Pal you lose a large part of the protections that PayPal gives to buyer and seller, especially the seller if something goes wrong.? Additionally there are 2 types of shipping costs, 1 covers just the transportation and the 2nd option gives a greater degree of protection of the shipped goods, so clarifying the difference to a buyer will protect both parties if problems arise. Lastly Cloudy nights is a viable option and there are methods to checking background of buyer mostly this will give a greater degree of safety to a seller. well that's my thoughts and data base on selling your mount. Respectfully submitted.


Re: Meridian Flips and NINA

 

Hay everyone,

I've uploaded another video that shows the problem some 7 hours later in the day, for those here that might have insight as to what might be going on here. Since I first showed the problem this morning, I have since reset Gemini II and re-entered all my data.?

Its a fascinating problem as it moves along the meridian so hard to nail. I would thing there has got to be a problem in the math.



Peter

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Re: Upgrading older G-11

Keith
 

Hi Steve.? I was/am in the same boat, and for me it doesn't make much financial sense to upgrade vs. selling what I have and purchasing new.? You might be interested in this thread:?/g/Losmandy_users/message/67900.

Keith


Availability of G11G?

fuadramsey
 

I'm looking to switch from Celestron to Losmandy!

Any idea when the G11G will become available??

I signed up for the waiting list.


Thanks!


Re: Upgrading older G-11

 

Hi Steve

you can do the high torque motors and RA Extension yourself

the spring-loaded worm is factory-installed only

Brian

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 2:53 PM Steve Preston via <stevepr=[email protected]> wrote:
I have a twenty year old G-11 which I upgraded to a Gemini-2 a few years ago.? Now I am interested in upgrading to the spring loaded worms.? After reviewing the information on the Losmandy website, I am interested in the following components:
  • Spring loaded worm blocks + worms
  • High Torque motors (might need to gear/motor housing)?
  • RAEXK (my motors will NOT be tucked)

Does this make sense or do I need to ship my mount to Losmandy to add these components?? If it does make sense to order these components and install myself, what is the best way to order?

Thanks
Steve



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Upgrading older G-11

 

I have a twenty year old G-11 which I upgraded to a Gemini-2 a few years ago.? Now I am interested in upgrading to the spring loaded worms.? After reviewing the information on the Losmandy website, I am interested in the following components:
  • Spring loaded worm blocks + worms
  • High Torque motors (might need to gear/motor housing)?
  • RAEXK (my motors will NOT be tucked)

Does this make sense or do I need to ship my mount to Losmandy to add these components?? If it does make sense to order these components and install myself, what is the best way to order?

Thanks
Steve


Re: Needle bearings and axial play, is this a significant performance problem and how difficult is it to fix?

 

I thought the slew rate was limited by how fast the controller can count pulses?


Re: Meridian Flips and NINA

 

Peter please see comments re: support ticket

I've tried both sides.

can we use the ticket to get this sorted, thanks. Easier to respond in one place

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 12:34 PM pcboreland via <pcboreland=[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 11:59 AM, Brian Valente wrote:
Peter can you please email me, i must \not have your correct email address i'm at brian at losmandy dot com
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Brian,

I think you must have it now as I just got an email. The test you did does not match mine. You need to slew on the other side of the meridian. Look at the coordinates in my video and you will see what I mean. I have the coordinates. mirrored horizontal. (Chart/transformation/mirror horizontally) in my setup.

Peter



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Re: Meridian Flips and NINA

 

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 11:59 AM, Brian Valente wrote:
Peter can you please email me, i must \not have your correct email address i'm at brian at losmandy dot com
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Brian,

I think you must have it now as I just got an email. The test you did does not match mine. You need to slew on the other side of the meridian. Look at the coordinates in my video and you will see what I mean. I have the coordinates. mirrored horizontal. (Chart/transformation/mirror horizontally) in my setup.

Peter


Re: Meridian Flips and NINA

 

Peter can you please email me, i must \not have your correct email address i'm at brian at losmandy dot com

thx

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 9:35 AM pcboreland via <pcboreland=[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 09:14 AM, Brian Valente wrote:
i was hoping to see this demonstration on the hand controller - I'm still not clear if you see this on the gemini by itself? without hooking up an external application.
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Brian,

As I said this same thing happens using the hand controller. The scope is is this position per the image for this area of the sky in the video. It's not easy to make a video out in a field, in the sun looking at green digits that appear already in the panel to the right of the video, and therefore some what pointless.??



