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linbpq rms not connecting

 

I just installed Direwolf and LinBPQ configured as an RMS for 1200 baud Packet following the video "Winlink Gateway on a Raspberry Pi LinBPQ". The install is on a fresh Pi 3B with Debian Bookworm. Everything seems to be running correctly but when I try to connect with either Winlink Express or Pat from Windows (don't have Pat on a PI). It connects but I only get the prompt for a BPQ node (Type ? for list of available commands.)? instead of the message in the Outbox being transmitted. I have been approved as a Sysop.

I have successfully been working with Winlink Express and Pat using both Vara HF and ARDOPC but don't have a VHF Packet station within range of my system so I'm not sure if this is a client setup problem or a setup for Pi and RMS.

Any help is appreciated.

73
Dave
WB9TEN
 

Resurrecting this old thread in hopes of a solution...
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I have been trying to install bpq using the BAP scripts for several days, messing with the configuration, reinstalling from scratch, etc. with the same result. Web searches indicate that other people have the same problem, but no solution posted.
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Installation goes as expected, I can connect to the node (it's connected directly from the client to the server through an 80 dB attenuator) but only get the "Type ?..." response. Entering RMS at the BPQ terminal connects to the RMS server no problem.
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Any help appreciated.
 

It's been years since I had a bpq gateway. John Wiseman has a group where you can get help. bpq. cfg you should have your settings for Winlink secure login etc. I have a copy of my bpq. Cfg. I would have to see how it's set up

73

Don va7dgp

Don Google Cell


On Wed, Sep 25, 2024, 6:32?PM Demonmariner via <Propinquityslo=[email protected]> wrote:
Resurrecting this old thread in hopes of a solution...
?
I have been trying to install bpq using the BAP scripts for several days, messing with the configuration, reinstalling from scratch, etc. with the same result. Web searches indicate that other people have the same problem, but no solution posted.
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Installation goes as expected, I can connect to the node (it's connected directly from the client to the server through an 80 dB attenuator) but only get the "Type ?..." response. Entering RMS at the BPQ terminal connects to the RMS server no problem.
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Any help appreciated.
 

The best place to get help with configs for BPQ is in John's forum /g/bpq32/topics
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--
73, de KM4ACK
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Edited

Thanks, I'll look over your config, maybe get a hint there. I'll post when I find the solution.
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Jason: the bpq group is my next stop, I just thought I'd try here first.
 

See the bottom part of the bpq.cfg.

Application?1
Application 2

Etc.?

later
Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU ? VOICE


Winlink:?va7dgp@...
Subject://wl2k ? ? ? ? ?

ALLSTAR ?530780
Hamshack Hotline
5971
Mid-Island Phone Mesh
2210
2232

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?


On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 8:11?AM Demonmariner via <Propinquityslo=[email protected]> wrote:

Thanks, I'll look over your config, maybe get a hint there. I'll post when I find the solution.
 

Bottom of config:
APPLICATION 3,RMS,C 1 CMS,W3IVH-9,,0
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Which as far as I can tell is OK.
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If I open the terminal on the bpq web interface and enter RMS, it returns:
RMS
Trying ec2-52-23-12-135.compute-1.amazonaws.com
*** W3IVH Connected to CMS
[WL2K-5.0-B2FWIHJM$]
;PQ: 49811864
CMS via W3IVH >
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So I'm guessing the connection to RMS is actually ok, but it doesn't do anything. Won't try to receive or send mail, just hangs.
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I'm going over the config you sent, can't see what's wrong yet.
 

If I remember?correctly, I use my browser, Enter the IP address:8080.

It opens up a page showing the callsign of the node.

You should see:



See if your answer here

73
Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU ? VOICE


Winlink:?va7dgp@...
Subject://wl2k ? ? ? ? ?

ALLSTAR ?530780
Hamshack Hotline
5971
Mid-Island Phone Mesh
2210
2232

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?


On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 5:26?PM Demonmariner via <Propinquityslo=[email protected]> wrote:

Bottom of config:
APPLICATION 3,RMS,C 1 CMS,W3IVH-9,,0
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Which as far as I can tell is OK.
?
If I open the terminal on the bpq web interface and enter RMS, it returns:
RMS
Trying
*** W3IVH Connected to CMS
[WL2K-5.0-B2FWIHJM$]
;PQ: 49811864
CMS via W3IVH >
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So I'm guessing the connection to RMS is actually ok, but it doesn't do anything. Won't try to receive or send mail, just hangs.
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I'm going over the config you sent, can't see what's wrong yet.
 
