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Stolowicze (Stolovitschi) and Krywoszyn (Krivoshin) Belarus pre 1939
Tomasz Wi?niewski
开云体育Stolowicze (Stolovitschi) and Krywoszyn (Krivoshin)
Belarus pre 1939
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I just added new photo albums
Stolowicze (Stolovitschi) and Krywoszyn (Krivoshin)
Belarus pre 1939
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Look into
"Alfabet Polski" - Poland Photos & Maps pre-1945 or straight into Belarus section
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Tomek Wisniewski
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Re: last name HERCUN
Stefan Wisniowski
There were 1561 families in the early 1990's with the name Tomecki living in Poland, according to the index by Professor K. Rymut. ?Their distribution across the 49 pre-1998 provinces follows (each province has a two-letter code). ?As you can see, over half *934) are in Ka (the old province of Katowice).
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You can see a map and all the codes for the old and the new provinces at http://hum.amu.edu.pl/~zbzw/ph/pro/plwoj.html Stefan Wisniowski Sydney, Australia
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Re: last name HERCUN
Vantom
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From: Kresy-Siberia@...
Date: 11 October 2003 17:19:45
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: last name HERCUN ? Michelle and Gabriel,To narrow down which counties and provinces people with the surname Hercun live, you can search at the following wonderful site: Andy Golebiowski Buffalo, New York USA PS. It would be helpful (as suggested numerous times on this list) if people posting messages, especially requests, listed where they currently live. People have posted from at least 4 continents on this list, so you never know how to respond to a request. I could suggest some genealogical groups to Michelle for example, but I have no idea where she lives. Garbriel had written: >Message: 10 ?? Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:07:22 -0700 (PDT) ?? From: Razel >Subject: Re: last name HERCUN >Dear Michelle! I'll try to help you. When I'll be in the post office I'll ask for phone books. But there are two main problems: ? First:new? phone books include only company names, addresses etc. It is forbidden to show there any personal information (especially names, addresses, phone numbers)because of protection of personal data act which obliges from about 10 years. And it is really hard to find old enough phone books which were issued before that act came into life. ? Second: Poland is divided into 16 districts(voivodships) and every voivodship has its own phone book- it is not a big deal to check 16 books for the name you are looking for. As I said I must find books which were issued before that protection law came- and during that period (till 1998) Poland was divided into 49 voivodships. It is just a little more books to skim;-) If I find anything I'll let you know, but try to be patient. I live in Upper Silesia in Katowice(south Poland) and first I'll check this voivodship for you. Take care! Gabriel Damaszk. moffattm@... wrote: > I see that we have a few individuals from Poland on our list.? I was wondering if they could see if there are any HERCUNS listed in phone book and could send their addresses\Thanks in advance for your help Michelle (Hercun) Moffatt __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search * KRESY-SIBERIA GROUP = RESEARCH REMEMBRANCE RECOGNITION "Dedicated to researching, remembering and recognising the Polish citizens deported, enslaved and killed by the Soviet Union during World War Two." * Discussion site : Gallery (photos, documents) : Film and info : * To SUBSCRIBE to the discussion group, send an e-mail saying who you are and describing your interest in the group to: Kresy-Siberia-owner@... * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the . ?
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Re: 1945 book
HI group,
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After seeing Paul's mail, I checked on Google for Soviet Justice. There was an article in Italian about books dealing with Soviet justice. They said that the Poles were among the first to write about the subject shortly after WW2. They mentioned this book, giving the Italian title, so I imagine it was translated then. They also linked it with a book called The Dark Side of the Moon, intro by H. Sikorska, London, Faber & Faber, 1946. I sometimes look in second hand bookstores here in France. I will keep my eye out for the book in French and if I can find it, might try to translate some of it in my spare time. Barbara Davoust Toulouse, France "Sprawiedliwosc Sowiecka" (Soviet Justice) was published in Italy by the Polish Second Corps in 1945. |
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Teaching and spreading the word
Jagna maybe it would be possible to put a package of teaching materials together for schools and even approach the Exam boards and Educationalists regarding the curriculum. At present WW2 is taught but obviously emphasis is very much on Nazis and the rise , influence etc there should be a balance don't you think and some truth
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Re: spreading our story
Excellent which Universities have been contacted in UK?
Bye 4 now Hela. From: jagna8@..._________________________________________________________________ Express yourself with cool emoticons - download MSN Messenger today! |
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Re: Photos
Julian S. Plowy
开云体育Hi
Dianne,
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I have
finished all the photos and will be sending them back to you today with?the
CD.
