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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England

 

Lenarda
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Thanks for?all the interesting info.??My link to a Map of Niemilja is now unavailable for some reason? .? Hope it's only temporary as my family is listed there.?
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Best regards?
?
Barbara
London, UK
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From: Lenarda Szymczak
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Sent: Tuesday, 30 April 2013, 21:40
Subject: FW: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England
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Barbara
Map of Huta Stara powiat Kostopol is found in map beside powiat Kostopol in Gmina Ludwipol ?? this is next to the Riga Treaty Line of 1921.?? My family comes from the other side in the Zhitomirski Oblast.
Regards,
Lenarda, Australia
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From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Lenarda Szymczak
Sent: Wednesday, 01 May, 2013 6:22 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England
?
?
Hello Barbara
Some links to information about? Huta Stara powiat Kostopol from site Strony O Wolyniu, which is used for recording of information up to 1939 and stops.
Huta Stara? - peoples names in village -
Photos from site - ?
Map -
regards,
Lenarda, Sydney, Australia
?
From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Barbara Alison
Sent: Wednesday, 01 May, 2013 3:03 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England
?
?
Hi Mark T,
?
Thank you for the info regarding the 3 Misiewicz on the Katyn lists.? I was not aware of this, as my grandfather, Felicjan (Feliks) Misiewicz, born in 1898, was killed by the Ukrainian nationalists in 1943 and I know very little about his family background.??As far as I know his brother Michal?was also murdered?with all his family, apart from one son Tadeusz?(now deceased) who survived and?whom I met as he was living in London.? My family lived in a village called Niemilja, gmina Ludwipol, powiat Kostopol, wojewodztwo wolynskie, parafia Huta Stara.? I would be interested to know if anyone else knows of anybody who came from this village, which no longer exists as it was burnt to the ground.
?
Barbara Ryszkowska
London, UK
?
From: Mark <turkiewiczm@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@..." <Kresy-Siberia@...>
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2013, 18:14
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England
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I see 3 Misiewicz on the Katyn lists.
Feliks Misiewicz, born 1888, son of Konstantego -?Charkow
Jan Misiewicz, born 1908, son of Piotra - Katyn
Mieczyslaw Misiewicz, born 1912, son of Leona - Charkow
?
Mark T.Canada
From: Helen Bitner <helen.bitner@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@..." <Kresy-Siberia@...>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:03:15 AM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England
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?Dear group
Please welcome new member Barbara who is also known as Barbara Alison ?songwriter ?(
Web Page:?)
Barbara's ?father's name was Wladyslaw Ryszkowski. He was living in Marcinkance, Nr Grodno, when WW2 broke out.? He was deported to Siberia in February 1940 with his father Mieczyslaw, his mother Waclawa and his two brothers Edmund and Czeslaw. Mieczyslaw ? died of typhoid (tyfus plamisty), but Waclawa with her three sons enlisted with the Polish Army and ?managed to get out of Siberia. ?Wladyslaw and Czeslaw took part in the Normandy Campaign with the Polish 1st Armoured Division, and Edmund took part in the Battle of Monte Cassino with the 2nd Corps.
Barbara's mother Walentyna (nee Misiewicz) came from a village called Niemilja in Wolyn.? Her father Felicjan and two sisters (Maria & Zofia) were murdered by the Ukrainian nationalists. Walentyna ?survived with her mother Florentyna and two younger sisters (Alina & Danuta).? They were deported by the Germans to Austria, then transferred for a short time to Germany, and finally ended up in Italy where Walentyna joined the Polish Army and worked in a military hospital. ?
?
Barbara is now writing about her parents' experiences (based on their narratives) as a legacy to younger members of the family, and ?she hopes that by joining the Kresy-Siberia group she will be able to get some additional information to help me with her writing.
?
Thank you Barbara for your kind donation and I wish you lots of success in your writing.?
Kind regards
Helen Bitner
Colchester UK
?
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] AGAD

 

I thought I had a contact that would do that for me but I didnt get a response.
We did send $2.00 now with a note and hope they will accept it.
Maybe we should have sent more??

The worst case is that I may have to reorder it after making other arrangements with someone in Warsaw.

Bernie

--- In Kresy-Siberia@..., Julian Plowy <jayplowy@...> wrote:

Did you discuss with them just sending them cash. One dollar even if lost
or stolen is not a great loss to test this type of situation?

I have sent cash many times to my family in Poland as much as 3 and 4
hundred dollars and never had a problem.
Another suggestion is to send the cash funds plus a little extra to someone
in our group that lives in that area and have
them handle the transaction in person.

PayPal also does a great job at a relative low cost. It should be an option
for the government to use.

I am sure that there are many other avenues open to handle these type of
transactions until the Polish government sees the light!!

Julek


On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:59 AM, bstar53 <bernard_starzewski@...>wrote:

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This may be a little off topic but it relates to a previous post where I
described the new ARCHIWUM G&#321;?WNE AKT DAWNYCH (AGAD) database of 19th
Century documents from the Kresy (mostly Wolyn) region.

