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Welcome Zygmunt Martynowicz
Stefan Wisniowski
Please welcome Zygmunt Martynowicz to the group.
Zyg - great to have you aboard - which part of California are you in? ?(we have a number of active Californian members). Stefan Wisniowski ----------Zygmunt Martynowicz |
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Travel to Ukraine
I am planning a trip to the Ukraine to visit my grandparents
homeland, specifically Khmelnytsky Oblast. I have recently heard that only those with a visa can enter the country and must be invited by a person living in the Ukraine. Is this true? I have heard the wonderful stories from group members who have travelled to Ukraine and I welcome any information you can provide on planning a trip to the Ukraine (best mode of transportation once there, accommodations, host family?, etc.). I will be travelling from Canada to France to meet my distant cousins, then to the Ukraine. Thank you for any information you can provide. Best wishes, Angie |
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Pechora, anyone?
Lloydeen Glowacki
Greetings from California....the state where we proved that the "American
Dream" is still alive and well yesterday when we recalled our Governor and replaced him with Arnold Schwartzenegger! You've all been very helpful with information about Kotlas, Siberia. My husband, with his parents and sister, survived Pechora. (His sister says they were at "Oblast Virkuts Pechora".) I've found Pechora on a map at the AFO site, but so far I have been unable to find anything written about or by others who were there. If anyone knows anything about this camp, I'd be very grateful if you would share it with the group. Thanks to all of you for telling your stories and giving us frighteningly clear insight to a horrific period in history. Many of your families suffered exactly the same specific traumas that my parents-in-law told me about. Does anyone know when the film "A Forgotten Odyssey" will be shown again in the US? Thank you for your help, Terry Glowacki |
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Re: Lesser of two evils!
Lech Lesiak
--- Margaret Dubicki <yenisei44@...> wrote:
--------------------------------- Start Quote My Polish friend, Wladyslaw Labedzki always tell this tale: He had been taken from Poland and forced laboured on a farm in Germany where, actually, he had not a bad time (one of the fortunate ones) End quote My father was sent to work on German farms as well. One of the farmers was brutal, the other treated his forced labourers just like the rest of his family. A local Nazi official showed up during dinner at the second farm, and told the farmer his Polish workers shouldn't be eating withe family. The farmer told him to bugger off, that the Poles worked with the family, so they ate with the family. Czesc, Leszek ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! |
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Re: FW: Welcome Stephen Wierzbicki
Krysia
Hi Stefan,
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I have also requested information (regarding my father) to the MOD. My cousin tried writing first for my dad's War Records but was refused. Had to be next of kin. That was 25 anyway to myself as I recall... When I was going through dad's paperwork I found that he already had a copy so I didn't have to apply. Worth checking through any paperwork you may find I think. They need the request in writing but if you give them a call they can tell you more. Good Luck, Krysia ----- Original Message -----
From: "Stephen Wierzbicki" <stephenwierzbicki@...> To: <Kresy-Siberia@...> Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] FW: Welcome Stephen Wierzbicki Hi Stefan,* *KRESY-SIBERIA GROUP = RESEARCH REMEMBRANCE *Discussion site : * *===== KRESY-SIBERIA GROUP = RESEARCH REMEMBRANCE RECOGNITIONcitizens deported, enslaved and killed by the Soviet Union during World War Two."* Discussion site :* To SUBSCRIBE to the discussion group, send an e-mail*
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Grudziadz Graudenz (Pomorze region) pre 1939
Tomasz Wi?niewski
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýGrudziadz Graudenz (Pomorze region) pre 1939 ?
I just added new photo album
Grudziadz Graudenz (Pomorze region) pre 1939 i added also many maps of the towns (western provinces). Go straight at ?