The CD
contains all of your photos, other Tergeru photos and all the Santa Rosa photos
with some additional information.
The
reason all of this is being sent is that there is room on the CD so why
not.
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Also
all of your original photos are also included in the package. No changes were
made to them. All changes or corrections including front captions were only made
on the CD pictures.
If you
have any questions or can't open the CD please let me know.
For your information any software photo program can
open this CD. If you do not have a photo software?program you can down load many (for free) from
the web.
I can help you in that matter
also.
Thank you again for sharing your precious memories with
all of us.
I hope you will enjoy this CD as much as I had doing
the work.
Thank you again,
Julek ?-----Original Message-----
From: Custance.family [mailto:Custance.family@...] Sent: Sunday, January 03, 1999 3:03 PM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: Re: [Kresy-Siberia] Photos
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Re: last name HERCUN
Michelle and Gabriel,
To narrow down which counties and provinces people with the surname Hercun live, you can search at the following wonderful site: Andy Golebiowski Buffalo, New York USA PS. It would be helpful (as suggested numerous times on this list) if people posting messages, especially requests, listed where they currently live. People have posted from at least 4 continents on this list, so you never know how to respond to a request. I could suggest some genealogical groups to Michelle for example, but I have no idea where she lives. Garbriel had written: Message: 10Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 23:07:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Razel <razelsmith@...> Subject: Re: last name HERCUN Dear Michelle!I'll try to help you. When I'll be in the post office I'll ask for phone books. But there are two main problems: First:new phone books include only company names, addresses etc. It is forbidden to show there any personal information (especially names, addresses, phone numbers)because of protection of personal data act which obliges from about 10 years. And it is really hard to find old enough phone books which were issued before that act came into life. Second: Poland is divided into 16 districts(voivodships) and every voivodship has its own phone book- it is not a big deal to check 16 books for the name you are looking for. As I said I must find books which were issued before that protection law came- and during that period (till 1998) Poland was divided into 49 voivodships. It is just a little more books to skim;-) If I find anything I'll let you know, but try to be patient. I live in Upper Silesia in Katowice(south Poland) and first I'll check this voivodship for you. Take care! Gabriel Damaszk. moffattm@... wrote: I see that we have a few individuals from Poland onour list. I was wondering if they could see if there are any HERCUNS listed in phone book and could send their addresses\Thanks in advance for your help Michelle (Hercun) Moffatt __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search |
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Re: spreading our story
Julian S. Plowy
Good Idea. What is the cost of the package?
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From: jagna8@... [mailto:jagna8@...] Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2003 7:13 AM To: Kresy-Siberia@... Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] spreading our story Dear Group, I’ve just returned from a fascinating trip to the Baltic republics, the result of which are a few new ideas that you might find interesting: 1.In Wilno, Riga and Tallin new Museums of the Occupation opened recently. They are all very moving, but what is particularly striking is that all three give much more prominence to the horrors of the Soviet occupation than the German one (which, incidentally, is in accordance with the views of many Poles from Eastern Poland who have experienced both!). The deportations to Siberia of the Lithuanians, Latvians and Estonians are very well documented, with many letters, drawings, handcraft made of twigs, fishbones or dried bread, remnants of ‘fufajkas’ and ‘valonkis’, etc being especially moving. I found it all very exciting, and had to spend a lot of time explaining to my English friends the complicated and tragic past of that area of Europe that is practically unknown to them as Westerners. They were in a state of shock – even though they have seen ‘A Forgotten Odyssey’; I feel they suspected a degree of Polish tendency to ‘wallow in the memories of their martyrdom’ (this is how a lot of British people see us), but here three separate countries, and three completely different peoples were validating Polish experiences and bitterness over the Soviet ordeal! This gave me the idea that maybe we should join ranks with them, and encourage them to document individual stories in the same way we did, so that one day in future we might all together apply to Russia for the REHABILITATION of the names of ALL those who suffered in the Soviet hands. They all asked for the cassettes of AFO – we shall see, this sounds maybe like an idea perhaps too ambitious, but I think it might just work… 2. The second idea is more a propos our strictly Polish aims. Aneta Naszynska and I managed to get a small grant which allowed us to partly finance packages which were sent around