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Introducing new member Barbara Ryszkowska from London England

Helen Bitner
 

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?Dear group
Please welcome new member Barbara who is also known as Barbara Alison ?songwriter ?(
Web Page:?)
Barbara's ?father's name was Wladyslaw Ryszkowski. He was living in Marcinkance, Nr Grodno, when WW2 broke out.? He was deported to Siberia in February 1940 with his father Mieczyslaw, his mother Waclawa and his two brothers Edmund and Czeslaw. Mieczyslaw ? died of typhoid (tyfus plamisty), but Waclawa with her three sons enlisted with the Polish Army and ?managed to get out of Siberia. ?Wladyslaw and Czeslaw took part in the Normandy Campaign with the Polish 1st Armoured Division, and Edmund took part in the Battle of Monte Cassino with the 2nd Corps.
Barbara's mother Walentyna (nee Misiewicz) came from a village called Niemilja in Wolyn.? Her father Felicjan and two sisters (Maria & Zofia) were murdered by the Ukrainian nationalists. Walentyna ?survived with her mother Florentyna and two younger sisters (Alina & Danuta).? They were deported by the Germans to Austria, then transferred for a short time to Germany, and finally ended up in Italy where Walentyna joined the Polish Army and worked in a military hospital. ?
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Barbara is now writing about her parents' experiences (based on their narratives) as a legacy to younger members of the family, and ?she hopes that by joining the Kresy-Siberia group she will be able to get some additional information to help me with her writing.

Thank you Barbara for your kind donation and I wish you lots of success in your writing.?
Kind regards
Helen Bitner
Colchester UK
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Liczkowce

 

Hi Barry!
Liczkowce? - 10 km to the Nord from town Husiatyn.

Now Liczkowce is §­§Ú§é§Ü¾±§Ó§è¾± or §­§Ú§é§Ü§Ú§Ó§è§í, Tarnopol oblast, Ukraine. Beautiful church XVIII century.?

Stan from M.


From: barry5559
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 5:44 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Liczkowce

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Dear Group, I am the new boy on the block. On behalf of my wife I am trying to discover the route and timing of the Baryluk family from their home in Liczkowce in what was the Polish Tarnopol province to eventually England.
I believe they were sent to Siberia , later Iran, then India.

My question is does anyone know of the place Liczkowce and or its inhabitants around 1939?
Thanks




Liczkowce

 

Dear Group, I am the new boy on the block. On behalf of my wife I am trying to discover the route and timing of the Baryluk family from their home in Liczkowce in what was the Polish Tarnopol province to eventually England.
I believe they were sent to Siberia , later Iran, then India.

My question is does anyone know of the place Liczkowce and or its inhabitants around 1939?
Thanks


[www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Introducing new member Linda Cimachowicz from, Glendora, CA. USA

 

Linda,

Following your discussion I sent to your private email address a map showing the location of Bojarszczyzna; just as Stan said; it is just North of the line from Iwieniec and Wolma. You see Wolma in the bottom RHand corner of that map. It was in reply to a message you posted to Radzima site.

May I add that there is mention of this little village in church records of early XVIIIth c. and in Slownik Geograficzny Krolewstwa Polskiego on page 672. ( just a reference to it) One assumes that the Church records of birth, etc are either at Wolma or Iwieniec.

antoni530 in UK]

--- In Kresy-Siberia@..., Stanislaw Zwierzynski <zwierzinski1957@...> wrote:

Hello Linda!
Iwieniec is on a different map. These cards on 1926 year.
You log on to the WIG site??- the pre-war Polish Institute of Cartography, all Kresy divided into squares. Choose your square.

You can view jn Googl maps the??place of?? your old village.

About grief ofour ancestors -?? it was a very heavy time. But time was heroic, and all who were in a meat grinder and preserved human dignity - they are heroes.

Do not worry about the plight of your father - he was in heaven. And that's where we would get - the big question.

