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Welcome Witold Szymanski from Wales

Stefan Wisniowski
 

Please welcome Witold Szymanski to the group. ?Our first member from Wales?

Witek, I have included some of your background as an introduction to the other members.
Did you get any other e-mail contacts we could connect with at the "Afrykan" reunion in Wroclaw?

And we do look forward to reading some of your memoirs if you can share them with us!

Best regards
Stefan Wisniowski


From: "Witold Szymanski"

Hallo Stefan,

I got pleasantly surprised by your email.

Indeed, I am, like yourself, a solid rock of Polish stock - flesh, blood and
soul. Osadnika syn. Both, my "Lwowianka" wife and I (Wolyniak) went to the
"Afrykan" get together in Wroclaw, September gone. From there, we went to
the Shrine of Our Lady in Czestochowa to thank Her for all the graces
bestowed upon us during the troubled years; 10.02/1940, Swierdlowska Oblast,
1942, Tehran, Karachi, Mombassa, Nairobi, Masindi 1942-1948.

[...]

Yes, please count me in. I'd be delighted to join you in the Kresy-Siberia
Group. I could contribute to the Group with my memoirs. Our daughter,
Teresa, one of our three children, convinced me to write our life story.
That's why I wrote a book called "Human Traces", which needs editing and
revising, but I did publish some extracts in different papers and magazines.
I, also, write poetry, when I get inspiration and time. I'll gladly exchange
some of my stories with those from you and others.

Count me in.

Best wishes and regards, Witold Szymanski

Witek to those from the Kresy.



Tulacze Dzieci - Exiled Children

Stefan Wisniowski
 

I have just received a copy of this very informative book from Edward
Achtel.

It focusses on the experiences of the exiled children and their dispersal
throughout Africa, New Zealand, India and Mexico.

You can see excerpts of the book at


Tulacze Dzieci - Exiled Children
Published by Fundacja ARCHIWUM FOTOGRAFICZNE TULACZY
Warszawa 1995 ISBN 83-77079-436-X

Regards,
Stefan Wisniowski


Re: Looking for Piotrowski (Pietrowski)

Stefan Wisniowski
 

You can contact the Hoover Institution at Stanford University as per the details on the website at http://www.aforgottenodyssey.com/reference.html

Our group member at the HI is Irena Czernichowska, who I will copy on this e-mail for her attention. ?She may be able to help you and may possibly have some information on "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie".

Stefan Wisniowski ?


From: "Krystyna Freiburger"
Reply-To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2003 20:47:45 -0500
To:
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Looking for...


Thank you Stefan .....yes those certificates would be my father's and mom's cousin but what do I have to do to obtain them ???
??
Were your parents deported to the same place? ?Did you already know that the Hoover Institution (Box 172) has the "Amnesty Certificate" of a Franciszek Piotrowski (surname recorded as "Pietrowski" due to inexact ?translation from Russian), son of Michal, born in 1916 in Tarnopol province? ?With sons Zbigniew born 1937 and Mieczyslaw born 1940? ?It records that he was held captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie".

A Bogumila Klosowska, daughter of Jan and born in Miechow country, Kielce province in 1922, was also captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie" (Amnesty Certificate in Hoover, Box 162). ?Perhaps a relative of your mother's (who I believe was born in Zembrocin, Miechow county on 26.6.1911)?

May be worth getting hold of those certificates if you do not have them yet....

Stefan Wisniowski

From: "zembocin"
[...] Russia July 1942 ..town of KOLBISZOWA....can anyone tell me where that is or was in Russia.


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Re: Zdzienciol

 

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Yes. Very much so.
Irene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 10:48 AM
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Zdzienciol

Irene,

Are you still looking for info on Zdzieciol located in Grodno/Nowogrodek provinces?

Tom Sajwaj

Irene Tomaszewski wrote:
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Does anyone have photos or other info on Zdzienciol (not sure of spelling). I believe it is quite close to Grodno.
?
Irene Tomaszewski
Montreal


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1863

 

Hi, group.