As I related then I was able to locate a database entry for my great great
great grandparent's wedding in 1852.
I went about the process they prescribed for ordering a print of the
document (probably a church ledger page) and received an electronic invoice
for 1,50 zl (about 48 cents US).

Unfortunately the ONLY way they have to pay this "huge" sum is by bank
transfer! - which means at least $20 in initial bank fees and another $35
if you need to have the currency converted first.

In discussing it directly with them by phone - that is it! There is no
other way to pay for it unless you show up personally in Warsaw!
The response we got was that this was the Polish government and it does
not engage in credit card processing.

By comparison Ellis Island uses document reproduction as a major fund
raising tool!
I have been able to obtain my grandmother's ship manifest record from 1913
in full image along with information and a photo of the ship she came on.

Someone needs to lobby the Polish government to change their thinking on
this.
Being able to locate an ancient family document like this is a true
victory for modern technology but for those of us ex-patriot families to
then encounter such foolish bureaucracy is very frustrating.

They could easily fund their efforts by allowing on line credit card
transactions and then charging $10 or even $20 for international orders and
reducing the banker's take to a dollar or two.
I would much rather have my money go to funding this worth while project
than to have it flush into the pockets of some banks.
FW: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England

 

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Barbara

Map of Huta Stara powiat Kostopol is found in map beside powiat Kostopol in Gmina Ludwipol ? this is next to the Riga Treaty Line of 1921.? My family comes from the other side in the Zhitomirski Oblast.

Regards,

Lenarda, Australia

?

From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Lenarda Szymczak
Sent: Wednesday, 01 May, 2013 6:22 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England

?

?

Hello Barbara

Some links to information about? Huta Stara powiat Kostopol from site Strony O Wolyniu, which is used for recording of information up to 1939 and stops.

Huta Stara? - peoples names in village -

Photos from site - ?

Map -

regards,

Lenarda, Sydney, Australia

?

From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Barbara Alison
Sent: Wednesday, 01 May, 2013 3:03 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England

?

?

Hi Mark T,

?

Thank you for the info regarding the 3 Misiewicz on the Katyn lists.? I was not aware of this, as my grandfather, Felicjan (Feliks) Misiewicz, born in 1898, was killed by the Ukrainian nationalists in 1943 and I know very little about his family background.??As far as I know his brother Michal?was also murdered?with all his family, apart from one son Tadeusz?(now deceased) who survived and?whom I met as he was living in London.? My family lived in a village called Niemilja, gmina Ludwipol, powiat Kostopol, wojewodztwo wolynskie, parafia Huta Stara.? I would be interested to know if anyone else knows of anybody who came from this village, which no longer exists as it was burnt to the ground.

?

Barbara Ryszkowska

London, UK

?

From: Mark <turkiewiczm@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@..." <Kresy-Siberia@...>
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2013, 18:14
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England

?

I see 3 Misiewicz on the Katyn lists.

Feliks Misiewicz, born 1888, son of Konstantego -?Charkow

Jan Misiewicz, born 1908, son of Piotra - Katyn

Mieczyslaw Misiewicz, born 1912, son of Leona - Charkow

?

Mark T.Canada

From: Helen Bitner <helen.bitner@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@..." <Kresy-Siberia@...>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:03:15 AM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England

?

?Dear group

Please welcome new member Barbara who is also known as Barbara Alison ?songwriter ?(

Web Page:?)

Barbara's ?father's name was Wladyslaw Ryszkowski. He was living in Marcinkance, Nr Grodno, when WW2 broke out.? He was deported to Siberia in February 1940 with his father Mieczyslaw, his mother Waclawa and his two brothers Edmund and Czeslaw. Mieczyslaw ? died of typhoid (tyfus plamisty), but Waclawa with her three sons enlisted with the Polish Army and ?managed to get out of Siberia. ?Wladyslaw and Czeslaw took part in the Normandy Campaign with the Polish 1st Armoured Division, and Edmund took part in the Battle of Monte Cassino with the 2nd Corps.

Barbara's mother Walentyna (nee Misiewicz) came from a village called Niemilja in Wolyn.? Her father Felicjan and two sisters (Maria & Zofia) were murdered by the Ukrainian nationalists. Walentyna ?survived with her mother Florentyna and two younger sisters (Alina & Danuta).? They were deported by the Germans to Austria, then transferred for a short time to Germany, and finally ended up in Italy where Walentyna joined the Polish Army and worked in a military hospital. ?

?

Barbara is now writing about her parents' experiences (based on their narratives) as a legacy to younger members of the family, and ?she hopes that by joining the Kresy-Siberia group she will be able to get some additional information to help me with her writing.

?

Thank you Barbara for your kind donation and I wish you lots of success in your writing.?

Kind regards

Helen Bitner

Colchester UK

?

?

?
Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England

 

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Hello Barbara

Some links to information about? Huta Stara powiat Kostopol from site Strony O Wolyniu, which is used for recording of information up to 1939 and stops.