Stan from M.

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From: Linda Cimachowicz <mail4linda@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 1:37 AM
Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Introducing new member Linda Cimachowicz from, Glendora, CA. USA



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Hello Stan,
Thank you for your response. It would be so great if you were able to see the village of Bojarszczyzna. Looking at your map, I couldn't find Iwieniec?
Is the map really old. It looks like an ancient one. Are the villages still around after WWII? Is your family from Iwieniec? If so, have you had any luck finding them? This whole search is getting very interesting.
I learned that my father-in-law joined the Polish Campaign the same day that Nazi Germany attacked and invaded Poland (Sept. 1, 1939). He was captured by the Russians 17 days later and held as a POW for 2 years.
He was given amnesty then and joined the Polish Army in 1941 under British Command and served in Persia (Iran) till 1944. Then took part in the Battle of Monte Cassino in Italy till 1945. He was then emigrated to Canada.
He must have had a terrible life during that period and then to never to hear or see his family for the rest of his life.
I appreciate your help.
Linda Cimachowicz
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From:Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Stanislaw Zwierzynski
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 1:38 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: Re: [] Re: Introducing new member Linda Cimachowicz from, Glendora, CA. USA [1 Attachment]
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[Attachment(s) from Stanislaw Zwierzynski included below]
Hi, Linda!
This village isnot far from Iwieniec, earlier it was inthis district (gmina). On the WIG map??you will find it in the upper left-hand corner.
Village stands in the way from Iwieniec to Rakow on the right side of the road.
??In March 2013??I was there (in Iwieniec), will go there again in July. If I will have a car, I can reach??this place and see if there's any village.

Stan from M.
From:Linda Cimachowicz <mail4linda@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:20 AM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Introducing new member Linda Cimachowicz from, Glendora, CA. USA
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Thank you so much Helen and Lenarda.
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On my father-in-laws (Wladyslaw Cimachowicz) military papers it says he was born in Bojarszczyzna (I believe this is a village), the Province of Wotozyn, Nowogrodek, Poland.
I know this area is now in Belarus. Does anyone know about these regions? We're they destroyed in the war? Where would be the best place to look for birth, marriage and death certificates? Would Minsk be the best place to stay while we do our research? We have no photos or papers except his military Demobilization Certificate.
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I contacted the Minister of Defence in the UK yesterday. They do have records on him. I'm sending in a request along with the fee to receive them. That will take 6-8 weeks. This is the first success I've had in my search for my father-in-laws history. I'm very hopeful that the nice people from Kresy-Siberia will be able to help as well.
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Thank you everyone.
??
Linda Cimachowicz
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An article about Father Lucjan Kr¨®likowski,

 

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Dear Group,
Thanks to Stefan for finding this an article in Polish about Father Lucjan Kr¨®likowski, being awarded a rank of "Knight of the Order of the Smile".
Father Lucjan is the Honorary Catholic Chaplain of the Kresy-Siberia Virtual Museum .

To read the article, please go to ......
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Krystyna Szypowska?
Winnipeg, Canada


Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Introducing new member Linda Cimachowicz from, Glendora, CA. USA

 

Hello Linda!
Iwieniec is on a different map. These cards on 1926 year.
You log on to the WIG site?- the pre-war Polish Institute of Cartography, all Kresy divided into squares. Choose your square.

You can view jn Googl maps the?place of? your old village.

About grief of our ancestors -? it was a very heavy time. But time was heroic, and all who were in a meat grinder and preserved human dignity - they are heroes.
Do not worry about the plight of your father - he was in heaven. And that's where we would get - the big question.

