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Re: Losmandy_users group File section is getting full
On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 06:03 PM, Sonny Edmonds wrote:
Thank You. How can I help?Links are OK, files or photos in those two sections, as well as message attachments is what counts. |
Re: Losmandy_users group File section is getting full
Most of the space used is in the photos section, about 500MB. Unfortunately, I had to upload photos manually from Yahoo, so most are under my name, even though they don¡¯t belong to me. If there are large files you don¡¯t need or a photo album that¡¯s old, let me know and I¡¯ll delete them. Anything you uploaded that you don¡¯t need in the Files section, please delete.?
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Re: Losmandy_users group File section is getting full
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Paul - Good to hear from you.
I got the same email in another group (supermtnastro). Our problem was so many attachments, which I decided to just let them age them off.
Guess it depends on your mix of uploaded vs attached photos.
Regards,
Bill Shaheen
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Re: Is PEC maintained regardless of shut down process?
My bad, i should not dash off answers while driving, they tend to be too short.? if the Gemini saved index only when it was parked, we'd all be needing to re-do PEC constantly.? If you lose power and reset the CWD position, you will lose sync on your model for sure, but you can warm start and sync to regain that (or just cold start and rebuild your model) On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 2:30 PM Paul Kanevsky <yh@...> wrote: Anthony, --
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Re: Is PEC maintained regardless of shut down process?
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Brian is correct. Gemini remembers the worm index position, even it loses power. PEC programming is not lost. You don't need to stop the motors or park the mount to preserve PEC.? Regards, ? ?-Paul On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 05:16 PM, Anthony Q wrote:
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Re: Is PEC maintained regardless of shut down process?
Michael- I think if you return the mount to "Park at home", the motor stops turning. (At least I am pretty sure of this because I think I've noticed that I cannot hear it.) I can definitely see how a loss of power, or shutting it off without returning to park, and then "resetting" it to home when restarting it could cause it to lose its place, which is why I asked. Between you and Brian, I still do not have a definitive answer, however... |
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Re: Is PEC maintained regardless of shut down process?
Welllllll.... Here's the thing:.? The PEC is a kind of reverse recording of the drive system.? That is, the worm of course, but also things that move at exactly the worm rotation time and rate: I think of the Oldham coupler and the gearbox drive gear.? In a tucked motor system you'd add the two transfer gears that "fold" the gearbox motion. If you lose power, such that the Gemini dies not know where the worm rotation angle, then your PEC curve will start at the wrong rotation point (the phase is lost).? Then just putting the mount at CWD will not recover that position. You have just as good a chance of doubling your PE as of making it near zero.?? So if you've lost your phase info, you might as well throw out the old PEC and do a new one. Is there a solution??? If you had a sensor that told you a mark of the worm position, you could always find it again.? ?In a car, the flywheel had a marker for "TDC" top dead center...we used this when setting the distributor rotation to time the car spark plug firing time (long ago before computerized cars!). You'd need a "TDC" mark on your worm, that you could similarly use.?? You could paint on a TDZ mark indicator on the worm, and on the mounting to match them up, if you could see the worm (the older drives without folded type assembly you could take off a cover and see the worm). (This is such a nice idea, I think I'll try that myself!... ) Some modern mounts advertise "permanent PEC" and they must have a sensor for that worm position detection.?? Strangely, I saw an ad recently for Losmandy mounts that said "Permanent PEC" but I don't think that is true unless you have an RA shaft encoder in your system.? I think just an energetic marketing person got carried away.? U.S. Presidential material no doubt!!!?? Michael On Thu, Jan 30, 2020, 1:42 PM Brian Valente <bvalente@...> wrote:
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Re: Is PEC maintained regardless of shut down process?
Yes. The only way to mess up PEC is if you adjust the worms or other mechanical changes. On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 1:29 PM Anthony Q <anthonyquintile4@...> wrote: That should have read, "Will PEC be maintained correctly if...) --
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Re: Is PEC maintained regardless of shut down process?
Shouldn¡¯t make any difference re pec On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 1:24 PM Anthony Q <anthonyquintile4@...> wrote:
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Re: Losmandy GM9 Tucked Motor Upgrade
Sonny Edmonds
I've actually been leaving my mount (The defunct AVX) set up, and when I mount my imaging rig as a unit to the mounts clamp, I can then check my PA through my Main telescope.