Huta Stara? - peoples names in village -

Photos from site - ?

Map -

regards,

Lenarda, Sydney, Australia

?

From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Barbara Alison
Sent: Wednesday, 01 May, 2013 3:03 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England

?

?

Hi Mark T,

?

Thank you for the info regarding the 3 Misiewicz on the Katyn lists.? I was not aware of this, as my grandfather, Felicjan (Feliks) Misiewicz, born in 1898, was killed by the Ukrainian nationalists in 1943 and I know very little about his family background.??As far as I know his brother Michal?was also murdered?with all his family, apart from one son Tadeusz?(now deceased) who survived and?whom I met as he was living in London.? My family lived in a village called Niemilja, gmina Ludwipol, powiat Kostopol, wojewodztwo wolynskie, parafia Huta Stara.? I would be interested to know if anyone else knows of anybody who came from this village, which no longer exists as it was burnt to the ground.

?

Barbara Ryszkowska

London, UK

?

From: Mark <turkiewiczm@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@..." <Kresy-Siberia@...>
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2013, 18:14
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England

?

I see 3 Misiewicz on the Katyn lists.

Feliks Misiewicz, born 1888, son of Konstantego -?Charkow

Jan Misiewicz, born 1908, son of Piotra - Katyn

Mieczyslaw Misiewicz, born 1912, son of Leona - Charkow

?

Mark T.Canada

From: Helen Bitner <helen.bitner@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@..." <Kresy-Siberia@...>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:03:15 AM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England

?

?Dear group

Please welcome new member Barbara who is also known as Barbara Alison ?songwriter ?(

Web Page:?)

Barbara's ?father's name was Wladyslaw Ryszkowski. He was living in Marcinkance, Nr Grodno, when WW2 broke out.? He was deported to Siberia in February 1940 with his father Mieczyslaw, his mother Waclawa and his two brothers Edmund and Czeslaw. Mieczyslaw ? died of typhoid (tyfus plamisty), but Waclawa with her three sons enlisted with the Polish Army and ?managed to get out of Siberia. ?Wladyslaw and Czeslaw took part in the Normandy Campaign with the Polish 1st Armoured Division, and Edmund took part in the Battle of Monte Cassino with the 2nd Corps.

Barbara's mother Walentyna (nee Misiewicz) came from a village called Niemilja in Wolyn.? Her father Felicjan and two sisters (Maria & Zofia) were murdered by the Ukrainian nationalists. Walentyna ?survived with her mother Florentyna and two younger sisters (Alina & Danuta).? They were deported by the Germans to Austria, then transferred for a short time to Germany, and finally ended up in Italy where Walentyna joined the Polish Army and worked in a military hospital. ?

?

Barbara is now writing about her parents' experiences (based on their narratives) as a legacy to younger members of the family, and ?she hopes that by joining the Kresy-Siberia group she will be able to get some additional information to help me with her writing.

?

Thank you Barbara for your kind donation and I wish you lots of success in your writing.?

Kind regards

Helen Bitner

Colchester UK

?

?

?
Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders monument unveiled

 

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This is brilliant news and fitting for a Polish Hero.? Just suppose, imagine that Hitler never turned on Stalin, the fate of the Polish People would be much different and perhaps Stalin would have tried to conquer Hitler and still take Poland.? So in a strange way, Hitler aided the Polish cause by forcing Stalin to release our people.? But most important, our hero has come home and is honoured in his birth place.

Regards,

Lenarda, Australia

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From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of John Halucha
Sent: Tuesday, 30 April, 2013 9:34 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders monument unveiled

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It's puzzling to read that Anders was "captured by the Soviets in February 1940". He wrote that on?Sept. 30, 1939 he walked to Jesionka Stasiowa and was reported by a villager to militiamen and Soviet troops, then driven across Turka to Stary Sambor. Wounds meant some time in hospital for treatment prior to being put into a cell, but he was clearly in Soviet captivity from the end of September 1939.

?

John Halucha

Sault Ste Marie, Canada

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Monument to Gen. Anders unveiled

30.04.2013 07:10

A monument to WW II hero General Wladyslaw Anders has been unveiled in Krosniewice, central Poland, the birthplace of the commander of Polish troops at Monte Cassino.

photo

photo - PAP/Grzegorz Micha?owski

His daughter, Anna Maria, who attended the ceremony, was evidently moved by the occasion.

She spoke of her strong attachment to her father and said that he always had time for her.

“Even though he lived in London, Poland was always the most important for him. He believed that he would be able to return to his homeland,” Anna Maria Anders said.

The ceremony was also attended by local officials and veterans of the Second Polish Corps.

Lieutenant Stanis?aw P?osinski recalled General Anders as a commander who was genuinely interested in the life of each and every of his soldiers.

General Anders, who was born in Krosniewice in 1892, was for many Poles, especially those living in exile, an iconic figure.

