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Re: Encyklopedia Kresow
Jan Prygoda
It is among the new books at www.merlin.com.pl (major Polish webstore for books, music and movies). There are
sampe pages at the website of the publisher (in the section Polska). It costs 109 zloty (+postage) at merlin (33 US dollars / 26 euro) wydawnictwo: Ryszard Kluszczyski, Listopad 2004 ISBN: 83-89550-93-8 liczba stron: 560 wymiary: 215 x 280 mm typ okadki: twarda Jan ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht ----- Van: "Zbigniew Bob Styrna" <styrna@...> Aan: <Kresy-Siberia@...> Verzonden: woensdag 10 november 2004 5:37 Onderwerp: RE: [Kresy-Siberia] Encyklopedia Kresow Jan, Yes it looks like this book has old Polish Kresy names of heroes, leaders, lakes, mountains, etc.. Where did you say you saw it? Zbyszek |
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Re: Encyklopedia Kresow
Zbigniew Bob Styrna
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Yes it looks like this book has old Polish Kresy names of heroes, leaders, lakes, mountains, etc.. Where did you say you saw it? Zbyszek -----Original Message-----
From: Jan Prygoda [mailto:j.prygoda@...] Sent: November 9, 2004 8:23 AM To: Kresy-Siberia Groep Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Encyklopedia Kresow Question : At merlin I see for sale among the new books Encyklopedia Kresow. To be 100% sure, is this an encyclopedia about Kresy (the Eastern borderlands) ? Jan Na Kresy mo?na spojrze? z ró?nych perspektyw. Mo?na wspomina? je jako krain? dzieci?cego raju, s?awi? jako ziemi? heroicznych czynów, wabi?c? cudami przyrody i okraszon? wspania?ymi dzie?ami architektury, mo?na wreszcie analizowa? tragiczn? stron? ich dziejów. Zamierzeniem naszej ksi??ki jest przypomnienie ca?ej z?o?ono?ci tego utraconego bezpowrotnie ?wiata, ?wiata, który odegra? nies?ychanie istotn? rol? w kszta?towaniu rodzimej kultury i to?samo?ci. Zawieraj?ca 3600 hase? Encyklopedia Kresów obejmuje biogramy barwnych kresowych bohaterów, hetmanów, magnatów, ale i ró?nej ma?ci awanturników i wichrzycieli, kre?li sylwetki ludzi nauki i kultury, przypomina czasy rozkwitu (i pó?niejszej zag?ady) miast, miasteczek, dawnych maj?tków i twierdz kresowych, opisuje wydarzenia i bitwy, opiewa pi?kno kresowych gór, rzecznych jarów i jezior, prezentuje krainy i niezwykle z?o?on? mozaik? grup etnicznych i kultur, próbuj?c te? pokaza? ma?o przecie? znany ?wiat tamtejszych zwyczajów i obrz?dów. Wyj?tkowo cennym wzbogaceniem tekstu jest ponad 1100 ró?norodnych ilustracji, na które sk?adaj? si? rysunki i grafiki dokumentuj?ce wygl?d ?wietnych ongi? rezydencji czy ?wi?tyń, fotografie i pocztówki z czasów przynale?no?ci tych ziem do Polski czy wreszcie wspó?czesne zdj?cia, obrazuj?ce stan obecny zabytków. Oprócz nich uwag? zwracaj? reprodukcje dzie? znakomitych mistrzów zwi?zanych z Kresami, portrety osobisto?ci, wytwory miejscowego rzemios?a, stare mapy itp. Mamy nadziej?, ?e lektura naszej ksi??ki stanie si? warto?ciow? podró?? sentymentaln?, odbywan? przede wszystkim w krain? narodowej pami?ci i mitów. S?owo wst?pne Stanis?aw Lem * KRESY-SIBERIA GROUP = RESEARCH REMEMBRANCE RECOGNITION "Dedicated to researching, remembering and recognising the Polish citizens deported, enslaved and killed by the Soviet Union during World War Two." * Discussion site : Gallery (photos, documents) : Film and info : * To SUBSCRIBE to the discussion group, send an e-mail saying who you are and describing your interest in the group to: Kresy-Siberia-owner@... * Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: Archives, libraries to hold photos and other materials
Zbigniew Bob Styrna
开云体育Eve, ? Thanks for the wonderful ideas. I’ll look into all of them. ?I’ll see what the pictures look like, post them on here, and we’ll decide where to donate them OK? I already bid on the album. My handle is “Moja-Droga”.? So please don’t try to outbid me . ?J ? Only 1 day and 20 hours left folks.? ? Cheers ? Zbyszek ? ? ? From: Eve5J@...
