Re: Astronomy software & capture software
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if they weren't aware, they are now. I'm not sure I need an upgrade yet but it's not clear if you get a new camera if you have to upgrade to get the drivers!
SGP uses ASCOM so I don't think support for future cameras is in jeopardy (at least ASCOM support: native support may be a different thing)
you're right, if someone buys in right now it's $149. then you have the option of that yearly subscription to keep up with future updates.?
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Brian
I got the email but was surprised at the renewal fee of $149. I just put it out there so if viewers, if they weren't aware, they are now. I'm not sure I need an upgrade yet but it's not clear if you get a new camera if you have to upgrade to get the drivers!
Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Brian Valente < bvalente@...> To: Losmandy_users < [email protected]> Sent: Wed, Oct 7, 2020 02:40 PM Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Astronomy software & capture software Chuck you should check with them
they will waive the $149 for existing license holders
You can use 3.1 indefinitely. 3.2 is the subscription version
the links etc. were sent out in an email. if you need those again, drop me a line and i can try to dig up that email Brian
My license shows 3 available, subscription ended, $149 & $59/year to continue. My version 3.2 works but updates don't work!!! Looks like they've joined the dark side of the force (AKA $$$).
Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Brian Valente < bvalente@...> To: Losmandy_users < [email protected]> Sent: Wed, Oct 7, 2020 02:28 PM Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Astronomy software & capture software Yes i did.?
i read through that pretty thoroughly because i have 6 licenses for SGP (they sell it in 3 packs and i needed 4 so that's where i ended up)
I decided to give it a year and see what $50+/year subscription gets me. if they do significant improvements that are meaningful to me, i'll continue that.?
If not, i'll just stop and stick with the version i have.? Fortunately they allow you to continue to use the version you have without a subscription, so it seems reasonable
BrianDid you get the same notice from SGP that they've gone to yearly fee service?
Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Brian Valente < bvalente@...> To: Losmandy_users < [email protected]> Sent: Wed, Oct 7, 2020 02:22 PM Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Astronomy software & capture software Hi again Tony
Pretty much all software works great with Losmandy Gemini,?thanks to its excellent ASCOM software program Gemini Telescope.net
For capture software i've?personally used many solutions, including Sequence Generator Pro (my current favorite), NINA, Maxim DL, The Sky X, Sharpcap, ACP, etc. They all work extremely well for me and my Losmandy mounts with Gemini II.
Brian
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 1:51 PM Tony Gabriele via <tgabriele73= [email protected]> wrote: I would like to hear from my fellow Losmandy users as to what they deem the best astronomy software that is most compatible with Gemini 2 to control the telescope, and which capture software is also the most compatible.
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Re: Astronomy software & capture software
Brian
I got the email but was surprised at the renewal fee of $149. I just put it out there so if viewers, if they weren't aware, they are now. I'm not sure I need an upgrade yet but it's not clear if you get a new camera if you have to upgrade to get the drivers!
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Brian Valente <bvalente@...> To: Losmandy_users < [email protected]> Sent: Wed, Oct 7, 2020 02:40 PM Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Astronomy software & capture software Chuck you should check with them
they will waive the $149 for existing license holders
You can use 3.1 indefinitely. 3.2 is the subscription version
the links etc. were sent out in an email. if you need those again, drop me a line and i can try to dig up that email Brian
My license shows 3 available, subscription ended, $149 & $59/year to continue. My version 3.2 works but updates don't work!!! Looks like they've joined the dark side of the force (AKA $$$).
Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Brian Valente < bvalente@...> To: Losmandy_users < [email protected]> Sent: Wed, Oct 7, 2020 02:28 PM Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Astronomy software & capture software Yes i did.?
i read through that pretty thoroughly because i have 6 licenses for SGP (they sell it in 3 packs and i needed 4 so that's where i ended up)
I decided to give it a year and see what $50+/year subscription gets me. if they do significant improvements that are meaningful to me, i'll continue that.?