Edited

Yup, that opens the node web server "W3IVH-9's BPQ32 Web Server" with the banner?

BPQ32 Node W3IVH-9

Edit: I have the official BPQ docs, going through them.
 

More info: this is my config files (passwords redacted):
?
; Written by BPQConfigGen
SIMPLE
NODECALL=W3IVH-9
NODEALIAS=IVH
LOCATOR=CM95QG
FULL_CTEXT=1
IDINTERVAL=0
BTINTERVAL=0

INFOMSG:
****
IDMSG:
****
BTEXT:
****
CTEXT:
Type ? for list of available commands.
****
PORT
PORTNUM=1
?ID=Telnet Server
?DRIVER=TELNET
?CONFIG
? LOGGING=1
? TCPPORT=8010
? FBBPORT=8011
? HTTPPORT=8080
? CMDPORT=63000 ?
? LOGINPROMPT=user:
? PASSWORDPROMPT=password: ?
? MAXSESSIONS=25 ?
? CMS=1
? CMSCALL=W3IVH
? CMSPASS=winlinkpassword
? USER=W3IVH,password,W3IVH,,SYSOP;
ENDPORT
PORT
?PORTNUM=2
?ID=Direwolf
?TYPE=ASYNC
?PROTOCOL=KISS
?IPADDR=127.0.0.1
?TCPPORT=8001
?CHANNEL=A
?PACLEN=128
?TXDELAY=500
?FRACK=7000
?RESPTIME=1500
?MAXFRAME=4
?RETRIES=6
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, api.winlink.org, 80, W3IVH-9, CM95qg, 00-23, 145010000, PKT1200, 5, 20, 2, 0
ENDPORT

ROUTES:
****
APPLICATION 3,RMS,C 1 CMS,W3IVH-9,,0
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If I remember?correctly, I had to create a USER called RMS. I had to have help in setting this up way back 2010. RMS would connect (How I set it up) via Telnet, if no internet?connection then I forward?to VA7TSA-10.??

later
Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU ? VOICE


Winlink:?va7dgp@...
Subject://wl2k ? ? ? ? ?

ALLSTAR ?530780
Hamshack Hotline
5971
Mid-Island Phone Mesh
2210
2232

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?


On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 6:08?PM Demonmariner via <Propinquityslo=[email protected]> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Yup, that opens the node web server "W3IVH-9's BPQ32 Web Server" with the banner?

BPQ32 Node W3IVH-9

Edit: I have the official BPQ docs, going through them.
 

I think the problem lies in this line:

APPLICATION 3,RMS,C 1 CMS,W3IVH-9,,0

The last number, which is zero, change it to 255
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-- Mike WB8ERJ

Geeze! What is he up to now?



On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 9:15?PM Don Poaps via <va7dgp=[email protected]> wrote:
If I remember?correctly, I had to create a USER called RMS. I had to have help in setting this up way back 2010. RMS would connect (How I set it up) via Telnet, if no internet?connection then I forward?to VA7TSA-10.??

later
Don Poaps
New Westminster, BC
VA7DGP DATA
VA7QU ? VOICE


Winlink:?va7dgp@...
Subject://wl2k ? ? ? ? ?

ALLSTAR ?530780
Hamshack Hotline
5971
Mid-Island Phone Mesh
2210
2232

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?


On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 6:08?PM Demonmariner via <Propinquityslo=[email protected]> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

Yup, that opens the node web server "W3IVH-9's BPQ32 Web Server" with the banner?

BPQ32 Node W3IVH-9

Edit: I have the official BPQ docs, going through them.
 

Don: You mean a Linux user? Does it need any group permissions?
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Mike: Tried changing the 0 to 255, no effect that I could tell.
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Thanks
 

In order for the changes to take effect, you either need to restart bpq, or reboot the Pi.

For reference, here is my bpq.cfg file.Hope this helps!

; Written by BPQConfigGen

SIMPLE
NODECALL=WB8ERJ-7
NODEALIAS=MFDSW1
LOCATOR=EN80SQ
FULL_CTEXT=1
IDINTERVAL=10
BTINTERVAL=30

NODE=1
BBS=1
OBSINIT=6
OBSMIN=1
NODESINTERVAL=60
L3TIMETOLIVE=25
L4RETRIES=3
L4TIMEOUT=60
PACLEN=236
T3=300
IDLETIME=1500
MAXLINKS=63
MAXNODES=512
MAXROUTES=64
MAXCIRCUITS=128
MINQUAL=100
HIDENODES=1
L4DELAY=10
L4WINDOW=4
AUTOSAVE=1
MAXRTT=90
MAXHOPS=5
SAVEMH=1
ENABLE_LINKED=A


; Network System Parameters:
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; in a received nodes broadcast. This value is then
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; decremented by 1 every NODESINTERVAL.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; value that node's information is not included in
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; a subsequent nodes broadcast.
; INP3 Routing is experimental.? The two parms which follow will be ignored
; unless activated in the ROUTES: section.
;BUFFERS=255 ? ? ? ? ? ?; This parameter is no longer used in the Win32 version.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; BPQ32 allocates an adequate number automatically.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; I have the line commented out just to remind me it's gone!!

