The only information my living relatives have is that last contact
with Piotr was just as the war ended (1944). Piotr was in
Archangelsk at the time. We don't know what became of him after that.

My g-grandfather's were living in Kremenczuki, which was in the USSR
at the time. Formerly Poland until 1793. I was told they were sought
after because they were a wealthy Polish family living in Russia and
had close ties with the Potocki family. When the Potocki's fled from
Antoniny to their home in Poland, my family went with them and then
some of my family returned to Russia (why??) and resided in Irpin
where my other g-grandfather was arrested (1939). They lived there
until they were taken by the Germans in 1941.

Best regards,
Angie

--- In Kresy-Siberia@..., Stefan Wisniowski
<swisniowski@p...> wrote:

Angie
Regarding your grandfather's brother Piotr, you say he was in

contact with

your grandfather shortly AFTER the war, but also that his last

known

whereabouts were in Archangelsk. Do you know if he ever left

Russia? Where

was he after the war?

If he was still in Russia after the 1941 amnesty, it is possible

that

Alexander Guryanov at the Memorial Society in Moscow can check for

any

information in the former NKVD archives in Archangelsk - see

details at

One word of

warning,

Alexander has been out of circulation for several months, and

there may be a

long delay in hearing back from him. However, it is worth a try.

Let us

know how you make out. The other place worth checking is, of

course, with

the Ministry of Defense in case he made it to Anders' Army.

However, if Piotr made it out of Russia, where was he after the

war - in

Poland?

By the way, do you know how it is that your grandfathers, living

in Poland,

were arrested by the Soviets BEFORE the war? Were they across the

border in

the USSR for some reason?

Regards
Stefan Wisniowski

From: "moscickijordan" <ajordan1@h...>
[...] My grandfather was born in 1907. He had two brothers -

Leonard

(b:1899)and Piotr (b:1906), and a sister Janina (b:1901)

Between the years 1937 - 1939 both my great-grandfathers were

arrested by

the Soviets and deported to Siberia, where they died. [...]. My
grandfather's sister emigrated to France and my grandfather to

Canada. His

two brothers were last heard from just after the war, but due to

fear of the

communists finding them, never resumed contact. [...] My mission

now is to

find the other brother Piotr Moscicki and/or his family. His last

known

whereabouts was Archangelsk, Russia. He could have emigrated

anywhere.

I see that we have a few individuals from Poland on our list. I was

wondering if they could see if there are any HERCUNS listed in phone
book and could send their addresses&#92;Thanks in advance for your help

Michelle (Hercun) Moffatt






Oszmiana Oshmyany (Belarus) pre 1939

Hi Friend
I just added a photo album Oszmiana Oshmyany (Belarus) pre 1939 on
website AFO at


"Alfabet Polski" - Poland Photos & Maps pre-1945

Tomek Wisniewski
Bialystok Poland

p.s. Inform others Oszmiany'ers.

I also recommend Sarner's book for anyone interested in this
history. A good part of the work is devoted to the Jews in Anders
Army and Sarner does a great job in providing an objective
viewpoint. Sarner interviewed many people and reviewed thousands of
documents in London and Washington D.C.


Here are some quotes fronm his book I found interesting:

Page 95: "Anders claimed that he refused a Soviet demand to expel
the Jews from the army and asserted that no one was purged from the
army on religious grounds. To support his claim, he cited
statistics of soldiers expelled between July 1,1942 and the end of
the evacuation on Septmeber 1, 1942: 188 Roman Catholics, 125 Jews,
13 Greek Catholics and 24 others. There are documents confirming
his claim. When the Soviets asked him to hand over ten Jews who had
left with the first evacuation (they wanted to put them on trial on
the charge that they were Soviet citizens who had illegally left the
USSR) Anders did not comply. According to a marginal note on a
report of the United Sates Army Counter Intelligence Service 'the
USSR permitted evacuation of Jews only after repeated intervention
of General Anders."