If not, i'll just stop and stick with the version i have.? Fortunately they allow you to continue to use the version you have without a subscription, so it seems reasonable
BrianDid you get the same notice from SGP that they've gone to yearly fee service?
Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Brian Valente < bvalente@...> To: Losmandy_users < [email protected]> Sent: Wed, Oct 7, 2020 02:22 PM Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Astronomy software & capture software Hi again Tony
Pretty much all software works great with Losmandy Gemini,?thanks to its excellent ASCOM software program Gemini Telescope.net
For capture software i've?personally used many solutions, including Sequence Generator Pro (my current favorite), NINA, Maxim DL, The Sky X, Sharpcap, ACP, etc. They all work extremely well for me and my Losmandy mounts with Gemini II.
Brian
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 1:51 PM Tony Gabriele via <tgabriele73= [email protected]> wrote: I would like to hear from my fellow Losmandy users as to what they deem the best astronomy software that is most compatible with Gemini 2 to control the telescope, and which capture software is also the most compatible.
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Re: Astronomy software & capture software
Chuck you should check with them
they will waive the $149 for existing license holders
You can use 3.1 indefinitely. 3.2 is the subscription version
the links etc. were sent out in an email. if you need those again, drop me a line and i can try to dig up that email
Brian
My license shows 3 available, subscription ended, $149 & $59/year to continue. My version 3.2 works but updates don't work!!! Looks like they've joined the dark side of the force (AKA $$$).
Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Brian Valente < bvalente@...> To: Losmandy_users < [email protected]> Sent: Wed, Oct 7, 2020 02:28 PM Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Astronomy software & capture software Yes i did.?
i read through that pretty thoroughly because i have 6 licenses for SGP (they sell it in 3 packs and i needed 4 so that's where i ended up)
I decided to give it a year and see what $50+/year subscription gets me. if they do significant improvements that are meaningful to me, i'll continue that.?
If not, i'll just stop and stick with the version i have.? Fortunately they allow you to continue to use the version you have without a subscription, so it seems reasonable
BrianDid you get the same notice from SGP that they've gone to yearly fee service?
Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Brian Valente < bvalente@...> To: Losmandy_users < [email protected]> Sent: Wed, Oct 7, 2020 02:22 PM Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Astronomy software & capture software Hi again Tony
Pretty much all software works great with Losmandy Gemini,?thanks to its excellent ASCOM software program Gemini Telescope.net
For capture software i've?personally used many solutions, including Sequence Generator Pro (my current favorite), NINA, Maxim DL, The Sky X, Sharpcap, ACP, etc. They all work extremely well for me and my Losmandy mounts with Gemini II.
Brian
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 1:51 PM Tony Gabriele via <tgabriele73= [email protected]> wrote: I would like to hear from my fellow Losmandy users as to what they deem the best astronomy software that is most compatible with Gemini 2 to control the telescope, and which capture software is also the most compatible.
-- Brian?
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Re: Astronomy software & capture software
Brian
My license shows 3 available, subscription ended, $149 & $59/year to continue. My version 3.2 works but updates don't work!!! Looks like they've joined the dark side of the force (AKA $$$).
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Brian Valente <bvalente@...> To: Losmandy_users < [email protected]> Sent: Wed, Oct 7, 2020 02:28 PM Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Astronomy software & capture software Yes i did.?
i read through that pretty thoroughly because i have 6 licenses for SGP (they sell it in 3 packs and i needed 4 so that's where i ended up)
I decided to give it a year and see what $50+/year subscription gets me. if they do significant improvements that are meaningful to me, i'll continue that.?
If not, i'll just stop and stick with the version i have.? Fortunately they allow you to continue to use the version you have without a subscription, so it seems reasonable
BrianDid you get the same notice from SGP that they've gone to yearly fee service?
Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Brian Valente < bvalente@...> To: Losmandy_users < [email protected]> Sent: Wed, Oct 7, 2020 02:22 PM Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Astronomy software & capture software Hi again Tony
Pretty much all software works great with Losmandy Gemini,?thanks to its excellent ASCOM software program Gemini Telescope.net
For capture software i've?personally used many solutions, including Sequence Generator Pro (my current favorite), NINA, Maxim DL, The Sky X, Sharpcap, ACP, etc. They all work extremely well for me and my Losmandy mounts with Gemini II.
Brian
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 1:51 PM Tony Gabriele via <tgabriele73= [email protected]> wrote: I would like to hear from my fellow Losmandy users as to what they deem the best astronomy software that is most compatible with Gemini 2 to control the telescope, and which capture software is also the most compatible.
-- Brian?
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Re: Astronomy software & capture software
Yes i did.?
i read through that pretty thoroughly because i have 6 licenses for SGP (they sell it in 3 packs and i needed 4 so that's where i ended up)
I decided to give it a year and see what $50+/year subscription gets me. if they do significant improvements that are meaningful to me, i'll continue that.?
If not, i'll just stop and stick with the version i have.? Fortunately they allow you to continue to use the version you have without a subscription, so it seems reasonable
BrianDid you get the same notice from SGP that they've gone to yearly fee service?
Chuck -----Original Message----- From: Brian Valente < bvalente@...> To: Losmandy_users < [email protected]> Sent: Wed, Oct 7, 2020 02:22 PM Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Astronomy software & capture software Hi again Tony
Pretty much all software works great with Losmandy Gemini,?thanks to its excellent ASCOM software program Gemini Telescope.net
For capture software i've?personally used many solutions, including Sequence Generator Pro (my current favorite), NINA, Maxim DL, The Sky X, Sharpcap, ACP, etc. They all work extremely well for me and my Losmandy mounts with Gemini II.
Brian
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 1:51 PM Tony Gabriele via <tgabriele73= [email protected]> wrote: I would like to hear from my fellow Losmandy users as to what they deem the best astronomy software that is most compatible with Gemini 2 to control the telescope, and which capture software is also the most compatible.
-- Brian?
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Re: Astronomy software & capture software
Brian Did you get the same notice from SGP that they've gone to yearly fee service?
Chuck
-----Original Message----- From: Brian Valente <bvalente@...> To: Losmandy_users < [email protected]> Sent: Wed, Oct 7, 2020 02:22 PM Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Astronomy software & capture software Hi again Tony
Pretty much all software works great with Losmandy Gemini,?thanks to its excellent ASCOM software program Gemini Telescope.net
For capture software i've?personally used many solutions, including Sequence Generator Pro (my current favorite), NINA, Maxim DL, The Sky X, Sharpcap, ACP, etc. They all work extremely well for me and my Losmandy mounts with Gemini II.
Brian
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 1:51 PM Tony Gabriele via <tgabriele73= [email protected]> wrote: I would like to hear from my fellow Losmandy users as to what they deem the best astronomy software that is most compatible with Gemini 2 to control the telescope, and which capture software is also the most compatible.
-- Brian?
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Re: Astronomy software & capture software
Hi again Tony
Pretty much all software works great with Losmandy Gemini,?thanks to its excellent ASCOM software program Gemini Telescope.net
For capture software i've?personally used many solutions, including Sequence Generator Pro (my current favorite), NINA, Maxim DL, The Sky X, Sharpcap, ACP, etc. They all work extremely well for me and my Losmandy mounts with Gemini II.
Brian
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 1:51 PM Tony Gabriele via <tgabriele73= [email protected]> wrote: I would like to hear from my fellow Losmandy users as to what they deem the best astronomy software that is most compatible with Gemini 2 to control the telescope, and which capture software is also the most compatible.
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Re: Astronomy software & capture software
Maxim Dl runs my G11, Titan, and G8 and all cameras and the observatory.
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telescope, and which capture software is also the most compatible.