; TNC default parameters:
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; 236 is suitable for reliable and fast connections, such
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; as AX/IP/UDP or a dedicated 9600 RF Link
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; 120 is suitable for a typical shared VHF packet radio connection
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; PACLEN is defined for each port individually in the ports sections
TRANSDELAY=1 ? ? ? ? ? ?; Transparent node send delay in seconds

; Level 2 Parameters:
; T1 (FRACK), T2 (RESPTIME) and N2 (RETRIES) are now in the PORTS section

; Configuration Options:
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; require a 'N *' command to be displayed.
/*
The *** LINKED command is intended for use by gateway software, and concern
has been expressed that it could be misused. It is recommended that it be
disabled (=N) if unneeded.
*/
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; Y = allows unrestricted use
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; A = allows use by application program
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ; N = disabled
;*


INFOMSG:
WB8ERJ's Winlink Gateway / BBS / Chat

****

IDMSG:
WB8ERJ-10 Winlink / RMS
WB8ERJ-1 BBS
WB8ERJ-5 chat
****

BTEXT:
WB8ERJ-10 Winlink / RMS
WB8ERJ-1 BBS
WB8ERJ-5 chat
WB8ERJ-7 node
****

CTEXT:
Type ? for list of available commands.
****

PORT
PORTNUM=1
?ID=Telnet Server
?DRIVER=TELNET
?CONFIG
? LOGGING=1
? TCPPORT=8010
? FBBPORT=8011
? HTTPPORT=8080
? SECURETELNET=1
? WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, WB8ERJ-10, EN80SQ, 00-23, 145030000, PKT1200, 8, 10, 1, 0
? CMS=1
? CMSCALL=WB8ERJ
? CMSPASS=xxxxxx
? USER=wb8erj,xxxxxx,WB8ERJ,,SYSOP;
ENDPORT

PORT
?PORTNUM=2
?ID=AXIP link : MFDSW2 : WB8ERJ-11
?DRIVER=BPQAXIP
?PACLEN=236
?FRACK=5000
?RESPTIME=1500
?MAXFRAME=4
?RETRIES=6
?QUALITY=255
?MINQUAL=70
?CONFIG
? BROADCAST NODES
? MHEARD ON
? UDP 10093
? MAP WB8ERJ-11 220-node UDP 10093 B

ENDPORT

PORT
?PORTNUM=3
?ID=145.030 MHz 1200 Baud
?TYPE=ASYNC
?PROTOCOL=KISS
?IPADDR=127.0.0.1
?TCPPORT=8001
?CHANNEL=A
?PACLEN=128
?TXDELAY=500
?FRACK=7000
?RESPTIME=1500
?MAXFRAME=4
?RETRIES=6
?QUALITY=193
?MINQUAL=70
?L3ONLY=0 ? ? ? ? ? ?; 1=No user downlink connects on this port
?NOKEEPALIVES=1
?DIGIFLAG=1 ? ? ? ? ? ?; Digipeat: 0=OFF, 1=ALL, 255=UI Only
?DIGIPORT=0 ? ? ? ? ? ?; Port # on which to send digi'd frames
?USERS=0 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?; Limit # of L2 sessions, 0 = no limit

?CONFIG
? BROADCAST NODES
MHEARD ON
ENDPORT


ROUTES:

KD8FTR-7,128,3
KC8WIT-7,245,3

****

APPLICATION 1,BBS,,WB8ERJ-1,MFDBBS,255
APPLICATION 2,CHAT,,WB8ERJ-5,MFDCHT,255
APPLICATION 3,RMS,C 1 CMS,WB8ERJ-10,MFDRMS,255


LINMAIL
LINCHAT
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-- Mike WB8ERJ

Geeze! What is he up to now?