He was captured by the Soviets in February 1940. When Hitler turned on Stalin in June 1941, he was released from the Lubyanka prison in Moscow and was later given the task of forming an army from the survivors of the one and a half million Poles who had been captured in 1939 or later deported into the Soviet Union.

General Anders led some 77,000 soldiers accompanied by over 43,000 civilians who had suffered starvation in labour camps and gulags out of the Soviet Union into Persia.

In 1943 the Second Polish Corps under General Anders’ command landed in Italy and in May 1944 suffered great losses in the capture of Monte Cassino.

After the war, the communist government in Poland deprived Anders of Polish citizenship and military rank. They were posthumously reinstated after the collapse of communism in 1989.

General Anders died in London on 12 May 1970, the 26th anniversary of the Battle of Monte Cassino, and was buried, in accordance with his last will, at the Polish War Cemetery at Monte Cassino in Italy.
Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England

 

Hi Mark T,
?
Thank you for the info regarding the 3 Misiewicz on the Katyn lists.? I was not aware of this, as my grandfather, Felicjan (Feliks) Misiewicz, born in 1898, was killed by the Ukrainian nationalists in 1943 and I know very little about his family background.??As far as I know his brother Michal?was also murdered?with all his family, apart from one son Tadeusz?(now deceased) who survived and?whom I met as he was living in London.? My family lived in a village called Niemilja, gmina Ludwipol, powiat Kostopol, wojewodztwo wolynskie, parafia Huta Stara.? I would be interested to know if anyone else knows of anybody who came from this village, which no longer exists as it was burnt to the ground.
?
Barbara Ryszkowska
London, UK

From: Mark
To: "Kresy-Siberia@..."
Sent: Monday, 29 April 2013, 18:14
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England
?
I see 3 Misiewicz on the Katyn lists.
Feliks Misiewicz, born 1888, son of Konstantego -?Charkow
Jan Misiewicz, born 1908, son of Piotra - Katyn
Mieczyslaw Misiewicz, born 1912, son of Leona - Charkow
?
Mark T.Canada
From: Helen Bitner
To: "Kresy-Siberia@..."
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:03:15 AM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England
?
?Dear group
Please welcome new member Barbara who is also known as Barbara Alison ?songwriter ?(
Web Page:?)
Barbara's ?father's name was Wladyslaw Ryszkowski. He was living in Marcinkance, Nr Grodno, when WW2 broke out.? He was deported to Siberia in February 1940 with his father Mieczyslaw, his mother Waclawa and his two brothers Edmund and Czeslaw. Mieczyslaw ? died of typhoid (tyfus plamisty), but Waclawa with her three sons enlisted with the Polish Army and ?managed to get out of Siberia. ?Wladyslaw and Czeslaw took part in the Normandy Campaign with the Polish 1st Armoured Division, and Edmund took part in the Battle of Monte Cassino with the 2nd Corps.
Barbara's mother Walentyna (nee Misiewicz) came from a village called Niemilja in Wolyn.? Her father Felicjan and two sisters (Maria & Zofia) were murdered by the Ukrainian nationalists. Walentyna ?survived with her mother Florentyna and two younger sisters (Alina & Danuta).? They were deported by the Germans to Austria, then transferred for a short time to Germany, and finally ended up in Italy where Walentyna joined the Polish Army and worked in a military hospital. ?
?
Barbara is now writing about her parents' experiences (based on their narratives) as a legacy to younger members of the family, and ?she hopes that by joining the Kresy-Siberia group she will be able to get some additional information to help me with her writing.

Thank you Barbara for your kind donation and I wish you lots of success in your writing.?
Kind regards
Helen Bitner
Colchester UK
?
Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] AGAD

 

Boy!! ?I totally agree with you, but you should try dealing with last year implemented law in Argentina.... a true highway robbery.

Anna D
USA

From: bstar53
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 7:59 AM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] AGAD

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This may be a little off topic but it relates to a previous post where I described the new ARCHIWUM G&#321;?WNE AKT DAWNYCH (AGAD) database of 19th Century documents from the Kresy (mostly Wolyn) region.

As I related then I was able to locate a database entry for my great great great grandparent's wedding in 1852.
I went about the process they prescribed for ordering a print of the document (probably a church ledger page) and received an electronic invoice for 1,50 zl (about 48 cents US).

Unfortunately the ONLY way they have to pay this "huge" sum is by bank transfer! - which means at least $20 in initial bank fees and another $35 if you need to have the currency converted first.

In discussing it directly with them by phone - that is it! There is no other way to pay for it unless you show up personally in Warsaw!
The response we got was that this was the Polish government and it does not engage in credit card processing.

By comparison Ellis Island uses document reproduction as a major fund raising tool!
I have been able to obtain my grandmother's ship manifest record from 1913 in full image along with information and a photo of the ship she came on.

Someone needs to lobby the Polish government to change their thinking on this.
Being able to locate an ancient family document like this is a true victory for modern technology but for those of us ex-patriot families to then encounter such foolish bureaucracy is very frustrating.