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Sent: November 9, 2004 5:47 AM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Archives, libraries to hold photos and other materials ? Bill and Group, ? Thank you for letting us know about KARTA!??This is the logical?historical home?for our material, besides Hoover. ? The Newberry Library in Chicago, Illinois, USA?is world renowned?and accepts donations of everything I think.? I looked into this a?while ago.? I was also considering Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey. ? Henry, what about the Pilsudski Institute?? Do they accept materials? ? I've read that it is important to spread around material as much as possible for researchers of the future,?so industrious folks should should place copies of their materials in?as many archives as possible in their home country and Poland.? ? Group members may also want to consider the largest collection of family history material?in the world,?the LDS, the Church of the Latter Day Saints (Mormons).??I think they accept all donations.?? ? If you live in the USA, here is a link for all or most genealogy/family history libraries here: ?? There is another main archive in Poland, and I cannot remember which one, that accepts genealogies and family histories also. ? The UK?has an extensive network of very active family history societies and county archives.? Check with your local archive to see what their requirements are. ? Regards, Eve Jankowicz USA
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Re: Eastern Europe secured its own freedom.
romed46
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Hallo Romuald, Bardzo dziekuje za gratulacje. Roman Skulski In Kresy-Siberia@..., rlipinsk@g... wrote: Hallo Roman,Imponujace! To musiala byc praca przez wiele, wiele lat. Gratuluje. Romuald |
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Web Site Expansion
henrysokolowski
While not a Kresy issue, we all have relatives who lived through the
German occupation. I have come across a very interesting English language book detailing the German atrocities in Poland during the first 22 months of the war and have decided to expand my web site to accomodate it. I have only just begun but you can have a sneak preview at Chris Gladun's mum also had a book dedicated to women who died during the war. I am slowly translating some of the shorter biographies on a dedicated page as well. Needless to say, all of this will take a fantastically long time to complete (I'm still working on the Polish-English military dictionary), but I'll get there. Finally, I hope to sort and upload my father's collection of pre-war photos (Krakow, Tatry, southeast Poland) onto my photo page at the AFO web site. I've done just a few so far. Henryk Sokolowski, Mississauga, Ontario, Canada |
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Re: Archives, libraries to hold photos and other materials
henrysokolowski
Hi Eve,
The Pilsudski Institute in New York is also run on a small budget. They accept only items of major importance. My (dry and well ventilated) basement is slowly becoming a bit of a repository for a number of "lesser" materials as well. I agree that our valuable artifacts be spread out amongst various archives to protect against, fire, flood and so on however we must make sure that the archives will be around for a long time and that they plan to hold on to the items in perpetuity, under archival conditions. There is a ton of work being done in Poland with respect to both the German and Soviet occupations. Unfortunately, needless to say, it's all in Polish, but at least it's being done and it exists out there just waiting to be translated. Henryk Sokolowski, Mississauga, Canada --- In Kresy-Siberia@..., Eve5J@a... wrote: Bill and Group,historical home for our material, besides Hoover.and accepts donations of everything I think. I looked into this a while ago.materials? as possible for researchers of the future, so industrious folks should shouldplace copies of their materials in as many archives as possible in their homecountry and Poland.family history material in the world, the LDS, the Church of the LatterDay Saints (Mormons). I think they accept all donations. genealogy/family history libraries here:in Poland, and I cannot remember which one, that accepts genealogies andfamily histories also.societies and county archives. Check with your local archive to see what theirrequirements are. |
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Re: Encyklopedia Kresow
Barbara Charuba
Yes, it is. It is probably quite interesting incuding 3600 entries on everything of biographies of its heroes to its culture and history.