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Astronomy software & capture software
I would like to hear from my fellow Losmandy users as to what they deem the best astronomy software that is most compatible with Gemini 2 to control the telescope, and which capture software is also the most compatible.
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Re: Planetary software & capture software
Hi Tony
i have done very limited planetary. I used sharpcap and liked it a lot. I also hear a lot of people like Firecapture.
Gemini works with all of them. Planetary is usually a ton of very short exposures (think like video: many tens of frames a second), so tracking is less critical than for long exposure DSO
On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 12:29 PM Tony Gabriele via <tgabriele73= [email protected]> wrote: I would like to hear from my fellow Losmandy users as to what they deem the best planetary software that is most compatible with Gemini 2 to control the telescope, and which capture software is also the most compatible.
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Ditto. My G11G on order and expecting soon.? Been dreaming of this mount for 10+ years!!!
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Hey Stosh,
Welcome to the club!? As you have found there are mounts that are similar in quality and maybe manufacturer's support at much higher price points. There are mounts at similar price points but overall lower in quality and manufacturer's support. But if you are like many of us you bought a Losmandy after finding exactly ZERO mounts with the level of support that owning a Losmandy offers and not just from the mount maker but also from an open community of real world users not afraid to get their hands dirty if need be. With your new mount it is unlikely that you will need to get your hands dirty, maybe a small adjustment after shipping but if you need help we're here for you. So keep us posted and don't hesitate to ask questions.?
Cheers!??
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A loop of Mars taken last Friday in very average seeing, but still some interesting details at times.
Takahashi CN-212 + Baader FFC x3 ~8m FL with ASI462MC (~45000 frames in 3min segments)
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Thanks everyone. ? Called Tanya about the price idiosyncrasies on the new order page, asked her some questions and placed my order for a G11G with the RA extension and some extra counterweights. ?I’ll be a full family member in a few weeks. :)?
For most people, a quality mount is a significant investment and I did a fair share of reading through the CN forums, watching ?YouTube videos and searching through 20+ years of posts on this site, as well as asking questions that the community here happily answered. ?
The community here is one of the reasons I decided a G11 was the best choice for me, if there were forums dedicated to the other mounts in my price range, I could not find them. ?Technically, the Ethernet port was a major selling point for me. ? Being a networking guy, knowing that I can leverage that interface for wired and wireless control without having to depend on finicky USB ports or serial ports that have been old PC tech for 15 years is nice.
I’m sure I’ll have more questions in the coming days. ?Thank you again for your help.
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A loop of Mars taken last Friday in very average seeing, but still some interesting details at times.
Takahashi CN-212 + Baader FFC x3 ~8m FL with ASI462MC (~45000 frames in 3min segments)
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Stosh,
Don't buy exactly what you think you need in counterweight! You will ALWAYS need more than you think!?
Second while possible to hang all weight as far out as possible it is preferable to center as much weight as possible at approximately the same distance from the RA axis as the mass in the saddle.?
For example my 30+ pound 130mm imaging rig sits about 12" from the RA axle so I will put most of the counter weight about 12" from the RA axle.? For the C11 that center of mass is quite a bit further from the RA axle so I place most of the mass roughly centered the same distance but any overage in counterweight gets pushed up the shaft.?
For a visual payload I follow the same rules with a twist. When observing visually I am usually changing eyepieces in and out and most are close enough to not require a weight change. But when swapping 2" eyepieces in for 1.25" this will usually need a slight rebalance. So to make this easier if?possible I try to add the little 7 pounder on the outer end to use as a fine tuning weight as it is easier to move and balance with a smaller weight as it takes larger movements on the shaft.?
Hope this helps!
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?
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Hi Chip
Oh yes I know that, those were the before pictures, I re-greased everything with superlube and put just a small layer this time.
