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Re: Using ST-4 output from ZWO camera with 492 drive
I don't have a 492 but I repair Gemini 1 & 2's, Cameras.....and everything Astro put in front of me.....
All modern ST4 outputs are either opto-coupled out or transistor TTL "low" signals.?? Aka...the signal is a "low level" the opposite to a "high" (high= +5V).? So, ST4 these days outputs is "a signal low".?? The 492 Drive Hand-controller buttons switch ground (or "low") out the appropriate pin to command movement.? See attached diagram. Thus "yes" you can use your ZWO camera as an ST4 for the 492 drive as the HC and ST4 signals are essentially the same.? You will need that parallels these ZWO ST4 signals with the HC signals and your ST4 guiding will be limited to what G/S rate you have set in the system...the top LEDs:.3x; .5x; 2x....etc? But it should work fine at .5X.? Lastly you need to pay attention to the wiring of your ST4 to HC adapter cable to ensure it goes to the correct positions wrt to the HC buttons.? If you miss-wire it...don't fret it won't cause damage....just work the wrong way!? may help a little more in this. Cheers tell us how you get on. ? -- Brendan |
Re: Using ST-4 output from ZWO camera with 492 drive
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýYup I use a asi 120mc for guiding with my 492 using PHD2. ?Best move since st4 camera.Sent from my iDork On Sep 1, 2019, at 5:58 PM, John Bridgman <john.bridgman@...> wrote:
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Using ST-4 output from ZWO camera with 492 drive
Hi all,
I have a ~18 year old G11 with 492 drive. Used to guide it with an ST-237 + relay box, but (a) the relay box disappeared at some point and (b) I no longer have a computer old enough to run the 237, although I am trying to change that. I do have a ZWO ASI290MC and wanted to try guiding with that. It's a one-shot colour cam which I know is not ideal for guiding but if it works OK I would pick up an ASI120 mini for guiding and use the 290 for imaging. According to ZWO all the ST-4 outputs are opto-isolated so it seems like this should all be safe to hook up - I'm just surprised that I haven't found a single example anywhere of anyone using ST-4 from a ZWO camera with a Losmandy non-Gemini mount. I haven't seen anyone saying it *won't* work, just... nothing.? Is anyone using this combination (ZWO ST-4 output with 492 drive) successfully, and if not does anyone see any big risk of damage ? I can live with it not working but with 492-based mounts out of production and 492 electronics out of stock I'm a bit more wary than usual.? Thanks, John |
Repairing Stripped Motor Mounting Threads on the Losmandy Gearbox
JohnS
Recently, I found that the servo motor on my GM811G declination head was loose - that I can move it by hand against its gearbox.? Then I found?that I couldn't tighten the motor's 4-40 cap head mounting screw snugly anymore.? The threads in the screw hole had become worn.? Being made of?plastic, I suppose they wear with repeated removal and adjustment of the motor despite care not to over-tightening the cap screws.
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I read about the McLennan replacement but decided there was too much work involved.? Besides, my mount is just two years old and the gears?inside should still be okay.
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So I decided to see about repairing the stripped screw threads.? I considered two options: 1) completely fill the screw hole with epoxy then tap?new 4-40 threads, or 2) partially fill the screw hole with epoxy, and quickly insert the 4-40 cap screw, then remove the cap screw after the?epoxy has set by undoing the screw thus leaving threads behind.
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I decided to go with the second option but the challenge was how to be able to remove the cap screw after the epoxy has set.? One solution I?found was to coat the cap screw thread with Vaseline petroleum jelly (I read cooking oil could also work).? So here is what I did.
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1.? Enlarge the screw hole to allow enough epoxy to line the walls of the hole and be able to form threads along it.? The hole can only be?enlarged very slightly because the screw hole is actually a U-shaped cavity inside the gearbox casing separating the screw threads from the area?where the gears are, and the walls of this cavity must not be breached when enlarging the screw hole.
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I have attached a drawing (not to scale) with a cut-away showing approximately the original screw hole (yellow shaded area), and the enlarged?hole (red shaded area).
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2.? Coat one of the 4-40 cap screw completely with Vaseline petroleum jelly, threads and cap head, then melt the petroleum jelly (for example?with a hair dryer) to make the petroleum jelly more fluid and flow into the screw threads.? Then shake off the excess so only a thin film of the?liquid coats the threads.
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3.? I used Gorilla brand "GorillaWeld" epoxy that is sold in two tubes (hardener and resin) and is black in colour when mixed, instead of the?clear epoxy in an injection tube.? The epoxy starts to cure in 10 minutes so the steps described below must be done quickly.
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4.? If the gearbox's other mounting screw hole is still good, thread the other cap screw in.? This can serve as a guide to how deeply the screw?should go into the screw hole.
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5.? Mix thoroughly a pea-sized amount each of epoxy hardener and resin.
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6.? Apply an amount of epoxy into the screw hole and, using a toothpick or similar implement, spread the epoxy into the hole to coat the bottom?and sides of the hole.
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7.? Apply a thin coat of epoxy to the cap screw which is coated with petroleum jelly.
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8.? Insert the cap screw coated with epoxy into the screw hole using the other screw as guide to know how far this screw should go in.? Ensure?that this screw is centred into the hole and is upright like the other screw.? If excess epoxy is squeezed out of the hole, don't clean it up?at this stage.? Just ensure the cap head and the Allen key hole is free of epoxy to ease the screw's removal after the epoxy has set.
