Added album Working towards the launch date - the ECO 6 in Canada #photo-notice

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Rod McLaren <nkosuohene@...> added the album Working towards the launch date - the ECO 6 in Canada : I did miss launching the ECO 6 by my 75th birthday but I am still hopeful to be in the water in time to join the annual sailing/camping event I have organized for 11 years, the Elbow Run, departing July 16. As any of you who have built boats know, its all the "little" things that take a lot of time to complete. Here is a glimpse into where the boat is today.

Re: Hunting for the perfect little winter boat

#9834

Pepijn answered your question already. By the way. The pictures and the videos for the CATAPROA were all made at the place of Pepijn.

Sailing was done on the Ijsselmeer. The others were made on the Med.

The boat is a good winter boat. The boat can be sailed from the inside if you want. With some provision, you can handle the lateen and the

rudders from inside the cabin. Some insulation would make life inside the boat drier in the Wintertime. Yes, you can sit in the boat very comfortably. The sleeping area is 2m x 1,22m. A la Dick Newick even good for two in love.?

Construction time. I built this prototype in 6 weeks, with a break for a party of one week.

On this forum is another keen CATAPROA sailor; perhaps he can chip in to tell his story. By the way, and to my own surprise, coming about (tacking) is as

easy and fast as on a dingy. And yes, she is fast too.?

If you like the idea, I can make you an offer. Drop me a line (bernd@...)

?

Cheers

?

Bernd?

Photo, another Cataproa built in Germany. I like this boat

Re: Hunting for the perfect little winter boat

#9833

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Cataproa is the way to go. Quick to build, option for insulation a bit. All the shelter you need. Just do keep the weight down

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Op 21 jun. 2023 om 22:16 heeft Zachary Cawthorne-Nugent via groups.io <zacharycawthornenugent@...> het volgende geschreven:

?Apologies for the long post in advance.

Hi guys, it's been a while since I was last here. At the time I was looking to build a small live-aboard. That plan fell through because I found a super cheap westerly pageant that fit the bill perfectly (apart from it not being a sexy speedy catamaran haha). In the winter that boat is going on the hard. Now I'm searching for the perfect little winter boat (I live in the Netherlands it freezes for a week maximum per year here). I've made a list of attributes that are important to me.

1. small (quick and cost effective to build with a little help from friends and family. I've noticed that I like the closeness to the water and the way small boats move))
2. sheltered sailing position (wind chill has been an issue last winter. I'd love to be more "inside")
3. FAST (uuuuhhhh can't think of an objective reason for this but I have always dreamed of a speedy little boat... mind you compared to my westerly I'm sure anything would feel quick haha)

I'd seen that there are two designs that look great in regard to point one and three! With little modifications two might also be satisfied. I would love to hear your thoughts and suggestions. Also, no offence is meant. I realise allot of thought and work goes into creating those gorgeous designs, and I don't mean to spoil them. Rather adapt them to my winter needs.

That said, I'm looking at the tiny tri. It looks almost perfect. I'm wondering if it's possible to sit deeper in the cockpit... almost F1 style. I have a recumbent bike that uses the same geometry and it's super comfy (one can even sleep nicely in this position). Then I'm thinking fashion a tiny little windscreen and a little snap on cover.

Alternatively, I've been looking at the cataproa. It looks like a lot more boat to build but still doable. I'm wondering if there are any shelter ideas anyone has for that one... the cabin shelters one side nicely... I'm thinking a little windbreak that keeps within the side view silhouette on the other side perhaps?

If you're still with me, thanks and I'd love to hear your ideas and feedback.

Regards,

Zachary

Hunting for the perfect little winter boat

#9832

Apologies for the long post in advance.

Hi guys, it's been a while since I was last here. At the time I was looking to build a small live-aboard. That plan fell through because I found a super cheap westerly pageant that fit the bill perfectly (apart from it not being a sexy speedy catamaran haha). In the winter that boat is going on the hard. Now I'm searching for the perfect little winter boat (I live in the Netherlands it freezes for a week maximum per year here). I've made a list of attributes that are important to me.

1. small (quick and cost effective to build with a little help from friends and family. I've noticed that I like the closeness to the water and the way small boats move))
2. sheltered sailing position (wind chill has been an issue last winter. I'd love to be more "inside")
3. FAST (uuuuhhhh can't think of an objective reason for this but I have always dreamed of a speedy little boat... mind you compared to my westerly I'm sure anything would feel quick haha)

I'd seen that there are two designs that look great in regard to point one and three! With little modifications two might also be satisfied. I would love to hear your thoughts and suggestions. Also, no offence is meant. I realise allot of thought and work goes into creating those gorgeous designs, and I don't mean to spoil them. Rather adapt them to my winter needs.

That said, I'm looking at the tiny tri. It looks almost perfect. I'm wondering if it's possible to sit deeper in the cockpit... almost F1 style. I have a recumbent bike that uses the same geometry and it's super comfy (one can even sleep nicely in this position). Then I'm thinking fashion a tiny little windscreen and a little snap on cover.

Alternatively, I've been looking at the cataproa. It looks like a lot more boat to build but still doable. I'm wondering if there are any shelter ideas anyone has for that one... the cabin shelters one side nicely... I'm thinking a little windbreak that keeps within the side view silhouette on the other side perhaps?

If you're still with me, thanks and I'd love to hear your ideas and feedback.

Regards,

Zachary

Re: KD860 open

#9831

You can use Vinilester on the inside. But in contrast to Epoxy it will not add to the strength of
the hulls.?

