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Hi,

I noticed that many have had a few problems with MoD UK. I thought
that a few hints or tips may help when dealing with them.
The key issue that you will need to show MoD is that you are the
legal next of kin (NOK). If you are not then you need to have
written authority from the NOK. I know that it can be an issue if
you don't always have the details. However, my advise is to take the
standing that unless you know a closer relative that is alive then
you probably are the NOK.

You will have to sign an MoD Form 1000 Kinship form stating your
relationship and send in copies of proff of that relationship i.e.
marriage, birth, death certificates.

My letter enquiries were taking 10 days to turn round within UK.

Here are some details from thier web site:
(I have amended them slightly since the original is for all
applicants not only those wishing to access the Polish section)

Polish Records

Royal Navy and Army:

Army Personnel Centre
Polish Correspondence Section
Government Buildings
Bourne Avenue
Hayes
Middlesex
UB3 1RS

Email: defencerecords.hayes@...

Royal Air Force:
PMA(Sec)1b
Building 248A
RAF Innsworth
Gloucester
GL3 1EZ

(No web site or email address given)

Requests For Service Records

FAQs
Q. I am a former member of the Armed Forces. Can I obtain
information from my service record?

A. Yes, please write to the relevant record office listed on the
service records page. You will need to provide some form of ID. This
can be a copy of a recent bill, driving license or passport. (See
above address)

Q. I am the widow/widower or legal next of kin of an ex-serviceman.
Can I obtain information held on my spouses/parents/relatives
service record?

A. Yes, however you will need to provide proof of death and kinship.
Please write to the relevant record office listed on the service
records page. (See above address)

Q. I am not the widow/widower or legal next of kin of an ex-service
person. Can I obtain information about the ex-service person held on
service records?

A. Only if you can obtain a letter of consent from either the person
the record belongs to or, if that person is deceased from the
widow/widower or legal next of kin. Once you have obtained the
letter of consent, please write to the relevant record office listed
on the service records page. (See above address)

Q. What other information is required by the record offices to
access a service record?

A. This varies slightly depending on whether the person was in the
Royal Navy, Army or Royal Air Force. Please refer to the information
held on the service records page.

Q. Can I request a complete copy of my service record?

A. Yes, please write to the relevant record office listed on the
service records page.

Q. Will I have to pay?

A. Only if your request is for genealogical/family tree reasons.

Q. Why are requests for information held on service records made?

A. The reasons for requests are varied. When you write to the
records offices, inform them of the reason why you are making the
request. This will assist them in supplying the correct information.
Some of the more common reasons for requests are:
? Proof of service for joining military associations or
ex-services
organisations.
? Proof of service to enable welfare assistance from ex-service
organisations.
? Proof of occupancy of Married Quarters for local councils.
? Researching family trees or history.
? Information held on service medical records.

Q. I need information about a veteran who was in the services in the
early 1920's or before. Where do I find it?

A. Service records that reach a certain age, are archived at the
Public Records Office (PRO). Generally service records dating from
the early 1920's, or before, are held at the PRO however the date
varies according to which service the person was in. Please read the
information held on the Service Records page.

Hope this is of some use.

PS. Doea anyone have a similar rundown for the Sikorski Institute in
London UK?

Stephen
This is very helpful - thank you.

One point, MOD does not reply to e-mails - probably their e-mail address is obsolete.

As for SI, they are not currently in the information access business like MOD is. ?Perhaps in the future?

Stefan WIsniowski

--Stefan and group,
I rang the MOD today about an enquiry and they have been located to
new offices.
The new address is:
APC Polish Enquiries.
Building 28B
RAF Northolt.
Westend Rd.
Ruislip.
Middlesex.
England.
HA4 6NG

New Tel No 0208 8338603

Any enquiries should now be addressed to there. They are not on E-
mail yet as they only moved last week, but they are hopeful that it
will soon be available.
Regards
Mark

- In Kresy-Siberia@..., Stefan Wisniowski
<swisniowski@p...> wrote:

Stephen
This is very helpful - thank you.

One point, MOD does not reply to e-mails - probably their e-mail

address is

obsolete.

As for SI, they are not currently in the information access

business like

MOD is. Perhaps in the future?

Stefan WIsniowski

From: "stephenwierzbicki" <sw007c8133@b...>
[...]
Email: defencerecords.hayes@g...
[...]
PS. Doea anyone have a similar rundown for the Sikorski Institute in
London UK?

Thank you so much for the update -- I am so anxious to begin uncovering my
father's history. I truly at the very beginning trying to identify my dad's
starting starting point in Poland.
Joy Wosko-Peppelman

Hi Stefan,

I must apologise for giving the wrong address to the
group! Good job Bob was paying attention!

