Zbyszek,
Hope you had a pleasant Thanksgiving weekend.
Thank you for the info, will check it out.
Roman
--- In Kresy-Siberia@..., "Zbigniew Bob Styrna"
<styrna@t...> wrote:
Roman,
According to my uncle's "ankieta" written in 1943, he documents
that it
happened in early October 1939. A few weeks after Russia invaded
Poland.
There are many such documents by other ex Siberians . The
originals are at
the Hoover institute in San Francisco USA.
Regards
Zbyszek
-----Original Message-----
From: romed46 [mailto:romed46@y...]
Sent: October 15, 2004 3:30 PM
To: Kresy-Siberia@...
Subject: [Kresy-Siberia] Re: USSR decree regarding citizenship
Stefan,
When Sikorski-Majski Agreement was negotiated the Polish negotiators
should have inisted that a paragraph stating " The Government of
the
U.S.S.R. recognises that the Decree of the Presidium of the Supreme
Council of the USSR issued in Moscow on November 29,1939, concerning
the aquisition of citizenship of the USSR by the inhabitants of the
Wetern districts of the Ukrainian and White Ruthenian SSR is now
rescinded and is void", or something to that effect.
Polish negotiators did not insist on it. Maybe Sikorski knew that he
could not get it and decided to trade territory for people.
You state that the plebiscite was conducted under duress. In my home
town there was no duress.
You also refer to rigged "elections", and if my memory serves me
right,someone else mentioned elections where the Russians presented
one Russian, one Ukrainian and one Jew as candidates.
Could you tell me where and when the elections were held and for
what
position or office the candidates ran. I have not heard about it
before.
Roman Skulski
West Vancouver, Canada
--- In Kresy-Siberia@..., Stefan Wisniowski
<swisniowski@p...> wrote:
Romuald,
Thanks for this recount. I can see from the Soviet point of view
how they
could claim the legality of their actions.
That they claimed something does not mean that it?s true, does it?
The Polish State remained a recognised legal entity in exile, as
recognised
by the world and practically by the USSR when it signed the
Sikorski-Majski
Agreement on 30 July 1941.
As you may know, the ?plebiscite? was not a democratic process, as
it was
conducted under duress. There are thousands of depositions in the
Hoover
Institution about the plebiscite and elections held by the Soviets
that
testify to this. The Soviets were masters at running rigged
?elections?
throughout their history.
Then again, this does seem to be a bit of a moot point, doesn?t
it?
In world
affairs it is the victors that write the history and make the
laws.
--
Stefan Wisniowski (moderator)
Sydney, Australia
From: "romed46" <romed46@y...>
...Sept. 17/39 3a.m.USSR Deputy Commissar for Foreign Affairs,
Potemkin, advises Polish Ambassador Grzybowski that the Polish
State
ceased to exist and that the Red Army has received orders to cross
the Polish frontier to protect the inhabitants..
..Oct. 29-30/39 Soviet occupying power carries out a plebiscite
in the occupied territory asking the population one question, do
they
want to join the Soviet Union, yes or no.
.. Nov. 1 - 2 /39 The Soviet authorities announce the results of
the plebiscite stating that 99 % voted yes,and that the occupied
territory is now part of the Soviet Union...
It appears to me that the Russians, by carrying out the plebiscite
on
Oct. 29-30 , made their decree of Nov.29/39 regarding
citizenship
legal.?
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