history departments of sixty three British universities: they landed on their desks exactly on 17th September, the anniversary of the Soviet invasion and the day of the powerful piece on BBC Radio 4. The parcels contained a copy of our film, a compilation of texts explaining the political background of the story (with the emphasis, however, mainly on the British bad behaviour), and a brochure with extracts from AFO’s reviews, with the plea to the professors of history to start including this Polish tragedy in their teaching curriculum. We were surprised by the reaction: several phone calls and letters, all congratulating us on the initiative, and promising to start spreading this story (and all wanted to lay their hands on the Foreign Office report!) Which means that there are a lot of people out there, ready to take up our cause. Which in turn gives me an idea: instead of wasting time looking for funds to carry out a similar campaign all over the world, why don’t members of our group ‘adopt’ a university in their area, and send them individually the packets with which we could provide them, and which could be accompanied by your personal explanatory letters? As there are around 340 of us, the scope of influence we could exert together is pretty wide…. If you think it’s a good idea, you could then order the packets through our Worldpay system on AFO website. What do you think? Pozdrowienia, Jagna * KRESY-SIBERIA GROUP = RESEARCH REMEMBRANCE RECOGNITION "Dedicated to researching, remembering and recognising the Polish citizens deported, enslaved and killed by the Soviet Union during World War Two." * Discussion site : Gallery (photos, documents) : Film and info : * To SUBSCRIBE to the discussion group, send an e-mail saying who you are and describing your interest in the group to: Kresy-Siberia-owner@... * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to |
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spreading our story
Dear Group,
I’ve just returned from a fascinating trip to the Baltic republics, the result of which are a few new ideas that you might find interesting: 1.In Wilno, Riga and Tallin new Museums of the Occupation opened recently. They are all very moving, but what is particularly striking is that all three give much more prominence to the horrors of the Soviet occupation than the German one (which, incidentally, is in accordance with the views of many Poles from Eastern Poland who have experienced both!). The deportations to Siberia of the Lithuanians, Latvians and Estonians are very well documented, with many letters, drawings, handcraft made of twigs, fishbones or dried bread, remnants of ‘fufajkas’ and ‘valonkis’, etc being especially moving. I found it all very exciting, and had to spend a lot of time explaining to my English friends the complicated and tragic past of that area of Europe that is practically unknown to them as Westerners. They were in a state of shock – even though they have seen ‘A Forgotten Odyssey’; I feel they suspected a degree of Polish tendency to ‘wallow in the memories of their martyrdom’ (this is how a lot of British people see us), but here three separate countries, and three completely different peoples were validating Polish experiences and bitterness over the Soviet ordeal! This gave me the idea that maybe we should join ranks with them, and encourage them to document individual stories in the same way we did, so that one day in future we might all together apply to Russia for the REHABILITATION of the names of ALL those who suffered in the Soviet hands. They all asked for the cassettes of AFO – we shall see, this sounds maybe like an idea perhaps too ambitious, but I think it might just work… 2. The second idea is more a propos our strictly Polish aims. Aneta Naszynska and I managed to get a small grant which allowed us to partly finance packages which were sent around history departments of sixty three British universities: they landed on their desks exactly on 17th September, the anniversary of the Soviet invasion and the day of the powerful piece on BBC Radio 4. The parcels contained a copy of our film, a compilation of texts explaining the political background of the story (with the emphasis, however, mainly on the British bad behaviour), and a brochure with extracts from AFO’s reviews, with the plea to the professors of history to start including this Polish tragedy in their teaching curriculum. We were surprised by the reaction: several phone calls and letters, all congratulating us on the initiative, and promising to start spreading this story (and all wanted to lay their hands on the Foreign Office report!) Which means that there are a lot of people out there, ready to take up our cause. Which in turn gives me an idea: instead of wasting time looking for funds to carry out a similar campaign all over the world, why don’t members of our group ‘adopt’ a university in their area, and send them individually the packets with which we could provide them, and which could be accompanied by your personal explanatory letters? As there are around 340 of us, the scope of influence we could exert together is pretty wide…. If you think it’s a good idea, you could then order the packets through our Worldpay system on AFO website. What do you think? Pozdrowienia, Jagna |
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Re: New association of Kresy expelled formed in Poland
Stefan Wisniowski
No, I have not been able to locate them. ?Perhaps one of our members in Poland can assist.
