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Re: chrony GPS time offset on Build-a-Pi

 

Interesting! Many moons ago I found the line "refclock SHM 0 offset 0.5 delay 0.2 refid NMEA" in an article/forum while researching info on adding a GPS to the Pi and added it to BAP. It has always worked well for me but I seldom us WSJTX. Most of my time is spent in JS8Call which is similar. On the rare occasions that I use WSJTX, the offset has always seemed to work. Thanks for the great write up. I'll keep on eye for others that may test and can change the code if needed. You mentioned screenshots but I don't see any attached.

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Re: Getting on the map

 

I too am planning on setting up a Winlink gateway over by Mansfield, Ohio with the same setup. Presently I am in the "collecting parts" stage.

One thing I know about the Winlink map is that it only shows gateways that have had activity for (I think..) the last 4 hours. If you can, connect to your gateway, or have someone else connect to it and?send an email. Then wait about 30 minutes. It should show up.

As far as having it appear in the packet station list, I can't help you. My guess is that eventually it will show up.?

Following...
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Geeze! What is he up to now?


Getting on the map

 

I completed setting up my Pi Zero with Direwolf and BPQ.? It checks out fine.? I am a Winlink sysop.? How do I get my RMS to appear in the Winlink RMS map and to appear in the available packet station list when selecting a RMS station to send a message through.? Thanks, NQ8W


Re: BAP > 73Linux upgrade

 

A quick answer is yes it¡¯s the same.?


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Re: Restart Pat Server

 

pi@raspberrypi:~ $ pat http
2023/10/04 13:03:34 Unable to load/write config: invalid character 's' after object key:value pair
pi@raspberrypi:~ $ users
pi pi
pi@raspberrypi:~ $?
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I'm logged into pat
stats show: pat server not running
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***pat server was running after power down reboot
After logging in not running
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***STATUS AS BELOW
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pi@raspberrypi:~ $ sudo systemctl status pat@$USER
* pat@... - pat - Winlink client for pi
? ? ?Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/[email protected]; enabled; vendor preset: enabled)
? ? ?Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Wed 2023-10-04 13:02:53 PDT; 8min ago
? ? ? ?Docs: https://github.com/la5nta/pat/wiki
? ? Process: 2370 ExecStart=/usr/bin/pat http (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
? ?Main PID: 2370 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
? ? ? ? CPU: 24ms
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Oct 04 13:02:53 raspberrypi systemd[1]: pat@...: Scheduled restart job, restart counter is at >
Oct 04 13:02:53 raspberrypi systemd[1]: Stopped pat - Winlink client for pi.
Oct 04 13:02:53 raspberrypi systemd[1]: pat@...: Start request repeated too quickly.
Oct 04 13:02:53 raspberrypi systemd[1]: pat@...: Failed with result 'exit-code'.
Oct 04 13:02:53 raspberrypi systemd[1]: Failed to start pat - Winlink client for pi.
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chrony GPS time offset on Build-a-Pi

 

Hello all. Not sure if this is common knowledge or not. I did some searching before I began to mess with this and did not find a fix.

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Last weekend I camped at VE-0367 Rock Point Provincial Park (Pi 4 8gb/IC-7100/VK-162 GPS/no RTC) and activated VE-0058 Mohawk Island National Wildlife Area (Pi 0 2w/FT-817nd/VK-172 GPS/RTC). I noticed high DT in WSJT-X in both setups. It was a more evident running FT4 on the Pi 0 2w on the island. Decode performance was still very good, especially considering I was using a Pi 0 2w, but if your QSO partner has clock drift, things become more sketchy.

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I suspect the normal "refclock SHM 0 offset 0.5 delay 0.2 refid NMEA" line we add to /etc/chrony/chrony.conf is not correct. I suspect this is a remnant of original copy/pasted code, and it's good enough, so nobody has ever changed it. It's the same line everywhere on the internet that I could find.

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Here's how I tested with the Pi 4 8gb setup at home: force hotspot (so no internet connection on the pi), reboot, let the GPS sync, and open WSJT-X (then edit the file, reboot, etc.). I observed the most common DT to be 0.6 with the stock line. Very few were close to 0.0.

I did the same with "offset 0.1" and the most common DT moved to 0.2.