Stan from M.
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From: Linda Cimachowicz
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 1:37 AM
Subject: RE: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Introducing new member Linda Cimachowicz from, Glendora, CA. USA
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Hello Stan,
Thank you for your response. It would be so great if you were able to see the village of Bojarszczyzna. Looking at your map, I couldn't find Iwieniec?
Is the map really old. It looks like an ancient one. Are the villages still around after WWII? Is your family from Iwieniec? If so, have you had any luck finding them? This whole search is getting very interesting.
I learned that my father-in-law joined the Polish Campaign the same day that Nazi Germany attacked and invaded Poland (Sept. 1, 1939). He was captured by the Russians 17 days later and held as a POW for 2 years.
He was given amnesty then and joined the Polish Army in 1941 under British Command and served in Persia (Iran) till 1944. Then took part in the Battle of Monte Cassino in Italy till 1945. He was then emigrated to Canada.
He must have had a terrible life during that period and then to never to hear or see his family for the rest of his life.
I appreciate your help.
Linda Cimachowicz
?
From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Stanislaw Zwierzynski
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 1:38 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: Re: [] Re: Introducing new member Linda Cimachowicz from, Glendora, CA. USA [1 Attachment]
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[ from Stanislaw Zwierzynski included below]
Hi, Linda!
This village is not far from Iwieniec, earlier it was in this district (gmina). On the WIG map?you will find it in the upper left-hand corner.
Village stands in the way from Iwieniec to Rakow on the right side of the road.
?In March 2013?I was there (in Iwieniec), will go there again in July. If I will have a car, I can reach?this place and see if there's any village.

Stan from M.
From: Linda Cimachowicz <mail4linda@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:20 AM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Introducing new member Linda Cimachowicz from, Glendora, CA. USA
?
Thank you so much Helen and Lenarda.
?
On my father-in-laws (Wladyslaw Cimachowicz) military papers it says he was born in Bojarszczyzna (I believe this is a village), the Province of Wotozyn, Nowogrodek, Poland.
I know this area is now in Belarus. Does anyone know about these regions? We're they destroyed in the war? Where would be the best place to look for birth, marriage and death certificates? Would Minsk be the best place to stay while we do our research? We have no photos or papers except his military Demobilization Certificate.
?
I contacted the Minister of Defence in the UK yesterday. They do have records on him. I'm sending in a request along with the fee to receive them. That will take 6-8 weeks. This is the first success I've had in my search for my father-in-laws history. I'm very hopeful that the nice people from Kresy-Siberia will be able to help as well.
?
Thank you everyone.
?
Linda Cimachowicz
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Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Photo Identification

 

Done Ewa. Here's the link so you can monitor reply's.


Chris Calgary


From: ebard55
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:23:31 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Photo Identification

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Hi, Chris!
I really appreciate your offer! Please feel free to post the pictures on the werrelics forum. I have very little information about my mother's side of the family. As regarding my younger uncle (the tall one), the family has no information on him after 1940.
Thanks again,

Ewa D. Nevada

--- In Kresy-Siberia@..., "wroblew705" wrote:
>
>
>
> Hey Ewa if you like I can post your images on the Polish section of warrelics forum. There are some very knowledgeable folks there. -Do let me know-. What I can tell you is the photo titled Egypt is a prewar photo taken in Poland. The officer's uniforms might be KOP - Korpusu Ochrony Pogranicza or Border Protection Corps.
>
> Chris Calgary
>
> --- In Kresy-Siberia@..., Eva Dryanski wrote:
> >
> > Can anyone identify the uniforms in these pictures? I can identify the Polish Army uniforms,
> > but am uncertain of the darker colored uniforms with the round top caps that my uncles are wearing.
> > Please see the attachments. We think we labeled the last picture incorrectly. We believe that the
> > darker uniforms are either police or Reserve/KOP.
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ewa D., Nevada
> >
>




Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Introducing new member Linda Cimachowicz from, Glendora, CA. USA [1 Attachment]

Linda Cimachowicz
 

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Hello Stan,

Thank you for your response. It would be so great if you were able to see the village of Bojarszczyzna. Looking at your map, I couldn't find Iwieniec?