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9.? Allow the epoxy to set, about 10 minutes.? Then using an Allen key, carefully undo the screw.? The petroleum jelly should keep the epoxy?from binding firmly to the screw thread.? The screw should turn with little pressure on the Allen key.? Remove the screw completely and?allow the epoxy to completely cure overnight.
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10.? Using a box cutter or thin blade, shave off excess epoxy so the screw hole is flush with the gearbox casing.
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11.? Install the motor and tighten the 4-40 cap screws only enough so the motor is snug on the gearbox.
I hope this helps. JohnS ?
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Re: New Losmandy Owner
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýWelcome aboard Rick ? G11 is a great mount, and there¡¯s lots of great people here to answer any questions you may have ? Thanks ? Brian ? portfolio https://www.brianvalentephotography.com/ ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Richard Paul via Groups.Io ? All,? |
New Losmandy Owner
All,?
Joined this group a while back when I was trying to decide on my next mount. You¡¯ve helped me decide on getting a G11.? I have started ordering it ¡°in reverse¡±. Getting all the small stuff first (knobs, power supply, etc). Will order the G11 next month.? -- Rick Paul Tucson, AZ |
Re: Trouble after installing internal battery
Thanks.? Yes, I think I just need to start anew and tweak some things.? 9 times out of 10, at least in my case, it turns out to be "operator error". Jim On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 1:42 PM John Kmetz via Groups.Io <jjkmetz61=[email protected]> wrote: Jim, |
Re: Trouble after installing internal battery
Jim,
After installing a new battery you must do a Cold Start from the Hand Controller. The make sure time and location are correct. You may need to redo your pointing model. Just went through this myself. You can reload all your other particulars from the Gemini app. Regards, John |
Re: Trouble after installing internal battery
Thanks.? I'll give it a shot. J. On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 6:53 AM David C. Partridge <david.partridge@...> wrote:
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Re: Trouble after installing internal battery
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýSet to UTC and set local offset IIRC ? D. ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Ribble ? One thing I have NOT tried yet is to set everything to UTC time with a zero offset.? I will do that.? Fingers crossed.? (I had it set to local time with a -04 offset for EDT.) ? On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:06 AM Teddy Wang via Groups.Io <tedcwang=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: Trouble after installing internal battery
One thing I have NOT tried yet is to set everything to UTC time with a zero offset.? I will do that.? Fingers crossed.? (I had it set to local time with a -04 offset for EDT.) On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:06 AM Teddy Wang via Groups.Io <tedcwang=[email protected]> wrote: Maybe check the scope type from the HC?? Make sure you select the G11 as your mount type.? |
Re: Trouble after installing internal battery
Yep, G11 is set as well.? I'm stumped (although it's likely something simple.) On Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 12:06 AM Teddy Wang via Groups.Io <tedcwang=[email protected]> wrote: Maybe check the scope type from the HC?? Make sure you select the G11 as your mount type.? |
Trouble after installing internal battery
Hi guys,?
I installed a new internal battery in my G11/Gemini2 mini, set the clock (-04 EDT?offset for Georgia USA), site location is correct, and all operations of the mount work EXCEPT it will not slew even close to the target now.? It's probably 45 degrees off of any selected target.? (Before the new battery, everything was operating spot-on.)? ?Undoubtedly I've not set something correctly.? Any suggestions?? Many thanks in advance. Jim R. |
Re: Does This Group Have A Buy/Sell Section?
Ken...we have no buy and sell section and probably won't ever be due to possibility of fraud and bad transactions.? I mean I'm not the site owner but have been around long enough to guess....Yes the Astro community is generally great and trustworthy people but I've seen people join other "buy/sell Astro forums" to de-fraud others.?? I don't think its wrong to ask in this forum (this is generally a help forum) as long as its not too intrusive and of course the group cannot be responsible for any transactions.
Astromart is probably the best place to sell but I understand Losmandy users congregate here, so this is a receptive place. Good luck -- Brendan |
Does This Group Have A Buy/Sell Section?
Hello Losmandy Users,
I own a GM-8 That is about 13 years old.? I have it advertised on Astromart right now for $700.? It was purchased before Gemini 2. It has been sitting in a bedroom closet for 4 years.? I was diagnosed with age-related macular degeneration, so astronomy is a real trial.? I'm hoping to sell it locally (Washington State) because packing, shipping, and insurance add about $90 to the cost.? If anyone is interested go to Astromart or e-mail me for pics and more info. Thanks Ken Veto |
Re: G11 Tripod Question
Ah good pount It depends on which part you're sitting talking about If it's the tripod without the mount connector that's open like Michael said But you do need the connector part on to of it to mount the gem and that pay is closed On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 12:02 PM Michael Herman <mherman346@...> wrote:
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Re: G11 Tripod Question
My tripods are open at the bottom. There are 3 large diameter leg tubes that are welded to a larger diameter vertical tube.?? When I get home, I'll photograph it and send you a picture and get the tube sizes. Clearly, there were several versions of the Losmandy tripods. Some were very strong, though not portable. Some were foldable.? There might be several answers to your question depending on version.?? Best, Michael On Tue, Aug 27, 2019, 11:21 AM Pete Wilkinson <pete.sigma957@...> wrote: OK thanks, will have to have a rethink of my project then :) |