Re: KD860 Center Dagger Board

#9830

Thank you for the explanation.?

Re: KD860 open

Pedro hapacx

#9829

Thank you for answering so quickly. Here the epoxy is very expensive. Too expensive. Use the epoxy only on the external faces of hulls, beams, etc. But not inside the interior of the living work.
Here in Argentina the Bucket 20kg Epoxy Resin Bisphenol-a Vinilester is sold - Chemia S.a. This is more accessible to buy.

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El dom, 4 jun 2023 a las 11:39, Bernd Kohler (<bernd@...>) escribió:

Hi Petro

What do you mean by that??
Here the list of materials

Cheers

Bernd

Sans virus.

Le dimanche 4 juin 2023 à 16:17:07 UTC+2, Pedro hapacx <hapacx@...> a écrit :

hello Bernd
To make the KD860 open catamaran, what is the minimum essential that can be used in epoxy (hulls, beams etc). Thanks.
Pedro

hola Bernd
para hacer el catamaran KD860 open, cuanto es lo minimo indispensable que se puede utilizar de epoxy (cascos, vigas etc). Gracias.?
Pedro

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Duo 900

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Duo 900

Re: KD860 Center Dagger Board

#9828

No aircraft with winglets could then fly through a turbulence.?
Because the a-vortex panels do the same thing, only through a 830 times more
tense element.?

Bernd

Re: KD860 open

#9827

Hi Petro

What do you mean by that??

Here the list of materials

Cheers

Bernd

Sans virus.

Le dimanche 4 juin 2023 à 16:17:07 UTC+2, Pedro hapacx <hapacx@...> a écrit :

hello Bernd
To make the KD860 open catamaran, what is the minimum essential that can be used in epoxy (hulls, beams etc). Thanks.

Pedro

hola Bernd
para hacer el catamaran KD860 open, cuanto es lo minimo indispensable que se puede utilizar de epoxy (cascos, vigas etc). Gracias.?

Pedro

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Duo 900

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Re: KD860 Center Dagger Board

#9826

Yes, I have the plans. I will be sailing mostly in the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean. I was not sure if the anti vortex panels would word in the choppy sea conditions.?

KD860 open

Pedro hapacx

#9825

hello Bernd
To make the KD860 open catamaran, what is the minimum essential that can be used in epoxy (hulls, beams etc). Thanks.

Pedro

hola Bernd
para hacer el catamaran KD860 open, cuanto es lo minimo indispensable que se puede utilizar de epoxy (cascos, vigas etc). Gracias.?

Pedro

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Duo 900

Re: kd 122 italy

#9824

Domenico

You need the diamond shrouds. Otherwise, you get buckling of
the masts.

Bernd

Re: KD860 Center Dagger Board

#9823

Hi Patrick

You have a plan of the KD 860?
I have the center board drawing. But you do not need it.
Ask owners of the KD 860. The anti vortex panels work
perfect.?

Bernd

Re: kd 122 italy

#9822

Hi Hans on the top top must have some flexibility

At 8.70 MT above there will be (either side) two dynema cables ahead and behind at 2.80 MT from the base of the mast. This is to avoid creating diamond shapes since it does not interfere with the self-tacking jib...
Ciao

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KD860 Center Dagger Board

#9821

Hello,
In the study plans it shows a center dagger board option. The full plans do not show it. Are there plans available for its construction?
Finally get to begin building this summer.

Thank you.

Re: Eco75 part built For Sale

#9820

Hi Richard,

Very sad to hear that you have to stop your project because of your health,
I whish you al the best!

Kind regards,

Jack

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Onderwerp: [K-Designs-Multihull-Sailboats] Eco75 part built For Sale

Hi All,

Due to ill health, I have had to stop building my ECO75. One hull is largely
built and Coppercoated, with the second hull having side skins, but not the
bottom skins fitted. It is standard except the transoms have been extended
by circa 300mm since I intended to fit twin outboards. There are also 2 new
60 litre plastic fuel tanks. No work has been started on the bridgedeck.
There are lots of pictures on the forum.

I have enough 2.4 x 1.2m sheets of marine ply (Robbins Elite) to finish the
boat and also much of the Douglas Fir needed. I am located in Hampshire UK.
If anybody has any (serious) interest please get in touch and I can send you
further details. I am only looking for a reasonable price for the remaining
plywood sheets and Douglas Fir, the hulls and plans are a give away.
Buyer will have to collect.

Regards
Richard Flegg

Re: Voyager plans for sale

#9819

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Hi Stanko ,

Yes still available where are you from ?

Olivier

Olivier BOULARD
SAS ERPACC
13 RUE DES GAUZYS
ZI DE BEL AIR 
89400 CHENY
0386479964

Le 21/05/2023 à 15:44, Stanko Ganev via groups.io a écrit?:

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Hello Olivier, 5 years later but I have to ask just in case. Are these plans and stuff still available?
Stanko

Re: kd 122 italy

#9818

Very impressive and professional!? Will there be an "endcap" on the top against twisting? Or is it supposed to have flex? Greetings, Hans

Re: kd 122 italy

#9817

Hi Domenico

Nice progress with the A-frame mast.?
Welding Aluminium is not easy. But the shown weld is perfect.?

Ciao

Bernd

Re: Eco75 part built For Sale

#9816

Hello Richard

I am sorry to hear that you have health issues. I wish you first a quick recovery.

Furthermore, I hope you will find a buyer. You did a great job, as can be seen on your pictures.

I wish you all the best

Bernd