I too would like to see it up ASAP:
For emergency, help ypurself with !
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Okay, the boat im planning on buildimg is the 860.?
Over the last couple weeks i habe come up with this: Please let me know if my plan stinks.
Carbon mast? (your eaay build pvc? design mast)?
A soft wing main sail with a carbon top gaff? boomless? (designed by you, a modern version of the Wharram soft wing)? ***keeps.rigging cost low,? less fuss with tracks ect***? Boomless is safe?
Self tscking? jib
(Code zero light winds (im in Florida)?
Spin?
Carbon pole for the code and spin'?
Again,?
Whats included in the 860 plans..... Open deck? Closed deck? A Mast design for the 860?
How much, for the extra design work,? the sail, carbon pole for the soft wing ect..
Thxs again?
Hi
I have some problems with the provider. I hope I can clear it shortly.?
I have many customers I am working with via email. I do not know
which boat you are interested in.
The carbon mast plans are a part of the DUO 800 plans. I have no other ones.
Because of the boundary layer effect the wind at the top of the sail is more regular and has a higher speed. The square top sail picks up this wind and uses this to power the boat better. The drawback of real square tops is that these cannot be controlled as with a gaff sail, for instance.
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Hi
I have some problems with the provider. I hope I can clear it shortly.?
I have many customers I am working with via email. I do not know
which boat you are interested in.
The carbon mast plans are a part of the DUO 800 plans. I have no other ones.
Because of the boundary layer effect the wind at the top of the sail is more regular and has a higher speed. The square top sail picks up this wind and uses this to power the boat better. The drawback of real square tops is that these cannot be controlled as with a gaff sail, for instance.
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Are you going to get your website.fixed? Im hilding off on buying plans until i know im going to get designer support.
There is zero good info on the build, what the plans include, ect..
Are the carbon mast plans included?
If i buy the plans is the open deck version imcluded along with the closed??
I still havent recived an explaination? On what sail rig and why. You told me sloop...
Whats the sailong? differance with the high roach main and the square top?
Im an amauter builder....
Hi, you can build it this way by preparing the hulls and the rest of the boat, and then moving close to the sea.
One of my videos of the first construction of the KD 122 Italy
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Hi Bernd,
Miss your website. Are planning on rebuilding it as it was, or doing something different?
cheers
Greg
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The paint job is awesome. I am excited to see your boat in the water and sailing.
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Hi Domenico
Good to hear that the sail is now okay.
Thank you for the photos
Bernd
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Hi Bernd, some photos of the painting of the boat.
The mainsail is now all ok and fits perfectly into the wing mast
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Rod,
you did a very fine building job and a very fine video!
Thank you.
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Hi, you can build it this way by preparing the hulls and the rest of the boat, and then moving close to the sea.
One of my videos of the first construction of the KD 122 Italy
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Good morning, Jim, I have just sent a video to Youtube telling the story of my construction of an ECO 6 sailboat. Perhaps you might find it helpful in making your decision
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I found this video and following this project for a while. Good efforts! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAG4EQZXy9k&feature=youtu.be
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Just curious how. The draft and brief overview. For example KD122
May be I am dreaming but .. Perhaps build hulls, install all BH except 3 and 6 (just prepare all for moving), Prepare all for decking, make cabin roof assembly.?
Move everything close to the water and glue together :-)
PS: I am watching this project for that purpose https://www.facebook.com/groups/Tresoor2/
PPS: Also curious if catamaran would be possible to disassemble back for transportation the same way with a minimal work.?
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Jim (and anyone who would like to visit a Voyager build) email me:
patrick "at" mminc.org
Cheers
Patrick
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Of course, you can do that.?
Bernd
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Thanks david that is good point of view and appreciate your input!
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Re: Choice of plywood, Was: Re: Carbon tupes for free standing masts
Bernd?
Can i build this boat like this?
Two hulls completed and painted? Not attached? Move the two hulls close to the water.(one hull at a time) ???
I can rent a building location for less $$ INLAND.?
i would use a flat bed to move the hulls and the rest of the build equip.?
I just want to make sure im not running imto future issues. Water front anything is $$$$ In Florida
Thxs?
On Wed, Jan 3, 2024, 4:59?AM Philip Malan via <malan.philip= [email protected]> wrote:
Alain, apply the epoxy before building. Use the squeegee method. You put the sheets on top of each other on saw horses and start with the top sheet by pouring some epoxy on, distribute? with squeegee, move sheet slightly so that the extra is moved to the sheet below. The top sheet is then placed to cure and you proceed with the next and so on, a real quick job. Cheers Philip Malan
On Friday, 22 December 2023 at 15:33:09 SAST, Bill Mansfield < billman3968@...> wrote:
Thxs for that, everything i researched says bunz' ply with gaboon superior? I can get it from the dist. At a good price per sheet.?
You got here something wrong. Because I am sure I did not write this.
Here again is some general wood data.
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See table¡ªsome wood data for plywood for boat building.
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Matterial? ? ?Weight? ? Bending moment Elasticity modulus
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Meranti? ? ? ?710 kg/m3 32 N/mm2? ? ? ? 7000 N/mm2
Mahogany? ? ? 650 kg/m3 80 N/mm2? ? ? ? 8300 N/mm2
Okoume? ? ? ? 430 kg/m3 84 N/mm2? ? ? ? 8600 N/mm2
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The table clearly shows why I prefer Okoume, Gaboon, and Bruinzel plywood (made from Gaboon).
The general impregnation of Epoxy adds between 10 and 15 % of the strength for an impact of about 30 %.
Bernd
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We can be looking at boat as we want. Seaworthiness, mm. I would, in any case, try to avoid this. 
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Having built and owned an Eco 6 I would not recommend this design for open water sailing. I did do some exposed coastal sailing on our Eco 6 but I found that 25 knots of wind, plus associated coastal wave heights to be about the most that the boat can handle from a comfort and safety point of view and trying to go to windward in those conditions was very difficult. People have taken very small boats ocean sailing, but as an experienced off shore sailor I would not choose to do so in an Eco 6. This is not to say that there is anything wrong with the design, they are great little boats, but based on my experience I think the Eco 6 is more of a semi sheltered waters cruiser. Unless you were an experienced mulihull sailor I think there would be a very real risk of capsize if sailing an Eco 6 offshore. This risk could be mitigated by the use of a parachute sea anchor. If I wanted a small offshore catamaran the minimum I would choose of Bernd's designs would be the KD860. This design has much better load carrying capability, more comfort, and would be able to cope with a much wider range of wind and sea conditions.
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Sounds good, I would love to see it in person, where are you building it?
Jim
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On Wednesday, January 10, 2024 at 03:45:48 PM EST, voya12m via groups.io <voya12m@...> wrote:
Hi Jim
I know my build is not an ECO 5.5 or 6, but I welcome you to come and visit us. We are building a Voyager 122. Northeast NC. Drop by on your way to the OBX.?
Cheers
Patrick
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