Is the map really old. It looks like an ancient one. Are the villages still around after WWII? Is your family from Iwieniec? If so, have you had any luck finding them? This whole search is getting very interesting.

I learned that my father-in-law joined the Polish Campaign the same day that Nazi Germany attacked and invaded Poland (Sept. 1, 1939). He was captured by the Russians 17 days later and held as a POW for 2 years.

He was given amnesty then and joined the Polish Army in 1941 under British Command and served in Persia (Iran) till 1944. Then took part in the Battle of Monte Cassino in Italy till 1945. He was then emigrated to Canada.

He must have had a terrible life during that period and then to never to hear or see his family for the rest of his life.

I appreciate your help.

Linda Cimachowicz

?

From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of Stanislaw Zwierzynski
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 1:38 AM
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Introducing new member Linda Cimachowicz from, Glendora, CA. USA [1 Attachment]

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[Attachment(s) from Stanislaw Zwierzynski included below]

Hi, Linda!

This village is not far from Iwieniec, earlier it was in this district (gmina). On the WIG map?you will find it in the upper left-hand corner.

Village stands in the way from Iwieniec to Rakow on the right side of the road.

?In March 2013?I was there (in Iwieniec), will go there again in July. If I will have a car, I can reach?this place and see if there's any village.

Stan from M.

From: Linda Cimachowicz <mail4linda@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:20 AM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Introducing new member Linda Cimachowicz from, Glendora, CA. USA

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Thank you so much Helen and Lenarda.

?

On my father-in-laws (Wladyslaw Cimachowicz) military papers it says he was born in Bojarszczyzna (I believe this is a village), the Province of Wotozyn, Nowogrodek, Poland.

I know this area is now in Belarus. Does anyone know about these regions? We're they destroyed in the war? Where would be the best place to look for birth, marriage and death certificates? Would Minsk be the best place to stay while we do our research? We have no photos or papers except his military Demobilization Certificate.

?

I contacted the Minister of Defence in the UK yesterday. They do have records on him. I'm sending in a request along with the fee to receive them. That will take 6-8 weeks. This is the first success I've had in my search for my father-in-laws history. I'm very hopeful that the nice people from Kresy-Siberia will be able to help as well.

?

Thank you everyone.

?

Linda Cimachowicz

?


Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Introducing new member Linda Cimachowicz from, Glendora, CA. USA

 

Hi, Linda!
This village is not far from Iwieniec, earlier it was in this district (gmina). On the WIG map?you will find it in the upper left-hand corner.
Village stands in the way from Iwieniec to Rakow on the right side of the road.
?In March 2013?I was there (in Iwieniec), will go there again in July. If I will have a car, I can reach?this place and see if there's any village.

Stan from M.

From: Linda Cimachowicz
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2013 2:20 AM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Re: Introducing new member Linda Cimachowicz from, Glendora, CA. USA
?
Thank you so much Helen and Lenarda.
?
On my father-in-laws (Wladyslaw Cimachowicz) military papers it says he was born in Bojarszczyzna (I believe this is a village), the Province of Wotozyn, Nowogrodek, Poland.
I know this area is now in Belarus. Does anyone know about these regions? We're they destroyed in the war? Where would be the best place to look for birth, marriage and death certificates? Would Minsk be the best place to stay while we do our research? We have no photos or papers except his military Demobilization Certificate.
?
I contacted the Minister of Defence in the UK yesterday. They do have records on him. I'm sending in a request along with the fee to receive them. That will take 6-8 weeks. This is the first success I've had in my search for my father-in-laws history. I'm very hopeful that the nice people from Kresy-Siberia will be able to help as well.
?
Thank you everyone.
?
Linda Cimachowicz
?