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Tergeru Photos
julek2205
To all;
The balance of the Tergeru photos have been posted today. There are now 85 photos in the Fedorowicz Family album as part of the Tergeru collection. Anyone seeking all photos on a cd please write to me with your address and I will send them to you. Anyone who can add to this collection please do so. Anyone who can identify the unknown people in the photos please let me know and I will add that to the photo. Thank 's to all who have contributed. Just a note! Our people have been scattered all over the world. If anyone has additional photos of other Polish colonies and would be willing to share them please feel free to add to this site. If you need help please let me know. If you don't have time to scan the photos or don't have the equipment please send me the photos. I willing will do the work for you. I am sure we all want to preserve this part of our history. Julek Plowy 2205 E Willow Dr San Bernardino, CA 92404 |
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Belarus K (Kleck, Korelicze Komaje and others) pre 1939 plus unknown polish catholic churches.
Tomasz Wi?niewski
开云体育Hi Friends
I just added some more photos
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Belarus K (Kleck, Korelicze Komaje and others) pre
1939
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some more unknown polish catholic churches. Do You
recognize?
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Re: Welcome Zygmunt Martynowicz
Julian S. Plowy
开云体育Hi
Zyg,
Welcome aboard!
For
all who are interested, Ventura county is north of Los Angeles. I live south
east of Los Angeles in San Bernardino which is?in San Bernardino County
about a 2 hour drive from Zyg or less depending on traffic.
Zyg, I
don't know your family but my family came form the south eastern part of Poland
around Przemysl.
Great?to have another Californian join the group.
Julek
(Julian) Plowy
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Re: Welcome Zygmunt Martynowicz
Zyg Martynowicz
开云体育Thanks for welcoming me to the group.? I live in
Camarillo, which is in Ventura County, California.? Please send info on
California members.?
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I would like to know if anyone in the group knew my family,
either in Poland or in the Siberian camp.? They lived in Wolyn in a place
called Ulanska Dola.? I think it is near Dubno.? I remember them also
mentioning a town called Targowica. My father's name was Jozef, mother was
Rozalia.? My two brothers are Jozef and Jan.? My brother says they
were taken to Archangelsk.? He somewhat remembers being in Settlement 52.
My sister Jadwiga died in Siberia.? Hope to hear from someone
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Zyg
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Re: Travel to Ukraine
Hello
yes visas are required. If traveling as a tourist such documentation is obtained with the help of the company which is organising the visits. If traveling to family I have a feeling it could be a little more difficult and a letter of invitation would be needed. flights are the easiest into the country, as there would be less documentation required in relation to transit countries and it may be a sin tourist visa requirements into Us , i.e filled in on plane. Consulates and Embassies should be the places to obtain such info each country has different requirements and reciprocal arrangements. Bye 4 now Hela. From: "moscickijordan" <ajordan1@...>_________________________________________________________________ Use MSN Messenger to send music and pics to your friends |
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Re: 1945 book
Paul Kobialka
开云体育"Sprawiedliwosc Sowiecka" (Soviet
Justice) was published in Italy by the Polish Second Corps in 1945. The authors
used pseudonyms - Sylwester Mora and Piotr Zwierniak, their real names were
Kazimierz Zamorski and Stanislaw Starzewski. This title was published in a few
hundred copies and translated the same year into French and published by
Magi-Spinetti in Rome under the title - "La justice Sovietique". I have?not
encountered any English or?Italian translations, but it is highly possible
that?they exist, I would have to check this thoroughly.?Sprawiedliwosc
Sowiecka is an extremely rare publication, almost unobtainable. If someone is
interested I might get hold of a copy or two, but cannot promise anything.
Please e-mail me off-list.
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Paul Kobialka -
Canada???
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Re: spreading our story
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Great idea Jagna....we have 2 universities in our
city of Waterloo.....I would even consider sending them to our high
schools.....most teachers that see AFO want a copy for their classroom.....this
would be a perfect way to spread the word ...perfect project for us for the
upcoming Remembrance Day.........November 11......
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1945 book
开云体育Perhaps some of you may know more about a book that
I have a photocopy of. Sprawiedliwosc Sowiecka was published in rome in
1945. The subject is the experiences of the deportees in the USSR. ?It was
given to me?by a veteran of the Anders Army in Montreal, Dr. Cymberg, who
told me that the book was published privately and secretly, in only 100 copies.
The authors, four officers of the Polish II Corps, published the book using the
pseudonyms, Sylvwester Mora and Piotr Zwierniak.
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No doubt a copy of the book is in the Hoover
Instituton. I've shown my copy to quite a lot of people interested in the
subject. Very few were aware of its existence. So far as I know, it was never
translated.
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Irene Tomaszewski
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