I understand that all Govt/MoD departments in UK have
a charter to answer the publics requests promptly and
communicate effectively. Moving base and not updating
websites etc does not sound to me as if they are on
top of this charter. I might just see if I can make
that point with them and see if they will update the
web site, place the MoD form 1000 on line for down
loading and accept email requests if only to give
yes/no answers. Or at least find out if it is in the
pipeline. It would save them time and money. The
objection might be that they want to register and
allocate a reference number first. However, that just
requires a flip in the process to change and makes
them more accessable to the general public.
It seems that they are moving from Nissan huts near
Millhill to an RAF base down the road at North Holt. I
suspect a few Poles have flow Spitfires and Hurricanes
out of that airfield in its time. Hopefully
communications can be improved on such a large base.
Need to find a friendly RAF Officer to see if he can
help out!

In your view do you think that the Sikorski Institute
could be coached round to being more 'user friendly'?
Or is it a lost cause? I am interested in a challenge
and if there was even a small chance of changing their
attitude would be willing to take it on. Of course it
would probably have to be in specific areas rather
than across the board. From your experience what is
the most requested information from the Institute.
Perhaps we could poll it on the board to find out?
Maybe even volunteer to set a website up for them?

Some things never change.... stores are for storing
sir or they would be called sign here and hand outs!
And now it seems archives are for archiving!

Be Interested to know your views on this.

Regards

Stephen

One point, MOD does not reply to e-mails - probably
their e-mail address is
obsolete.

As for SI, they are not currently in the information
access business like
MOD is. Perhaps in the future?

=====
Stephen Wierzbicki



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Hi,

I noticed that many have had a few problems with MoD UK. I thought
that a few hints or tips may help when dealing with them.
The key issue that you will need to show MoD is that you are the
legal next of kin (NOK). If you are not then you need to have
written authority from the NOK. I know that it can be an issue if
you don't always have the details. However, my advise is to take the
standing that unless you know a closer relative that is alive then
you probably are the NOK.

You will have to sign an MoD Form 1000 Kinship form stating your
relationship and send in copies of proff of that relationship i.e.
marriage, birth, death certificates.

My letter enquiries were taking 10 days to turn round within UK.

Here are some details from thier web site:
(I have amended them slightly since the original is for all
applicants not only those wishing to access the Polish section)

Polish Records

Royal Navy and Army:

Army Personnel Centre
Polish Correspondence Section
Government Buildings
Bourne Avenue
Hayes
Middlesex
UB3 1RS

Email: defencerecords.hayes@...

Royal Air Force:
PMA(Sec)1b
Building 248A
RAF Innsworth
Gloucester
GL3 1EZ

(No web site or email address given)

Requests For Service Records

FAQs
Q. I am a former member of the Armed Forces. Can I obtain
information from my service record?
?????
A. Yes, please write to the relevant record office listed on the
service records page. You will need to provide some form of ID. This
can be a copy of a recent bill, driving license or passport. (See
above address)
?????
Q. I am the widow/widower or legal next of kin of an ex-serviceman.
Can I obtain information held on my spouses/parents/relatives
service record?
?????
A. Yes, however you will need to provide proof of death and kinship.
Please write to the relevant record office listed on the service
records page. (See above address)
?????
Q. I am not the widow/widower or legal next of kin of an ex-service
person. Can I obtain information about the ex-service person held on
service records?
?????
A. Only if you can obtain a letter of consent from either the person
the record belongs to or, if that person is deceased from the
widow/widower or legal next of kin. Once you have obtained the
letter of consent, please write to the relevant record office listed
on the service records page. (See above address)
?????
Q. What other information is required by the record offices to
access a service record?
?????
A. This varies slightly depending on whether the person was in the
Royal Navy, Army or Royal Air Force. Please refer to the information
held on the service records page.
?????
Q. Can I request a complete copy of my service record?
?????
A. Yes, please write to the relevant record office listed on the
service records page.
?????
Q. Will I have to pay?
?????
A. Only if your request is for genealogical/family tree reasons.
?????
Q. Why are requests for information held on service records made?
?????
A. The reasons for requests are varied. When you write to the
records offices, inform them of the reason why you are making the
request. This will assist them in supplying the correct information.
Some of the more common reasons for requests are:
Proof of service for joining military associations or
ex-services
organisations.
Proof of service to enable welfare assistance from ex-service
organisations.
Proof of occupancy of Married Quarters for local councils.
Researching family trees or history.
Information held on service medical records.
?????
Q. I need information about a veteran who was in the services in the
early 1920's or before. Where do I find it?
?????
A. Service records that reach a certain age, are archived at the
Public Records Office (PRO). Generally service records dating from
the early 1920's, or before, are held at the PRO however the date
varies according to which service the person was in. Please read the
information held on the Service Records page.

Hope this is of some use.

PS. Doea anyone have a similar rundown for the Sikorski Institute in
London UK?



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