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From: "Jan Prygoda" <j.prygoda@...> To: "Kresy-Siberia Groep" <Kresy-Siberia@...> Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:23 AM Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Encyklopedia Kresow
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Re: Comments on Bill Maher yesterday: US "helping" Eastern Europe
romed46
Halina,
Re your question about Polish gold. In July 1940 the Bank of Canada in Ottawa held 325,006 fine ounces of gold for Bank Polski. In July 1946 the Bank of Canada released control over gold in Ottawa to the authority of a new Polish Central Bank. However the royal collection of Wawel Castle in Krakow, sent to Canada in 1939, was secreted in the Quebec city and Quebec Premier Maurice Duplessis refused to return it to the communist Poland. The treasures were returned to Poland in 1961, sixteen months after Duplessis' death. Regards, Roman Skulski West Vancouver, Canada --- In Kresy-Siberia@..., HJ Trevelyan <hjtrevelyan@s...> wrote: Dear Group,with reason and not self-laudatory emotion as the British and Americans tend to do. Despite treaty obligations, no one except for a Czechoslovak pilot or two, came to Poland's aid in September of 1939. The Brits' help consisted of dropping leaflets over Germany...I kid you not. Britain's behavior is best described by the following quote from Churchill: "There is one helpful guide, namely, for a nation to keep its wordto act in accordance with its treaty obligations to allies. This guide is called honour." But, then, Churchill wrote his own history of WWII. Did he not? His words resounded with honor and duty, but his acts did not necessarily do honor to his lofty prose. It was in August of 1939 that Poles gave the British and French replicas of the Enigma machine and the initial codes. I think Poles had a right to expect more than leaflets. Government's gold--the gold that was placed in the Bank of England in September of 1939? Is it still in England? In Poland? Got used up-- how? If any is still left, could it not yet be used to repatriate those Poles who had been deported to Siberia and other places, but have been unable to return to Poland? States gave Eastern Europe its freedom. In fact, he used Eastern Europe as his primary example. I feel we in this group know a lot more than most of the world's citizens. Although my father did not speak about his deportation much, I was raised with full knowledge of Ugly Americanism, of the importance of the United Nations, and allies. |
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Re: Encyklopedia Kresow
Stefan Wisniowski
Yes it is about Kresy when they were still part of Poland
-- Stefan Wisniowski (moderator) Sydney, Australia From: "Jan Prygoda" <j.prygoda@...>?
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Who to blame for not stopping Hitler
Lech Lesiak
--- Zbigniew Bob Styrna <styrna@...> wrote:
--------------------------------- Lech, I agree. If everyone (France, England, etc. stood up to Hitler (the neighborhood bully), at the start, none of that WWII war stuff would have happened probably. End quote Hindsight is 20-20. I suspect I would have been for appeasement as well if I had been an adult in 1939. A lot of people had died 20 years earlier in WWI. I'm sure that the memories of that event preyed on the minds of leaders who had seen the carnage of WWI. If fault lies anywhere, I would put it on the French. They could have stopped Hitler quite smartly in 1936 if they had reacted forcefully to his sending German troops into the Rhineland. This isn't an idea that originated with me - it's the opinion of senior German officers. Cheers, Lech ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! |
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Re: Comments on Bill Maher yesterday: US "helping" Eastern Europe
Zbigniew Bob Styrna
Lech, I agree. If everyone (France, England, etc. stood up to Hitler (the
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neighborhood bully), at the start, none of that WWII war stuff would have happened probably. But because everyone was "afraid" of Hitler/Germans/Nazis, they all thought if they just "appeased " Hitler, negotiate, etc., he would not harm them. So, like a typical bully, he started to run around all of Europe then Africa, etc.. doing whatever he/they pleased. Zbyszek -----Original Message-----
From: Lech Lesiak [mailto:lech_lesiak@...] Sent: November 8, 2004 6:16 PM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: Comments on Bill Maher yesterday: US "helping" Eastern Europe --- Ralph Apel <Ralph.Apel@...> wrote: The only people who could have brought matrerial aid to Poland in the event of a German invasion were the Russians. End quote Hardly. France had a large modern army and air force, and shared a frontier with Germany. If the French had invaded from the West while Hitler was busy in Poland who knows what might have happened? Cheers, Lech ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! * KRESY-SIBERIA GROUP = RESEARCH REMEMBRANCE RECOGNITION "Dedicated to researching, remembering and recognising the Polish citizens deported, enslaved and killed by the Soviet Union during World War Two." * Discussion site : Gallery (photos, documents) : Film and info : * To SUBSCRIBE to the discussion group, send an e-mail saying who you are and describing your interest in the group to: Kresy-Siberia-owner@... * Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Re: Photo Album E-bay
