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Re: Eastside Heavy Rule - How to Practically Apply Query


 

Why mess with an eyepiece at all. Just use your camera to begin with. I use a G11 (Gemini1) with a 10" SCT and 999 times out of a 1000 the object is in the FOV when I do a "goto". The FOV for my combo is 14x20 arcmin and it works great for the past 18 years. I did do what you do the first year I did AP but quickly decided it as a waste of time.

Stu


On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 12:51 PM Derek C Breit <breit_ideas@...> wrote:

Yes..

Yes, sort of.. Being a (former) Carpenter, I use a tape measure and measure between the Toe Saver Washer on the end of the counterweight shaft and the bottom edge of the lower weight.. *but* I only do this before initial startup when I am finding the ¡°It balances here¡± and ¡°I need to move the weight a half an inch here¡±.. Then I put it back balanced, power up, and ¡°do my thing¡±.. For me, that involves an eyepiece, a GOTO a bright star or planet, switch to a high power eyepiece, center.. Then I switch to the camera, adjust the weight slightly, center the target, and synch.. All this occurs before Sunset and before you can see any stars (by looking up at the sky).. (To do this, you need to know exactly where the focus point of your eyepieces are, as the contrast of a target in a bright sky is quite low..).. Then I wait or do other setup things until it is actually dark..

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Once it¡¯s dark, if I switch sides of the pier, I just move the weight ¡°by feel¡±.. i.e. one hand feels the counterweight shaft and edge of the weight while the other loosens the bolt holding the weight and I ¡°feel¡± how much the weight moves, tighten the bolt, and carry on..

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It¡¯s not an exact science and it depends on the payload.. My G11 is only carrying about 30 pounds so *for me* it doesn¡¯t matter if it is ¡°barely¡± or ¡°a lot¡± East Heavy.. My Goal is ¡°just enough¡± so the drive wont be able to ¡°flop¡± to the other side of the gear tooth.. With a heavy payload ¨C like when I get around to mounting my 12¡± SCT ¨C I will be *much* more exact.. When I do this, I will make two sticks or rods that can go between the weight and the toe saver so I can accurately adjust with no light..

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YMMV, but it works for me and my tracking is pretty good..

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Derek

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Subject: Re: [Losmandy_users_io] Eastside Heavy Rule - How to Practically Apply Query

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On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 10:54 AM, Derek C Breit wrote:

I move the lower counterweight up or down the shaft depending on which side of the mount things are.. *AND* I find where these points are ¨C before ever turning on the mount ¨C during initial balancing..

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Doesn¡¯t take much offset from balanced, just ¡°some¡±..

Derek

Thanks very much for replying and explaining your approach to this topic. Just checking I understand correctly - So when the counterweight shaft is on the eastside you slide the lower weight a little down the shaft from it's 'correctly balanced' position and when the scope is on the eastside you slide the lower weight up the shaft a little way beyond it's 'correctly balanced' position. Presumably you use tape or something to mark the shaft for each position?

Is this method which most use?

Many thanks

Terry [uk]

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