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Joanna Przybyl
Thank you so much!! You are such a special, wonderful group of people. Today I've got first information about my grandma Marysia and my father Zdzis?aw. Thanks to Halina(NZ) and all of you I now know where they were lived and where they were deported.
I was born and raise? in Poland, so I speak and write in Polish better then in English. So sorry for my mistakes. ? My grandma Marianna Bo?em¨®j (after her husband) but Redo was her family name , was living in Sieniechiewszczyzna with her parents Grzegorz Redo (he passed before WWII) and he was a widower with 5 kid when he married my grandmother's? mother Leontyna Redo (Krasuska) .My grandmother Marianna?? married?? Jan Bo?em¨®j from NIemir¨®w, so she moved to NIemir¨®w.. My father Zdzis?aw Bo?em¨®j was born June ,09,1936, not as it is in Russian document in? 1937 in NIemir¨®w. His father Jan Bo?em¨®j was wounded during fight in September 1939 and died later in the hospital in Brze??. So after my granddad death my grandma with her son moved back? to her mother house in Sieniechiewszczyzna. From here they were deported to Syberia on February,10,1940. with almost all members of family. Members of family, my grandma siblings: Ignacy Redo-deported to Syberia, later jointed II Polish Army with gen. Berling. Returned to Poland. Lived in Unis?aw Pomorski with his family- wife Walentyna Redo (Olejniczak), children- Sabina, Ryszard, Roman and Anna . Deceased. Franciszek Redo-deprted to Syberia and jointed Berling's Army, returnd to Poland, lived in Unis?aw with wife Maria and son Leszek.Deceased. Jadwiga Redo? later Bruks- deported to Syberia and later jointed Anders Army, she was on Monte Casino, England and later moved with her family to USA. Lived in New Jersey with Husband Feliks Bruks and sons Andrzej and Zbigniew. Died in 2000. Sabina Redo (Siemak)- Deported to Syberia, jointed Anders Army with Jadwiga, was in Englad after the war, got married Feliks Siemak, had sons Andrzej and Robert and daughter Danuta. Later moved to USA, lived in New Jersey and Los Angels. Died in 2012. Marianna Bo?em¨®j (Redo)- deporetd to Syberia. Returned to Poland? in 1946 or 1947 Good Friday before Wielkanoc.to Kutno. Then lived in Nysa K?odzka and then in Unis?aw Pomorski.Deceased. I remember that she was working in Syberia in the forest during the winter and during the spring or summer they work on the river with pushing those big wood on the river., She had to support his little son, sick mother, sick brother Ignacy, and small brother Gerard. Gerard Redo- deported to Syberia. Stayed with my grandma and my father and returned with them. Lived in Warka with his wife Ala, daughter Urszula, and son Mariusz Deceased. My grandma's the oldest brother Tadeusz ( from the second marriage? of my geat grandfather Grzegorz)? was in Military and was not deported, but his wife Klara ( I only know that she played violin and was very pretty) was deported to Syberia, jointed Anders Army, was in England and in USA. My Father Zdzis?aw Bo?em¨®j- deported with his mom to Syberia. Returned with her to Poland. Lived in Unis?aw Pomorski with his wife (my mother) Helena, and children El?bieta, Joanna (me) and Rados?aw. He died in 1989. With this family lived one men :Jan. My great grandfather fined him very sick somewhere near the railway.? and took him to his home. He helped later with working with cows. He was not on the list, but did not want to stay alone , he wanted to go with his new family. They never knew his real name. He only could say like this: Krak¨®w, Miech¨®w, Cz?stochowa, Ziemia Kielecka, Jan D?browski, syn Karola. He died in Syberia. The other family members deported to Syberia; Boles?aw Redo with wife Anna Redo, and children Stanis?awa, Wanda and Zdzis?aw. They returned to Poland, but now they are all dead. I know that other family members were there from Fajkowski family, but not a lot. I remember some talks at home about people, places, but was so stupid to not write down or remember more. The time when they were living in Siechieniowszczyzna, and later in Syberia are like black tablet to me. I even did not remember the place where they were took. I hope to find more information, maybe people who know them. Thanks to the Tadeusz Niebrzegowski and his writings I was able to find some information. I am sure he knows my family, my father. I onlu would hope to meet Mr. Tadeusz Niebrzegowski and talk to him. In 3 weeks I will go to Poland and will spend there about 2 months. We find my grandmother address book , so I am going to visit every place ?I am going there with my children_ Adam-19, Kasia-5, Anna-12 and Micha?-8. I want for them to research my family history. Thank you so much for your help. God bless you. Joanna Przybyl (Bo?em¨®j) |
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Thanks Elzunia, It was not only my K-S emails but other group; right after I sent the email I went to spam and found 999+ emails. ?Yeap! it took me a while but got it done. Anna From: Elzunia/Elizabeth Gradosielska/Maczka To: Kresy-Siberia@... Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 2:20 PM Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] email
