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Re: Payment for this group is due
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýGood morning Bernd
And all
Do you have other way of paypal to send money?
Interac or else ?
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bernd Kohler via groups.io <ikarus342000@...>
Sent: Sunday, October 8, 2023 5:44:21 AM To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [Special] [K-Designs-Multihull-Sailboats] Payment for this group is due ?
The old Yahoo group was free. But for these here, I have to pay.
The yearly payment the K-designs group is due this month.
See below.
Any contribution to help finance the group is welcome.
Please use PayPal? and as a recipient, my email address
bernd@...
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Thank you in advance
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Battery costs
You will know my attitude to lithium batteries.?
At last, the prices are coming down.
Anyway, here is a seller of these for a reasonable price.
12v, 260 AH for Euro 699
https://fr.eco-worthy.com/
They also have outlets in the USA, Germany etc.? Bernd |
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Re: Payment for this group is due
Hello Bernd!? Have transferred $20.00US? via PayPal to you to cover part of the annual Group Fee. Thank you for your help. Have a lovely day! Yours, Eckart ??? Eckart J. Schillings ??? ?? Mob: 0423 709799?CLEVELAND, Qld 4163. Australia?
On Sunday, 8 October 2023 at 07:44:22 pm AEST, Bernd Kohler <ikarus342000@...> wrote:
The old Yahoo group was free. But for these here, I have to pay.
The yearly payment the K-designs group is due this month.
See below.
Any contribution to help finance the group is welcome.
Please use PayPal? and as a recipient, my email address
bernd@...
?
Thank you in advance
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Re: Payment for this group is due
Thank you for letting us know, Bernd. I am happy to contribute. This forum is a wonderful resource for all who are building or who plan to build your designs.
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Re: Payment for this group is due
Only $10, but I've just sent you a small donation. I've barely posted here, and my only real activity is buying a couple of study plans from you. But even if I don't buy a full plan set, your responses here, and the contributions of builders, are very informative so I hope this helps should funds to keep this alive are short in these difficult times!
Regards, Adrian |
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Payment for this group is due
The old Yahoo group was free. But for these here, I have to pay.
The yearly payment the K-designs group is due this month.
See below.
Any contribution to help finance the group is welcome.
Please use PayPal? and as a recipient, my email address
bernd@...
?
Thank you in advance |
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Re: KD860 Open
Hi Brian
Both models have the same beam. Only on the KD 860 open I show the Center to center beam. That is all Cheers Bernd |
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KD860 Open
A friend recently bought study plans for the above which I was looking at with him. The K Designs website shows this model as being 8.2 x 3.8 which of course is a bit smaller than the original. The study plan my friend downloaded has actually got the incorrect specifications included so I was just wondering: to anyone who is looking at building this "open" model", is there the option to build it at this smaller size, and if it is simply an option, then which model would they choose to build, the original 8.6 x 5.6 model or the smaller one referred to on Bernd's website? Just curious
regards Bryan |
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Re: Pictures ECO 6 Rod
Thank you Rod. On Sat, 30 Sept 2023, 12:45 am Rod McLaren, <nkosuohene@...> wrote: Wonderful news, Paul. I wish you an early start to construction. Keep us posted with your progress. |
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Re: Pictures ECO 6 Rod
Wonderful news, Paul. I wish you an early start to construction. Keep us posted with your progress.
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Re: Pictures ECO 6 Rod
I will be ordering the eco 6 plans next week,? i'm excited to begin the build, i had to wait until now because i was finishing our house so we could move into it and with only little things left to do that aren't needed to live here i have time to start the boat.? I live in philippines and the big river that runs into iligan city bay is only a few hundred yards from our house. My goal is to have it sailable and floatable by july 4th. That will give 9 months. Will hire one person to help cause it's better when cutting plywood or ripping boards or holding plywood up until it's fastened down. My wife is excited to ride the boat as she says. She might change that after we leave the dock. Lol. I still have to learn to sail but she thinks i already know since i'm american, thats funny. Been burning up the internet watching videos on sailing but i need to be on a boat to really see and understand. But if i can't sail i can always fill up the gas tank every couple hours.lol On Fri, 29 Sept 2023, 3:57 am Rod McLaren, <nkosuohene@...> wrote: Yes, the world has changed, and one of those changes is as you say - more viewers than do-ers. It is disappointing but not surprising that more of your plans are not sold and more of your designs not built. Last winter, when I had the cabin on the ECO 6 started, a friend brought his friend to see the work. His friend wanted to purchase a catamaran similar in size to the ECO 6 and as you have pointed out, there are no catamarans like that on the market. The woman asked if she could buy my boat after I completed it. I assured her I was not building the boat to sell - I was building it to sail. She then asked if she could hire her to build one for her. I assured her she could not afford my price - no amount of money could convince me to build a boat for someone else. I have other activities which I prefer to be doing that are more important to me than money. I suggested that she build the boat herself but of course, she had many reasons why she could not do it. The primary reason underlying them all was her choice of how she spent her time. That applies to many people. They are too busy chasing money. They don't consider the quality of their life - only the quantity of their bank balance. It is very unfortunate the marketplace does not support construction and sales of smaller catamarans (aside from beach cats, of course). In this part of Canada, the market is increasingly dominated by very expensive power boats (most often "wake" boats that destroy the lake bottoms) which are financed through loans which keep the new owners working so much to make the payments they have no time to take the boats on the water. It's a crazy world. |