Btw i just noticed is my setting circle upside down? :D
Guilherme
Guilherme Vênere,
Not only is the grease drying out but that is just WAY TO MUCH GREASE! The clutches must have had grease on them and slipping too.?
I'm sure the mount will operate much better once cleaned up and lubed correctly. Keep us posted.
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Of course if you get the dedicated Losmandy adapter you can always just tell your observing friends they can only use your PM if they have a Losmandy mount and to buy one. Hmm, maybe that's a better way to go LOL!
i like the way you're thinking there Chip! ;)
I personally have 2 Losmandys, and i test a lot of other ones, so the dedicated adapter to me is much faster and easier to use. But I'm an unusual case :)
Stosh,
Don't use the mount specific PoleMaster camera adapter, they are only good for the one mount. Buy an ADM universal PoleMaster mount and clamp it to your top or bottom dovetail. Works with any scope with a D or V dovetail. This allows you to PA other mounts with the same PoleMaster camera! This is way more flexible and you will not need to buy more adapters to share with friends and convert non-PoleMaster users.?
Of course if you get the dedicated Losmandy adapter you can always just tell your observing friends they can only use your PM if they have a Losmandy mount and to buy one. Hmm, maybe that's a better way to go LOL!
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?
? ?Astropheric Weather Forecast - South Pasadena, CA?
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Stosh,
Don't use the mount specific PoleMaster camera adapter, they are only good for the one mount. Buy an ADM universal PoleMaster mount and clamp it to your top or bottom dovetail. Works with any scope with a D or V dovetail. This allows you to PA other mounts with the same PoleMaster camera! This is way more flexible and you will not need to buy more adapters to share with friends and convert non-PoleMaster users.?
Of course if you get the dedicated Losmandy adapter you can always just tell your observing friends they can only use your PM if they have a Losmandy mount and to buy one. Hmm, maybe that's a better way to go LOL!
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Chip Louie Chief Daydreamer Imagination Hardware?
? ?Astropheric Weather Forecast - South Pasadena, CA?
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Michael, Les,
Thanks for your advices. I conclude that it is enough to use a cable DB9 (side camera) - RJ11 (side autoguider port mount). In this case the figures of the "Application Note Relay Box" will be:
El mar., 6 oct. 2020 a las 2:32, Les Niles (< les@...>) escribió: The??is also useful. Starting on p. 40 it discusses connecting a camera to the auto guider port, and specifically references the ST-8 camera. ?
With the round DIN connectors, you should have the newer version of the Gemini 1.? It has TTL-level inputs (open collector to ground) for guiding so you don’t need the relay box.? See section 4.2.4 on p. 42 of the Gemini 1 manual.? It even discusses the SBIG cable needed to connect the camera, though it’s easy to make one yourself.
On 5 Oct 2020, at 16:56, Luis Barneo < lbarneo@...> wrote:
My mount is a Losmandy G11, Gemini 1 level 4, with servomotors 6 pin DIN connectors.?Recently I got a second hand ST-8XE USB SBIG camera attached to CFW8A filter wheel with many accesories,?The problem is that I'm confused how to connect the camera-filter wheel to the autoguider port of Losmandy.?I think that? my mount does not require the "relay adapter box"?(page 42 Gemini User Manual? 2006: 4.2.4 Connecting an Autoguider to a new Gemini (with DIN connectors): "...The SBIG relay box can be used , but is not necessary..."
But the "Application Note Relay Adadter Box"? ()? recommend the use of realy box with all Losmandy mounts even with the Gemini GOTO electronics (pag 1), and in the page 3 clarify (?) when it is no necessary to use the Realy Adadter Box if:
1. You are using the camera with LX-200 telescopes.
2. Your telescope/drive corrector uses "Open Collector to Ground" inputs for guiding.
3. You are using a Losmandy mount running both the camera and telescope? off the 110V AC wall transformers where the camera and drive corrector do not share a common ground.
I'm a layman in electronics. Someone can help me? Thanks
Luis
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