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Hi Anna
You can always check the website to see the latest messages Elzunia Sweden --- In Kresy-Siberia@..., ADefi wrote: > > Hello again, > ?? > I'm sorry but is there a reason as to why there are no email since last thursday? > Perhaps Carol wiped me out..... > ?? > Thanks > ?? > Anna D > USA > ?? > > > ________________________________ > From: Stefan Wisniowski > To: "Kresy-Siberia@..." <Kresy-Siberia@...> > Sent: Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Fwd: FW: Polish in Siberia > > ?? > > > ?? > |
Re: Introducing new member Joanna Przyby?? from Naperville, IL.USA
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Details of the deportation of your father Zdzislaw and his mother Maria are on the Russian Deportation Lists website here: Also on the Polish KARTA website here: and They indicate that Zdzislaw and Maria were deported from the village of Siehieniewszczyzna / Siechieniewszczyzna to labour camp Warda in the Cholmogorski region of Archangielsk province in the USSR. Tadeusz Niebrzegowski and his family were deported from Siehieniewszczyzna to the same labour camp as your father. He writes about the deportation here: You can see photos from the village here: and you can find the village on the map here: Kind regards Halina (NZ) --- In Kresy-Siberia@..., Helen Bitner <helen.bitner@...> wrote:
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Elzunia/Elizabeth Gradosielska/Maczka
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You can always check the website to see the latest messages Elzunia Sweden --- In Kresy-Siberia@..., ADefi <adefi54@...> wrote:
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Joanna Przyby? from Naperville, IL.USA
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Mark, the problem is the little vowel marks and if you take them out it reads ZDZISLAW BOZEMOL. Hope this helps Lenarda, Australia ? From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Helen Bitner
Sent: Thursday, 02 May, 2013 5:02 AM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Joanna Przyby? from Naperville, IL.USA ? ? Hi Mark? I've no idea what happened but the message came back to my mail box as I wrote it. The name should have read Zdzis?aw Bo?em¨®l. Kind regards Helen Bitner UK ? ? On 1 May 2013, at 19:41, Mark <turkiewiczm@...> wrote: ? ? Hi Helenz The?name displays?with unidentifiable characters. ? Mark T. From: Helen Bitner <helen.bitner@...> ? ? Dear Group Please welcome Joanna to the group. Her father Zdzislaw Bo??em??j ?was born 9th June1936, in Niemir??w. He was deported ?with other family members to Siberia on ?February 10, 1940. His mother Marianne Bo??em??j was born ?7 April 1917 in Sielcach. Joanna will go to Poland this summer??in search of her family history.? Her research has just started ?and she would appreciate any help or ?suggestions as to where to begin.? Joanna do you have any other details about your family's deportation? For example do you know ?the names of the places the family were sent, or the kind of work they were made to do? ? Kind regards Helen Bitner Colchester UK? ? ? ? |
Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Joanna Przyby? from Naperville, IL.USA
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýJoanna welcome to group, we look forward to more information about your family and will assist in all that is possible Warmest regards, Lenarda, Sydney, Australia ? From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Helen Bitner
Sent: Thursday, 02 May, 2013 2:26 AM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Joanna Przyby? from Naperville, IL.USA ? ? ? Dear Group Please welcome Joanna to the group. Her father Zdzislaw Bo?em¨®j ?was born 9th June1936, in Niemir¨®w. He was deported ?with other family members to Siberia on ?February 10, 1940. His mother Marianne Bo?em¨®j was born ?7 April 1917 in Sielcach. Joanna will go to Poland this summer??in search of her family history.? Her research has just started ?and she would appreciate any help or ?suggestions as to where to begin.? Joanna do you have any other details about your family's deportation? For example do you know ?the names of the places the family were sent, or the kind of work they were made to do? ? Kind regards Helen Bitner Colchester UK? ? |
Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Joanna Przyby?? from Naperville, IL.USA
Elzunia/Elizabeth Gradosielska/Maczka
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make sure your Coding is set to Unicode (UTF-8) on the original message (you may need to change it every time Polish letters are used). Elzunia Sweden --- In Kresy-Siberia@..., Mark <turkiewiczm@...> wrote:
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Joanna Przyby? from Naperville, IL.USA
Helen Bitner
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Mark?I've no idea what happened but the message came back to my mail box as I wrote it. The name should have read Zdzis?aw Bo?em¨®l. Kind regards Helen Bitner UK ? On 1 May 2013, at 19:41, Mark <turkiewiczm@...> wrote:
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Joanna Przyby? from Naperville, IL.USA
Hi Helen.