Re: Photo Identification

 

Hi, Chris!
I really appreciate your offer! Please feel free to post the pictures on the werrelics forum. I have very little information about my mother's side of the family. As regarding my younger uncle (the tall one), the family has no information on him after 1940.
Thanks again,

Ewa D. Nevada

--- In Kresy-Siberia@..., "wroblew705" <wroblew705@...> wrote:



Hey Ewa if you like I can post your images on the Polish section of warrelics forum. There are some very knowledgeable folks there. -Do let me know-. What I can tell you is the photo titled Egypt is a prewar photo taken in Poland. The officer's uniforms might be KOP - Korpusu Ochrony Pogranicza or Border Protection Corps.

Chris Calgary

--- In Kresy-Siberia@..., Eva Dryanski <ebard55@> wrote:

Can anyone identify the uniforms in these pictures? I can identify the Polish Army uniforms,
but am uncertain of the darker colored uniforms with the round top caps that my uncles are wearing.
Please see the attachments. We think we labeled the last picture incorrectly. We believe that the
darker uniforms are either police or Reserve/KOP.
Thanks,

Ewa D., Nevada


[FWD: [WW2 - POLSKI 2 KORPUS] need some military info - which unit were the PSK...]

 

Message from Elzunia:

28 April 03:11
need some military info - which unit were the PSK (Pestki) in during evacuation, they only came under 2 Polish Corps once they got to Italy.
Also, same question for 3DSK? or were they made up of soldiers from various units?


Re: Introducing new member Linda Cimachowicz from, Glendora, CA. USA

Linda Cimachowicz
 

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Thank you so much Helen and Lenarda.

?

On my father-in-laws (Wladyslaw Cimachowicz) military papers it says he was born in Bojarszczyzna (I believe this is a village), the Province of Wotozyn, Nowogrodek, Poland.

I know this area is now in Belarus. Does anyone know about these regions? We're they destroyed in the war? Where would be the best place to look for birth, marriage and death certificates? Would Minsk be the best place to stay while we do our research? We have no photos or papers except his military Demobilization Certificate.

?

I contacted the Minister of Defence in the UK yesterday. They do have records on him. I'm sending in a request along with the fee to receive them. That will take 6-8 weeks. This is the first success I've had in my search for my father-in-laws history. I'm very hopeful that the nice people from Kresy-Siberia will be able to help as well.

?

Thank you everyone.

?

Linda Cimachowicz

?


News

 


Single Mom Makes $89,844/Yr in Her Spare Time on The Computer Without Selling Anything



4/27/2013 9:02:03 PM


SIBERIAN DEPORTEES - DIFERENT ERA - off the topic

 

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Have just discovered from opral history that my great grandmother brothers family was deported to Siberia for religious reasons

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The only religious repressions and deportation on religious grounds in the southern Podlasie region was that of the Unici

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The sisterinlaw and 2 sons reappeared in Komarowka Podlaska in early 1920s

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Yet the tsars degree for religious freedom was in 1905

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So I have a series of questions

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1???????????????????? if tsars decree was in 1905 ¨C how long would it be before it got to the depths of Siberia

2???????????????????? when was the telegraph introduced to Russia

3???????????????????? how long would it take for deportees to travel back to southern Podlasie ¨C

4???????????????????? does any pne know to what year there were deportations of the unici ¨C I know the major repressions in the southern Podlasie were in the 1870s 0 but my great great uncle attended my great grandparents wedding in 1887

Lucyna


petition to rename Kaliningrad

 



they're citing Katyn & the Holodomor as reasons why his name should be
removed from the city

--
Tim Bucknall
Congleton, UK
RDR54D1 + CLP5130


Re: Storm on the Caspian Sea

 

Hi Krystyna
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Our family was already in Pahlevi on 28 March 1942 - see photo in my collection in the Hall of Memories.? One of my father's stories from my childhood was of the terrible storm that befell our crossing of the Caspian Sea.? My guess has therefore been that the storm?occurred on 27 March.? If, however (as others state) this stormy-affected crossing?took 3 days?it could have occurred?on 25/26 March, with the ship disabled until we landed in Pahlevi on 28 March.
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Of course, there may have been more than one storm, on more than one day, when the evacuations took place.? A number of accounts of crossing the Caspian refer to a storm at sea - perhaps they all refer to?the same crossing, or perhaps this occurred several times.? Bad weather there seems to be common at that time of year.
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Alexandra Copley
Australia???