They could easily fund their efforts by allowing on line credit card transactions and then charging $10 or even $20 for international orders and reducing the banker's take to a dollar or two.
I would much rather have my money go to funding this worth while project than to have it flush into the pockets of some banks.
Thank you for the warm welcome to the group

 

?Hello Everyone
?
I am very pleased to join your interesting and knowledgeable group, and thank you very much for your warm welcome.??Helen has already posted some information regarding my family background, so?I'll just say that I look forward to interacting with you and hope to work on some of the missing links I have in my family history.? Best regards.?
?
Barbara Ryszkowska
London, UK
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Re: email

 

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Hello Anna,
?
Your membership has not been wiped out, and shows that you receive individual emails.
?
Have you checked your spam folder?? Perhaps the postings have somehow ended up there.
?
Krystyna
Winnipeg, Canada
?
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From: ADefi
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] email
?
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Hello again,
?
I'm sorry but is there a reason as to why there are no email since last thursday?
Perhaps Carol wiped me out.....
?
Thanks
?
Anna D
USA
?
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From: Stefan Wisniowski
To: "Kresy-Siberia@..."
Sent: Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: FW: Polish in Siberia
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] email

 

Thank you Helen, have a great day!
Anna D
USA

From: Helen Bitner
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] email

?
Hi Anna
I have looked at your settings and everything is normal.?
?Kind regards
Helen Bitner
UK
On 30 Apr 2013, at 15:41, ADefi <adefi54@...> wrote:

?

Hello again,
?
I'm sorry but is there a reason as to why there are no email since last thursday?
Perhaps Carol wiped me out.....
?
Thanks
?
Anna D
USA
?

From: Stefan Wisniowski <stefan.wisniowski@...>
To: "Kresy-Siberia@..." <Kresy-Siberia@...>
Sent: Subject: Re: [] Fwd: FW: Polish in Siberia
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] AGAD

 

Did you discuss with them just sending them cash. One dollar even if lost or stolen is not a great loss to test this type of situation?
?
I have sent cash many times to my family in Poland as much as 3 and 4 hundred dollars and never had a problem.
Another suggestion is to send the cash funds plus a little extra to someone in our group that lives in that area and have them?handle?the?transaction?in person.

PayPal also does a great job at a relative low cost. It?should?be an option for the government to use.

I am sure that there are many other avenues open to handle these type of transactions until the Polish government sees the light!!

Julek


On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:59 AM, bstar53 <bernard_starzewski@...> wrote:
?

This may be a little off topic but it relates to a previous post where I described the new ARCHIWUM G&#321;?WNE AKT DAWNYCH (AGAD) database of 19th Century documents from the Kresy (mostly Wolyn) region.

As I related then I was able to locate a database entry for my great great great grandparent's wedding in 1852.
I went about the process they prescribed for ordering a print of the document (probably a church ledger page) and received an electronic invoice for 1,50 zl (about 48 cents US).

Unfortunately the ONLY way they have to pay this "huge" sum is by bank transfer! - which means at least $20 in initial bank fees and another $35 if you need to have the currency converted first.

In discussing it directly with them by phone - that is it! There is no other way to pay for it unless you show up personally in Warsaw!
The response we got was that this was the Polish government and it does not engage in credit card processing.

By comparison Ellis Island uses document reproduction as a major fund raising tool!
I have been able to obtain my grandmother's ship manifest record from 1913 in full image along with information and a photo of the ship she came on.

Someone needs to lobby the Polish government to change their thinking on this.
Being able to locate an ancient family document like this is a true victory for modern technology but for those of us ex-patriot families to then encounter such foolish bureaucracy is very frustrating.

They could easily fund their efforts by allowing on line credit card transactions and then charging $10 or even $20 for international orders and reducing the banker's take to a dollar or two.
I would much rather have my money go to funding this worth while project than to have it flush into the pockets of some banks.
AGAD

 

This may be a little off topic but it relates to a previous post where I described the new ARCHIWUM G&#321;?WNE AKT DAWNYCH (AGAD) database of 19th Century documents from the Kresy (mostly Wolyn) region.

As I related then I was able to locate a database entry for my great great great grandparent's wedding in 1852.
I went about the process they prescribed for ordering a print of the document (probably a church ledger page) and received an electronic invoice for 1,50 zl (about 48 cents US).

Unfortunately the ONLY way they have to pay this "huge" sum is by bank transfer! - which means at least $20 in initial bank fees and another $35 if you need to have the currency converted first.

In discussing it directly with them by phone - that is it! There is no other way to pay for it unless you show up personally in Warsaw!
The response we got was that this was the Polish government and it does not engage in credit card processing.

By comparison Ellis Island uses document reproduction as a major fund raising tool!
I have been able to obtain my grandmother's ship manifest record from 1913 in full image along with information and a photo of the ship she came on.

Someone needs to lobby the Polish government to change their thinking on this.
Being able to locate an ancient family document like this is a true victory for modern technology but for those of us ex-patriot families to then encounter such foolish bureaucracy is very frustrating.