Zbigniew Bob Styrna
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Thank you very much for your kind words. I will look into Karta as well. This is a very good idea which I never thought of. I found your pictures of your relatives. You are so lucky you have some memories like that. I must run to work now. Cheers Zbyszek -----Original Message-----
From: wkordas1 [mailto:wkordas1@...] Sent: November 9, 2004 4:43 AM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: Photo Album E-bay 09.11.04, 07:42 rano EDT (USA) Zbyszek, you asked (#11652) re the Tengeru Polish African refugee camp photograph album on E-bay: "Also, does anyone know if there is a central institution that collects such old Polish historical pictures?" Are you familiar with "Fundacja Osrodka KARTA" in Warszawa? You might make inquiries with them. Here is a link to the homepage of their rather extensive website which includes photo collections relating to wartime deportations of Poles to Siberia: There is also an English version of this site: You can search their photo collection here: For example, type "Kordas" in the search window and click on "Szukaj" and you will find six images of my family in Siberia which my grandfather's nephew donated to them. (Click on each individual photo a second time to enlarge.) I have posted all six of these in my online album (pp.1-2) in the "Kresy-Siberia Group Members Photo Albums" section: set_albumName=BillKordas&page=1 You can contact "Fundacja Osrodka KARTA" here: of which there is also this English version: Perhaps another group member has also had experience donating images to the KARTA Center and can comment on donations of originals such as those in the E-bay album? Good luck securing the album and God bless you, Zbyszek. If any others have not yet realized it, you are clearly all heart and always well-intentioned, and thus, at least in my own humble opinion, a most valued, welcome and, I hope, appreciated group member. Pozdrawiam serdecznie. Bill Kordas, NH, USA * KRESY-SIBERIA GROUP = RESEARCH REMEMBRANCE RECOGNITION "Dedicated to researching, remembering and recognising the Polish citizens deported, enslaved and killed by the Soviet Union during World War Two." * Discussion site : Gallery (photos, documents) : Film and info : * To SUBSCRIBE to the discussion group, send an e-mail saying who you are and describing your interest in the group to: Kresy-Siberia-owner@... * Yahoo! Groups Links |
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Soviet defeat of Germany
Lech Lesiak
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Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on one'send quote Many WWII buffs, including moi, credit the Soviets with doing the most to defeat the Nazis. The achievement does not reflect well on the Soviets given earlier Soviet treachery, plus the fact that they didn't have much choice except to fight the Nazis full-bore after the June 41 invasion. But facts are facts. One simply has to look at the disposition of German forces on the eastern and western fronts on D-Day to appreciate how much of the brunt the Soviets were taking. The western allies unquestionably helped Uncle Joe in his fight. But without that help I would argue that the Soviets would have defeated Hitler eventually just as Napoleon was defeated. Cheers, Lech Edmonton Alberta ______________________________________________________________________ Post your free ad now! |
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Encyklopedia Kresow
Jan Prygoda
Question : At merlin I see for sale among the new books Encyklopedia Kresow. To be 100% sure, is this an
encyclopedia about Kresy (the Eastern borderlands) ? Jan Na Kresy mona spojrze z rnych perspektyw. Mona wspomina je jako krain dziecicego raju, sawi jako ziemi heroicznych czynw, wabic cudami przyrody i okraszon wspaniaymi dzieami architektury, mona wreszcie analizowa tragiczn stron ich dziejw. Zamierzeniem naszej ksiki jest przypomnienie caej zoonoci tego utraconego bezpowrotnie wiata, wiata, ktry odegra niesychanie istotn rol w ksztatowaniu rodzimej kultury i tosamoci. Zawierajca 3600 hase Encyklopedia Kresw obejmuje biogramy barwnych kresowych bohaterw, hetmanw, magnatw, ale i rnej maci awanturnikw i wichrzycieli, kreli sylwetki ludzi nauki i kultury, przypomina czasy rozkwitu (i pniejszej zagady) miast, miasteczek, dawnych majtkw i twierdz kresowych, opisuje wydarzenia i bitwy, opiewa pikno kresowych gr, rzecznych jarw i jezior, prezentuje krainy i niezwykle zoon mozaik grup etnicznych i kultur, prbujc te pokaza mao przecie znany wiat tamtejszych zwyczajw i obrzdw. Wyjtkowo cennym wzbogaceniem tekstu jest ponad 1100 rnorodnych ilustracji, na ktre skadaj si rysunki i grafiki dokumentujce wygld wietnych ongi rezydencji czy wity, fotografie i pocztwki z czasw przynalenoci tych ziem do Polski czy wreszcie wspczesne zdjcia, obrazujce stan obecny zabytkw. Oprcz nich uwag zwracaj reprodukcje dzie znakomitych mistrzw zwizanych z Kresami, portrety osobistoci, wytwory miejscowego rzemiosa, stare mapy itp. Mamy nadziej, e lektura naszej ksiki stanie si wartociow podr sentymentaln, odbywan przede wszystkim w krain narodowej pamici i mitw. Sowo wstpne Stanisaw Lem |
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Re: Comments on Bill Maher yesterday: US "helping" Eastern Europe
Fortunately or unfortunately, depending on one's point of view, the only other group that?frequently claims to have?won WWII singlehandedly are the Russians.?