Page 100: "According to a historian who specialized in Polish-Jewish
relations during the war, David Engel, anti-Jewsih restrictions
during the evacuation were forced on Anders by the British and the
Soviets."

Page 138: "The Polish refusal to persecute Jewish deserters made it
impossible for the British to catch them since the deserters were
under the jurisdiction of the Polish Army and were not violating
British law except for the extent that they could have been in
Palestine illegally...Anders refused to budge on this issue in spite
of British pressure. Was this due to his identification of his own
aspirations for restoring his Polish homeland with Jewish
aspirations to create their homeland in Palestine? None of the
numerous books about the formation of the Israeli Army mentions that
Israel received almost half a brigade of trained soldiers, thanks to
General Anders."

Page 141: "Another possible explanation for Jewish desertions would
be Polish anti-Semitism. The difficulty lies in the fact that it is
impossible to measure the level of anit-Semitism in the II Polish
Corps. Those who claimed they deserted because of anti-Semitism
have every incentive to exxagerate its intensity. A U.S. Army
intelligence report from November of 1943 attributed the desertions
of Jews from the Second Corps to their brutal treatment, but
according to another undated report, 'the allegations of anti-
Semitism in the Polish Army, which are being spread, are grossly
exaggerated to say the least, and are most unfair to the Polish
soldier."

Azrieli's comment that Anders was a ferocious antisemite is
ridiculous.

--- In Kresy-Siberia@..., Stefan Wisniowski
<swisniowski@p...> wrote:

Finally, historian Harvey Sarner's 1997 book "General Anders and

the

Soldiers of the Second Polish Corps" presents a rich source of

information

and evidence providing a balanced examination of this issue.

Further to Romuald's comment on Menachem Begin's departure from the Polish
Army, Harvey Sarner had this to say (Sarner, p.iii):

"Another example that demonstrates that oral testimony is at least as
valuable as written testimony involves the little-known fact that Menachem
Begin first came to Palestine as a soldier in Anders' Polish Army. Begin
refused to desert on the grounds that a deserter could not lead the Irgun.
He was released form the army with a honorable discharge. The British were
upset about Anders' cooperating with Jewish interests so a document was put
in the Polish Army files indicating that Begin was given an extended leave
but did not return, which made him a deserter. I showed the document to
Merek Kahan, another Irgun leader, who immediately characterized the
document as false. He laughed as he confessed that he was the author of the
forged document."

Incidentally, a search on the web for Begin's biography mentions all sorts
of variations on how he came to get out of Russia, left the Polish Army and
become the leader of the Irgun. They can't all be true!

Stefan Wisniowski

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Please welcome Stephen Wierzbicki to the group.

Stephen can you tell us a little more about your father's and his family's ?history? ?This may help us to help you to make connections you seek. ?For example, the following people have information on them on file in the Hoover Institute, Anders Collection:

Wierzbicka, Irena (Brzesc nad Bugiem, Polesie)
Wierzbicka, Wanda (Brzesc nad Bugiem, Polesie)
Wierzbicki, Aleksander (Lachowo)
Wierzbicki, Aleksander (Riga)
Wierzbicki, Franciszek (Bielsk Podlaski, Bialystok)
Wierzbicki, Franciszek (Postawy, Wilno)
Wierzbicki, Franciszek (Swieciany, Wilno)
Wierzbicki, Hieronim (Oszmiana, Wilno)
Wierzbicki, Jan (Czortków, Tarnopol)
Wierzbicki, Jan (Nieswiez, Nowogrodek)
Wierzbicki, Józef (Nieswiez, Nowogrodek)
Wierzbicki, Julian (Wilno, Wilno)
Wierzbicki, Kazimierz (Zydaczów, Stanislawow)
Wierzbicki, Stanislaw (Slonim, Nowogrodek)
Wierzbicki, Zygmunt (Swieciany, Wilno)

Any familiar names or places?