They could easily fund their efforts by allowing on line credit card transactions and then charging $10 or even $20 for international orders and reducing the banker's take to a dollar or two.
I would much rather have my money go to funding this worth while project than to have it flush into the pockets of some banks.
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Perhaps Carol wiped me out.....
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USA
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Anders monument unveiled

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It's puzzling to read that Anders was "captured by the Soviets in February 1940". He wrote that on?Sept. 30, 1939 he walked to Jesionka Stasiowa and was reported by a villager to militiamen and Soviet troops, then driven across Turka to Stary Sambor. Wounds meant some time in hospital for treatment prior to being put into a cell, but he was clearly in Soviet captivity from the end of September 1939.

John Halucha
Sault Ste Marie, Canada



Monument to Gen. Anders unveiled

30.04.2013 07:10
A monument to WW II hero General Wladyslaw Anders has been unveiled in Krosniewice, central Poland, the birthplace of the commander of Polish troops at Monte Cassino.
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photo - PAP/Grzegorz Micha?owski
His daughter, Anna Maria, who attended the ceremony, was evidently moved by the occasion.
She spoke of her strong attachment to her father and said that he always had time for her.
“Even though he lived in London, Poland was always the most important for him. He believed that he would be able to return to his homeland,” Anna Maria Anders said.
The ceremony was also attended by local officials and veterans of the Second Polish Corps.
Lieutenant Stanis?aw P?osinski recalled General Anders as a commander who was genuinely interested in the life of each and every of his soldiers.
General Anders, who was born in Krosniewice in 1892, was for many Poles, especially those living in exile, an iconic figure.
He was captured by the Soviets in February 1940. When Hitler turned on Stalin in June 1941, he was released from the Lubyanka prison in Moscow and was later given the task of forming an army from the survivors of the one and a half million Poles who had been captured in 1939 or later deported into the Soviet Union.
General Anders led some 77,000 soldiers accompanied by over 43,000 civilians who had suffered starvation in labour camps and gulags out of the Soviet Union into Persia.
In 1943 the Second Polish Corps under General Anders’ command landed in Italy and in May 1944 suffered great losses in the capture of Monte Cassino.
After the war, the communist government in Poland deprived Anders of Polish citizenship and military rank. They were posthumously reinstated after the collapse of communism in 1989.
General Anders died in London on 12 May 1970, the 26th anniversary of the Battle of Monte Cassino, and was buried, in accordance with his last will, at the Polish War Cemetery at Monte Cassino in Italy.
Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Liczkowce [1 Attachment]

 

Hello Stan,

Thanks for the Map, much appreciated.

The name you gave that Liczkowce is now just appeared on my screen as some random characters.

Barry


From: Stanislaw Zwierzynski
To: "Kresy-Siberia@..." Sent: Monday, 29 April 2013, 15:14
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Hi Barry!
Liczkowce? - 10 km to the Nord from town Husiatyn.

Now Liczkowce is ????????i????i or ????????????????, Tarnopol oblast, Ukraine. Beautiful church XVIII century.?

Stan from M.

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Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:44 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Liczkowce

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Dear Group, I am the new boy on the block. On behalf of my wife I am trying to discover the route and timing of the Baryluk family from their home in Liczkowce in what was the Polish Tarnopol province to eventually England.
I believe they were sent to Siberia , later Iran, then India.

My question is does anyone know of the place Liczkowce and or its inhabitants around 1939?
Thanks
Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Linda Cimachowicz from, Glendora, CA. USA

Linda Cimachowicz
 

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Hello Antoni & Stan,

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Thank you for your help and interest. I'm afraid I'm a novice to all of this and don't know what a WIG map is? I also couldn't find anything on google maps. You'll have to give me real specific directions :-)). Sorry. Is there a website that would tell me if the village of Bojarszczyzna still exists? Or if it exists with a new name. I'll have to dig deeper into checking the birth records in Wolma or Iwieniec. It's all such a mystery but I'm reading lots of articles on what happened during the war. It's very interesting and I certainly didn't know that much about it before.

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I appreciate any other suggestions you can give.

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Linda from California

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Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 4:17 AM
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Linda,

Following your discussion I sent to your private email address a map showing the location of Bojarszczyzna; just as Stan said; it is just North of the line from Iwieniec and Wolma. You see Wolma in the bottom RHand corner of that map. It was in reply to a message you posted to Radzima site.