Krakow votes for WWII soldier bear statue, Professor Norman Davies comments...

Cracow Krakow based
 

A moment of silence in memory of all those who died was held in Krakow town hall before a Press conference about the vote in favour of a Wojtek the Soldier Bear statute in Krakow as per

"Wojtek is not just a nice story about a bear who became a soldier. He's a symbol of a big group of people - 100,000 strong and more - who came out of Stalin's Russia,?€? Davies reflected."

http://www.thenews.pl/1/9/Artykul/134028,Krakow-votes-for-WWII-soldier-bear-statue

Keep up with details of this and other projects via a Facebook page ?
https://www.facebook.com/groups/wojtekthesoldierbear/

Richard


Re: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Storm on the Caspian Sea

 

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Krystyna, your Aunt, ?may have been on the same ship as my mother in law, maiden name of Cecylia Wiktorowicz, deceased 2002, who remembered being locked below deck and everyone was seasick and ?the sinking of a ship during the same storm, they searched for 3 days and could find no trace, all Polish souls drowned. ?She continued on to Tengeru and was afraid to go near rivers or oceans after this.

Regards,

Lenarda, Australia

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From: Kresy-Siberia@... [mailto:Kresy-Siberia@...] On Behalf Of kms0902@...
Sent: Saturday, 27 April, 2013 2:12 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Storm on the Caspian Sea

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I was just re-reading the description my aunt had written of the family journey to the south of the USSR and across the Caspian Sea.?

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To my amazement I see that she wrote that there was a storm on the crossing to Pahlevi, and that everyone onboard the ship was sea sick as a result.

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This confirms other accounts of a storm on the crossing.

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I do not recall if we determined the date of this storm?

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Krystyna Szypowska

Winnipeg, Canada

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Storm on the Caspian Sea

 

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I was just re-reading the description my aunt had written of the family journey to the south of the USSR and across the Caspian Sea.?
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To my amazement I see that she wrote that there was a storm on the crossing to Pahlevi, and that everyone onboard the ship was sea sick as a result.
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This confirms other accounts of a storm on the crossing.
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I do not recall if we determined the date of this storm?
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Krystyna Szypowska
Winnipeg, Canada
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Re: Civilian tragedy Totskoye

 

hI n=Anna...
you can write to pani Wanda Selivanowska....wselivanowska@...
she live in Orenburg an is very active lady... so she might have an answer for you.
Best regards
Ted

--- In Kresy-Siberia@..., Chris W <wroblew705@...> wrote:

For what its worth in the book -General Anders and the soldiers of The Second Polish Corps- by Harvey Sarner on page 33 there is this.


'In Autumn of 1941'...'there was utter chaos when the Soviets collected trekkers and began sending them back to camps in the north. Some trekkers lived in train stations waiting for trains that would never come. Many died of hunger and exposure.'


If you like I can scan the page for you. Might also be worth contacting the author? You might try contacting the Hoover institute and ask for any depositions written by the people you mention. I've done this a few times with interesting results.

Just my 2 cents
Chris Calgary



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From: annapacewicz <annapacewicz@...>
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Sent: Friday, April 26, 2013 4:16:55 PM
Subject: [www.Kresy-Siberia.org] Civilian tragedy Totskoye



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Dear group,

I hope that you can help me solve a mystery.

I have two eye-witness accounts of Poles in the Orenburg oblast in winter 1941. I would like to find out more information about this tragic incident.

My father Wladyslaw Pacewicz and also Sybirak Jadwiga Socha (z domu Jablonska, and first marriage surname was Raciborska) both enlisted at Tockoje in the 18th Infantry Regiment, in the 6th Infantry Division. My father enlisted on 1st December 1941. At the end of January 1942 the Division was transferred to Uzbekistan.