Regards
Stefan Wisniowski
Sydney Australia
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> From: Stephen Wierzbicki
> Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 12:25:53 +0100 (BST)
> To: Kresy-Siberia-owner@...
> Subject: Interested in Joining your site
>
> Hi,
> I am Stephen Wierzbicki, I live in UK and am trying to
> piece together my fathers involvement in the Second
> World War. I came across your site on Google while
> looking for the Sikorski Institute. I did not know
> that information on Polish prison camps in Russia were
> available and so am now starting to research into
> them. I believe that your site and the
> knowledge/experience you and your members have could
> be of great use to finding out baout my late fathers
> past.
> Thank you for your help
>
> Regards
>
> Stephen Wierzbicki
>

KRYMINA? ZA ...WALK? Z KORUPCJ?...

W czasie swojej krótkiej pracy w administracji
publicznej, podj??em prób? walki z korupcj?,
konkretnie z aferami nieruchomo?ciowymi z udzia?em
prominentnych polityków z lewej, ale tak?e i ?prawej?
strony. Jedn? z "tropionych" przeze mnie i mój
wydzia? afer by?a sprawa Spó?dzielni "D?bina".
Spóldzielnia "Debina", do której nalez? mi?dzy innymi
Miller, Jaskiernia i Tober., dzieki protekcji wysokich
urzedników URM, zalatwili sobie bez przetargu grunt
przy ul. Nowoursynowskiej i Rosola. Warunkiem
zwolnienia z przetargu bylo przyjecie okreslonej
ilosci kandydatów z "zamrazarki"(listy posiadaczy
wk?adów na ksi??eczkach mieszkaniowych). Ten przepis
tzw. "ustawy Glapińskiego" by? sam w sobie
kontrowersyjny, umo?liwiaj?c protekcyjne nabywanie
gruntów za bezcen. Ale SM "D?bina" nawet warunków
tej ustawy nie spelni?a! Nie przyj?li ani jednej
osoby z "zamra?arki"!
Kiedy na pocz.1996r. "ustawa Glapinskiego" przestala
juz obowiazywac, stwierdzili jednak, ze wzieli ...za
malo. Aby wiec ominac prawo, zwiekszyli sobie teren o
prawie 3 hektary, na podstawie wydanego przez wojewode
Jastrzebskiego "Komunikatu", nie majacego zadnych
podstaw prawnych.... Prokuratura, za któr? wykonali?my
90% pracy, wszcz??a post?powanie, ale w końcu je
umorzy?a, stwierdzaj?c, ?e s? nieprawid?owo?ci, ale
przest?pstwa nie by?o...Z?odzieje mieszkaj? na
kradzionym gruncie do dzisiaj. Jak mi wiadomo z innych
?róde? - lew? kas? na budow? osiedla da? Gudzowaty
(chocia? akurat tego w pe?ni nie mog? potwierdzi?, bo
t? spraw? si? nie zajmowa?em)
Jako cz?owiek uparty, swoj? walk?, kontynuowa?em tak?e
po odej?ciu z administracji, mi?dzy innymi wykonuj?c
na budynku Kancelarii Premiera napis ?Miller mieszka
na kradzionym?. Zosta?em za to ukarany grzywn?, a
poniewa? jej nie zap?aci?em(bo by?aby to moim zdaniem
uleg?o?? wobec aferzystów) , zamieniono mi j? na 20
dni aresztu. No có?, siedzia?em ju? kilka razy za
ró?ne swoje akcje. Posiedz? i teraz. Mam nadziej?, ?e
tym razem stan? o?ci? w gardle temu z?odziejskiemu
systemowi!
Nie mo?na spokojnie patrze? na to co si? dzieje w
naszym kraju. Mówi? niektórzy - ?korupcja jest na
ca?ym ?wiecie?. To prawda, ale jedynie w niektórych
krajach przyjmuje ona takie rozmiary jak w
postkomunistycznej Polsce, której najbardziej
adekwatn? nazw? by?aby ?Polska Republika Bananowa?.
Mo?na u nas wr?cz postawi? znak równo?ci mi?dzy
polityk?
a korupcj?. Powoduje to nie tylko polityczn?, moraln?
ale w konsekwencji tak?e gospodarcz? degeneracj?
naszego kraju. Ja nie mam zamiaru patrze? na to
oboj?tnie i nie przestraszy mnie gro?ba pój?cia do
krymina?u!
Wszystkich, którym nie jest oboj?tna przysz?o??
naszego kraju, zapraszam do odprowadzenia mnie do
aresztu w dniu 13 pa?dziernika o godz. 13.00 sprzed
gmachu gdańskiego s?du, ul. Nowe Ogrody 30.

