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Repairing a Dead TH-F6A
I am a new member to this Group and am glad to find it! I own numerous other groups.io Groups so I am familiar with the format.
I have two Kenwood TH-F6A HTs, one I bought just after the product was announced at the Dayton Hamvention (I was at that Kenwood meeting and joined in the standing ovation when the 220 MHz capability was announced). My original TH-F6A continues to work well. I got a second TH-F6A from a SK friend's estate. It had not been used in over a year and appeared dead. I could not get it to start despite my best efforts, including the system resets. Rather than just throw it away, I kept it, hoping I would one day have a better idea. Recently, a Yaesu HT with the same functional failure was restored over a club breakfast by a member who just took it apart at the restaurant table; he cleaned the keypad contacts and that was sufficient to restore that Yaesu to normal operation. I tried that same repair on my non-functional TH-F6A and that restored my HT to operation also! So, if you have some HT problem, either failing to start or some curious keypad issue, I suggest you open the TH-F6A and clean the keypad board contacts and the keypad rubber pads. I used a Q-Tip and anhydrous isopropyl alcohol. Opening is easy: remove the two slotted nuts around the SMA connector and encoder shafts, and the two small cross-point screws visible when the battery is removed. The unit separates into two parts easily and safely, exposing the keypad contacts. However, the POWER button on the rubber keypad is cracked, likely through frequent usage. I want to replace that rubber membrane keypad. I see that PacParts () has a "Substitute" Kenwood-branded keypad available: I wonder if any of you have had this keypad problem and have purchased this replacement from PacParts, and if you found it satisfactory. -- Best wishes, Larry McDavid W6FUB Anaheim, California (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland) |
Was the problem the tac switch under the rubber pad or did the broken rubber pad keep the tac switch from operating? I have not had this problem but have ordered Kenwood parts from them B4. Let us know how the new part works out? 73, Bob W4JFA? On Tue, May 14, 2024, 8:31 AM Larry McDavid via <lmcdavid=[email protected]> wrote: I am a new member to this Group and am glad to find it! I own numerous |
The TH-F6A keypad is not a tactile switch. There are gold plated traces on the circuit board and the rubber keypad buttons are conductive, forming the keypad switch.
In my failed TH-F6A, neither the gold-plated traces nor the rubber keypad appeared much contaminated, but cleaning both with alcohol on a Q-Tip restored the unit to operation. I assume there was some kind of film on those keypad POWER contacts that prevented operation. In any event, the unit now continues to work normally after cleaning and reassembly. The rubber keypad position for POWER on/off is damaged through long or perhaps abusive use; this HT came to me from a SK estate. The keypad is now functional but the rubber is cracked at the POWER position. I have ordered a replacement, "Substitute," keypad from PacParts and will report more after it arrives. The "Substitute" keypad is branded Kenwood, so I believe Kenwood changed the part number and likely made some change to the rubber keypad since it has a new part number. The PacParts website is extensive and clearly lists the replacement parts available. Placing the order was easy and I promptly received confirming emails. Turns out, PacParts is located in my local Los Angles area but is nearly across the LA basin from me so I had the order shipped by USPS "Ground Advantage," the replacement for (no longer available) First Class Package; I received a tracking number the same day I placed the order and the tracking info shows the package was received by the post office. That's prompt service! Here is a link to the PacParts webpage for TH-F6 parts: There is a groups.io Group for the Kenwood TH-F7; its description shows the TH-F6 is also covered. However, this Group seems inactive as the most recent posting was in August of 2023. I asked to join the Group but have had no reply. This Group was evidently formed by someone in Europe since it is named for the TH-F7, not the TH-F6, perhaps an unfortunate choice for maximum interest. Hence, my joining this Kenwood Amateur Radio Group. Best wishes, Larry McDavid W6FUB Anaheim, California (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland) On 5/14/2024 3:56 PM, Bob wrote: Was the problem the tac switch under the rubber pad or did the broken rubber pad keep the tac switch from operating?... |
Larry, I didn't know that about no "tac" switches. Thanks for that info and thanks for the parts link. These HT's are great and hope to keep mine running for years to come. Makes me wonder if I should order one of those to keep on hand. For me, that is by far the most used button along with the "A/B" button. Bob W4JFA? On Wed, May 15, 2024, 6:57 AM Larry McDavid via <lmcdavid=[email protected]> wrote: The TH-F6A keypad is not a tactile switch. There are gold plated traces |
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The main problem with those style of keypads, apart from the buttons physically detaching/cracking, is that the resistance of the contact part goes high resistance sue to wear. You can put a multimeter on it and you should see a fairly low resistance when new, typically a few hundred Ohms. As they get used, the resistance goes higher and will often go to many k Ohms. They also become quite shiny compared to a matt surface when good. A very effective method I have used for decades is to VERY lightly rub the affected rubber on a piece of very fine wet and dry. It only needs a very short, light swipe across the sandpaper and you'll find that the resistance is back down very low again. Just do this to each affected button and you're good to go again and there are no chemicals involved. 73….Eric VK2VE. -----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Larry McDavid Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2024 2:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Kenwood-Amateur-Radio] Repairing a Dead TH-F6A The TH-F6A keypad is not a tactile switch. There are gold plated traces on the circuit board and the rubber keypad buttons are conductive, forming the keypad switch. In my failed TH-F6A, neither the gold-plated traces nor the rubber keypad appeared much contaminated, but cleaning both with alcohol on a Q-Tip restored the unit to operation. I assume there was some kind of film on those keypad POWER contacts that prevented operation. In any event, the unit now continues to work normally after cleaning and reassembly. The rubber keypad position for POWER on/off is damaged through long or perhaps abusive use; this HT came to me from a SK estate. The keypad is now functional but the rubber is cracked at the POWER position. I have ordered a replacement, "Substitute," keypad from PacParts and will report more after it arrives. The "Substitute" keypad is branded Kenwood, so I believe Kenwood changed the part number and likely made some change to the rubber keypad since it has a new part number. The PacParts website is extensive and clearly lists the replacement parts available. Placing the order was easy and I promptly received confirming emails. Turns out, PacParts is located in my local Los Angles area but is nearly across the LA basin from me so I had the order shipped by USPS "Ground Advantage," the replacement for (no longer available) First Class Package; I received a tracking number the same day I placed the order and the tracking info shows the package was received by the post office. That's prompt service! Here is a link to the PacParts webpage for TH-F6 parts: There is a groups.io Group for the Kenwood TH-F7; its description shows the TH-F6 is also covered. However, this Group seems inactive as the most recent posting was in August of 2023. I asked to join the Group but have had no reply. This Group was evidently formed by someone in Europe since it is named for the TH-F7, not the TH-F6, perhaps an unfortunate choice for maximum interest. Hence, my joining this Kenwood Amateur Radio Group. Best wishes, Larry McDavid W6FUB Anaheim, California (SE of Los Angeles, near Disneyland) On 5/14/2024 3:56 PM, Bob wrote: Was the problem the tac switch under the rubber pad or did the broken... -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. www.avast.com |
Glad some are still here. 73, Bob W4JFA On Sun, Oct 6, 2024 at 9:09?PM Dean N2AWJ via <dean_gross=[email protected]> wrote:
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I'm glad someone is still active.? I have the F6 and I haven't heard anyone on the repeater in years.? All on digital I suppose. Richard, KE5JKJ On Tue, Oct 8, 2024, 7:16?AM Bob via <W4JFABob=[email protected]> wrote:
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