If someone know Russian - please see

My English is bad, but I will diligent respond to questions.

Best regards

Siergiej Korycki


Quesiton of Honor, For Your Freedom and Ours

feb10transport
 

Dear Group,
The wonderful book by authors Lynn Olson and Stanley Cloud entitled,
A Question of Honor in the US and For Your Freedom and Ours
elsewhere, can be purchased on amazon.com at significantly reduced
rates. In the US the book sells for $27+. I purchased it for
$13.00 with tax and shipping. The book is a must read and should be
given as a Christmas present to love ones. Additionally it should
be purchased and presented to local libraries for the general public
to know of the plight of Poles during WWII and how they were
cynically sold out by their allies.
Take care,
Rich Widerynski
richpna@...


Re: Zdzienciol

Tom & Glenda Sajwaj
 

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Irene,

Are you still looking for info on Zdzieciol located in Grodno/Nowogrodek provinces?

Tom Sajwaj

Irene Tomaszewski wrote:

Does anyone have photos or other info on Zdzienciol (not sure of spelling). I believe it is quite close to Grodno.
Irene Tomaszewski
Montreal


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Searching for towns/villages and Parish records.

 

Hi All!

Not everyone seems to know about the Jewishgen Shtetl(town/village) Seeker
and the Mormon, Family History websites. These are two excellent referrence
tools.

To find the location of a village/town go to
www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/ Click on 'search for towns by name'. You
can select exact spelling or soundex system(try both), and also select
individual country or all countries. When the list is brought up click on
the given co-ordinates.

The Mormon's have filmed millions of Parish records from all over the world.
These can be ordered (in person)through a local Mormon( Jesus Christ of
Latterday Saints) Church, Family History Library, and you can arrange to go
and view/search them. To find if they have filmed in the known Parish go to
www.familysearch.org Select 'search' then 'Family History Library
Catalogue'. Then go on to 'Place Search' to find if the Parish has been
filmed. If it has, details of some villages/towns covered are given.

Good Luck to everyone searching these for the first time.

Ken Fedzin.


Re: Query on Bakker/Bekker

 

Hi Tony,
?
I will try and get the name for you from my mum. The correct spelling is Bekker, the daughter's name is Katrina and Billy is Katrina's husband. Will get the infor when next I speak to my mum. Have a good weekend.
?
Anna

Tony Golinski wrote:
I am looking for any Bakker/Bekker surnames in relation to my family,
Golinski.
My Grandmother - Katarzyna Golinski - remarried in Africa, possibly
Rhodesia, & all we know is that her second husband's surname was
Bakker or Bekker, & his christian name may have been Billy. They had
a daughter (also called Katarzyna), but I have no further information
at this time.
Are there any members able to help?

Regards

Tony Golinski



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Re: Looking for...

Stefan Wisniowski
 

Hi Ken,
Good news: ?full info available at http://www.aforgottenodyssey.com/mainref.html#r3
Bad news: Only 13,500 certificates and 12,000 written testimonies (some overlapping). ?I do not believe they have any on "Fedzin"

Stefan WIsniowski


From: "Ken Fedzin"
[...] interested in the comments you made about the Hoover Institution holding Amnesty Certificates. Do they have these for most families/individuals who were deported to, and released from, Siberia? I've no idea where my father's family were sent to. Perhaps these could tell me and how can copies be obtained.
Regards, Ken Fedzin.


Re: Looking for...

 

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Hi Stefan!
?
I'd already referred Krystyna to the ShtetlSeeker, but I read your response to her and was interested in the comments you made about the Hoover Institution holding Amnesty Certificates. Do they have these for most families/individuals who were deported to, and released from, Siberia? I've no idea where my father's family were sent to. Perhaps these could tell me and how can?copies be obtained.
?
Regards, Ken Fedzin.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Wisniowski [mailto:swisniowski@...]
Sent: 01 November 2003 11:02
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Looking for...