But the tripod under it is as close to absolutely level as I can get it, so it begins at as close as I can to 90¡ã to the Earths Axis. Then everything goes up from there. So the axis of the mount begins as close to 90¡ã as I can get it. I use a digital level, and go for 0.0 ¡ã (0.1¡ã is unacceptable to me.) That is just the tripod. And yes, I know it may not be necessary to most, but it is to me. I adjust the head every so slightly to compensate for any changes due to thermal or vibration changes that occur from day to day, because I know there are, and forge ahead into alignment. Normally it only needed very minor Altitude tweaks, more pressure changes, than actual adjusting. So... to my way of thinking, if the PoleMaster was also under-mounted to the D bar, it would be aligned, and wired to my USB along with everything else. And in my anal ways, parallel with all above it every time the Bar and Clamp find each other. Because every time the Bar and Clamp meet they are going to be slightly off. That way all the lenses are fairly aimed precisely as one unit. And all come in the house during the rest periods between sessions. I am an odd duck, I tend to look at the mount through mechanic and machinists eyes. So everything above my bar is solidly joined and painstakingly aligned to work together. I've come to observe what others do and accept, then apply and perfect it to my ways of use. While others were swearing by their Telrads as their primary aiming device, I adapted a Red Dot gun site to mine. Easily adjusted to be dead centered with the others. It is as close as possible to my Guide Scopes aim, which is my secondary aiming device. And lastly my guide scope is as closely aimed as possible to my Main Optical Tube. So all three are very closely aimed. I like using Polaris for initial adjustments and checks. Even though all three are very close (Red Dot, Guide Scopes crosshairs, and finally the MOT's cross hairs in my camera program) I never expect my object to be precisely centered. Certainly not as precisely as I require for my results. Because I'm in it for Astrophotography, as many are. But that has always been my goal. So I tend to be an Odd Duck about it. And to be as persnickety as Scott Losmandy is about fit and finish and precision. But my demand for hitting as close to the mark as possible has always been my goal. No matter what I'm tinkering with. Scott Losmandy might like some of my ideas, but he has probably already thought of them anyway. Because he already has over 44 years perfecting his mounts. But I'd like to meet and chat with him if I can. I already know he and I see eye to eye about how Astrophotography should be done. Long?exposure AP was a necessity for me for about a year and a half, and is still a first love for me. So I'd like to hear his thoughts on it. My longest single shot long exposure image was 5400 seconds (90 minutes), with my now defunct Orion G3 color camera. I'm trying to dig up the old post about it. Like Arney, "I vill be bach!" |
Re: Adjusting the Polar Alignment Scope
Nothing wrong with you... all GEM mounts have this polar scope shift issue.?? When you get your polar scope re-aligned, mark the rotation position of the polar scope in it's RA mounting tube, so you can get back to where you aligned it.? Even better, if possible, don't remove it.? Just rotate the RA axis to the right Polaris hour angle image (it is 180 degrees off from a sky chart view, due to the polar scope optics.) The RA tubes are not perfect up the axis...and the polar scope is also slightly loose as it has to be to install it.? (That's why the video camera polar alignment approach has benefits...as you rotate the RA axis, it can determine the real center of rotation.) Best, Michael On Wed, Jan 29, 2020, 2:58 PM Nels Johansen via Groups.Io <nhbj6=[email protected]> wrote: I have finally got it centered, it isn't that easy to do especially to remember which is up and down.? One frustration I have is when I remove the polar scope to and reinstall it doesn't remain centered. What am I doing wrong or is it the machining of the RA and clutch knob? |
Re: Adjusting the Polar Alignment Scope
Why would you remove it? Just get it centered and leave it in place. No polar scope will get you really polar aligned, just good enough to do visual reliably. Another thing to know is your initial GOTOs will also not be very good without a good PA. This is adjusted once you do an initial alignment using the Gemini alignment routine but it will be off initially.? ?
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Re: Losmandy GM9 Tucked Motor Upgrade
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýSonny. Just my two cents here but i use my polemaster mounted to the front finder scope shoe on my takahashi e180 after everything is setup. ?Mi250 mount. All my astro is imaging and done portable at remote sites. It has dropped my polar alignment to just a few minutes as soon as several stars are visible in the app. Model building for the goto now gets my time focus?. Cheers Loren On Jan 29, 2020, at 15:06, Sonny Edmonds <sonnyedmonds@...> wrote:
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