I repeated with "offset -0.1" and now there are a ton of -0.1, -0.0, 0.0, 0.1 decodes.

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I happen to be monitoring 21.074 FT8 which happens to be quite busy here and now, but take your pick. Please see my attached screenshots showing the DTs in WSJT-X in different configurations. I suspect that no offset is needed in most cases, but nothing to back that up. offset -0.1 is working very well here right now, with my combination. I will leave that for now. I am very interested to see what others find. Before you test, be sure to ensure the Pi does not have internet! In case you want to copy/paste, the command to edit the file is:
sudo nano /etc/chrony/chrony.conf

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Here's another question - how often does chrony sync the system clock to the GPS time? Where is the frequency of that sync set? Can we change it? If nothing else I'd like to simply see that code. I have read about the maxpoll command in chrony but don't know where it's used or how to apply it.

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Thanks in advance for your answers!
73 Joseph VE3GKT

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PS Thank you Jason for some awesome software! I use the Pi 4 8gb setup at home as my primary station, as well as for 100w POTA. I've used it a LOT - nearly all of my 1479 POTA digital QSOs have been with BAP. At home, I have a Kasa switch feeding my power supply. Combined with FLrig turning my IC-7100 on and off, and a free RVNC account, I have a primative but effective remote station! I have an LDG Z-11PROII feeding a 4:1 balun to a 40' doublet. I have QSOs on this home setup on every band 160m-2m!

PPS I just found the Config > UI > Meters Dialog in FLrig last week. It's quite useful!


BAP > 73Linux upgrade

 

I just did the upgrade to install the 73Linux from BAP. I'm not seeing any changes or benefits from it. Is 73Linux supposed to look and act the same as BAP? Or do I need a fresh install?

Greg
KE5DXA?


Re: Conky placement issue.

 

It's been a while but I think the remedy is:
Right Click on blank space on the Desktop
Choose Desktop Preferences
Under "Layout" dropdown, choose "Center Image On Screen"
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Re: Restart Pat Server

 

After you log into Pat, try starting from the command line with
pat http
and post what errors it throws.
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Re: Restart Pat Server

 

THANKS Jason but it only works when I'm NOT logged into pat. The command will not start the sever when logged into pat. This seems every odd. Also when I'm not logged in, I have to start the http manually. That works but sending and receiving are not functional since the call sign is NOCALL.?

The bpq node that I run is closed and a power down reboot of the pi.?

What do you think?
tnx, Jay


Conky placement issue.

 

I have 2 headless Pi4 running BAP that were both built at the same time. One as an issue where Conky is not on the far right of the screen. I¡¯ve had this on occasion in the past, but it seemed to correct itself after a reboot. This one is stuck.?
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Re: Restart Pat Server

 

sudo systemctl restart pat@$USER
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Restart Pat Server

 

Hi Group,
Need to restart pat server. I usually have a node running but disconnected the node to run pat but quick stats says pat server not running. It's a build-a-pi and very familiar with it and all looks fine.
I'm logged in
Grid showing
Pat menu Settings default and looks fine.
Thanks for your input!!
Jay


Re: Wo-We replacement

 

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Ah, ok.? I ordered the A9 version that comes with Ubuntu.? Got an email this morning saying expected ship date is Nov 4.? So, it appears they haven¡¯t discontinued it.

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Thanks

Jim

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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Ryan Huggins via groups.io <ki6bty@...>
Date: Monday, October 2, 2023 at 12:02?PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [KM4ACK-Pi] Wo-We replacement

@Jim, it was listed on the product page under "Power (AC Adapter)".? If my screenshot paste works, I have it highlighted below.? This is for the one with the fancy design that runs the Ryzen 7 3750 chip, as (hopefully) shown below.? The original square one that comes with Windows shows as unavailable with no information about amazon being resupplied with them.


Re: Wo-We replacement

 

@Jim, it was listed on the product page under "Power (AC Adapter)".? If my screenshot paste works, I have it highlighted below.? This is for the one with the fancy design that runs the Ryzen 7 3750 chip, as (hopefully) shown below.? The original square one that comes with Windows shows as unavailable with no information about amazon being resupplied with them.