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Julek

I want to add to the discussion on the subject matter. There was no anti-semitism in the 2-nd Polish Corps. In support of this statement I would like to mention two of my friends, both Jews, who were in my regiment, we were together at the Cadet -Officers School (Szkola Podchorazych), they graduated together wit the rest of us, they were decorated with the Krzyz Walecznych, later, they were commissioned and promoted to the rank of captain. So, they were treated as anybody else.
When we were in Palestine, our regiment, the 12 Podolski Lancers Regiment, was the reconnaissance regiment of the Corps. Therefore, we had the orchestra of the Corps. At that time many Jews deserted. One of them was Mr. Begin, who later became prime minister of Israel. Gen. Anders issued an order that the deserters should not be purued, understanding that nationality cannot be forced on an individual.
Romuald E. Lipinski
Annandale, Virginia, USA

Though this is part of a larger conversation on the relations between Poles and Jews during the war, it is certainly relevant to understanding the plight of the Polish citizens of all religions and ethnic nationalities deported to the USSR and their subsequent experiences.

As some of our members wrote, it is important to distinguish between the actions of individuals and the policies of a group or organisation. ?Without denying that Jews may have been abused by individual soldiers, to speak of the Anders Army as "anti-Semitic" because of the actions of some individual soldiers is simply wrong. ?However, it is also wrong to to ignore both the phenomenon of anti-Semitism and the phenomenon of false accusations of anti-Semitism.

The policy of the Polish Government and Army was exemplified by this order from General Sikorski on 5 August 1940: ?"my principle is that a Polish soldier now fighting for the common cause has thus given sufficient evidence that he is a Pole irrespective of his origin and religion. ?I strictly forbid the showing to soldiers of Jewish faith any unfriendliness, through contemptuous remarks humiliating to human dignity... all such offenses will be severely punished." [quoted in Harvey Sarner's book, p.141-142]. ?Also, "Anders issued an order dated November 14, 1941 stating that there shall not be any religious or ethnic discrimination in the army" [Sarner, p.71]

Here is an account by General Anders himself, in his book "An Army in Exile" (pages 112-113) published in 1949: ?"Thus, at long last, my efforts to obtain the consent of the N.K.V.D. to the evacuation and departure from Russia of 70,000 Poles had borne fruit. ?The Russians wanted to exclude from those allowed to leave the Ukrainians, White Ruthenians [Belorussians S.W.] ?and, especially, the Jews in our ranks. ?Soviet perfidy in the case of the Jews was quite plain. ??They told the Jews that the Polish authorities objected to their evacuation, but at the same time the Polish army was told not to admit any Jewish civilians to the convoys. ?On August 3 I had a conference with Jewish representatives and informed them of the Soviet Government's decision that only those Jewish families could be evacuated that had members on active service in the Polish army. ?Even that concession was made only after I personally intervened. ?No other Polish citizens of Jewish origin were allowed to leave. ?I stress these facts as the Bolsheviks, and also some Jewish circles, afterwards tried to present the whole affair as proof of anti-Semitic feelings. ?I still have in my possession many letters from Rabbis and eminent Jews, and from simple Polish citizens of Jewish extraction, thanking me for saving their lives by evacuating them from Soviet Russia. ?About 4000 Jews left Russia with the Polish army."