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To: "Kresy-Siberia@..." <Kresy-Siberia@...> Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 12:26:23 PM Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Joanna Przyby? from Naperville, IL.USA ?
Dear Group
Please welcome Joanna to the group. Her father Zdzislaw Bo??em??j ?was born 9th June1936, in Niemir??w. He was deported ?with other family members to Siberia on ?February 10, 1940. His mother Marianne Bo??em??j was born ?7 April 1917 in Sielcach. Joanna will go to Poland this summer??in search of her family history.?
Her research has just started ?and she would appreciate any help or ?suggestions as to where to begin.?
Joanna do you have any other details about your family's deportation? For example do you know ?the names of the places the family were sent, or the kind of work they were made to do?
Kind regards
Helen Bitner
Colchester
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] AGAD
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That is great! But I am a little confused. Are you saying that if I make a contribution to Kresy the funds will be taken out of that? Dad already mailed $2.00 to AGAD but we arent sure they are going to accept it or if it will get there in time for the May 5th deadline. Two dollars is inconsequential and I would be happy to follow up with it here if I understood the process a little better. Please detail what I must do! Bernie --- In Kresy-Siberia@..., Stefan Wisniowski <stefan.wisniowski@...> wrote:
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Introducing new member Joanna Przyby? from Naperville, IL.USA
Helen Bitner
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýDear Group Please welcome Joanna to the group. Her father Zdzislaw Bo?em¨®j ?was born 9th June1936, in Niemir¨®w. He was deported ?with other family members to Siberia on ?February 10, 1940. His mother Marianne Bo?em¨®j was born ?7 April 1917 in Sielcach. Joanna will go to Poland this summer??in search of her family history.? Her research has just started ?and she would appreciate any help or ?suggestions as to where to begin.? Joanna do you have any other details about your family's deportation? For example do you know ?the names of the places the family were sent, or the kind of work they were made to do? Kind regards Helen Bitner Colchester UK? |
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I clicked on this message expecting to read about the "Anders monument unveiled", but find that the topic has changed.
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Just a friendly reminder to please change the subject line when this happens. You can keep the old topic name, just add the word "was" before the "Re:". This will help those reading posts as well as in future archival searches of our messages. Thanks ! Andy Golebiowski Buffalo, N.Y. U.S.A. --- In Kresy-Siberia@..., "Linda Cimachowicz" <mail4linda@...> wrote:
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Re: biblioteka kresowa
Elzunia/Elizabeth Gradosielska/Maczka
probably very interesting - but I can't open them!
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Elzunia Sweden --- In Kresy-Siberia@..., "Lucyna Artymiuk" <lucynaartymiuk@...> wrote:
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Joint resolution on UPA crimes against the civilian Polish population
Dear Vladek! I completely agree with your assessment of the UPA. They were not only criminal organization, but also had a clear bias?of satanic - start there you can be only physically destroyed (for example, cut off a head, abdomen push) a Pole, a Jew or a communist. But. My friends in Galicia (Lviv, Ternopil) sympathetic to the UPA. They say that in order to achieve the goal (create Monona Ukrainian national state), all methods were good. And here we have much to discuss that The end justifies the means? Stan from M. ? From: walter_orlowski
To: Kresy-Siberia@... Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2013 2:05 AM Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Joint resolution on UPA crimes against the civilian Polish population
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Hi Group: I would like to bring to your attention an article (April 26th in Nasz Dziennik) which should be of interest to all of us. It deals with a response of President Komorowski to an appeal by the Ukrainian Committee for the Agreement between Nations. I am including a Google Translation of the article, with my corrections. As you know the Communists and after 1989 the post-Communist have covered up UPA crimes and one cannot trust Komorowski to fight for the truth about these crimes since throughout his career he has stonewalled any attempts to commemorate the victims. What raised the red flag is this quote from Komorowski's adviser Henry Wujec: "Adviser said that "UPA murdered Poles, but in retaliation Polish armed units murdered Ukrainians." That is just false and clearly does not even comes close to describing the genocide committed in Kresy by Ukrainian SS, the