May I add that there is mention of this little village in church records of early XVIIIth c. and in Slownik Geograficzny Krolewstwa Polskiego on page 672. ( just a reference to it) One assumes that the Church records of birth, etc are either at Wolma or Iwieniec.

antoni530 in UK]

--- In Kresy-Siberia@..., Stanislaw Zwierzynski <zwierzinski1957@...> wrote:
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> Hello Linda!
> Iwieniec is on a different map. These cards on 1926 year.
> You log on to the WIG site??- the pre-war Polish Institute of Cartography, all Kresy divided into squares. Choose your square.
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> You can view jn Googl maps the??place of?? your old village.
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> About grief ofour ancestors -?? it was a very heavy time. But time was heroic, and all who were in a meat grinder and preserved human dignity - they are heroes.
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> Do not worry about the plight of your father - he was in heaven. And that's where we would get - the big question.
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> Stan from M.
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> From: Linda Cimachowicz <mail4linda@...>
> To: Kresy-Siberia@...
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 1:37 AM
> Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Introducing new member Linda Cimachowicz from, Glendora, CA. USA
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> Hello Stan,
> Thank you for your response. It would be so great if you were able to see the village of Bojarszczyzna. Looking at your map, I couldn't find Iwieniec?
> Is the map really old. It looks like an ancient one. Are the villages still around after WWII? Is your family from Iwieniec? If so, have you had any luck finding them? This whole search is getting very interesting.
> I learned that my father-in-law joined the Polish Campaign the same day that Nazi Germany attacked and invaded Poland (Sept. 1, 1939). He was captured by the Russians 17 days later and held as a POW for 2 years.
> He was given amnesty then and joined the Polish Army in 1941 under British Command and served in Persia (Iran) till 1944. Then took part in the Battle of Monte Cassino in Italy till 1945. He was then emigrated to Canada.
> He must have had a terrible life during that period and then to never to hear or see his family for the rest of his life.
> I appreciate your help.
> Linda Cimachowicz
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> From:Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Stanislaw Zwierzynski
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 1:38 AM
> To: Kresy-Siberia@...
> Subject: Re: [] Re: Introducing new member Linda Cimachowicz from, Glendora, CA. USA [1 Attachment]
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> [Attachment(s) from Stanislaw Zwierzynski included below]
> Hi, Linda!
> This village isnot far from Iwieniec, earlier it was inthis district (gmina). On the WIG map??you will find it in the upper left-hand corner.
> Village stands in the way from Iwieniec to Rakow on the right side of the road.
> ??In March 2013??I was there (in Iwieniec), will go there again in July. If I will have a car, I can reach??this place and see if there's any village.
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> Stan from M.
> From:Linda Cimachowicz <mail4linda@...>
> To: Kresy-Siberia@...
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:20 AM
> Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Introducing new member Linda Cimachowicz from, Glendora, CA. USA
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> Thank you so much Helen and Lenarda.
> ??
> On my father-in-laws (Wladyslaw Cimachowicz) military papers it says he was born in Bojarszczyzna (I believe this is a village), the Province of Wotozyn, Nowogrodek, Poland.
> I know this area is now in Belarus. Does anyone know about these regions? We're they destroyed in the war? Where would be the best place to look for birth, marriage and death certificates? Would Minsk be the best place to stay while we do our research? We have no photos or papers except his military Demobilization Certificate.
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> I contacted the Minister of Defence in the UK yesterday. They do have records on him. I'm sending in a request along with the fee to receive them. That will take 6-8 weeks. This is the first success I've had in my search for my father-in-laws history. I'm very hopeful that the nice people from Kresy-Siberia will be able to help as well.
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> Thank you everyone.
> ??
> Linda Cimachowicz
> ??
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England

 

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Barbara welcome to group, the members have much knowledge to assist you in filling in the gaps, completing the puzzle and will assist in all that is possible.

Warmest welcome

Lenarda, Sydney, Australia

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Sent: Tuesday, 30 April, 2013 1:03 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England

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?Dear group

Please welcome new member Barbara who is also known as Barbara Alison ?songwriter ?(

Web Page:?)

Barbara's ?father's name was Wladyslaw Ryszkowski. He was living in Marcinkance, Nr Grodno, when WW2 broke out.? He was deported to Siberia in February 1940 with his father Mieczyslaw, his mother Waclawa and his two brothers Edmund and Czeslaw. Mieczyslaw ? died of typhoid (tyfus plamisty), but Waclawa with her three sons enlisted with the Polish Army and ?managed to get out of Siberia. ?Wladyslaw and Czeslaw took part in the Normandy Campaign with the Polish 1st Armoured Division, and Edmund took part in the Battle of Monte Cassino with the 2nd Corps.

Barbara's mother Walentyna (nee Misiewicz) came from a village called Niemilja in Wolyn.? Her father Felicjan and two sisters (Maria & Zofia) were murdered by the Ukrainian nationalists. Walentyna ?survived with her mother Florentyna and two younger sisters (Alina & Danuta).? They were deported by the Germans to Austria, then transferred for a short time to Germany, and finally ended up in Italy where Walentyna joined the Polish Army and worked in a military hospital. ?

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Barbara is now writing about her parents' experiences (based on their narratives) as a legacy to younger members of the family, and ?she hopes that by joining the Kresy-Siberia group she will be able to get some additional information to help me with her writing.

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Thank you Barbara for your kind donation and I wish you lots of success in your writing.?