On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 11:41?PM Demonmariner via <Propinquityslo=[email protected]> wrote:

Don: You mean a Linux user? Does it need any group permissions?
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Mike: Tried changing the 0 to 255, no effect that I could tell.
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Thanks
 

ROUTES:
****
APPLICATION 3,RMS,C 1 CMS,W3IVH-9,,0 < I see (2) commas
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This is the VA7TSA-10 linbpq from the Salvation Army EDS Winlink Gateway.?
?
APPLICATION 1,BBS,,VA7TSA,TSABBS,255
APPLICATION 2,DX,C 1 N9PMO-6,VA7DGP-6,DGPDX,255
APPLICATION 3,CHAT,,VA7TSA-11,TSACHT,255
APPLICATION 4,RMS,C 2 CMS,VA7TSA-10,RMSTSA,255? ?< C 2 is port 2 in the bpq.cfg file
APPLICATION 5,RELAY,C 2 RELAY,VA7TSA,255
?
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It's been years since I looked at this and I've forgotten most of this.
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Do you have LINMAIL showing? I have to look in your past messages to see if you did.
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For Further Questions E-Mail Me at va7tsa@gmail
73-VA7TSA
***
LINMAIL
LINCHAT
;--------------------------------------------------------------------
FULL_CTEXT=0 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
?
?
Night time and my eyes are turning sideways. I would contact a local BPQ guru. I had a few that helped me out. I wish I knew how to help you.
?
73
?
Don VA7QU/VA7DGP
 

Thanks for trying. I'll figure it out. You've given me some good information to check.
 

One more thing I remembered. In order to get BPQ to run (assuming the 73linux?/ KM4ACK install) you have to stop pat and disable it from starting on reboot:


sudo systemctl stop pat@pi
sudo systemctl disable pat@pi

This assumes the login user is pi.

Also after any 73linux update you will have to run the above commands.
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-- Mike WB8ERJ

Geeze! What is he up to now?



On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 1:33?AM Demonmariner via <Propinquityslo=[email protected]> wrote:

Thanks for trying. I'll figure it out. You've given me some good information to check.
 

Command sudo systemctl stop pat@pi returns failed to stop pat@...: Unit pat@... not loaded.
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So I guess pat isn't running anyway.I was pretty sure I never installed it.
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Jason's original tutorial (based on BAP) only suggested installing BPQ, Direwolf, and Pulseaudio (which is not available on 73linux and as far as I can tell, not needed). So all I have on the statem is BPQ and Direwolf.
 

OK No Pat - cool!

It's been over a year for me, but I do remember having to write my own startup script. It's not pretty, but it works for me. Perhaps there is something in there that might give a clue:

#!/bin/bash
#
# ? This gets bpq32 going
#
# ? ? ?MCT 8/23
#
# ? ?put this in /usr/local/bin directory call it in crontab
# ? ? ? ? @reboot sleep 20 && /usr/local/bin/startbpq.sh


#Start Direwolf
/usr/bin/screen -S dw -d -m /usr/local/bin/direwolf -p -c /home/pi/direwolf.conf
sleep 2
#
sudo /usr/sbin/kissattach /dev/pts/0 wl2k
sleep 2
# start bpq
cd /home/pi/linbpq
/usr/bin/screen -S bpq -d -m /home/pi/linbpq/linbpq

===========

This also assumes screen is installed. I believe Jason's script already installs it. If not, I believe it's?just a sudo apt-get install screen.
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-- Mike WB8ERJ

Geeze! What is he up to now?



On Fri, Sep 27, 2024 at 12:18?PM Demonmariner via <Propinquityslo=[email protected]> wrote:

Command sudo systemctl stop pat@pi returns failed to stop pat@...: Unit pat@... not loaded.
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So I guess pat isn't running anyway.I was pretty sure I never installed it.
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Jason's original tutorial (based on BAP) only suggested installing BPQ, Direwolf, and Pulseaudio (which is not available on 73linux and as far as I can tell, not needed). So all I have on the statem is BPQ and Direwolf.
 

Mike: I use a similar startup script that Jason put together. I believe everything is starting OK. Screen -r dw and screen -r bpq both return apparently good information. Direwolf is for sure ok, since I do get a connection. It's just that bpq hangs, apparently waiting for input.?
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Early this morning I made a copy of your config and edited it, replacing your call with mine and putting in the Direwolf port. Without going into detail, I get exactly the same result: Connected, got "Enter ? for a list of commands:" and then it sits there. (I have my Winlink client and its radio connected through attenuation directly to the gateway radio, so no rf is going anywhere.) Winlink client is W3IVH, gateway is W3IVH-9, so no callsign conflict (probably).?
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At this point I'm inclined to think the problem isn't bpq at all, but something else going on with the Raspberry Pi.
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Thanks again to everyone for their help and patience. I can just see this whole mess being something obvious and stupid. I am prepared to be embarrassed.

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