or browse of main site at
"Alfabet Polski" - Poland Photos & Maps pre-1945 Tomek Wisniewski
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Re: FW: Welcome Stephen Wierzbicki
Hi Stefan,
I have written to MoD records Polish section already and am waiting for a reply. I understand that there is a fee for information unless the request is from NOK? Is that right? Do you happen to know if they deal with requests by email? I have also contacted the Sikorski Institute although I am not sure what extra detailed information I could expect from them. I suspect it will be general history rather than personal history. However, they may have information on the Virtuti Military that I mentioned. I think you are right about the Hoover Institution. My mother noticed on the list a Jan Wierzbicki from Tarnopol. My Grandfather was Jan Wierzbicki and he was born in Tarnopol. Apparently my great Grandmother lived in Tarnopol until she finally went to live with my grandparents in Sambor before the War. Perhaps you could advise me on the best method of contacting the Hoover Institue and how best to request the information from these people. It might seem a funny request but understanding the process of how they work and the retreival methods could speed the whole process up and even help the Institute if it is bombarded with requests. Also where would I look for information on Poles who were arrested and imprisoned by the German forces in Warsaw? This is relevant to my Mother's first husband, also a Pole. Thank you for you help. I may have a better idea of who to look at and what questions to ask when I have drawn up a proper family tree with some proper details on it. Regards Stephen --- Stefan Wisniowski <swisniowski@...> wrote: Hi Stephen* KRESY-SIBERIA GROUP = RESEARCH REMEMBRANCE* Discussion site :* * ===== Stephen Wierzbicki ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger |
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Message from Dr. S. Stiftel
Robert Ambros
I received this reply from Dr. S. Stiftel. I told her about the
email problem and also recommended she obtain a copy of Sarner's book. The email I am receiving messages from is: mlenet03@.... ** Dear Mr. Gary Jucha and Mr. Robert Ambros! I have found indeed the essay of Mr. Sugerman. Thank you very much. I think the gentlemen in the Kresy-Sibiria group may be not aware of many Jewish soldiers who served in Anders army during all the war through,. We do have in our archives documents of some of them and of those who tried to join this army and were rejected by the army authorities. Still, I will be very grateful, if you will find any information on the Jews in Anders Army, - to let me know about it. Thank you for your kindness. My Regards Mrs. Dr. S. Stiftel (Shoshana means Rose in Hebrew. Originally I am Roza). |
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FW: Welcome Stephen Wierzbicki
Stefan Wisniowski
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Thanks for the additional information on your family. Have you already accessed the UK Ministry of Defense records for your father out of Hayes? I warrant that his file would contain some of the documentary evidence you are looking for. In addition, some of the people I listed in my last e-mail may be related, especially those in the former Galicia (e.g., Tarnopol and Stanislawow provinces). It is therefore worth contacting the Hoover Institution and asking them to check for these files. Details on these and other sources are at our webpage at Regards, Stefan Wisniowski ---------- From: "stephenwierzbicki" <stephenwierzbicki@...> |
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Lithuanian Book on film
Sheila GROSSNASS
Dear Kresy-Siberia group
For your further information, this book of Deportation of Lithuanians to Siberia is on a FHL (Mormom) film. The number as far as I know is : 947.5 J7m When I requested this in London, I was told that they could not bring this film to London for some reason or another. However, maybe it could be obtained in the USA? Best wishes Sheila |
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Lithuanian Deportation lists etc.
Sheila GROSSNASS
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For information and advice contact the COPAC Helpdesk at copac@... or read our COPAC is a registered trademark of the Victoria University of Manchester ? Oxford holdings information1941-1952 metu Lietuvos tremtiniai
Note: Many, but not all, documents are available for loan. To try and borrow a document, make an inter-library loan request via a library of which you are a member, eg. your university library. ??Another book by the same author:?Oxford holdings informationLietuvos gyventoju tremimai : 1941, 1945-1952 m. : dokumentu rinkinys / [sudare Eugenijus Grunskis, Vanda Kasauskiene, Henrikas Sadzius ; ats. redaktorius Gediminas Rudis
Note: Many, but not all, documents are available for loan. To try and borrow a document, make an inter-library loan request via a library of which you are a member, eg. your university library. ? |
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Lesser of two evils!