Ukrainian Auxiliary Police and the UPA. The Communists and post-Communist want to portray the slaughter of quarter million Poles as collateral damage in fighting between the Poles and Ukrainians. That is an absurdity. It is the same calling the killing by Jews by the Nazis collateral damage and that both should apologize to each other and forgive and forget. "The Forgive and Forget" crowd in Poland today are the Communists and post-Communists who want us to forget Soviet Crimes and who want to downsize Polish suffering. If you have time, I urge you to write to Polish Ambassadors in your country and state clearly that the UPA crimes must be condemned and not EQUATED with any fighting between UPA, the Ukrainian SS and Polish AK, which was minimal. The last time there was such an attempt, Pres. Kwasniewski apologized for "Wisla Action" but there was no reciprocal apology and condemnation from the Ukrainian side. In the Wisla Action Ukrainians were not slaughtered. Komorowski and the other post-Communists cannot be trusted with the truth. With best regards, Wladek |
Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders monument unveiled
Linda Cimachowicz
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHello Lenarda and John, ? The same thing must have happened to my father-in-law! On Sept. 18, 1939 he was taken captive by the Russians and then released two years later when the Germans invaded. His papers say he was released to Amnesty. Now I know why, thanks to all you other curious people. ? Thank you, Linda Cimachowicz, California ? From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Lenarda Szymczak
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 12:48 PM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Anders monument unveiled ? ? This is brilliant news and fitting for a Polish Hero.? Just suppose, imagine that Hitler never turned on Stalin, the fate of the Polish People would be much different and perhaps Stalin would have tried to conquer Hitler and still take Poland.? So in a strange way, Hitler aided the Polish cause by forcing Stalin to release our people.? But most important, our hero has come home and is honoured in his birth place. Regards, Lenarda, Australia ? From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of John Halucha ? ? It's puzzling to read that Anders was "captured by the Soviets in February 1940". He wrote that on?Sept. 30, 1939 he walked to Jesionka Stasiowa and was reported by a villager to militiamen and Soviet troops, then driven across Turka to Stary Sambor. Wounds meant some time in hospital for treatment prior to being put into a cell, but he was clearly in Soviet captivity from the end of September 1939. ? John Halucha Sault Ste Marie, Canada ? ? Monument to Gen. Anders unveiled30.04.2013 07:10 A monument to WW II hero General Wladyslaw Anders has been unveiled in Krosniewice, central Poland, the birthplace of the commander of Polish troops at Monte Cassino. photo - PAP/Grzegorz Micha?owski His daughter, Anna Maria, who attended the ceremony, was evidently moved by the occasion. She spoke of her strong attachment to her father and said that he always had time for her. ¡°Even though he lived in London, Poland was always the most important for him. He believed that he would be able to return to his homeland,¡± Anna Maria Anders said. The ceremony was also attended by local officials and veterans of the Second Polish Corps. Lieutenant Stanis?aw P?osinski recalled General Anders as a commander who was genuinely interested in the life of each and every of his soldiers. General Anders, who was born in Krosniewice in 1892, was for many Poles, especially those living in exile, an iconic figure. He was captured by the Soviets in February 1940. When Hitler turned on Stalin in June 1941, he was released from the Lubyanka prison in Moscow and was later given the task of forming an army from the survivors of the one and a half million Poles who had been captured in 1939 or later deported into the Soviet Union. General Anders led some 77,000 soldiers accompanied by over 43,000 civilians who had suffered starvation in labour camps and gulags out of the Soviet Union into Persia. In 1943 the Second Polish Corps under General Anders¡¯ command landed in Italy and in May 1944 suffered great losses in the capture of Monte Cassino. After the war, the communist government in Poland deprived Anders of Polish citizenship and military rank. They were posthumously reinstated after the collapse of communism in 1989. General Anders died in London on 12 May 1970, the 26th anniversary of the Battle of Monte Cassino, and was buried, in accordance with his last will, at the Polish War Cemetery at Monte Cassino in Italy. |
Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýBarbara, the link comes up fine and I can see the road to Stara Hut and you are on the other side of the Slucz River, the same as me.? My family of Chmielewski comes from the Colony of Niwna 60k from Slucz River and 30k from Zhitomierz, on the other side of the Riga Treaty Line of 1921 or as written on Strony O Wolyniu, ¡°za Kordonem¡±. . Many of KS members have placed their families mark on this site. ?This is a permanent record and enables people to find each other, who lived there before 1939, ?but in my research, nothing can go past the sincere assistance, caring and knowledge given by Kresy-Siberia Group for filling in the gaps between the pieces of puzzle with continuous, ongoing research, always finding new information, survivor testimony of loved ones lost and in the existing group we have actual survivors of those horrific times, giving their own personal recollections and assisting new comers like you and me. I found a place where I am accepted and belong, knowing where I came from and who I am, proud of my people. Regards, Lenarda, Australia ?? ? From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Barbara Alison
Sent: Wednesday, 01 May, 2013 7:46 AM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England ? ? Lenarda ? Thanks for?all the interesting info.??My link to a Map of Niemilja is now unavailable for some reason? .? Hope it's only temporary as my family is listed there.? ? Best regards? ? Barbara London, UK ? From: Lenarda Szymczak <szymczak01@...> ? Barbara Map of Huta Stara powiat Kostopol is found in map beside powiat Kostopol in Gmina Ludwipol ?? this is next to the Riga Treaty Line of 1921.?? My family comes from the other side in the Zhitomirski Oblast. Regards, Lenarda, Australia ? From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Lenarda Szymczak ? ? Hello Barbara Some links to information about? Huta Stara powiat Kostopol from site Strony O Wolyniu, which is used for recording of information up to 1939 and stops. Huta Stara? - peoples names in village - Photos from site - ? Map - regards, Lenarda, Sydney, Australia ? From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Barbara Alison ? ? Hi Mark T, ? Thank you for the info regarding the 3 Misiewicz on the Katyn lists.? I was not aware of this, as my grandfather, Felicjan (Feliks) Misiewicz, born in 1898, was killed by the Ukrainian nationalists in 1943 and I know very little about his family background.??As far as I know his brother Michal?was also murdered?with all his family, apart from one son Tadeusz?(now deceased) who survived and?whom I met as he was living in London.? My family lived in a village called Niemilja, gmina Ludwipol, powiat Kostopol, wojewodztwo wolynskie, parafia Huta Stara.? I would be interested to know if anyone else knows of anybody who came from this village, which no longer exists as it was burnt to the ground. ? Barbara Ryszkowska London, UK ? From: Mark <turkiewiczm@...> ? I see 3 Misiewicz on the Katyn lists. Feliks Misiewicz, born 1888, son of Konstantego -?Charkow Jan Misiewicz, born 1908, son of Piotra - Katyn Mieczyslaw Misiewicz, born 1912, son of Leona - Charkow ? Mark T.Canada From: Helen Bitner <helen.bitner@...> ? ?Dear group Please welcome new member Barbara who is also known as Barbara Alison ?songwriter ?( Web Page:?) Barbara's ?father's name was Wladyslaw Ryszkowski. He was living in Marcinkance, Nr Grodno, when WW2 broke out.? He was deported to Siberia in February 1940 with his father Mieczyslaw, his mother Waclawa and his two brothers Edmund and Czeslaw. Mieczyslaw ? died of typhoid (tyfus plamisty), but Waclawa with her three sons enlisted with the Polish Army and ?managed to get out of Siberia. ?Wladyslaw and Czeslaw took part in the Normandy Campaign with the Polish 1st Armoured Division, and Edmund took part in the Battle of Monte Cassino with the 2nd Corps. Barbara's mother Walentyna (nee Misiewicz) came from a village called Niemilja in Wolyn.? Her father Felicjan and two sisters (Maria & Zofia) were murdered by the Ukrainian nationalists. Walentyna ?survived with her mother Florentyna and two younger sisters (Alina & Danuta).? They were deported by the Germans to Austria, then transferred for a short time to Germany, and finally ended up in Italy where Walentyna joined the Polish Army and worked in a military hospital. ? ? Barbara is now writing about her parents' experiences (based on their narratives) as a legacy to younger members of the family, and ?she hopes that by joining the Kresy-Siberia group she will be able to get some additional information to help me with her writing. ? Thank you Barbara for your kind donation and I wish you lots of success in your writing.? Kind regards Helen Bitner Colchester UK ? ? ? |
Joint resolution on UPA crimes against the civilian Polish population
Hi Group:
I would like to bring to your attention an article (April 26th in Nasz Dziennik) which should be of interest to all of us. It deals with a response of President Komorowski to an appeal by the Ukrainian Committee for the Agreement between Nations. I am including a Google Translation of the article, with my corrections. As you know the Communists and after 1989 the post-Communist have covered up UPA crimes and one cannot trust Komorowski to fight for the truth about these crimes since throughout his career he has stonewalled any attempts to commemorate the victims. What raised the red flag is this quote from Komorowski's adviser Henry Wujec: "Adviser said that "UPA murdered Poles, but in retaliation Polish armed units murdered Ukrainians." That is just false and clearly does not even comes close to describing the genocide committed in Kresy by Ukrainian SS, the Ukrainian Auxiliary Police and the UPA. The Communists and post-Communist want to portray the slaughter of quarter million Poles as collateral damage in fighting between the Poles and Ukrainians. That is an absurdity. It is the same calling the killing by Jews by the Nazis collateral damage and that both should apologize to each other and forgive and forget. "The Forgive and Forget" crowd in Poland today are the Communists and post-Communists who want us to forget Soviet Crimes and who want to downsize Polish suffering. If you have time, I urge you to write to Polish Ambassadors in your country and state clearly that the UPA crimes must be condemned and not EQUATED with any fighting between UPA, the Ukrainian SS and Polish AK, which was minimal. The last time there was such an attempt, Pres. Kwasniewski apologized for "Wisla Action" but there was no reciprocal apology and condemnation from the Ukrainian side. In the Wisla Action Ukrainians were not slaughtered. Komorowski and the other post-Communists cannot be trusted with the truth. With best regards, Wladek Joint resolution should pay tribute to the victims of genocide Friday, April 26, 2013 (20:50) The appeal of the Ukrainian Committee for the Agreement between Nations to observe the 70th anniversary of crimes of Volyn in the spirit of dialogue, was welcomed by the presidential adviser Henry Wujec. However, according to Polish MPs who for many years demanding Kresowian commemorate those killed by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army, possible joint Polish-Ukrainian resolution on this issue should first of all pay tribute to the victims of genocide in the former lands of the Second Republic. As reported Kresy.pl portal, an adviser to the President for Henry Wujec civil society in favor of a joint resolution of the Polish and Ukrainian parliaments on the 70th anniversary of the Katyn Volyn. In his view, it is essential to honor the memory of the murdered Poles and Ukrainians. Adviser said that "UPA murdered Poles, but in retaliation Polish armed units murdered Ukrainians." He expressed his belief that the crime must be condemned, but this must be done in a dialogue to reconcile the two nations. At the same time welcomed the appeal of the Ukrainian Committee for the Agreement between Nations to observe the anniversary in a spirit of dialogue. He added that the unilateral adoption of resolutions will lead to nowhere. However, according to a group of Polish parliamentarians, the resolution should first of all pay tribute to the victims of the genocide perpetrated by Ukrainian nationalists in the former lands of the Second Republic. Also indicating that equating the enormity of the crimes committed by the UPA on the civilian population of South-eastern borderlands with the Polish self-defense activities, should not be allowed. Member of Parliament Francis George Stefaniuk (PSL), who for years is trying to commemorate the victims of the genocide 70 years ago, among others through designating July 11th Kresowian Martyrdom Memorial Day, supports the joint resolution, "if the Ukrainian parliament will want to pay tribute to the victims of genocide in the Second Republic." He emphasized, in an interview with the portal NaszDziennik.pl, that "equating those who committed the crimes, with those who became victims-cannot be allowed." -- We must recognize the martyrdom of Poles in Ukraine and to pay tribute to the Polish and Ukrainian victims, who died at the hands of UPA thugs. However, those who committed these crimes should not be glorified - says the MP. He referred in this way to instances in Ukraine of honoring main ideologes and leaders of that criminal Ukrainian nationalism, such as Stepan Bandera and Roman Shukhevych. It is estimated that in the years 1943-1947 Ukrainian nationalists killed up to 200 thousand people in the former lands of the Second Republic. ,wspolna-uchwala-powinna-oddac-hold-ofiarom-ludobojstwa.html |
Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] AGAD
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Bernie - I have great news for you! Kresy-Siberia has both a bank account and a PayPal account?in Poland. ? When group members make their annual contribution to Kresy-Siberia the money flows there to help cover the costs of our website and our project work to immortalise the?Kresy-Siberia history.? If you send me the details to admin@... we can do the bank transfer for you.? You can get straight to our Poland?Paypal and?bank accounts here:?.?other?countries at?? Best regards Stefan Wisniowski Sydney Australia? On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 7:59 AM, bstar53 <bernard_starzewski@...> wrote:
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