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Re: Pictures ECO 6 Rod
Yes, the world has changed, and one of those changes is as you say - more viewers than do-ers. It is disappointing but not surprising that more of your plans are not sold and more of your designs not built. Last winter, when I had the cabin on the ECO 6 started, a friend brought his friend to see the work. His friend wanted to purchase a catamaran similar in size to the ECO 6 and as you have pointed out, there are no catamarans like that on the market. The woman asked if she could buy my boat after I completed it. I assured her I was not building the boat to sell - I was building it to sail. She then asked if she could hire her to build one for her. I assured her she could not afford my price - no amount of money could convince me to build a boat for someone else. I have other activities which I prefer to be doing that are more important to me than money. I suggested that she build the boat herself but of course, she had many reasons why she could not do it. The primary reason underlying them all was her choice of how she spent her time. That applies to many people. They are too busy chasing money. They don't consider the quality of their life - only the quantity of their bank balance. It is very unfortunate the marketplace does not support construction and sales of smaller catamarans (aside from beach cats, of course). In this part of Canada, the market is increasingly dominated by very expensive power boats (most often "wake" boats that destroy the lake bottoms) which are financed through loans which keep the new owners working so much to make the payments they have no time to take the boats on the water. It's a crazy world.
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Re: Pictures ECO 6 Rod
Hi ? You had a goal, and you managed to reach it. Your boat is finished, and you did a great job. That it is a bit later as planned is not important. Good, Winter is coming, but you was telling me you have a lot of other interesting things to do to enjoy the time till the next sailing season. ? I had a bit of a wrang smile about, selling more plans with all the effort you made to place pictures in the most important publications for example, on Facebook entities. Good, here is the result till now. A would-be client will order a plan of an ECO 6 at the beginning of October. Mmmm ? The world has changed. The ¡°lifestyle generation¡± a PR stunt that works) are viewers, not doers. They have calluses on their thumbs from using their iPhones and not on their hands. Because most of them do not know what is the handle of a screwdriver and which is the working end. ? Back to catamarans. There are no cabin catamarans in production of the size of the ECO 6. Why? There is no money alone in it. The work you have to put in to get a boat according to the EU certification is too high. What is left over are big catamarans for millions of Dollars and euros. There are almost no small craft boat-building businesses anymore in Europe¡ªonly a handful of big boat-building manufacturers. I was invited by some of them to visit the multihull boat show in Cannes last week. By the way, multihulls under 8 m were not admitted! I did not go, because, for me, these cruising catamarans are general houseboats with sails. I do not talk about racing boats. The costs for these boats are out of the reach for most of us. I know this is a bit a strange answer. But lucky, we here at the forum can help each other to build boats for a bit of a lower price. ? Cheers ? Bernd ? |
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Re: Pictures ECO 6 Rod
Hi Rod, I saw your postings on social media of course but just to add to Bernd's comments on here. Congratulations once again on getting afloat. I know it is frustrating when working on a timeline, and it is hard to avoid the tremptation to rush things along, though you obviously have kept everything to the very high standards you started with. "Zephyr's Delight" will comtinue to draw interest wherever you go. I found the same thing with my Duo480, in fact on those days when I have beach launched for a nice day sail, I often got very delayed with packing up my boat late in the afternoon back at the beach due to curious spectators.?
Anyway i wish you a relaxing time this winter while you can plan to perfection the final touches and be ready for next summer.? regards Bryan |
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Re: Duo 900 Italy
Hi Rod enjoy your boat you deserve it, you did a great job. Especially the finishing touches that make the boat even more beautiful.
A round of applause also goes to Bernd who designs these catamarans.
Many don't know that quality and price Bernd always wins for me....
Keep us informed about the Eco 6 water test |
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Re: Pictures ECO 6 Rod
Thank you, Bernd, for your kind comments. A year ago at this time each morning, I was planning my day for the workshop in order to complete construction before my 75th birthday. As we all know, I missed that deadline but no problem. This morning, I awoke to the knowledge the boat is completed and I now can spend my winter dreaming of next summer, sailing "Zephyr's Delight" and learning how to sail her well. I must tell you your design captured a ?great deal of interest at our local Marina. Several members of the local Yacht Club came over while we were setting up to complement me on the boat. I even received several invitations to join the yacht club. That is something which never happened to me when I showed up at the marina with my previous sailboats!! It is your design which has caught their eye - it is not like any to which they are accustomed. That also applies to the enormous response on social media when I posted photos of the ECO 6. Clearly there are many sailors and builders who are intrigued by the ECO 6 and want to see it on the water and with wind in ?her sails. I expect you will be selling more ECO 6 plans this winter as others join the dream of sailing an ECO 6. Thank you, Bernd, for your vision and your designs.
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