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Re: Needle bearings and axial play, is this a significant performance problem and how difficult is it to fix?

 

Here is may latest frequency plot from last night.? 125:1 gearbox. No PEC. Old thrust bearings.

In the first attached image we see the movement of the worm over almost 4 hrs.?

In the second image we see the raw frequency response. The p-p of the 80s bearing error is down massively to 1.2 arc-sec, from an earlier posting. I changed over to using a single pressure washer that compresses the ball bearings. The 240s error p-p is 2.6 arc-sec, and the 2600s error is a massive 5.8 arc-sec. I've not see this error so well defined before on shorter guiding runs. I believe this error is due to the roller bearings (either thrust or the needle bearings). I still have my original Losmandy thrust bearings in place, but will be changing over to the McMaster-Carr one this weekend.

The third? image shows the impact of guiding. The 2600s error is gone. The 80s error is now p-p 0.4 arc-sec, and the 240s error is arc-sec 0.3 arc-sec.?


Re: Needle bearings and axial play, is this a significant performance problem and how difficult is it to fix?

 

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 10:26 PM, alan137 wrote:
How does one get to the thrust bearings?
What's the source and part number for the encoders?
What's the maximum slew rate with the 1024 encoders?
Thrust Bearings:?

McMaster-Car? Needle Roller Trust Bearing for 1-1/4" shaft, 1 -15/16" OD part number 5909K38
McMaster-Car? Needle Roller Trust Bearing for 3" shaft, 3 3/4"" OD part number 5909K28

Optical Encoders: US Digital,? call sales department to order, Part number E2-1024-125-NE-D-D-B

Since the gear boxes remain at 25:1 the slew rate ought to be the same. US same values.?

Peter


Re: Meridian Flips and NINA

 

Peter i'm going to open a ticket with your email address

We need more specifics here, i'm unable to reproduce based on what you sent

look for direct email

Brian


On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 9:35 AM pcboreland via <pcboreland=[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 09:14 AM, Brian Valente wrote:
i was hoping to see this demonstration on the hand controller - I'm still not clear if you see this on the gemini by itself? without hooking up an external application.
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Brian,

As I said this same thing happens using the hand controller. The scope is is this position per the image for this area of the sky in the video. It's not easy to make a video out in a field, in the sun looking at green digits that appear already in the panel to the right of the video, and therefore some what pointless.??



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Re: Meridian Flips and NINA

 

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 09:14 AM, Brian Valente wrote:
i was hoping to see this demonstration on the hand controller - I'm still not clear if you see this on the gemini by itself? without hooking up an external application.
?
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Brian,

As I said this same thing happens using the hand controller. The scope is is this position per the image for this area of the sky in the video. It's not easy to make a video out in a field, in the sun looking at green digits that appear already in the panel to the right of the video, and therefore some what pointless.??


Re: Meridian Flips and NINA

 

Hi Peter

i was hoping to see this demonstration on the hand controller - I'm still not clear if you see this on the gemini by itself? without hooking up an external application.







On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 8:58 AM pcboreland via <pcboreland=[email protected]> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 08:27 AM, Brian Valente wrote:
Peter most importantly is what steps can someone take to reproduce it
Brian,



I made this 3min video of the problem occurring. This was after doing a hand controller reset and entering all my data anew. As you will see, as the bulls eye moves from the CDW position and it gets close to the target it winks out a reappears in the lower left corner of the screen. I was able to move to bullseye "scope" to another target in this "dead zone", and then out of the dead zone where the bulls eye reappears.?

I think this makes the whole problem clear for folks here so that they can do their own tests. I first noticed this problem in January during galaxy season. This was before making any changes to gearboxes etc.

I will email this link to Rene, perhaps you too could contact him.?

Peter



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Re: Meridian Flips and NINA

 

On Thu, Jul 22, 2021 at 08:27 AM, Brian Valente wrote:
Peter most importantly is what steps can someone take to reproduce it
Brian,



I made this 3min video of the problem occurring. This was after doing a hand controller reset and entering all my data anew. As you will see, as the bulls eye moves from the CDW position and it gets close to the target it winks out a reappears in the lower left corner of the screen. I was able to move to bullseye "scope" to another target in this "dead zone", and then out of the dead zone where the bulls eye reappears.?

I think this makes the whole problem clear for folks here so that they can do their own tests. I first noticed this problem in January during galaxy season. This was before making any changes to gearboxes etc.

I will email this link to Rene, perhaps you too could contact him.?

Peter