Krystyna

If you go to http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm and plug in KOLBISZOWA and select Russia you get over 20 potential candidates. ?However, these 2 seem more likely given the spelling and pronounciation:

KOLBYCHEVO ???54.24 N. 127.11 E. ?Russia ????3286.2 miles NE of Moscow
KOLBYSHEVO ? ???56.27 N. 74.40 ?E. ?Russia ????1411.5 miles ENE of Moscow

and maybe CHALBYSHEVO ???58.04 N. 91.54 E ????Russia ????1998.1 miles ENE of Moscow

Did your family have any documents from the British or Polish forces that might narrow down the region?

On the other hand, by July 1942 she would have already been released under the 1941 Sikorski-Majsky ?agreement and this could well have been a place in transit. ?For clues on the original holding place, it is worth looking for other clues. ?

Were your parents deported to the same place? ?Did you already know that the Hoover Institution (Box 172) has the "Amnesty Certificate" of a Franciszek Piotrowski (surname recorded as "Pietrowski" due to inexact ?translation from Russian), son of Michal, born in 1916 in Tarnopol province? ?With sons Zbigniew born 1937 and Mieczyslaw born 1940? ?It records that he was held captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie".

A Bogumila Klosowska, daughter of Jan and born in Miechow country, Kielce province in 1922, was also captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie" (Amnesty Certificate in Hoover, Box 162). ?Perhaps a relative of your mother's (who I believe was born in Zembrocin, Miechow county on 26.6.1911)?

May be worth getting hold of those certificates if you do not have them yet....

Stefan Wisniowski

From: "zembocin"
[...] Russia July 1942 ..town of KOLBISZOWA....can anyone tell me where that is or was in Russia.


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1863 uprising

Stefan Wisniowski
 

My great-grandfather was deported after the 1863 uprising as well, and their land near Konin was seized by the Russians. ?Seems to run in the family...
Stefan Wisniowski
Sydney Australia


From: b.davoust@...
[...] My great-great-grandfather too was deported after the 1863 uprising, and their land
near Lublin was seized. ?But I have not been able to figure out how to find out any
further information. ?Do you have any suggestions?
Barbara Davoust
Toulouse, France


Re: Query on Bakker/Bekker

Stefan Wisniowski
 

Bert said no he is no relation, and it is likely to be "Bekker?.
Stefan Wisniowski


From: "Vantom"
Tony, I have noticed that there is a Bert Bakker posting on this site. ?Perhaps he is somebody you are looking for. ?Hope you find what your looking for.
Best wishes
Vanessa Tomecki

[...] we know is that her second husband's surname was
Bakker or Bekker, & his christian name may have been Billy. [...]
Tony Golinski


British Post delays

Stefan Wisniowski
 

Linder sends this update in reference to requests to the UK Minsitry of Defense.

----------
From: "ladbrooke"

URGENT MESSAGE TO GO ON K-S PLEASE

NO POST MOVING IN UK, because of 'union strike' about wages. Post collection boxes sealed by Post Office for the first time in 20 years. Nothing out of/into UK - don't send anything, don't expect any replies group!
Usually, 4-6 weeks to clear backlog when over, but we just don't know about this time. Christmas coming too!
Still, on the bright side, we needn't buy Xmas card stamps..

Linder


New file uploaded to Kresy-Siberia

 

Hello,

This email message is a notification to let you know that
a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the Kresy-Siberia
group.

File : /MOD Kinship form 1000.jpg
Uploaded by : skwisniowski <swisniowski@...>
Description : Next of Kin form required by the UK Ministry of Defense to allow release of Polish Army military service records

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Re: Looking for...