Margaret Dubicki
My Polish friend, Wladyslaw Labedzki always tell this
tale: He had been taken from Poland and forced laboured on a farm in Germany where, actually, he had not a bad time (one of the fortunate ones) Anyway he landed up in England after the war and there he was given two choices: No. l "Did he want "to go down the coal mines" or No. 2 "Go up to Scotland" He did not even know where Scotland was! M. Dubicki ________________________________________________________________________ Want to chat instantly with your online friends? Get the FREE Yahoo! Messenger |
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Kotlas & Lithuania
Sheila GROSSNASS
Thankyou Stefan and another group member who provided the website
. This has given me some very valuable information which I have been seeking for a long time. Now I have some information for you which I hope will help the group. I found out that there is a directory of deportations from Lithuania published by Vilnius Vidaus Reikalu Ministeria 1993 (sorry I don't know how to translate this) called: "1941-1952 Metu Lietuvos Tremtiniai"in which are listed thousands of names of prisoners taken to Siberia. As many Poles fled to Lithuania to escape the Nazis, some of these deportees may well be Polish! The volume which I looked at says 'Pirma Knyga' which might mean Volume 1! In that case there may be more volumes available. I saw this book at the Bodleian Library in Oxford University, England. Thought it might be of interest to the group. Best wishes Sheila Message: 3 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 00:32:55 +1000 From: Stefan Wisniowski <swisniowski@...> Subject: Re: kotlas siberia anyone? Nadia and John, There are some interesting articles on the web about the Kotlas Gulag camps. Visit and go through the links on that page. Stefan Wisniowski |
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JAIL...FOR THE STRUGGLE AGAINST CORUPTION...
kwesolek
JAIL...FOR THE STRUGGLE AGAINST CORUPTION...
During my short work in public administration in ?Polish Banana Republic", I tried to fight coruption - actually fraud concerning state-owned real estates, which were sold to prominent officials for very low prices. It was a controversial law on selling real estates to ?building cooperatives", But in some cases, even this controversial law was broken! One of those cooperatives called ?Debina" took the land for bargain,totally against the law. ?Debina" was created by prominent people from SLD - Polish Democratic Left Aliance, including present Prime Minister Leszek MILLER. (but I must tell that some oficials known as ?right-wing" also were in it...) We reported this to Public Prosecutor who pretended to ?investigate" that case but finally decided that ?although it was not in accordance with law, but the crime was not commited...". SO - 9 hectars of land stolen...but without crime... After some time I had to leave public administration. However I didn't stop my struggle. One of my actions was writing the text ?MILLER LIVES ON STOLEN LAND" on the building of the Prime Minister's Chancellary. Now I have to serve 20 days sentence in prison for my action... I was ?invited" to jail for October 13. My friends and supporters will lead me to prison at 1 pm, Gdansk, ul. Nowe Ogrody 30. Klaudiusz Wesolek |
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Re: last name HERCUN
Razel
Dear Michelle!
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I'll try to help you. When I'll be in the post office I'll ask for phone books. But there are two main problems:
? First:new? phone books include only company names, addresses etc. It is forbidden to show there any personal information (especially names, addresses, phone numbers)because of protection of personal data?act which obliges from about 10 years. And it is really hard to find old enough phone books which were issued before that act came into life.
? Second: Poland is divided into?16 districts(voivodships)?and every voivodship has its own phone book- it is not a big deal to check 16 books for the name you are looking for. As I said I must find books which were issued before that protection law came- and during that?period (till 1998) Poland was divided into 49 voivodships. It is just a little more books to skim;-)
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If I find anything I'll let you know, but try to be patient. I live in Upper Silesia in Katowice(south Poland)?and first I'll check this voivodship for you.
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Take care!
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Gabriel Damaszk.
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moffattm@... wrote:
> I see that we have a few individuals from Poland on our list.? I was Do you Yahoo!? - with improved product search |
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Welcome Henry Ruczewski
Stefan Wisniowski
Please welcome Henry Ruczewski to the group.
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Henry, I believe that we have some members with families from Stara Pawl¨®wka... sounds familiar anyway. Do you know what happened to the rest of your family from there? Stefan Wisniowski ---------- From: henry ruczewski <splixx1@...> |
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Re: last name HERCUN
Barb Kwietniowski
Michelle,
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I am not in Poland but you could try Nazwisko = surname imie = first name Miejscowosc = Place (town, village...) ulica= street szukaj = search wyczysc = clear Barb Kwietniowski Courtice, Ont. Canada ----- Original Message -----
From: <moffattm@...> To: <Kresy-Siberia@...> Sent: Tuesday, October 07, 2003 11:27 AM Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] last name HERCUN I see that we have a few individuals from Poland on our list. I waswondering if they could see if there are any HERCUNS listed in phone *"Alfabet Polski" - Poland Photos & Maps pre-1945 KRESY-SIBERIA GROUP = RESEARCH REMEMBRANCE RECOGNITIONcitizens deported, enslaved and killed by the Soviet Union during World War Two."* Discussion site :* To SUBSCRIBE to the discussion group, send an e-mail*
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