Despite the official policies of the Polish Government and Army, there is no doubt that there were individuals in the Polish army who gave its Jewish soldiers a bad time. ?I would like to share one unfortunate example of how such bitter but isolated personal experiences can lead to an entire organisation, its leader (General Anders) and even an entire nation being wrongfully typecast and vilified as anti-Semitic.

In 2001, Yad Vashem published "One Step Ahead", the memoirs of David J Azrieli (Azrylewicz). ?Azrieli is an architect, real-estate developer and philanthropist ?- much-honoured and acclaimed in Canada, the US and Israel - arguably one of the wealthiest and most influential veterans of Anders Army living today. ?In his book, Azrieli's recounts (on pages 91-95) ?his enlistment in the Polish Army in the USSR at the age of 19, followed by his desertion to Palestine shortly after the army's evacuation to Iran:

"During this time, the Polish Anders' army was recruiting men to fight alongside the Allied forces in the west. ?Acceptance into this army was viewed as a one-way ticket out of Russia, but most Polish men available for recruitment were in poor physical health or were still recovering from the harsh living conditions in Siberia. ?Polish-Jewish boys were almost always rejected by the Anders' army - not only because of their poor health, but also because Anders was a ferocious antisemite... in my wildest dreams I did not expect the Anders' antisemitic army recruiters to accept me..."

"In the army, I met three other Jewish boys in my unit... Adam and I became particularly close friends and, together, we faced the rampant antisemitism that we encountered in the army. ?We quickly learned to look after each other in the hostile environment. ?We learned to sleep in our tent, back to back, with a loaded gun between us. ?Were were more fearful of the threat the other soldiers posed to us than of the threat of battle, and we knew we had to withstand the antisemitism in order to successfully use the army to transport us out of Russia and toward Palestine."

"Adam and I were regularly humiliated or given the most demeaning duties in our unit. ?It was common for an officer to order us to clean the latrines and, during morning roll call, the sergeant would often untie my boots and step on my feet, or swear at me in front of the entire regiment. ?One day the sergeant decided to play a game with Adam and me. ?He ordered us to run at his command and then, at another command, to sit on the ground and not move..."

"In spite of all this treatment, ?Adam and I persevered and... we would frequently perform our duties better than the others, but this only incited the people in command to humiliate us more. ?We were also obviously better educated than most of the other boys."

"My commitment to Zionism also became crystallized during those months in the Polish military. ?General Anders was supported by the British government and the Allied forces. ?Publicly, Anders claimed that Jews were accepted and treated fairly in his army but, privately, he encouraged antisemitic behaviour. ?This only reinforced my belief that the Jews needed and independent homeland."

"The most blatant antisemitic experience I had was one afternoon, as I was sitting outside my tent in a rare relaxing moment. ?An officer suddenly walked up to me and started calling me derogatory names, including "dirty Jew". ?I was so incensed that I disregarded protocol, which prohibited a soldier from talking back to someone of superior rank, and I called him a "dirty Pole". ?This angry exchange culminated with the officer physically attacking me and threatening me with a dishonorable discharge. ?While I was not worried about the stigma of being discharged, I was extremely concerned about the effect such a ?discharge would have on my plans to leave Russia. ?When I realized that this man could ruin everything for me, I calmed down and silently vowed to do everything in my power to persevere until I could make my escape and reach Palestine."

Azrieli goes on to recount how he deserted from the Polish Army to go to Palestine at the the first opportunity he had. ?It is worth mentioning that Azrieli's account would be coloured by his wartime experiences. ?In the prologue to his book (page 15-16) Azrieli declares "I also make no apologies for the anger I feel toward the Polish people who participated in destroying millions of Jewish lives. ?Hitler's extermination camps could not have existed on Polish soil without a population willing to live next door... ever since the war I have associated the Polish language with sheer hatred and destruction."