Stefan Wisniowski
 

Krystyna

If you go to http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm and plug in KOLBISZOWA and select Russia you get over 20 potential candidates. ?However, these 2 seem more likely given the spelling and pronounciation:

KOLBYCHEVO ???54.24 N. 127.11 E. ?Russia ????3286.2 miles NE of Moscow
KOLBYSHEVO ? ???56.27 N. 74.40 ?E. ?Russia ????1411.5 miles ENE of Moscow

and maybe CHALBYSHEVO ???58.04 N. 91.54 E ????Russia ????1998.1 miles ENE of Moscow

Did your family have any documents from the British or Polish forces that might narrow down the region?

On the other hand, by July 1942 she would have already been released under the 1941 Sikorski-Majsky ?agreement and this could well have been a place in transit. ?For clues on the original holding place, it is worth looking for other clues. ?

Were your parents deported to the same place? ?Did you already know that the Hoover Institution (Box 172) has the "Amnesty Certificate" of a Franciszek Piotrowski (surname recorded as "Pietrowski" due to inexact ?translation from Russian), son of Michal, born in 1916 in Tarnopol province? ?With sons Zbigniew born 1937 and Mieczyslaw born 1940? ?It records that he was held captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie".

A Bogumila Klosowska, daughter of Jan and born in Miechow country, Kielce province in 1922, was also captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie" (Amnesty Certificate in Hoover, Box 162). ?Perhaps a relative of your mother's (who I believe was born in Zembrocin, Miechow county on 26.6.1911)?

May be worth getting hold of those certificates if you do not have them yet....

Stefan Wisniowski


From: "zembocin"
[...] Russia July 1942 ..town of KOLBISZOWA....can anyone tell me where that is or was in Russia.


Recent Submissions to the Kresy-Siberia Memorial Wall

 

Dear Group:

I would like to apologize for the September and October submissions not being placed on the Wall as yet.? Halina and I were basically on vacation in September.? At the beginning of October my computer had to be sent for service and was just returned to me this week.? Yesterday when I began adding two months of submissions, I realized there is a problem which will be taken care of, but it may take time.? I ask that all who recently submitted names to please bear with me.? I will inform you and the Group as soon as the names are online and viewable.

We will still be accepting new submissions during this hopefully short "down" time, so please do not hesitate to send in new names.? As usual, the Memorial Wall may be viewed here:



Please send submissions to:? ksmemorialwall@...

Eve Jankowicz


Re: Looking for...

 

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Thank you Stefan .....yes those certificates would be my father's and mom's cousin but what do I have to do to obtain them ???
?


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Were your parents deported to the same place? ?Did you already know that the Hoover Institution (Box 172) has the "Amnesty Certificate" of a Franciszek Piotrowski (surname recorded as "Pietrowski" due to inexact ?translation from Russian), son of Michal, born in 1916 in Tarnopol province? ?With sons Zbigniew born 1937 and Mieczyslaw born 1940? ?It records that he was held captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie".

A Bogumila Klosowska, daughter of Jan and born in Miechow country, Kielce province in 1922, was also captive at "Priluzskoie Raionnoie Otdelenie" (Amnesty Certificate in Hoover, Box 162). ?Perhaps a relative of your mother's (who I believe was born in Zembrocin, Miechow county on 26.6.1911)?

May be worth getting hold of those certificates if you do not have them yet....

Stefan Wisniowski

From: "zembocin"
[...] Russia July 1942 ..town of KOLBISZOWA....can anyone tell me where that is or was in Russia.


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Losice.

Viktor Lewin
 

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??? Greetings,
??????? I need help in the compilation of photos and other information about the Polish town of Losice. I am assisting in the development of a Losice website at: ?which is being done in conjunction with the translation of the Yizkor Book, the reclamation of gravestones and a rededication of the site of the Jewish cemetery in Losice.
?????? Thank you. Viktor Lewin( viklewin@... ).


Dawidkowce village.

 

Hi All!

Does anyone have any info, maps or photo's of the village of Dawidkowce. It
was a few miles South East of Czortkow in the Tarnopol region. My father was
born there.

Thanks, Ken.