Kind regards

Helen Bitner

Colchester UK

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Introducing new members Barry and Barbara Wilson from Norfolk England

Helen Bitner
 

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?Dear Group
I'm away from home just now so not as organised as I might be.?I'm afraid I was delayed in my introduction of Barbara and Barry ?but nevertheless they are most welcome and ?I do hope that we can help in finding some connections with Barbara's family Baryluk from Liczkowcc.

I wish you every success in your search Barbara and Barry
Kind regards
Helen Bitner
Colchester
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England

 

I see 3 Misiewicz on the Katyn lists.
Feliks Misiewicz, born 1888, son of Konstantego -?Charkow
Jan Misiewicz, born 1908, son of Piotra - Katyn
Mieczyslaw Misiewicz, born 1912, son of Leona - Charkow
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Mark T.
Canada

From: Helen Bitner
To: "Kresy-Siberia@..."
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 11:03:15 AM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England
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?Dear group
Please welcome new member Barbara who is also known as Barbara Alison ?songwriter ?(
Web Page:?)
Barbara's ?father's name was Wladyslaw Ryszkowski. He was living in Marcinkance, Nr Grodno, when WW2 broke out.? He was deported to Siberia in February 1940 with his father Mieczyslaw, his mother Waclawa and his two brothers Edmund and Czeslaw. Mieczyslaw ? died of typhoid (tyfus plamisty), but Waclawa with her three sons enlisted with the Polish Army and ?managed to get out of Siberia. ?Wladyslaw and Czeslaw took part in the Normandy Campaign with the Polish 1st Armoured Division, and Edmund took part in the Battle of Monte Cassino with the 2nd Corps.
Barbara's mother Walentyna (nee Misiewicz) came from a village called Niemilja in Wolyn.? Her father Felicjan and two sisters (Maria & Zofia) were murdered by the Ukrainian nationalists. Walentyna ?survived with her mother Florentyna and two younger sisters (Alina & Danuta).? They were deported by the Germans to Austria, then transferred for a short time to Germany, and finally ended up in Italy where Walentyna joined the Polish Army and worked in a military hospital. ?
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Barbara is now writing about her parents' experiences (based on their narratives) as a legacy to younger members of the family, and ?she hopes that by joining the Kresy-Siberia group she will be able to get some additional information to help me with her writing.

Thank you Barbara for your kind donation and I wish you lots of success in your writing.?
Kind regards
Helen Bitner
Colchester UK
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Academic Conference - Battle of the Atlantic - 23/24 May Liverpool

Eva
 

Dear UK members,

As part of the 70th anniversary commemorations of the Battle of the Atlantic taking place in Liverpool on 24-28 May, I thought you might be interested in this Academic Conference.
I will post more information about other events planned shortly.

Best regards.
Eva Szegidewicz
Director, Kresy-Siberia (UK)



"THE BATTLE OF THE ATLANTIC REMEMBERED"
Academic Conference Liverpool
23rd-24th May 2013

This Academic Conference will reflect upon and analyse many of the human and military aspects of the Battle of the Atlantic. Twenty-five internationally-acclaimed academic historians, military strategists and authors from the UK, USA, Canada and continental Europe will come together for this unique event, set in the city that controlled the Atlantic Approaches to Europe during the Second World War.
The Conference Facilitator is Professor Eric Grove, an internationally-renowned expert in naval history and military strategy.
The first day of the conference is to be at the Royal Navy Headquarters in Brunswick Dock by courtesy of the Naval Regional Commander, Commodore Dickie Baum R.N. and will be opened by Dame Lorna Muirhead, the Lord Lieutenant of Merseyside. The Keynote Speaker is Vice Admiral Sir Allan Massey, a former Second Sea Lord and now the Chief Executive of the Maritime and Coastguard Agency. The first day will end with a traditional Royal Navy Wardroom Dinner at the Naval Headquarters.
For the second day of the Conference, the event moves to the Liverpool Maritime Museum in the Albert Dock where the presentations and discussions will continue in the main lecture theatre. The afternoon presentations are followed by a reception for the delegates and invited guests which will be sponsored by Seafarers UK, the primary UK charity for distressed mariners, both Merchant Navy and Royal Navy. The day ends with the Band of the Her Majesty's Royal Marines which will "beat retreat" on the flags outside the Museum at 19:45.
The conference is limited to a maximum of 100 delegates. The conference fee is ?30 for the two days and includes lunches and morning and afternoon refreshments. The conference dinner costs ?35 per person including wines and port. Attendance is open to anyone with a deeper interest in the history of the Battle of the Atlantic.
Requests to book places, whilst available, may be addressed to the Hon. Conference Administrator, Dr. Nicolas Jedynakiewicz,(admin@...)
or by post to:
Dr. Nicolas Jedynakiewicz, D.L.
"The Battle of the Atlantic Remembered" Conference Delegate Bookings,
c/o Naval Regional Headquarters, Brunswick Dock, Liverpool L3 4DZ
7441 - 7460 of 63086