Lech Lesiak wrote: --- HJ Trevelyan wrote: |
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Re: Photo Album E-bay (Again)
09.11.04, 09:45 rano EDT (USA)
Zbyszek, Eve and Group, I'll try once again posting the complete link to my Kresy-Siberia Group Members Photo Album: set_albumName=BillKordas&page=1 Should that fail again, please try: set_albumName=members and then locate page 5, and finally click on the photo for "Album: Bill Kordas" where the six Siberian photos are on pages 1-2. Re the KARTA photo search link: first you may have to click on "Archiwum Fotografii," the third of four "Archiwum" buttons below "Bazy danych zbiorów archiwalnych Osrodka," before you reach the photo collection search window in which to type, e.g. "Kordas" for those six photos. Eve, thanks for the excellent additional suggestions for alternative possibilities for archiving material. Pozdrawiam Bill Kordas, NH, USA |
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Re: Photo Album E-bay
09.11.04, 07:42 rano EDT (USA)
Zbyszek, you asked (#11652) re the Tengeru Polish African refugee camp photograph album on E-bay: "Also, does anyone know if there is a central institution that collects such old Polish historical pictures?" Are you familiar with "Fundacja Osrodka KARTA" in Warszawa? You might make inquiries with them. Here is a link to the homepage of their rather extensive website which includes photo collections relating to wartime deportations of Poles to Siberia: There is also an English version of this site: You can search their photo collection here: For example, type "Kordas" in the search window and click on "Szukaj" and you will find six images of my family in Siberia which my grandfather's nephew donated to them. (Click on each individual photo a second time to enlarge.) I have posted all six of these in my online album (pp.1-2) in the "Kresy-Siberia Group Members Photo Albums" section: set_albumName=BillKordas&page=1 You can contact "Fundacja Osrodka KARTA" here: of which there is also this English version: Perhaps another group member has also had experience donating images to the KARTA Center and can comment on donations of originals such as those in the E-bay album? Good luck securing the album and God bless you, Zbyszek. If any others have not yet realized it, you are clearly all heart and always well-intentioned, and thus, at least in my own humble opinion, a most valued, welcome and, I hope, appreciated group member. Pozdrawiam serdecznie. Bill Kordas, NH, USA |
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Re: exhibition 10th feb
Hi Hela,
I must have missed it - is the exhibition on the deportations to Siberia? One thing you might consider is including some sketches by Inka, herself the survivor. I could try to help with that - would you like me to? Also, there is a man called Telesfor Sobierajski, whose drawings we used in AFO - also have contact for him. Good luck with your project - any chance of coming down to London? Serdecznie pozdrawiam, Jagna |
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Archives, libraries to hold photos and other materials
开云体育Bill and Group,
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Thank you for letting us know about KARTA!??This is the logical?historical home?for our material, besides Hoover.
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The Newberry Library in Chicago, Illinois, USA?is world renowned?and accepts donations of everything I think.? I looked into this a?while ago.?
I was also considering Rutgers, the State University of New Jersey.
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Henry, what about the Pilsudski Institute?? Do they accept materials?
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I've read that it is important to spread around material as much as possible for researchers of the future,?so industrious folks should should place copies of their materials in?as many archives as possible in their home country and Poland.?
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Group members may also want to consider the largest collection of family history material?in the world,?the LDS, the Church of the Latter Day Saints (Mormons).??I think they accept all donations.??
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If you live in the USA, here is a link for all or most genealogy/family history libraries here:
?? There is another main archive in Poland, and I cannot remember which one, that accepts genealogies and family histories also.
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The UK?has an extensive network of very active family history societies and county archives.? Check with your local archive to see what their requirements are.
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Regards,
Eve Jankowicz
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