Both my father, and Jadwiga, recall that a convoy of 23 - 25 wagons containing Polish civilians travelling to the Polish Army in the Winter of 1942 were kept on the sidings for THREE DAYS with the doors shut, with no food and with no fuel for heating. When the NKVD officer finally opened the door to the wagon both my father and Jadwiga saw the frozen, dead bodies of women and children. One woman was holding her baby ?€" they were all frozen and dead.

Jadwiga recalls the station was CZKA???"W ?€" it was in the Orenburg Oblast (note this has since been re-named Orenburg Station).
Jadwiga recalls that she and small group of other Polish soldiers (about 6 - 7) were living near the station. The Polkownik and the small group of Polish soldiers were a sort of "welcoming committee". They were awaiting a trainload of Polish civilians being transported who were due to arrive at CZKA???"W.

Jadwiga recalls the following names who were with her in the group ?€" they included a female doctor by the name of Dr. Maria Chmurzyna, a female soldier by the name of Kama and a male soldier by the name of Wladek (or Wojtek, but she thinks Wladek ?€" we think my father Wladyslaw Pacewicz) and a Polkownik Gwozdziecki.

The group's role was to wait at the station for trainloads of Polish civilians being transported and the Polkownik couldn't understand why days were passing and this particular train had not arrived. The group was waiting to meet the train and organise food to be given out at the station. When the Russian NKVD were asked about the train, they told the Poles that the train had gone through during the night and must have been missed by the waiting Polish soldiers.

A few days later, the Polkownik was told (in confidence) by one of the Russians whom he had become friendly with that there was a train that had been re-directed to a siding about 2km before the station at CZKA???"W. The Polkownik then made enquiries and, after a while, the train was "found".

When the doors to the first wagon were opened by the Polkownik and the male soldiers, Jadwiga heard the Polkownik scream out "Oh my God" (Oj moj Boze). When Jadwiga and the remaining soldiers who were waiting behind him looked in the wagons, they saw a mass of frozen bodies.

Jadwiga vividly recalls the first body she saw was a mother holding an infant to her breast, and the mother and infant had signs of charcoal around their mouths. She said the male soldiers then ran from wagon to wagon opening the doors and the same sight of masses of dead bodies greeting them as each of the doors was opened.

Jadwiga recalls that the Polkownik officially reported the tragedy to the NKVD and his own superiors and General Anders. Jadwiga recalls the bodies were supposed to have been taken out of the wagons during the next two days.

Jadwiga and the small group of Polish soldiers were told not to speak of the incident to anyone else and definitely not to tell anybody what they had seen. Jadwiga said that within two days, the Polkownik called the small group of Polish soldiers to a meeting, told them he had been given tickets for the group by the Russian station worker who had told him about the train being on the siding. The Polkownik told them they all had to escape from CZKA???"W quickly as their lives were in danger. He told them that they were to be dressed and ready to escape; they were to wait in the dark near the station till a train that was leaving CZKA???"W in the middle of the night was almost due to depart the station at CZKA???"W, then on his signal they were to quickly get into a dark wagon. This is how they escaped with their lives.

Personally, my father recalled the incident of the frozen women and children who had not been collected in time from the station to me many years ago. It was clearly a suppressed memory and on two occasions he recalled it, crying and distressed. He did not mention anything about "escaping" or their lives being in danger.

I spoke to Jadwiga, a 99 year old Sybirak, this week regarding this incident. She still has a very good memory and remembered it vividly and was extremely upset.

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Jadwiga is convinced that Wladyslaw (my father) was one of the small group of Polish soldiers that she was part of waiting at the station. She says that is the only way he would have known about the mass of dead bodies, and she recalls a Wladek being with her group.

Jadwiga's daughter recalls her mother speaking of this tragedy at least 55 years' ago, and on many occasions since then.