It is unfortunate that sentiments such as Azrieli's toward their fellow Polish citizens across this religious and ethnic divide can still be heard from others in both the Polish and the Jewish communities.

Finally, historian Harvey Sarner's 1997 book "General Anders and the Soldiers of the Second Polish Corps" presents a rich source of information and evidence providing a balanced examination of this issue. ?It is too extensive to be quoted here at length, but in due course I may provide some excerpts from his book as they may illuminate this discussion. ?However, there are two interesting (and little-known?) footnotes to this history regarding the presence of Jews in Anders Army that I would like to quote here: ?
"Another issue that contributed to the deterioration of Polish-Soviet relations was the Soviet refusal to allow Polish citizens who had been drafted in to the Red Army to transfer into Anders' Army.... they continued however to draft "former Polish citizens" who were not Polish by nationality. ?By November 1942 there were 100,000 Polish Jews serving in Soviet labour battalions.... who the Soviets wouldn't release because they were "minorities" [p.52]
"A defacto Jewish unit (technically the 9th Regiment of the 8th Division), in the Polish Army was created at Koltubanka in the USSR and continued for several months during the winter of 1941-1942. ?The unit was part of the 8th Division which was one of the first to participate in the evacuation and one of the first ot be disbanded when the army was reorganized. ?Estimates of the number of Jewish soldiers at Koltubanka range from 600 to 900. ?Anders was pressured from two sides. ?The Irgun [Jewish independence fighters S.W.] ?(Merek Kahan) wanted an identifiable Jewish Unit and the opposition (Rabbi Rosengarten, among others) saw a Jewish unit as a ghetto... Koltubanka was a compromise. ?It was not called a Jewish unit and there were non-Jews scattered through the ranks, but defacto it was a Jewish unit." [Sarner, p.64-65]

Stefan Wisniowski
Sydney Australia

Barb

Thank you for sharing your poem. Can we post it on our website?

It does make you stop and think about our families' individual miracles of
survival...

Stefan Wisniowski

Angie
Regarding your grandfather's brother Piotr, you say he was in contact with your grandfather shortly AFTER the war, but also that his last known whereabouts were in Archangelsk. ?Do you know if he ever left Russia? ?Where was he after the war?

If he was still in Russia after the 1941 amnesty, it is possible that Alexander Guryanov at the Memorial Society in Moscow can check for any information in the former NKVD archives in Archangelsk - see details at http://www.aforgottenodyssey.com/reference.html ?One word of warning, Alexander has been out of circulation for several months, and there may be a long delay in hearing back from him. ?However, it is worth a try. ?Let us know how you make out. ?The other place worth checking is, of course, with the Ministry of Defense in case he made it to Anders' Army.

However, if Piotr made it out of Russia, where was he after the war - in Poland?

By the way, do you know how it is that your grandfathers, living in Poland, were arrested by the Soviets BEFORE the war? ?Were they across the border in the USSR for some reason?

Regards
Stefan Wisniowski

Please welcome Karen Williamson to the group. ?

Karen, I am sure that you will learn a lot by going back to the archive messages of the group, as well as by checking out the links on our webpages. ?I would encourage you to get your father and your uncle to record or write down their experiences for posterity. ?You can see examples of the personal testimonies of some of our group members at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Kresy-Siberia/files/

You should also be able to get some family history information for your research ?from your grandfather's Anders Army files by writing to the Ministry of Defense, which holds all the records of the Polish armed forces in exile. ?Find instructions on our website at http://www.aforgottenodyssey.com/reference.html

Finally, we invite you to commemorate all those members of your family who suffered at the hands of the Soviets during the war. ?Please visit ?the Memorial Wall at http://www.aforgottenodyssey.com/memorial to do so.

Regards
Stefan Wisniowski ?

Hi Andy

The three books I mentioned tell one side of the story. Based on the
comments yesterday I now want to read the accounts of men
who served in the Polish Army. In particular the book by Sarner.