Re: Wo-We replacement

 

Thank you everyone!
@W4JBB - I haven't seen that computer before, looks like it might fit the bill.? Thank you.? The two HDDs is annoying, but for a basic windows install, N1MM and some FT8/RTTY/etc. programs one drive may do it.? Most of my radio files are stored elsewhere, so that shouldn't be a problem.

@Jerry - That is similar to the current WoWe, but with linux.? I like Linux, but I'm trying to stick with windows as that's what our emergency ops centers use and I want to try and keep things as close to those as possible so I can keep my skills up between our monthly tests.

@Danny - I'm a huge fan of the Pi and use a Pi4 in the field with my 891 and another on my network as a PiHole ad blocker.? I'll probably order two of these when they launch and likely upgrade my field system to this and use one for my SDR needs.? For my normal operations, I've been using the Pi4 in the shack as well powered by a wall wart, but my ability to run programs like Vara cleanly makes it not very useful for everything I need to do.? Now if they can get the Pi5 to run a basic version of Windows 10...

@Ken - I realize this is directed at W4JBB.? My desire is to be able to run the system directly off of a powerpole distribution block and have the computer and radios tied into a 20ah battery and grid power via a West Mountain Radio Epic PwrGate.? This would be a shack-only setup.? For field use, I'd stick with my Pi4 powered by a home brew battery box.


Re: Wo-We replacement

 
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For my AP setup, I have a MeanWell 12 V, 15 A PS that powers everything except my mount. I¡¯ll have to find the p/n for that. It's the . It is flat out 12 VDC (I think I measured 12.07 VDC) but it works fine for me. I cut off the end of the connector and doubled up the two (+) and two (-) to 30 A PP connectors and that feeds my DC distribution block.

I will have to find them on Amazon but I ordered some two-wire ?for the miniPC. I put PowerPoles on one end and run it to a DC distribution block with fuses.

For the one that runs my radio equipment, I just use the wall wart that came with it. It¡¯s a 12 V, 2 (or 3?) A PS.

I think the concern is the USB buss in the miniPC cannot run many devices. In other words, you¡¯re probably not going to power an external SSD and a GPS without some sort of powered hub (I had actually forgotten that until you mentioned it). I have, however, powered a uBlox GPS dongle with the AP one (although I don¡¯t currently use the GPS). I could not power the GPS dongle and one of my cameras though. I bought a powered hub to do that.

Joel - W4JBB


29 very low-cost laptops available

 

Hello,

I'll make this brief, I have no connection to the seller, but Dell Refurbished (link below) has 29 low-cost "thin client" laptops for sale.

The laptop has quad-core N4100 Celeron CPU, 4 Gigs DDR4 RAM (upgradeable to a max 8 Gigs by adding a 4 Gig SoDIMM), 16 Gig eMMC, a backlit keyboard, a 14" 1920x1080 display, dual-band WiFi and Bluetooth, as well as VGA & HDMI video ports and gigabit Ethernet. The laptop includes an m.2 NVMe slot that can accept a 2280 (or smaller) NVMe SSD BUT, I repeat, BUT, the owner will need to rig a means of securing the SSD, there is a bracket missing to properly secure the SSD - perhaps a replacement part from Dell can be purchased?).

There is NO included OS, no Windows CoA, no product key, if you want to run ANY version of Windows you'll need to supply your own license, obviously any Linux distribution should run fine.

The price, including Free Shipping in US is $59 + applicable sales tax (may not be available to ship overseas)

Link:



I have two, one runs Win 11 fine, the other is running Ubuntu Desktop 23.04 fine, fully-supporting the hardware.

Theres only a few left (29), but I thought some here might be interested.

These are full-size, not small, laptops - full-size keyboard, 14" display, etc. with hours and hours of battery life, but they do not operate on 12v, they can be powered over USB-C, according to the literature, they come with 19v power adapters.

Hope some here find this note helpful,

Ken, N2VIP


Re: Wo-We replacement

 

This is not good.? Ryan, where did you hear that about the 19 volt.? I just ordered everything on the list in Jason's video.? It said they were working on resupplying the wowe that was listed and would send an email when it was available to ship.? They didn't indicate that it was discontinued.

Jim


Re: Pi 5

 

Of course. There was a lot of details mentioned in their blog post introducing the Pi 5, including this RTC battery.