Barney Dombrowski


















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s.com, Andy Golebiowski <andywbuffalo@y...> wrote:

Dear Barney,
I also think that these matters should be discussed in
a public forum, in a responsible and open manner.

Thank you for clarifying your original message. I did
not make the connection between the books and your
statement about the treatement of Jews in Anders Army.

Andy Golebiowski
Buffalo, NY
USA

Message: 16
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 02:11:40 -0000
From: "berndd11222" <berndd11222@y...>
Subject: Re: Request for information on Jews in
Anders Army

This is the text of the message I originaly posted.

Hi Bob,

There are three books that I can recommend

Facing a Holocaust by David Engel

In the Shadow of Auschwitz by David Engel

Unequal Victims by Israel Gutman

The Jews had a tough time in the Anders army. Most
were subject to anti-semetic abuse and left.

Barney Dombrowski

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Andy

The three books I mentioned cite numerous examples of
anti-semitism in the Polish Army in the west.

The two books by Engel cover the history the Polish
Government in London policy toward the Jews.
According to Engel the London Poles
did little or nothing to deal with the problem of
anti-semitism in the Polish Army.

The book Unequal Victims covers the issue of the
relations between Poles and Jews during the war. It
is a scathing expose of anti-semitsim in wartime
Poland.

The comments I made last night were based on the
accounts of ant-semitism detailed in these books. I
believe that this issue should be discussed in a
public forum.
Barney Dombrowski

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I would like to introduce myself to the group and give a brief
history of my grandparents whom I am researching.

My name is Angie Jordan. My grandfather (Julian) and grandmother
(Zofia) MOSCICKI emigrated to Canada in 1951 after WWII. I am
researching the surnames: MOSCICKI, BACZYNSKI, WROBLEWSKI,
WATARZYNSKI (changed from WATAHA OR VATAHA), and GIELEWSKI.

My family came from a small village called Kremenczuki/Kremenchuki,
located approximately 2kms East of Antoniny and 5kms West of
Starokonstantinov, in former Poland, now Ukraine.

My grandfather was born in 1907. He had two brothers - Leonard
(b:1899)and Piotr (b:1906), and a sister Janina (b:1901)

Between the years 1937 - 1939 both my great-grandfathers were
arrested by the Soviets and deported to Siberia, where they died.
Prior to being arrested they, as well as my grandfather worked for
Count Potocki of Antoniny. After the Soviets invaded, both my family
and the Potocki's fled.

In 1941 my family was deported to Germany and remained there first
in civilian camps, later in DP camps until 1951. My grandfather's
sister emigrated to France and my grandfather to Canada. His two
brothers were last heard from just after the war, but due to fear of
the communists finding them, never resumed contact.

The great news is, since posting on various websites, a few months
ago, my grandfather's brother's (Leonard) family saw my postings and
thankfully our families were reunited, but sadly too late for the
brothers, as both have passed. It turns out my grandfathers sister
and her brother were living just 50kms from one another all those
years and never knew it.

My mission now is to find the other brother Piotr Moscicki and/or
his family. His last known whereabouts was Archangelsk, Russia. He
could have emigrated anywhere.

I will end now, and I must say this is a wonderful group and have
enjoyed all your stories and wish everyone luck in your research.

--- In Kresy-Siberia@..., Stefan Wisniowski
<swisniowski@p...> wrote:

Please welcome Teresa Basinski Eckford to the group.

Stefan,

Thanks for the welcome :-)

Teresa thank you for your kind words.

Is there any possibility of your late uncle's dictated memoirs being
transcribed and shared?

I would have to talk to my aunt about that. My uncle was a very
private person. Am not certain how he'd feel about it. I could
probably share a few sections. I hope to see her in a few weeks.

I am not sure which group in Canberra your late uncle was with.

Perhaps one

of our long-time Polonia members in Australia will recognise the
connection...

I will have to check and see if I can find out which one it is.

Thanks again for the welcome :-)

Teresa

Best regards,
Stefan Wisniowski
Sydney Australia